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He was extremely close with Joey Ramone and the whole family was close with the Ramone family. The plot was apparently chosen because she wanted to be able to give the fans a place to access his grave and because of his closeness with Joey Ramone.

I thought her letter was all about her, to be honest, and because she used to do PR she is likely very conscious of how she is being perceived right now and painted as a villain and that letter was a deliberate effort to try and show the public how he felt about her and spin the perception people have of her right now. I have heard that they were headed for splitsville as well from people I know in the industry. I did PR in LA in the music industry. I know many that worked with him and knew him personally. I asked what the deal is from a couple friends. From what I understand, he had slipped off the wagon HARD and she was pissed. This is not the first time he has fallen off the wagon on tour and she was concerned for the well being of her children and she had been through a LOT with his drug addiction in the past and yes, when she says she saved his life, she is right. Vicky pushed Chris into rehab to get well more than once. The whole situation is shocking to most people I know out there and from what I understand, NO ONE expected him to kill himself.

One day his children may read the things people are saying on the internet about them and their parents and they are already old enough to go online so I hope people keep that in mind when talking about this. They have enough to deal with at this point. I hope Chris rests in peace.
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Well, she should have SAID that then (that he had not been sober all these years), instead of posting this biazarro, self-serving letter designed to make her look like the "saint with the thorny crown" that he sang about. Better yet, she shouldn't have published a letter at all. He may have put her through hell, but she chose to stay and it's too late to salvage her reputation, which was shit from day 1 till the end. You find not one nice thing about her anywhere. A gentle, flawed empath will not do well with a selfish narcissist and her psycho narcissist mother. He probably new extrication was impossible...
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She is not under any obligation to say anything about their private life. It's none of anyone's business except for the people in his personal life. I agree she shouldn't have published the letter though. The bottom line is that unless you knew them personally, you can't really have an accurate portrayal of the situation. Public perception is one thing. Reality is another.
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Are you their PR? Or Vicky? She has been putting the stuff out there for the public. So has her nutbag MIL. That is on them. She has been giving contradictory stories about what happened. That is on her. She keeps feeding stuff to the media. That is on her. If she wants to grieve in private, she is free to stop "leaking" items to the press.
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pretty obvious who the band is behind and who not...
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Thanks for this.



what is a blind item?
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A blind = inside information posted anonymously
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He was extremely close with Joey Ramone and the whole family was close with the Ramone family. The plot was apparently chosen because she wanted to be able to give the fans a place to access his grave and because of his closeness with Joey Ramone.

I thought her letter was all about her, to be honest, and because she used to do PR she is likely very conscious of how she is being perceived right now and painted as a villain and that letter was a deliberate effort to try and show the public how he felt about her and spin the perception people have of her right now. I have heard that they were headed for splitsville as well from people I know in the industry. I did PR in LA in the music industry. I know many that worked with him and knew him personally. I asked what the deal is from a couple friends. From what I understand, he had slipped off the wagon HARD and she was pissed. This is not the first time he has fallen off the wagon on tour and she was concerned for the well being of her children and she had been through a LOT with his drug addiction in the past and yes, when she says she saved his life, she is right. Vicky pushed Chris into rehab to get well more than once. The whole situation is shocking to most people I know out there and from what I understand, NO ONE expected him to kill himself.

One day his children may read the things people are saying on the internet about them and their parents and they are already old enough to go online so I hope people keep that in mind when talking about this. They have enough to deal with at this point. I hope Chris rests in peace.
 Quoting: MilaMoon


Well, she should have SAID that then (that he had not been sober all these years), instead of posting this biazarro, self-serving letter designed to make her look like the "saint with the thorny crown" that he sang about. Better yet, she shouldn't have published a letter at all. He may have put her through hell, but she chose to stay and it's too late to salvage her reputation, which was shit from day 1 till the end. You find not one nice thing about her anywhere. A gentle, flawed empath will not do well with a selfish narcissist and her psycho narcissist mother. He probably new extrication was impossible...
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She is not under any obligation to say anything about their private life. It's none of anyone's business except for the people in his personal life. I agree she shouldn't have published the letter though. The bottom line is that unless you knew them personally, you can't really have an accurate portrayal of the situation. Public perception is one thing. Reality is another.
 Quoting: MilaMoon


Are you their PR? Or Vicky? She has been putting the stuff out there for the public. So has her nutbag MIL. That is on them. She has been giving contradictory stories about what happened. That is on her. She keeps feeding stuff to the media. That is on her. If she wants to grieve in private, she is free to stop "leaking" items to the press.
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right on!hf
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And Vicky's story changes again.

Chris Cornell’s Final Conversation Included Relapse Confrontation

[link to www.alternativenation.net]


Interesting to note-if he was "walking around NYC with short sleeves and no track marks" prior to leaving for Detroit, doesn't that contradict the MIL's tweet that said he was at her house talking about home decor prior to Detroit?

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

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He sounded utterly emasculated by his alpha female wife. Too passive to leave her, too sensitive to stay. It's probably really that simple.
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I heard on a radio show this week that when the wife and CC were speaking that last evening stuff was going on in the house and it was mentioned that CC could control stuff from his phone in the home (smart house)....nothing elsewhere about what was going on, this has sort of piqued my curiosity. Lights flikering seems like what was said, I don't exactly remember as I was sort of half listening due to being busy.

I know this is entirely possible to control all that stuff now through your cable company applications.
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Chris Cornell died of Autoerotic Asphyxiation, when you look at the evidence given by the police right at the time it happened, it's pretty clear. The police don't care to tamper with the evidence. The story only starts to change when the obvious details of his death are made public. Afterwards. Most importantly the statement of him not being depressed made by his wife just hours after finding out. Yet, a day later it was because of the anxiety pills he was taking? C'mon. Story changes.

His wife doesn't want to live with that embarrassment, that's why they are blaming it on the meds. She doesn't want her image to be spoiled. It's more attention and "glamorous" to blame it on someone (something) else.

It's called impression management. Narcissists will even do it with death. And Autoerotic Asphyxiation is more common than people think.
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Start at 44:00. Easier to envision Cornell offing himself. Din't watch if you're sensitive.

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And Vicky's story changes again.

Chris Cornell’s Final Conversation Included Relapse Confrontation

[link to www.alternativenation.net]


Interesting to note-if he was "walking around NYC with short sleeves and no track marks" prior to leaving for Detroit, doesn't that contradict the MIL's tweet that said he was at her house talking about home decor prior to Detroit?

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
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pretty obvious who the band is behind and who not...
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Whoa - is that Susan Silver with them?!!
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pretty obvious who the band is behind and who not...
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Whoa - is that Susan Silver with them?!!
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YES :)
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I just finished listening to an interviwe from 2007 when Chris was on Howard Stern. It's the most candid interview that I've heard him give. I found it on YouTube and will provide the links . The interview is about 50 minutes broken down into 10 minute segments. He sounds so upbeat, and very relaxed. Awesome interview!

[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

BTW., I've done a couple searches on google under his new wife's name. All that shows up is connected to Chris... nothing about her previous to their marriage... who is she really??
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Interesting to note:

7 unreleased Chris Cornell songs were released on 5/19, as part of the 25th Anniversary Singles Soundtrack Deluxe Re-Issue.

I thought this came out on Record Store Day-but nope, it came out 24hrs after he died, on a Friday nonetheless; usually albums come out on Tuesdays.

I just found a working link-FF to 3:00 and then again to 12:00 afrer the end of that song, because there's gaps in it to get around copyright.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

The first song "Nowhere But You" seems rather cryptic.

1) 00:00 Touch Me I'm Dick - Citizen Dick
2) 3:01 Nowhere But You - Chris Cornell
3) 8:11 Spoon Man - Chris Cornell
4) 11:46 Flutter Girl - Chris Cornell
5) 18:10 Missing - Chris Cornell
6) 23:44 Would?(Live) - Alice in Chains
7) 27:43 It Ain't Like That (Live) - Alice in Chains
8) 32:28 Birth Ritual (Live) - Soundgarden
9)37:56 Dyslexic Heart (Acoustic Demo) - Paul Westerberg
10) 41:39 Waiting for Somebody (Score Acoustic) - Paul Westerberg
11) 43:19 Overblown (Demo) - Mudhoney
12) 46:15 Heart and Lungs - Truly
13) 50:36 Six Foot Under - Blood Circus
14) 54:28 Singles Blue 1 - Mike McCready
15) 56:23 Blue Heart (Instrumental) - Paul Westerberg
16) 59:51 Lost in Emily's Woods - Paul Westerberg
17) 1:01:35 Ferry Boat #3 - Chris Cornell
18) 1:06:35 Score Piece #4 - Chris Cornell
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He was extremely close with Joey Ramone and the whole family was close with the Ramone family. The plot was apparently chosen because she wanted to be able to give the fans a place to access his grave and because of his closeness with Joey Ramone.

I thought her letter was all about her, to be honest, and because she used to do PR she is likely very conscious of how she is being perceived right now and painted as a villain and that letter was a deliberate effort to try and show the public how he felt about her and spin the perception people have of her right now. I have heard that they were headed for splitsville as well from people I know in the industry. I did PR in LA in the music industry. I know many that worked with him and knew him personally. I asked what the deal is from a couple friends. From what I understand, he had slipped off the wagon HARD and she was pissed. This is not the first time he has fallen off the wagon on tour and she was concerned for the well being of her children and she had been through a LOT with his drug addiction in the past and yes, when she says she saved his life, she is right. Vicky pushed Chris into rehab to get well more than once. The whole situation is shocking to most people I know out there and from what I understand, NO ONE expected him to kill himself.

One day his children may read the things people are saying on the internet about them and their parents and they are already old enough to go online so I hope people keep that in mind when talking about this. They have enough to deal with at this point. I hope Chris rests in peace.
 Quoting: MilaMoon


Well, she should have SAID that then (that he had not been sober all these years), instead of posting this biazarro, self-serving letter designed to make her look like the "saint with the thorny crown" that he sang about. Better yet, she shouldn't have published a letter at all. He may have put her through hell, but she chose to stay and it's too late to salvage her reputation, which was shit from day 1 till the end. You find not one nice thing about her anywhere. A gentle, flawed empath will not do well with a selfish narcissist and her psycho narcissist mother. He probably new extrication was impossible...
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She is not under any obligation to say anything about their private life. It's none of anyone's business except for the people in his personal life. I agree she shouldn't have published the letter though. The bottom line is that unless you knew them personally, you can't really have an accurate portrayal of the situation. Public perception is one thing. Reality is another.
 Quoting: MilaMoon


Are you their PR? Or Vicky? She has been putting the stuff out there for the public. So has her nutbag MIL. That is on them. She has been giving contradictory stories about what happened. That is on her. She keeps feeding stuff to the media. That is on her. If she wants to grieve in private, she is free to stop "leaking" items to the press.
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LOL no, I'm not their PR. She has leaked things to the media that are obvious to me that they are coming from a family source but there are a lot of people around them who could be leaking info, not necessarily Vicky or her MIL. It could even be staff in the house. You have to remember the amount of people these people tend to employ and while most sign NDAs, if you leak anonymously, it can't always be traced to you. There are lawyers, accountants, housekeepers, PR people, managers, studio employees, not to mention the legions of friends and acquaintances. Any one of these people could be calling up TMZ or whoever. One of these best ways to test who you can trust to tell someone you suspect as a leaker a story that is false. If that story is "leaked", you know who leaked it and can cut that person out of your circle. The downside is that story will be made public, true or not.

As an aside, the sales for his solo stuff, Soundgarden and Audioslave are up 500% on iTunes since he passed away.

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On a cold wet afternoon

By a freeway

Alone in a room full of death

Like a stone Chris Cornell-


The Hotel is right off the Lodge freeway
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Interesting to note:

7 unreleased Chris Cornell songs were released on 5/19, as part of the 25th Anniversary Singles Soundtrack Deluxe Re-Issue.

I thought this came out on Record Store Day-but nope, it came out 24hrs after he died, on a Friday nonetheless; usually albums come out on Tuesdays.

I just found a working link-FF to 3:00 and then again to 12:00 afrer the end of that song, because there's gaps in it to get around copyright.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

The first song "Nowhere But You" seems rather cryptic.

1) 00:00 Touch Me I'm Dick - Citizen Dick
2) 3:01 Nowhere But You - Chris Cornell
3) 8:11 Spoon Man - Chris Cornell
4) 11:46 Flutter Girl - Chris Cornell
5) 18:10 Missing - Chris Cornell
6) 23:44 Would?(Live) - Alice in Chains
7) 27:43 It Ain't Like That (Live) - Alice in Chains
8) 32:28 Birth Ritual (Live) - Soundgarden
9)37:56 Dyslexic Heart (Acoustic Demo) - Paul Westerberg
10) 41:39 Waiting for Somebody (Score Acoustic) - Paul Westerberg
11) 43:19 Overblown (Demo) - Mudhoney
12) 46:15 Heart and Lungs - Truly
13) 50:36 Six Foot Under - Blood Circus
14) 54:28 Singles Blue 1 - Mike McCready
15) 56:23 Blue Heart (Instrumental) - Paul Westerberg
16) 59:51 Lost in Emily's Woods - Paul Westerberg
17) 1:01:35 Ferry Boat #3 - Chris Cornell
18) 1:06:35 Score Piece #4 - Chris Cornell
 Quoting: Itl83


I am not certain but I think it was planned long before his death to come out on the Friday and it's actually a myth that records only come out on Tuesdays anymore. Friday is the day. It used to be Tuesdays when albums were physically shipped to stores.

Here's a link about records no longer coming out only on Tuesdays from NPR:
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On a cold wet afternoon

By a freeway

Alone in a room full of death

Like a stone Chris Cornell-


The Hotel is right off the Lodge freeway
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You can youtube this song with lyrics

Almost prophetic
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

In this icky video, MIL is chatting up Brad Pitt and grinning.
She's using the funeral of her son in law... to chat up Brad Pitt.

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She's probably wanting to sink her claws into Brad for Vicky now that Brad is single again.
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Well, she should have SAID that then (that he had not been sober all these years), instead of posting this biazarro, self-serving letter designed to make her look like the "saint with the thorny crown" that he sang about. Better yet, she shouldn't have published a letter at all. He may have put her through hell, but she chose to stay and it's too late to salvage her reputation, which was shit from day 1 till the end. You find not one nice thing about her anywhere. A gentle, flawed empath will not do well with a selfish narcissist and her psycho narcissist mother. He probably new extrication was impossible...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56232949


She is not under any obligation to say anything about their private life. It's none of anyone's business except for the people in his personal life. I agree she shouldn't have published the letter though. The bottom line is that unless you knew them personally, you can't really have an accurate portrayal of the situation. Public perception is one thing. Reality is another.
 Quoting: MilaMoon


Are you their PR? Or Vicky? She has been putting the stuff out there for the public. So has her nutbag MIL. That is on them. She has been giving contradictory stories about what happened. That is on her. She keeps feeding stuff to the media. That is on her. If she wants to grieve in private, she is free to stop "leaking" items to the press.
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LOL no, I'm not their PR. She has leaked things to the media that are obvious to me that they are coming from a family source but there are a lot of people around them who could be leaking info, not necessarily Vicky or her MIL. It could even be staff in the house. You have to remember the amount of people these people tend to employ and while most sign NDAs, if you leak anonymously, it can't always be traced to you. There are lawyers, accountants, housekeepers, PR people, managers, studio employees, not to mention the legions of friends and acquaintances. Any one of these people could be calling up TMZ or whoever. One of these best ways to test who you can trust to tell someone you suspect as a leaker a story that is false. If that story is "leaked", you know who leaked it and can cut that person out of your circle. The downside is that story will be made public, true or not.

As an aside, the sales for his solo stuff, Soundgarden and Audioslave are up 500% on iTunes since he passed away.
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can u give us more info, milamoon? who ARE u? sounds like u know things.
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photos from funeral.
i love this thread, btw

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A comment from that link...

She claimed that he flew home for the weekend, for mother's day, and then flew to Detroit Wednesday for the show that night. Not sure about a rock star wife, but my weekend consists of Saturday-Sunday, and he was in Kansas City Sunday night, so there's no way he was with her from Mother's Day until Wednesday.

And a tweet on the MILs twitter...

Toni Karayiannis‏ @ToniKaras May 6

Toni Karayiannis Retweeted Donald Hanner

Thank you!😉😍

Toni Karayiannis added,
Donald Hanner @donhanner
@ToniKaras will you come to Kansas city w chris for mothers day would be awesome to meet you and tell you happy mothers day. I know I dream


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Look what the MIL posted 43 mins ago


"When u read this u search for the truth ! What really happen not what they write! But soon we will know! That's a promise ! "


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No tweets about Chris her dear "beloved son in law"s death nor any condolences.
Nothing between Mothers Day and that tweet you posted from 3 hours ago.

That is very strange indeed -with the panic attack 5 days ago and ringing 911 to get taken to emergency- Chris death- then nothing till now.
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Was Chris estranged from his own family in Seattle?
Also, in regards to the original posting, Brittany Murphy was the maid of honor and was just then seeing the bride's true colors?
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Looks like adjoining rooms based on this picture...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

So the wife's story is he was A-OK when she talked to him the first time, second time he was slurring his words (after bodyguard gave him 2 Ativan) and she asked guard to check on him. Cornell's "suicide" was spontaneous and brought on by the pills, yet he luckily had an exercise band and a mountain hook on hand to complete the job.

If he was going to dump her, and she knew it, she's a suspect with motive and more investigation is required. Why were authorities so quick to issue the cause of death as suicide??
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This is a recent interview: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
If he was going to dump her he's hiding it well.
Im not trusting the wife or bodyguard at all.
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Sorry folks

You can clearly see that door was NOT kicked down

The Hotel refused to open the door?

Hmmmmmmm

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They said it was hastily repaired and room not available for booking.
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How do you kick down a hotel door? They are Ft Knox. Im not buying his story.
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How does a man 6'2" hang himself using a door frame and a rubber band? Doesn't make any sense
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I had the same thought
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Looks like adjoining rooms based on this picture...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

So the wife's story is he was A-OK when she talked to him the first time, second time he was slurring his words (after bodyguard gave him 2 Ativan) and she asked guard to check on him. Cornell's "suicide" was spontaneous and brought on by the pills, yet he luckily had an exercise band and a mountain hook on hand to complete the job.

If he was going to dump her, and she knew it, she's a suspect with motive and more investigation is required. Why were authorities so quick to issue the cause of death as suicide??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56232949


This is a recent interview: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
If he was going to dump her he's hiding it well.
Im not trusting the wife or bodyguard at all.
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Was the "Bodyguard" even at the funeral?
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LOL this thread is entertaining. People pretending to be close to people in Hollywood and the music industry.

Nobody knows anything here. Only Chris Cornell and God know what happened.
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Nobody knows anything here. Only Chris Cornell and God know what happened.
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And maybe the "bodyguard" and maybe Vicki?
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Ativan is not gonna cause you to spontaneously commit suicide what it is gonna do is intoxicate and in composite you and make it really easy for someone to strangle you
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How does a man 6'2" hang himself using a door frame and a rubber band? Doesn't make any sense
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I had the same thought
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Bodyguard kicks in the door to the suite. He then kicks in the door to the bedroom within the suite and sees Chris lying on floor of the bathroom with the band tied around his neck. Does this mean Chris hanged himself from a different door in the bathroom and not the main door ? The bodyguard's account seems like he busted the bedroom door down and saw him on the ground, which would suggest the bathroom door was open? How did he end up on the ground? Why didn't he immediately remove the band and attempt CPR? If I remember from his timeline there is a 15-20 minute gap before the hotel paramedics arrive and remove the band and attempt CPR.
Plenty of time to stage or clean up the scene. Who knows,he could've been dead when the Bodyguard left. There are security cameras in the hallway outside the main door. The fixing computer thing could be Just a BS excuse to explain why the Bodyguard was in his room for an extended period .
The stories are somewhat conflicting and changing. I really hope the Detroit PD is still working the case. It would be awesome if the fans could put pressure on them to look into it further because of all the weirdness .
There is no Statute of Limitations on murder.
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How does a man 6'2" hang himself using a door frame and a rubber band? Doesn't make any sense
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70053119


I had the same thought
 Quoting: Buffy2222


Bodyguard kicks in the door to the suite. He then kicks in the door to the bedroom within the suite and sees Chris lying on floor of the bathroom with the band tied around his neck. Does this mean Chris hanged himself from a different door in the bathroom and not the main door ? The bodyguard's account seems like he busted the bedroom door down and saw him on the ground, which would suggest the bathroom door was open? How did he end up on the ground? Why didn't he immediately remove the band and attempt CPR? If I remember from his timeline there is a 15-20 minute gap before the hotel paramedics arrive and remove the band and attempt CPR.
Plenty of time to stage or clean up the scene. Who knows,he could've been dead when the Bodyguard left. There are security cameras in the hallway outside the main door. The fixing computer thing could be Just a BS excuse to explain why the Bodyguard was in his room for an extended period .
The stories are somewhat conflicting and changing. I really hope the Detroit PD is still working the case. It would be awesome if the fans could put pressure on them to look into it further because of all the weirdness .
There is no Statute of Limitations on murder.
Toodles
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THIS ^^^ I had the same questions when I read accounts of the bodyguard's / paramedic timeline, even before I found the blind thread with all the shite about the wife and crazy MIL.

A) Why was the band still around his neck? If you're hired to protect someone, and you're so concerned that you kick in a door to find them hanging, wouldn't your first instinct be to run to them, remove the band and try to save/revive them? Not leave the band around his neck for 45 minutes until paramedics arrive? I read somewhere it was 45 minutes until the paramedics got there and removed the band. Seems odd for someone who is hired to protect him, not to make an effort to resuscitate him.

B) the wife immediately issuing a statement through her lawyer about the Ativan, then writing that god-awful open letter now seem like very deliberate attempts to spin the narrative, especially since she is a PR person (although not a very good one, I'd say)

C) that MIL is bat-shit crazy.

D) Even if CC was in love with his wife, sounds like her and her mother are blood-sucking narcissists, and he had to support the lifestyle of a wannabe Hollywood/Miami/Paris housewife and HER MOTHER. Ugh. Poor guy. NO wonder he was depressed. It's heartbreaking to think that, in a moment of despair, maybe it was just too much and he thought the best way out would be to just... check out. Maybe she said something to set him off on the phone - she sounds pretty conniving, so she could have said something to him, threatening to expose his affair or drug use or whatever, if it's in fact true that he was going to leave.
So... who really knows what goes in someone else's marriage.

BUT... from the last week of bat-shit-craziness, I don't think Detroit PD should be so quick to rule it suicide. Too many strange loose ends and obvious shenanigans from the wife and her batshit crazy mother.
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Ativan is not gonna cause you to spontaneously commit suicide what it is gonna do is intoxicate and in composite you and make it really easy for someone to strangle you
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Ativan - it isn't a fun high to take too much. Basically just a bad headache. I don't believe that particular drug had anything to do with what happened. I think he was on something MUCH stronger IF that was what happened.
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