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Are Christianity and Taoism compatible?

 
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ABSOLUTELY! Christians have a name for Tao. They call it Calvinism (predestination more or less). I believe in a good mixture of Calvinism and Armenianism, which allows for a "way of the universe" and at the same time gives the individual responsibility for their own actions, operating within The Way and allowing for them to choose how they respond to The Way.

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I love Jesus

We are all eternal whether we get there through Christ or not.

The thing is we aren't what we think we are. We are not this mind or this body. In the end the individuality you hold so dear is not as precious or desirable as you think. You will gladly give it up to dissolve in the blissful light of the lord.
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Just about every religion can be compatible with the the teachings of Jesus mostly because the older eastern religions is what inspired his teachings. These moral philosophies have been around a for thousands of years and the message of Jesus is really nothing new or uniquely profound.
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Dont ask others to tell you what you can and cannot believe or what is or isnt compatible. If it works for you and produces good results then it is. Period.
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Bullshit functionalism...
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ABSOLUTELY! Christians have a name for Tao. They call it Calvinism (more or less). I believe in a good mixture of Calvinism and Armenianism, which allows for a "way of the universe" and at the same time gives the individual responsibility for their own actions, operating within The Way and allowing for them to choose how they respond to The Way.
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And God gives us free will so that we can have choice. Thank you!


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That depends. . .is taoism is all about money and reputation?
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Just about every religion can be compatible with the the teachings of Jesus mostly because the older eastern religions is what inspired his teachings. These moral philosophies have been around a for thousands of years and the message of Jesus is really nothing new or uniquely profound.
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ABSOLUTELY! Christians have a name for Tao. They call it Calvinism (more or less). I believe in a good mixture of Calvinism and Armenianism, which allows for a "way of the universe" and at the same time gives the individual responsibility for their own actions, operating within The Way and allowing for them to choose how they respond to The Way.
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And God gives us free will so that we can have choice. Thank you!


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Doesn't Calvinism teach that we are predestined to be saved? In other words don't bother trying to save anyone? That part I don't agree with.
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TAO

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The Tao is the matrix and Jesus is the synchronicity that shows up within. How is that for an analogy?
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How does Taoism deal with the concept of Grace?
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Great question... I found this... I will read this and see


From a Taoist perspective we simplify action down and focus closer to the Awareness side of this equation. We do this for flexibility. The more action based a person is, the less options they have in life. Taoist’s love both options and potential. Yet a Taoist accepts action at the most graceful moments, since action when done well also creates potential in addition to only using potential. Careless actions based purely on consumption merely use up potential compared to graceful actions that actually build up potential and options.

from...

[link to personaltao.com]
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Here is the Christian perspective on grace:

1And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
 Quoting: Ephesians 2:1-10

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I just figured out the difference!!!!!! Thank you so much! It's the Holy Spirit which lives inside us now who is our helper and comforter. THAT'S the difference! God is on MY side now that I am born again which puts things in my favor as long as I act according to His will.


Thank you!!!!!


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I want to encourage you with this scripture:

Galatians 2:20-21
20I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

The peace that you receive through Christ is not dependent on your obedience....rather...your obedience is the natural result of you knowing, loving, cherishing, and treasuring Christ above all things. It is by grace that any of us have faith...it is by faith that we live, and breathe, and have our being...our minds and will turned to learning, knowing, and choosing him above what the world offers.

The time you spend getting to know God through scripture will create a wellspring of life that nourishes your soul.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. - 1 Cor 1:18

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A whole lot of ignorance in this thread.

Taoism is not a religion it is a Path.

Taoist do not necessarily believe in the celestial hierachy.

The Supreme Tian from Chinese culture has a lot of parallels to the Christian God.

And remember all you protestants. You are just rebellious catholics.
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ABSOLUTELY! Christians have a name for Tao. They call it Calvinism (more or less). I believe in a good mixture of Calvinism and Armenianism, which allows for a "way of the universe" and at the same time gives the individual responsibility for their own actions, operating within The Way and allowing for them to choose how they respond to The Way.
 Quoting: The Biss


And God gives us free will so that we can have choice. Thank you!


rose3
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Doesn't Calvinism teach that we are predestined to be saved? In other words don't bother trying to save anyone? That part I don't agree with.
 Quoting: A Friend


No....Calvinism is misrepresented in that way. Here is what the Bible says:

Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Two chapters later we read this:

Romans 10
14How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

As a Calvinist...we know that God's elect are always saved...and because we gladly preach the gospel we get to be part of waking our brothers and sisters up from their slumber of worldliness that we also once knew.

If you are just exploring your faith...I would recommend you spend some time in the gospel of John:
[link to biblehub.com]

Circle back and run through all 4 gospels...then roll straight through to the end. It is best to read large chunks and not just little verses here and there to ensure you understand the context.
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That depends. . .is taoism is all about money and reputation?
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humility and compassion
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Hmm. . .that almost sounds kind of Christ-like, but I'm not sure His fanclub is into that shit ;)
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Yes! They are absolutely compatible. Not only are they compatible, but Christ is THE WAY. The Tao is known as The Way. The Way is the path to perfection, it is a science if living.

Christ is the embodiment of the Way, The Path, the perfect man.

There is a book, written by an Orthodox Christian monk in California. It's called " Christ: The Eternal Tao, I think. Look for it.
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And remember all you protestants. You are just rebellious catholics.
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That's crazy talk - who would rebel against a filthy-rich cabal of costumed perverts? What a bunch of crazy talk!
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Great question... I found this... I will read this and see


From a Taoist perspective we simplify action down and focus closer to the Awareness side of this equation. We do this for flexibility. The more action based a person is, the less options they have in life. Taoist’s love both options and potential. Yet a Taoist accepts action at the most graceful moments, since action when done well also creates potential in addition to only using potential. Careless actions based purely on consumption merely use up potential compared to graceful actions that actually build up potential and options.

from...

[link to personaltao.com]
 Quoting: A Friend


Here is the Christian perspective on grace:

1And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
 Quoting: Ephesians 2:1-10

 Quoting: B@Z


I just figured out the difference!!!!!! Thank you so much! It's the Holy Spirit which lives inside us now who is our helper and comforter. THAT'S the difference! God is on MY side now that I am born again which puts things in my favor as long as I act according to His will.


Thank you!!!!!


happykitty
 Quoting: A Friend


I want to encourage you with this scripture:

Galatians 2:20-21
20I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

The peace that you receive through Christ is not dependent on your obedience....rather...your obedience is the natural result of you knowing, loving, cherishing, and treasuring Christ above all things. It is by grace that any of us have faith...it is by faith that we live, and breathe, and have our being...our minds and will turned to learning, knowing, and choosing him above what the world offers.

The time you spend getting to know God through scripture will create a wellspring of life that nourishes your soul.
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Thank you for nudging me in the right direction.


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Re: Are Christianity and Taoism compatible?
A whole lot of ignorance in this thread.

Taoism is not a religion it is a Path.

Taoist do not necessarily believe in the celestial hierachy.

The Supreme Tian from Chinese culture has a lot of parallels to the Christian God.

And remember all you protestants. You are just rebellious catholics.
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As with everything Jesus is the determining factor. If there is room for Jesus in the Tao then I am a taoist Christian.

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Tao knows human spirit(uality). Few Christians know the Spirit of God.
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truth.. its been decaptited in christianity.
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ABSOLUTELY! Christians have a name for Tao. They call it Calvinism (more or less). I believe in a good mixture of Calvinism and Armenianism, which allows for a "way of the universe" and at the same time gives the individual responsibility for their own actions, operating within The Way and allowing for them to choose how they respond to The Way.
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And God gives us free will so that we can have choice. Thank you!


rose3
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Doesn't Calvinism teach that we are predestined to be saved? In other words don't bother trying to save anyone? That part I don't agree with.
 Quoting: A Friend


No....Calvinism is misrepresented in that way. Here is what the Bible says:

Romans 8
26Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Two chapters later we read this:

Romans 10
14How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

As a Calvinist...we know that God's elect are always saved...and because we gladly preach the gospel we get to be part of waking our brothers and sisters up from their slumber of worldliness that we also once knew.

If you are just exploring your faith...I would recommend you spend some time in the gospel of John:
[link to biblehub.com]

Circle back and run through all 4 gospels...then roll straight through to the end. It is best to read large chunks and not just little verses here and there to ensure you understand the context.
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Do your own thinking. I wouldn't listen to most of the people here. At least some of Taoism is compatible. Dwell on this: who is the father, who is the son, what is the holy spirit? From the viewpoint of the eternal, what is the difference between being rich or poor, or healthy or ill, or young or old? I could say much more, as I think Christ's teachings are often misunderstood. But I'm only commenting because I like your 11:11 threads, otherwise I'd avoid a thread like this, since the resident GLP rabid uber Christians will now brand me a heretic headed towards utter damnation. Not that I care what they think, but they are annoying and sanctimonious.

Beware of anyone who claims to have all answers. No one does.
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That depends. . .is taoism is all about money and reputation?
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humility and compassion
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Hmm. . .that almost sounds kind of Christ-like, but I'm not sure His fanclub is into that shit ;)
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Yes! They are absolutely compatible. Not only are they compatible, but Christ is THE WAY. The Tao is known as The Way. The Way is the path to perfection, it is a science if living.

Christ is the embodiment of the Way, The Path, the perfect man.

There is a book, written by an Orthodox Christian monk in California. It's called " Christ: The Eternal Tao, I think. Look for it.
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Thank you! I will look it up.



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Christianity is an unnecessary religion. The Soul doesn't need to be saved. It needs to be realized; made Conscious. It's immortal by definition. You aren't your "character/body-mind". You ARE a soul. Taoism shows "The Way".
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I don't know much about taoism, but the taoteching doesn't say anything that contradicts christianity, since beliefs are subjective it'd depend on ones personal views.
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A whole lot of ignorance in this thread.

Taoism is not a religion it is a Path.

Taoist do not necessarily believe in the celestial hierachy.

The Supreme Tian from Chinese culture has a lot of parallels to the Christian God.

And remember all you protestants. You are just rebellious catholics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72652744


As with everything Jesus is the determining factor. If there is room for Jesus in the Tao then I am a taoist Christian.

rose
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Okay so pratice Tao to harmonize and repent to Jesus.

Theological problem solved.

If the Christian God wants to keep you from perfecting yourself and being a better person... why would you worship that?

80% of christians were raised that way and never strayed. May have given it up for a few years in college or whatever, but they never researched or embraced another theology at all. They only know one thing, the religion of their fathers/mothers.
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A whole lot of ignorance in this thread.

Taoism is not a religion it is a Path.

Taoist do not necessarily believe in the celestial hierachy.

The Supreme Tian from Chinese culture has a lot of parallels to the Christian God.

And remember all you protestants. You are just rebellious catholics.
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As with everything Jesus is the determining factor. If there is room for Jesus in the Tao then I am a taoist Christian.

rose
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Why can't you read both and make up your own mind? I love Tao material which goes far deeper than anything that was ALLOWED in the bible. Few understood Jesus where he was 2000 years ago and most of you don't comprehend now.

Jesus did not start your religion. YOU ARE YOUR PATH . Jesus demonstrated the Path.

This is my favorite statement from the Tao. Its a nice version of "god is in all things"...


"The Great Tao flows everywhere, to the left and to the right. All things depend on it to exist, and it does not abandon them. To its accomplishments it lays no claims. It loves and nourishes all things, but does not lord it over them." - Lao Tzu


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