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TWIN PEAKS: THE RETURN - Discuss the past, present and future of all things Twin Peaks

 
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I'm going to make another prediction at the end of this post. But for now, let's see what the inmates are saying...








the only cool moment so far was the slot machines, how liberating that scene was.


other than that it is a bunch of mental patients standing there not talking about much...what am I missing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75087758


Well, you should try and get a television in your own room so that you don't get interrupted by all of those other patients. Maybe you'll be able to focus more on the show then.








I saw that picture the first time you posted it. It still means nothing. You drew letters on a hand that have no place being there. And other than that, I have NO idea of what you're trying to say or ask
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so,.. you only saw the cream corn vanish from the plate,
i wonder if you saw the cream corn vanish from the Magikians hands, im figuring not.. now do you see where the creame corn went? ...

timetravelled into the future to Bob's new hideout..

o well , i guess you must be a blinkered Beast :D

what would dougie think, dougie think

funbox
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Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.








Again, this picture obscures part of the cross. Go to the 3:53 mark on the video I posted above and you can see what it actually looks like.
 Quoting: BEAST333


or maybe one thing can look like two things, at different times :D

or Lynch is fucking with our heads

i see what you mean tho , an extra vertical line ... i wonder if that could be a shadow?


funbox
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No, it's no shadow. I've seen it a few different times on the show.

BOTTOM LINE: It's NOT the Cross of Lorraine.








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Yep. THAT line.










"(For the record, Mark Frost, co-writer of Twin Peaks, has repeatedly expressed his hatred of "conspiracy theorists" on his personal Twitter account - even going so far as to Retweet a post about wanting to literally punch conspiracy theorists in the face, a while back. You really should read through his Tweets, if you haven't already.)"


I believe you, but it doesn't make sense.
Major Briggs was all about conspiracy, the real deal, not the Jacoby level.

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alien03


I'm not the original poster but I just read through the thread and I think I can answer.

It makes perfect sense to those who have been following Frost's rage postings and books. It's understandable though if you haven't been following. A lot of people watching Twin Peaks now haven't been keeping up with all the drama.

Here's a basic overview for anyone who hasn't witnessed any of the online arguments or read the supplemental Twin Peaks materials.

Frost was constantly posting hateful and condescending comments towards conspiracy theorists and Trump supporters. One male conspiracy theorist who was a megafan of Twin Peaks posted an @ message --- a public message --- to Frost, to try to tell him that all of his hate-filled rhetoric was turning off other Twin Peaks fans.

Frost responded with a rude insult.

That incident was later discussed on another forum that I would get banned for naming here. Many of those forum people were upset by the things that Frost was writing and compared it to when Damon Lindelof was insulting fans of his show LOST, on Twitter. Most wrote that they'd never watch Twin Peaks again but that they were glad that Lynch was being respectful to fans.

They also talked about Briggs and the latest Twin Peaks book. It's been said that Frost likes conspiracy theories and mythology but not conspiracy theorists. Also he doesn't accurately portray them. In the latest Twin Peaks book Frost wrote about real events and conspiracies that did happen but twisted them to serve his personal agendas.

Even though the book is marketed as fiction, there are young Twin Peaks fans who don't know anything about conspiracies who are reading the book and thinking Frost's account is close to the truth. Posts about that are all over forums too. Young minds are being manipulated and turned towards lies, not truth. That's another reason why a lot of fans are angry.

Also in the original episodes Major Briggs talked about some conspiracies but we never got to see where that was leading. If it would have followed the course of the latest book then it would have been about Frost's version of the truth instead of the real version of the truth.

alien11
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Gee, thanks for signing up to GLP JUST to post to this thread. Wonder if we've seen you here before. Of course, it WASN'T the original poster under a different Anonymous Coward ID.

If anyone is reading the book or watching the television show and thinking that it is not fiction then they are as delusional and tunnel visioned as you are with these comments.

WHO CARES WHAT MARK FROST THINKS IN REAL LIFE?

We're enjoying a fictional television show. I repeat - A FICTIONAL SHOW. Please - I beg of you - look up what the friggin' word "fiction" means before posting any more of your nonsense.

And most of us here follow Lynch and not Mark Frost. David disagreed with him on so many levels that he was kicked off helping to write the Fire Walk With Me script. He's done some decent TV in the past, but I could care less what his opinions are about politics.

Now please, knock it off - we're done with this topic. No one here but you cares an inch about what Mark Frost's political bent is.

Let's get back to talking about the show and not your absolute hate for anyone who doesn't think exactly like you do.








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Worthless.








Here's what happened in Part 6, followed by some brand new questions...



PART 6

---OPENING CREDITS - Laura Palmer's face superimposed over the falls and then as it fades - brand new shots of the falls, the red curtains from The Waiting Room/Black Lodge, and the floor of The Waiting Room/Black Lodge.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - It is now REALLY late and Dougie Cooper still stands at the statue outside the offices of Lucky 7 Insurance apparently trying to mold his suit coat into a gun like the statue is holding; the security guard from earlier comes by again, tells Dougie Cooper there is no loitering and asks where Dougie lives; Dougie starts staring at the guy's badge and tries to touch it; the security guard - along with another one - takes Dougie Cooper home; Dougie touches the guard's badge as he enters the house; as he leaves, one of the security guards hands Janey-E an envelope that was on the ground by their front door; Dougie and Janey-E then sit at the table eating sandwiches and chips; Janey-E tells Dougie she is taking him in to see Dr. Ben the next day at lunchtime; she asks what his stack of papers from work are and he says "case files"; she looks at the envelope that was laying by their front door and it has nothing written on it; she sends Dougie upstairs to say goodnight to Sonny Jim; in his room, Sonny Jim is laying in his bed reading a book by booklight; Dougie enters with his chip bag and offers one to Sonny Jim who says no because he has already brushed his teeth, but asks to turn on the bigger cowboy light to read by; Sonny Jim claps the light on and Dougie claps it back off - they are having fun until Janey-E calls Dougie back downstairs; she is mad because Dougie was supposed to call the guys after him about the money and didn't and inside the envelope she has found a picture of Dougie with the prostitute, Jade ("Jade give two rides", "I'll BET she did"); the phone rings and it is the men wanting their money which Janey-E agrees to meet them with at the park at the corner of Guinevere and Merlin the next day at noon thirty; she hangs up the phone and tells Dougie to get started on his "case files" homework and as she leaves the room we see Dougie tracing the 7 from the Lucky 7 Insurance logo on a "case files" envelope.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - The infamous traffic light at Sparkwood and 21 is swinging in the wind and making a crackling electrical sound (more on this light after the synopsis).
---The Waiting Room (The Red Room) - Phillip Gerard walks around with his hand lifted, trying to find a way to communicate with Dougie Cooper.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - Dougie is about to work on his "case files" homework when he begins to see The Waiting Room's floor patterns merge with the carpet in his room; Phillip Gerard says to him, "You have to wake up. Wake up. Don't die. Don't die. Don't die."; Dougie then begins to open up the "case files" and small greenish "truth" lights begin to twinkle on the pages; Dougie begins to scribble and draw circles, lines and ladders all over the insurance papers he is looking at and we can see that each page seems to contain Anthony Sinclair as the agent in charge of the report and there are also two cops - Detective Loomis and Detective Stockton - that get their names marked by Dougie Cooper.
---Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Albert is just getting off the phone with Gordon Cole - who is obviously relaxing with a lady friend - as he parks his car; it is raining hard and Albert opens an umbrella and curses Gene Kelly before entering a place called Max Von's Bar where he finds a blond woman - Diane Evans - sitting at the bar; he calls out "Diane" and she turns around and says, "Hello, Albert".
---???????????????????? - In an old logging warehouse somewhere between Twin Peaks and the Canadian border, the sounds of drugs being snorted can be heard as we see a number of armed men guarding Red; we then see that it was Richard Horne that was testing out the new Chinese designer drug "Sparkle" which apparently has quite a kick; Red tells Richard that he can pick up the rest at Mary Anne's and Richard looks surprised that Red knows her; Red does some fast hand movements while talking to Richard about moving the "Sparkle" down from Canada into Twin Peaks; Red starts stomping the ground and explains that he has a problem with his liver; after asking Richard if he's ever seen the movie The King and I, Red let's Richard know that he will be watching him and calls him "kid" which Richard does NOT like; Red let's the "kid" know that he will saw his head open and eat his brains if Richard tries to screw him over. Then he pulls out a dime and flips it in the air - it hangs in the air mysteriously for a few seconds before magically appearing in Richard's mouth; when Richard pulls it out of his mouth it disappears from his hand and drops into Red's hand; Red holds out his hand with the dime upside down on it and says, "this is you" and then flips it over so that it shows heads and says, "this is me - heads I win, tails you lose"; Richard Horne is high as a kite, but still begins driving briskly back towards town, REALLY pissed about having been called a "kid" repeatedly by Red.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - At the New Fat Trout Trailer Park - which has moved much closer to Twin Peaks - Carl Rodd is saying hello to Bill who drives him into town each day; Mickey asks if he can ride into town with him so that he can pick up Linda's mail; Linda is apparently a wounded war veteran who is doing better and about to finally receive an electric wheelchair paid for by the Veterans Administration; Carl lights up a cigarette and offers one to Mickey, but he declines saying he quit; Carl comments that he's been smoking for seventy-five years; inside the RR Diner, Heidi is standing and giggling while talking to a customer - schoolteacher Miriam Sullivan - who has just finished two slices of cherry pie; before leaving she orders two coffees to go - one decaf for her and one regular for "one of the moms who loves Double R coffee"; Miriam ends up leaving a tip that both Heidi and Shelly think is too much for her to be leaving and vow to give her a free slice of pie the next time that she is in the diner; Richard continues to barrel down the road on his way back into Twin Peaks; Carl sits in the park enjoying another cigarette and staring at the sky; a mother and her young boy run past him playing a game of Catch-Up as Carl sips on his coffee; Richard is seen approaching the intersection at Sparkwood and 21 where a line of cars has slowed down traffic; Richard floors it and moves around the line of cars just as the boy crosses the street and he hits and kills the boy with his car before speeding away from the scene of the accident; Carl, in the park nearby, hears the mother scream; Richard speeds away yelling "I told you to get out of the way" and as he passes by the diner, Miriam sees him and appears to recognize him; the mother sits on the ground at the intersection crying and clutching her dying son whose soul - looking like burning fire - can be seen leaving his body and moving up towards some electrical wires and beyond; Carl mutters, "God" under his breath and then crouches down to comfort the grieving mother; we are shown the electrical pole nearby which, just like the one near the original Fat Trout Trailer Park, has the numbers 324810 and a giant 6 on it and we can hear that electrical crackling sound emanating from it.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - Mr. Todd sits typing at his desk (see below for what he is typing); suddenly a large red square covers half of his computer screen and he looks nervous; Mr. Todd opens a safe in his desk drawer and with surgical gloves - so as to not leave any of his own fingerprints - removes a white envelope with a small black dot on it; in the Rancho Rosa housing development, police are busy tagging the scene of Dougie's exploded car and finding the license plate up on the roof across the street which belongs to the Drugged-Out Mother who once again starts shouting "119"; at a motel nearby, Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler sits rolling dice and entering numbers into a notebook; the white envelope with the small black dot is slipped under his door; he opens it and finds the pictures of Lorraine and Dougie Jones; he rubs the tip of his icepick on both pictures and then stabs each of them with the icepick; at the Lucky 7 Insurance company, the elevator opens and Phil Bisby exits with an arm full of coffees though Dougie Cooper lags behind (but looking sharp with his black FBI suit on); the doors open and close a few times before Phil coaxes him out, and when the elevator doors accidently close on him the electrical sound of the elevator seems to affect him a little bit; as he is following Phil, Dougie is called into Bushnell Mullins' office - Anthony Sinclair watches him walk to the boss' office from his own; in his office, Bushnell proceeds to pour over the "case files" that Dougie Cooper brought back to work - looking quite disgusted with all of the childish scribbles - and at one point asking "how am I gonna make any sense out of this" to which Dougie replies, "make sense of it"; Bushnell looks again at the "case files" while Dougie Cooper studies the "Battling Bud" poster over his desk until it looks like he is finally beginning to see a pattern forming; he thanks Dougie and asks him to keep the information to himself adding, "this is disturbing"; Bushnell goes to shake Dougie Cooper's hand, but Dougie just turns around imitating him with his hand thrust out; meanwhile, Janey-E is meeting up with the two thugs that called her - Tommy and Jimmy - in the park to pay off her husband's gambling debt on a football game and to give the two a piece of her mind about being one of the 99%; she gives them $25,000 and not the $52,000 that they are asking for (which is her "first, last and only offer"); Lorraine is sitting at her desk in her office when Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler comes in and stabs her viciously in the chest with his ice pick, and when he is forced to take out an office worker who witnessed the event we see him returning down the hallway looking quite sad when he realizes that he has bent - and ruined - his ice pick.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - Richard Horne drives his truck to an isolated part of the woods nearby - near the Ghostwood Forest, most likely - and wipes the blood off the front of the truck from where he just struck and killed the child with some water and a rag (which he then discards near the woods); in the bathroom at the Sheriff's Department, Hawk drops an Indian head nickel from his pocket and it rolls into a stall; as Hawk recovers the nickel he sees that the company logo on the stall door says Nez Perce Manufacturing; as Hawk peels back the metal on the bathroom stall door, Deputy Chad Broxford comes in to use the bathroom, is told by Hawk to use the ladies room, and then says he's going to narc out what Hawk is doing to Sheriff Frank Truman; Hawk continues to pry back the metal door of the stall until he finds a small clump of papers; back in the Communications Room, Sheriff Frank is handing out paperwork to Deputy Chad Broxford and Deputy Jesse Holcomb as Maggie takes 911 calls when suddenly his wife Doris comes bursting into the office complaining once again about her dad's car not working; Sheriff Frank takes her into his office and Deputy Chad Broxford starts mocking her and when Maggie explains to the others that Doris wasn't like that before their son committed suicide, Deputy Chad starts fake crying and mocks him as well saying, "he couldn't take being a soldier"; Deputy Jesse Holcomb, meanwhile, just stares off into space; at The Bang Bang Bar (aka The Roadhouse), Sharon Van Etten and her band are performing as various couples dance.
---CLOSING CREDITS - The credits roll over the rest of the performance by Sharon Van Etten.








Things are coming to a head for our pal Dougie Cooper. The next time we see him - in Part 7 - I imagine that Dougie's pot is going to boil over. I'll go into more details in a minute. But, for now, let's look at what new questions Part 6 brought to the table...



QUESTIONS

1.) Who is Dr. Ben and exactly what was he treating Dougie Jones for? Is he a physical doctor or a mental doctor? Was Dougie prescribed any medication for his "episodes"? And will Janey-E now be taking Dougie to see him the next day (since that trip got ruined by her having to meet with the thugs in the park instead)?
2.) Why does Dougie Cooper trace the 7 with his finger on the "case files" envelope? The number 7 seems to be popping up on the show more and more lately. Does this mean something?
3.) Why does the traffic light at the corner of Sparkwood and 21 crackle? Does it have something to do with Phillip Gerard in The Waiting Room/Lodge trying to contact Dougie Cooper?
4.) What exactly does Phillip Gerard mean when he tells Dougie Cooper that he has to "wake up"? Does he mean to wake up to who he really is or to wake up from the world that he thinks he is in?
5.) What exactly are the greenish "truth" lights that Dougie Cooper keeps seeing in relation to Anthony Sinclair and why? They seem to only have to do with Sinclair related lying.
6.) Why did Dougie Cooper mark Detective Loomis and Detective Stockton on the "case files"? Were they actually helping Anthony Sinclair with his embezzlement scheme?
7.) Who is Mary Anne and what else does she do in Twin Peaks? Do we know either of her parents? And exactly how does Red know her?
8.) Why does Red talk about having liver problems and then grab a part of his body that is closer to his appendix? Is Red The Magician (or Magickian) even from around these parts?
9.) Why does Red like the movie "The King And I" so much? You'd think he'd like Fight Club or a good Tarentino film much more.
10.) How does Red perform the magic with the dime - first floating it in the air, then having it land in Richard's mouth, then returning to Red's hand? Does this cat actually have powers? Could he be the grownup version of Pierre Tremond - the kid that made the cream corn disappear?
11.) Why did Carl Rodd move the Fat Trout Trailer Park closer to the town of Twin Peaks and when did he do it? Was it HIS choice or somebody else's?
12.) What exactly DOES Carl do in town every day and who does he know and see there? We know he goes to the RR Diner because he was drinking one of their coffees in the park.
13.) Is the Linda in the Fat Trout Trailer Park the same Linda mentioned by The Giant (or ???????) during Part 1? And, if so, how is she involved with a Richard?
14.) What exactly happened to Linda during the war that put her in a wheelchair? And will her "electric" wheelchair be what drags her into all of this?
15.) Who did Miriam Sullivan order the regular RR Diner coffee for? Do we know this person or care that she's bringing them a coffee? She mentioned that it was for a mom - could it have been for the mom whose kid just got killed by Richard Horne?
16.) How and why did Miriam leave such a large tip that she can't afford on a teacher's salary? Is she possibly selling some of that "Sparkle" drug to her students for a little extra cherry pie money? Could Miriam possibly be Mary Anne, the newly heard of drug runner in town (and friend of Richard Horne AND Red)?
17.) Why and how did Carl Rodd see the boy's soul drift upwards looking like a burning fire? Did Carl mutter "God" under his breath because the boy's soul was innocent enough to bypass the electrical wires and not be sucked in and used by the Lodge denizens and therefore is now with God?
18.) What does the red square on Mr. Todd's computer screen mean? Is this someone alerting him that he needs to activate the midget assassin? And, if so, who is it that puts the red square on the computer screen and orders it?
19.) Why does the Drugged-Out Mother begin saying "119" again in what appears to be reused footage from Part 3? Is this being used as a marker like the two different scenes of Sam and Tracey in Parts 1 and 2 so that they can be lined up for us to then view something else? Is Lynch showing us a brand new way to view film?
20.) What exactly is Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler doing with the dice and notebook before he receives the white envelope with the hit orders? Is he determining some kind of probability? And, if so, a probability of/for what?
21.) What exactly did Bushnell Mullins find in the "case file" reports that Dougie Cooper gave him? Did he see that Anthony Sinclair is embezzling money from the Lucky 7 Insurance company? And will he have Sinclair arrested before Sinclair can confront Dougie Cooper? My guess is no.
22.) Why do two new thugs - Tommy and Jimmy - go to meet Janey-E and are they connected to Gene and Jake and do they all work for the same person? What happened to Gene and Jake and the Mikey that we never really met? And do they all work for the same person Lorraine was working for? And Mr. Todd? And Ike? Can I get a new scoresheet?
23.) Will Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler have to go and get a new custom ice pick made before he goes to take care of Dougie Cooper? I'm guessing yes, but it won't take long.
24.) Is the place where Richard Horne goes to clean up his truck a regular meeting place for the drug trade in Twin Peaks? If so, that would explain the other abandoned cars and trucks in the area and why Richard knew that he could safely use it. But I'm hoping that somebody finds that bloody rag.
25.) What are the papers that Hawk finds in the stall in the bathroom at the Sheriff's Department? They've got to be the missing pages from Laura Palmer's diary that mentions Dale Cooper being stuck in the Lodge which will lead Hawk to Glastonbury Grove.
26.) Is there a reason that Deputy Chad goes from trying to use the bathroom in one scene to sitting in the Communications Room in the next? It's probably nothing, but if either scene is actually out of place chronologically, it could mean that it's a place marker for viewing two or more scenes at once later like the Sam and Tracey match ups. Just saying.
27.) What IS wrong with Sheriff Frank's wife's dad's car? Is there ANYTHING wrong with it? Does she even have a dad that is still alive? Is all of her madness really just grief from their son having committed suicide?
28.) Could Frank and Doris' son be named Richard? Did he and Linda over in the Fat Trout Trailer Park serve together in the war? Were they both hit by the same mine ("two birds with one stone")?
29.) Why does Deputy Jesse Holcomb begin staring off into space when Deputy Chad starts fake crying and mocking Frank and Doris' son's suicide? Was Jesse a good friend of his? Or were they more than just friends?



Time has gotten away from me this weekend. So real quick before I go and watch Part 7 (starting in less than half an hour from now)...



MR. TODD'S LETTER
Here's part of the letter that was on Mr. Todd's computer screen before the red square showed up:

To understand how income statements are set up, think of them as a set of stairs. You start at the top with the total amount of sales made during the accounting period. Then you go down, one step at a time. At each step, you make a deduction for certain costs or other operating expenses associated with earning the revenue. At the bottom of the stairs, after deducting all of the expenses, you learn how much the company actually earned or lost during the accounting period. People often call this ďthe bottom line.Ē



TRAFFIC LIGHT AT SPARKWOOD AND 21

At the night of her death Laura Palmer jumped off of Jamesí motorcycle at Sparkwood and 21, cried out "I love you James" and ran into the woods to her death. During Fire Walk With Me, this is the same intersection that Mike pulls up to Leland's car when he's out with Laura and starts screaming at him about BOB having stolen a can of corn.



MORE BLACK AND WHITE LODGE INSPIRATION

There's a book called The Devil's Guard by Talbot Mundy from 1926 whose storyline is that two adventurers begin a quest to rescue an old acquaintance from the clutches of some dupgas from a place called the Black Lodge in Tibet.



THE BATTLE - IN FOUR FURIOUS ROUNDS

Here's this week's big prediction - it's been in Bushnell 'Battling Bud' Mullins old boxing poster the whole time and staring us right in the face.

In Part 7, we will see Dougie 'Battling Bud' Cooper go through "four furious rounds". Part 7 premieres on June 18th - same date as the poster. At 7:30pm Las Vegas time - same time as on the poster - we will be halfway through watching the premiere of the show on the east coast. It is around this time that I believe Dougie Cooper will get dragged back to the casino by his old friend Bill Shaker. He will have to become out Agent Cooper and fight in "four furious rounds" - just like the poster says. One of the rounds will be against the thugs that Janey-E paid who will be after the other $27,000 owed. Another round will be against Anthony Sinclair who will be coming after Dougie Cooper just as soon as he finds out what Dougie did to him at work. And don't forget about Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler who will be another of the four rounds that Cooper will have to battle before it all culminating in a meeting of Cooper vs. the Casino mob bosses.

Okay, maybe not. But that sure does sound like an exciting episode, doesn't it?


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Thru the darkness
of Future Past
the magician longs to see
one chants out
between two worlds
Fire -- walk with me


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Some random notes and questions, I'm sure I'll think of more later...

Is the dark and dirty figure that vanished from the prison cell the same one we saw tonight walking past the morgue where Major Briggs' body was being examined by Lieutenant Cynthia Knox?

There seems to be two different types of electrical hums. One is heard when the dark figure is passing by the morgue (ominous) and the other is in Benjamin Horne's office (pleasant...Josie?)

Speaking of Major Briggs, how is his body still in his 40's when he should be in his 70's?

Dougie Cooper seems to have remembered some of his FBI combat training and disarmed The Spike like a pro! Janey-E was awesome in this scene too, trying to strangle him. She keeps surprising me with how tough she is. Naomi Watts is just fantastic.

The Arm made another appearance during this fight, telling Dougie Coop to squeeze/twist off The Spike's hand. When the police recover the gun it appears some skin from this would-be assassin is still attached to it.

We all knew Diane would be able to tell immediately that the Evil Cooper was not the real Cooper, and this was confirmed tonight. Exactly what happened between them at her house?

Oh, and fuck you Tammy!

Again, the ring finger of the left hand was pointed out to us as having significance, being called "spiritual" by Gordon Cole.

Jean-Michel Renault is obviously continuing all aspects of the family business: drugs, prostitution, and of course the Roadhouse.

Poor Andy was so naive to believe that guy would show up when and where he said he would. Unless of course someone else got to him first.

Who the hell is Bing? blink

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I'm in love with Janey-E
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I'm in love with Janey-E
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She is kicking ass and owning every scene she's in!
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Evil Coop meets with Warden Murphy and reveals he's got some dirt on him related to a Joe McClusky. Enough dirt to convince the Warden to release him along with inmate and associate Ray Monroe, who we know was arrested when caught trying to move weapons over the state line. He and Darya had supposedly been contacted by Phillip Jeffries to kill Evil Coop. Where will they go after being released?

We have confirmation that the pages taken out of the stall door are in fact the missing pages from Laura Palmer's diary and that it was Leland that hid them. Apparently there is still one missing though.

Is the hum in The Great Northern Hotel different from the others because Josie is still somehow connected to it?

Thanks to the Skype session between Sheriff Frank Truman and Doctor Hayward we know that Audrey Horne was in a coma after the explosion and that Evil Coop may have visited her before disappearing.

I'm really hoping this doesn't mean that he did something terrible to her while she was comatose with the implications being Richard Horne is their son. The interaction and conversation between Evil Coop and Diane seemed to hint at the same thing happening to her the last time they met. The conversation was:

Diane: When did we see each other last?
Evil Cooper: Are you upset with me, Diane? I think youíre upset with me. At your house.
Diane: Do you remember that night?
Evil Cooper: Iíll always remember that night.
Diane: Same for me, Iíll never forget it.

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funbox, I've noticed your fixation on the garmonbozia/creamed corn and how you think Mrs. Tremond's grandson used a magic trick to somehow make it travel in time to when Evil Cooper is vomiting it in his car.

However I have a slightly more plausible theory. Remember in Part 2 when Evil Cooper is at a restaurant talking with Jack, Ray, and Darya. Look closely at what he's eating...indeed, it's garmonbozia yet again.

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Does anyone think with the news coverage of Dougie's heroics that someone will see it and recognize him as Dale Cooper?

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Bob likes creamed corn.

It's all about judeo masonic satanism. The Black Hole beings. Come to kill everyone and raze the planet.

I am so SICK of these memes. It is like the creamed corn lovers -- eating vomit. However, due to the similarities I am encountering in real life, I cant quite ignore this series 100% (the way I did when it first came out). I never understood it even dimly back then. Now it scares the creamed corn out of me and I think that is the desired effect.

This is actually a form of trauma-based mind control -- shows like this. Mass media is being used for that now. It is technically a form of warfare against the civilian population...
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Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.

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not a secret, a reexplaination for you, seeing as you asked for it, ide thought ide do it in pictures,you like pictures dont you beast ;)

ide be interested to know how you know how everyone clocked it missing the first time around. that gastalt must be a headache for you.. what a bain

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funbox, I've noticed your fixation on the garmonbozia/creamed corn and how you think Mrs. Tremond's grandson used a magic trick to somehow make it travel in time to when Evil Cooper is vomiting it in his car.

However I have a slightly more plausible theory. Remember in Part 2 when Evil Cooper is at a restaurant talking with Jack, Ray, and Darya. Look closely at what he's eating...indeed, it's garmonbozia yet again.

garmonbozia
 Quoting: Sweetroll Bandit


somebody paying attention , good on ya gal.. you wouldnt be good at coin tricks would you ? :D

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Let's get back to talking about the show and not your absolute hate for anyone who doesn't think exactly like you do.








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funbox
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Worthless.
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indeed, to a mind that knows, but you seem to think everybody knows, ide like to know how you know that..

interesting

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twin peaks is shit, allways was always will be. obtuse nonsense people mistake for art. lynch is a snake oil salesman, wake up, the only thing that happens when watching anything he made is a feeling of unease and slight depression after it is over.
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Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.

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not a secret, a reexplaination for you, seeing as you asked for it, ide thought ide do it in pictures,you like pictures dont you beast ;)

ide be interested to know how you know how everyone clocked it missing the first time around. that gastalt must be a headache for you.. what a bain

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The kid being hit by the truck was way over the top.
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Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.

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not a secret, a reexplaination for you, seeing as you asked for it, ide thought ide do it in pictures,you like pictures dont you beast ;)

ide be interested to know how you know how everyone clocked it missing the first time around. that gastalt must be a headache for you.. what a bain

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The kid being hit by the truck was way over the top.
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what do you mean Ac ? wasnt it a perfect example of chaos theory, in this instance *the flip of a coin*=/ the flap of a wing

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what is with all the wasted scenes? are there secrets in them? like when the guy was sweeping for five minutes. or what evil dale cooper held that broad in a bed for fifteen minutes, just acting weird as heck. people watching tv and tv commercials sometimes, random people?


there must be a reason for it ya? they aren't just laughing at us and filling up their 1 hour tv requirement ya? because that is what it feels like, like when you run out of content for something so you just kind of mumble through as filler.
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Well, that was quite the episode. Let's see what everyone has to say about it. AND introduce our brand new Twin Peaks troll mascot..








Some random notes and questions, I'm sure I'll think of more later...

Is the dark and dirty figure that vanished from the prison cell the same one we saw tonight walking past the morgue where Major Briggs' body was being examined by Lieutenant Cynthia Knox?

There seems to be two different types of electrical hums. One is heard when the dark figure is passing by the morgue (ominous) and the other is in Benjamin Horne's office (pleasant...Josie?)

Speaking of Major Briggs, how is his body still in his 40's when he should be in his 70's?

Dougie Cooper seems to have remembered some of his FBI combat training and disarmed The Spike like a pro! Janey-E was awesome in this scene too, trying to strangle him. She keeps surprising me with how tough she is. Naomi Watts is just fantastic.

The Arm made another appearance during this fight, telling Dougie Coop to squeeze/twist off The Spike's hand. When the police recover the gun it appears some skin from this would-be assassin is still attached to it.

We all knew Diane would be able to tell immediately that the Evil Cooper was not the real Cooper, and this was confirmed tonight. Exactly what happened between them at her house?

Oh, and fuck you Tammy!

Again, the ring finger of the left hand was pointed out to us as having significance, being called "spiritual" by Gordon Cole.

Jean-Michel Renault is obviously continuing all aspects of the family business: drugs, prostitution, and of course the Roadhouse.

Poor Andy was so naive to believe that guy would show up when and where he said he would. Unless of course someone else got to him first.

Who the hell is Bing? blink

sbdougie
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Quite a lot to swallow all at once, huh? Yeah, the blackened figure looked very similar to the jail cell being (and also to the dumpster diver in Mulholland Drive). I'm not sure WHAT to make of it at this point.

The dark figure walking past the morgue evokes the same crackling sound as what we're used to hearing when these entities move around. The hum at the Great Northern is definitely different.

I had a feeling that no other bodies had shown up with the Major during all of those years of his prints being found. The age difference bothered Lieutenant Cynthia Knox. And it bothered me. This is one of the most compelling new mysteries in The Return - aside from the weird boxes in New York and Argentina, of course. He should be 25 years older. He should NOT have Dougie Jones' wedding ring in his stomach. And since Major Briggs was working very closely with Colonel Dougie Milford, I can't help but wonder if that Dougie has anything to do with the Dougie Jones construct?

Yes, our Agent Cooper is on the mend. Dougie Cooper took down that pint sized assassin real slick-like. And with Janey-E helping out, I'm a little surprised that he got away.

I don't think that what they recovered on the gun came from Ike The Spike. It looked more like the residue that was found in the trunk of Bill Hastings' car at the end of Part 1. It could even be connected to the visit by The Evolution Of The Arm.

I'm pretty sure that when Cooper showed up at Diane's house, she expected that the two of them would finally make love and he showed up as Evil Cooper and started doing things that she didn't want done. I'm thinking that he more or less raped her that night.

Yeah, I don't think Tammy made a very good first impression on Diane.

The same ring finger where Dougie Jones wedding ring should be, the same ring finger that everyone has worn the Owl Cave Ring on, and the same finger that represented the backwards word "yrev" when Evil Cooper gave Gordon Cole an improper greeting.

It was great to finally understand the situation with Jean-Michel Renault. Damn, he looks a LOT like his dead cousin Jacques. And now we know that the Roadhouse has been in their family for over half a century.

Andy is always so accommodating and this time it probably cost them a clue. When we last saw the house, the front door was flapping open in the wind - it looks like Richard might have taken care of his witness.

Bing is the guitar player in the Roadhouse house band - Trouble. He is played by Riley Lynch (David's son). I can't find him in the episode even though he is listed. It doesn't look like it's him sweeping up when Jacques receives his phone call. But that's who the kid at the end ran into the diner and asked if anybody had seen. Apparently, he's missing.








I'm in love with Janey-E
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You say that every week. Got anything else to bring to the party?








I'm in love with Janey-E
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She is kicking ass and owning every scene she's in!
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Absolutely! If she doesn't win an Emmy for this performance she will have gotten robbed. Even more so than Kyle MacLachlan.








Evil Coop meets with Warden Murphy and reveals he's got some dirt on him related to a Joe McClusky. Enough dirt to convince the Warden to release him along with inmate and associate Ray Monroe, who we know was arrested when caught trying to move weapons over the state line. He and Darya had supposedly been contacted by Phillip Jeffries to kill Evil Coop. Where will they go after being released?

We have confirmation that the pages taken out of the stall door are in fact the missing pages from Laura Palmer's diary and that it was Leland that hid them. Apparently there is still one missing though.

Is the hum in The Great Northern Hotel different from the others because Josie is still somehow connected to it?

Thanks to the Skype session between Sheriff Frank Truman and Doctor Hayward we know that Audrey Horne was in a coma after the explosion and that Evil Coop may have visited her before disappearing.

I'm really hoping this doesn't mean that he did something terrible to her while she was comatose with the implications being Richard Horne is their son. The interaction and conversation between Evil Coop and Diane seemed to hint at the same thing happening to her the last time they met. The conversation was:

Diane: When did we see each other last?
Evil Cooper: Are you upset with me, Diane? I think youíre upset with me. At your house.
Diane: Do you remember that night?
Evil Cooper: Iíll always remember that night.
Diane: Same for me, Iíll never forget it.
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I'm pretty sure that Evil Cooper is going to use Ray to take him somewhere and then kill him for the double-cross. I'm guessing that he is headed south to the border and his home in Rio de Janeiro.

Of course, there is still a page missing from Laura's diary. I wonder what THAT one says. But, at least, Hawk is beginning to understand what happened twenty-five years ago.

That's an interesting thought about Josie there, Sweetroll. It didn't even enter my mind until I read your comment. But that makes sense - especially if she is somewhat stuck there as she appeared to be the last time that we saw her.

Poor old Doc Hayward (rest in peace, Warren Frost). How poignant for Mark Frost to have that segment air on Father's Day. They had a hard time even filming it because of Warren's Alzheimer's.

It does look like Evil Cooper probably had his way with Audrey when she was still in a coma. I do believe that Richard is their offspring. And I do believe, like Diane, that she was raped and taken by force. Sad, but true.








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funbox, I've noticed your fixation on the garmonbozia/creamed corn and how you think Mrs. Tremond's grandson used a magic trick to somehow make it travel in time to when Evil Cooper is vomiting it in his car.

However I have a slightly more plausible theory. Remember in Part 2 when Evil Cooper is at a restaurant talking with Jack, Ray, and Darya. Look closely at what he's eating...indeed, it's garmonbozia yet again.

garmonbozia
 Quoting: Sweetroll Bandit


The garmonbozia represents pain and suffering. And reading through and trying to decipher funbox's weekly comments really helps one to understand that concept.








Does anyone think with the news coverage of Dougie's heroics that someone will see it and recognize him as Dale Cooper?
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Yeah, my wife. That was the first thing she said when she woke up Monday morning. She's figuring that the FBI - or Gordon Cole in particular - will be told about the footage. Of course, with Evil Cooper out and about, they'll be capturing our Agent Cooper and thinking he's the same one that just got away. If they're in the same reality. If Dougie's world is even real. If...








Bob likes creamed corn.

It's all about judeo masonic satanism. The Black Hole beings. Come to kill everyone and raze the planet.

I am so SICK of these memes. It is like the creamed corn lovers -- eating vomit. However, due to the similarities I am encountering in real life, I cant quite ignore this series 100% (the way I did when it first came out). I never understood it even dimly back then. Now it scares the creamed corn out of me and I think that is the desired effect.

This is actually a form of trauma-based mind control -- shows like this. Mass media is being used for that now. It is technically a form of warfare against the civilian population...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16220025


You're psychotic. You could find Satanic imagery in a bowl of Cream Of Wheat. Enjoy the rest of the shows and the way that they take over and end the world as we know it by September.


TPChad








Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.

 Quoting: BEAST333


not a secret, a reexplaination for you, seeing as you asked for it, ide thought ide do it in pictures,you like pictures dont you beast ;)

ide be interested to know how you know how everyone clocked it missing the first time around. that gastalt must be a headache for you.. what a bain

funbox
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Maybe if you knew how to actually string a sentence together properly you could make a point that we could all understand and debate. Since it wasn't hidden to begin with - except maybe from YOU - I'm assuming that most people watching could see where that garmonbozia clearly went to.








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funbox
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funbox, I've noticed your fixation on the garmonbozia/creamed corn and how you think Mrs. Tremond's grandson used a magic trick to somehow make it travel in time to when Evil Cooper is vomiting it in his car.

However I have a slightly more plausible theory. Remember in Part 2 when Evil Cooper is at a restaurant talking with Jack, Ray, and Darya. Look closely at what he's eating...indeed, it's garmonbozia yet again.

garmonbozia
 Quoting: Sweetroll Bandit


somebody paying attention , good on ya gal.. you wouldnt be good at coin tricks would you ? :D

funbox
 Quoting: funbox


You two have fun with that. Sweetroll - definitely show him the one where he chokes on the dime.








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Worthless.
 Quoting: BEAST333


indeed, to a mind that knows, but you seem to think everybody knows, ide like to know how you know that..

interesting

funbox
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Are you kidding? Bubbles could have figured THAT one out. You really don't need to be an Einstein to know that most of the things that you post here are pretty much worthless to the discussions. You've already had posts removed. So please stop SPAMming the thread with nonsense and repeating the same thing over and over if you wish to keep posting here.








twin peaks is shit, allways was always will be. obtuse nonsense people mistake for art. lynch is a snake oil salesman, wake up, the only thing that happens when watching anything he made is a feeling of unease and slight depression after it is over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75066638


Another one that most likely flunked out of film school. Hell, probably didn't even make it THAT far.

Thanks for stopping by, Chad!


TPChad








The kid being hit by the truck was way over the top.
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Well, that was last week's show. But yeah, I agree. It was absolutely brutal. That's why it had to mean something. Lynch does not use violence against children very often. And when he does he is telling us something by doing it. There is a LOT going on in that scene if you watch it closely.








Of course I saw the cream corn vanish from the grandson's hands. So did everybody else that watched the original series. It's never been a secret even though you seem to think you've stumbled onto a new clue.

 Quoting: BEAST333


not a secret, a reexplaination for you, seeing as you asked for it, ide thought ide do it in pictures,you like pictures dont you beast ;)

ide be interested to know how you know how everyone clocked it missing the first time around. that gastalt must be a headache for you.. what a bain

funbox
 Quoting: funbox


The kid being hit by the truck was way over the top.
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what do you mean Ac ? wasnt it a perfect example of chaos theory, in this instance *the flip of a coin*=/ the flap of a wing

funbox
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Or the flap of some gums.








what is with all the wasted scenes? are there secrets in them? like when the guy was sweeping for five minutes. or what evil dale cooper held that broad in a bed for fifteen minutes, just acting weird as heck. people watching tv and tv commercials sometimes, random people?


there must be a reason for it ya? they aren't just laughing at us and filling up their 1 hour tv requirement ya? because that is what it feels like, like when you run out of content for something so you just kind of mumble through as filler.
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Nope. It's not like that at all. Everything IS there for a reason. And there ARE secrets in those spaces. I've talked about some of them. If you were really here to learn about the show, you might do just that. But you do have to be smart enough to figure out what some things mean on your own. And there's the rub. You may be watching the show, but you sure as hell aren't getting it.

But hey Chad, thanks for wasting your time watching a television show that you obviously don't understand and then posting to a thread - where nobody cares what you think - about how much you hate it.


TPChad







That's it for now. I'll be back with the Part 7 synopsis soon. Until then, play nice...


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beast, you mad bro?
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beast, you mad bro?
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indeed , thin skin , and all it took was some creame corn.. facinating..


so Beast o' so clever, WHY DOES GORDON OBSESS ABOUT THE MAIZE ?

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beast, you mad bro?
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Nope. Why would I be mad? You're projecting.








beast, you mad bro?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59485455


indeed , thin skin , and all it took was some creame corn.. facinating..


so Beast o' so clever, WHY DOES GORDON OBSESS ABOUT THE MAIZE ?

cornyBox
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Nope. No thin skin here. Like the other idiot - you're projecting. You have something to say - say it. Stop with all of the guessing games and BS posts. Maize has NOTHING to do with the origin of garmonbozia. You are just grabbing nonsense that has been disproven for years and trying to clog up this thread.

THIS IS YOUR SECOND AND FINAL WARNING, FUNBOX!


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I think BEAST is one of the last people on GLP that would have thin skin. hugs

By the way, I love the new Chad meme! He's so incredibly annoying so it's perfect.

I'm so curious about what that final missing page from Laura Palmer's diary contains, and where it is hidden. Why wouldn't Leland/BOB keep it with the others he hid? Does someone else have it?

And thank you so much for telling me about Bing, I had no idea.
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I think BEAST is one of the last people on GLP that would have thin skin. hugs

By the way, I love the new Chad meme! He's so incredibly annoying so it's perfect.

I'm so curious about what that final missing page from Laura Palmer's diary contains, and where it is hidden. Why wouldn't Leland/BOB keep it with the others he hid? Does someone else have it?

And thank you so much for telling me about Bing, I had no idea.
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Thanks, Sweetroll!

Yeah, nothing thin about my skin. Apparently they just don't like the fact that I won't let them derail this thread.

Our TP Troll meme HAD to be Chad. Glad you likey.

And I know, what the heck? We FINALLY get the diary pages after two and a half decades and now we're still missing a page? I'l bet that plant humper Harold Smith stashed it somewhere. That guy always gave me the creeps.

You're welcome! I'm just here to help.



UPDATE: That's the bottom line - I am here to help. I love Twin Peaks (in case you can't tell). But not enough to tolerate abuse from idiots. I woke up today to yet another batch of SPAM messages from funbox. These got pretty personal. So they have been banned from this thread. And anyone else who makes personal attacks on me or anybody else on this thread or SPAMS this thread with nonsense will receive the same treatment. I spend my time analyzing this show because I love it and I want to. And I want to hear from others that are also following the greatest show and mystery ever on television. If you don't like the show - great. You want to tell us that - fine, tell us and leave. You're allowed to not like it. And you can even tell us that. We don't care. But you don't need to keep coming back and saying the same things over and over again (like the fool all hung up on Mark Frost's tweets). This thread is for people who enjoy the show and want to talk about it anm\d try and figure out some of it's intricate mysteries. I'm done dealing with people who seem too ignorant to understand the show at all yet insist on coming back to this thread to hassle those of us who are following it closely. So let's get back to some discussions, shall we?


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Yet another fascinating part and one that puts us right back on track for a collision between Dougie Cooper and Evil Cooper's worlds.

I do have a correction - after going back and rewatching Part 7, I am convinced that the man running into the diner at the end of the show is actually Bing. And what he asks is if anybody has seen BILLY. So who Billy is becomes the new question. But there is even more weirdness with that diner scene if you watch it closely. I'll put in my two cents after a synopsis of Part 7...



PART 7

---OPENING CREDITS - Laura Palmer's face superimposed over the falls and then as it fades - brand new shots of the falls, the red curtains from The Waiting Room/Black Lodge, and the floor of The Waiting Room/Black Lodge.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - Jerry Horne is sitting in the forest looking slightly panicked; he calls his brother Ben to tell him that he can't find his car, he doesn't know where he is, and that he's high; at the Sheriff's Department, Hawk is showing Sheriff Frank Truman the diary pages that he found in the bathroom stall (though one of the four pages is still missing) including the part where Laura Palmer talks about Annie and the good Dale still being in the Lodge and unable to leave; they then discuss that it was most likely Leland Palmer who put the pages in the bathroom stall; Hawk realizes that if the good Cooper is still in the Lodge then the one that came out of the Lodge that night must not have been the good Cooper; Sheriff Frank calls Harry and it sounds like they have Harry in the hospital and the news on his tests weren't good; due to the circumstances, Sheriff Frank does not fill Harry in on the diary situation; Andy is at a farmer's house where he has found the truck that was reported to have been involved in the hit and run accident with the child; the farmer admits that it's his truck, but says that he can't talk about it now so they agree to meet on the logging road near Sparkwood and 21 at 4:30pm; Sheriff Frank Truman calls Doc Hayward and asks for his Skype handle and they end up talking about the night that Agent Dale Cooper got out of the Lodge, was taken to his room at the Great Northern, and Doc Hayward examined him; Doc Hayward says he took him to the hospital to get checked out and then saw him sneaking out of intensive care fully dressed about an hour later; Doc Hayward says Cooper looked at him with that "strange face again" and then ignored him when Doc called out to him; Doc Hayward says that he thinks Cooper had been checking in on Audrey Horne who was also in the hospital in a coma at the time following the bank explosion.
---Buckhorn, South Dakota - At the Buckhorn Police Department, Lieutenant Cynthia Knox has just arrived from the Pentagon and is asking Detective Dave Macklay about the set of fingerprints that were submitted to the database and he tells her that they were lifted from an actual body; at the Morgue, CSI Agent Constance Talbot shows Lieutenant Knox the headless body and Knox asks how old the body is and when it died and is told late forties and within the last five or six days; Lieutenant Cynthia Knox calls her boss, Colonel Davis, and reports that there's a body and that "it's him" (meaning Major Garland Briggs); Colonel Davis tells her to stay there and that he will make the other call now; as this is all happening, a blackened figure similar to the one that was in the jail cell near Bill Hastings is sauntering down the hallway towards Lieutenant Cynthia Knox and the crackling humming electrical sound can be heard; Colonel Davis hangs up with Lieutenant Knox and makes another phone call; back in the Morgue, Lieutenant Knox lets Detective Dave Macklay and CSI Agent Constance Talbot know that it won't be their investigation for too much longer and as she does so, we can see the blackened figure shambling past the doorway.
---Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - At FBI Headquarters, FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole sits at his desk whistling and we see that he has a picture of an ear of corn on one wall; Albert interrupts him to let him know that things didn't go so well meeting with Diane Evans; Albert tells Gordon that it is his turn to talk to her and Gordon asks if Albert will come with him; Albert tells him to "say please", Gordon says, "what?", Albert says "you heard me", and Gordon says "please"; at Diane Evans' house, Gordon and Albert are greeted by a younger man who lets them in before leaving; Gordon explains to Diane that it's extremely important that she help them in identifying Cooper and that it "involves something that you know about, and that's enough said about that"; FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole, FBI Agent Albert Rosenfield, FBI Agent Tamara (Tammy) Preston and Diane Evans are on a plane heading for the federal prison in South Dakota (as we see the plane fly in the sky, a code is seen to be flashing on the windows and exterior of the plane which look like sun flashes but aren't); Diane sits on the plane drinking out of some little alcohol bottles; Tammy shows Gordon and Albert the fingerprint anomaly that she found between Agent Cooper's fingerprints from twenty-five years ago and his fingerprints from prison; Albert says that some cro magnon at the prison flipped the ring finger print around to try and get them to match; Gordon points out that the finger matches up with the second word of Cooper's greeting which was backwards - yrev; Gordon then takes Tammy's hands and reads across them saying, "I'm very, very happy to see you again old friend" and explains that the ring finger is the "spiritual mound" and then tells Tammy to think about it; Albert then shows them the only known picture of Evil Cooper from the last twenty-five years which is him, well dressed and standing in front of an expensive looking house outside Rio de Janeiro (which, when checked, now belongs to "some girl from Ipanema").
---Sioux City, South Dakota - At the Yankton Federal Prison, after saying "fuck you, Tammy" to Agent Preston, Diane goes into an interrogation room and confronts Evil Cooper - still behind protective glass; Diane asks him about the last time that they saw each other and he replies, "at your house"; Evil Cooper says he will never forget that night and Diane says the same; she asks who he is and looks deep in his eyes and then is finished; as they are leaving, Cole tells Warden Murphy to hold Evil Cooper until he hears from the FBI; once outside, Diane takes Gordon off to the side and tells him that that is NOT the Dale Cooper that she knew and that there is definitely something missing inside of him; when asked about their last night together she tells Gordon that the two of them will have a talk sometime; Diane then takes a slug of alcohol from one of the small flight bottles and says, "cheers to the FBI" sarcastically; inside the prison, Evil Cooper is led back to his cell (#28) where he tells the guard to let the warden know that he needs to speak with him "about a strawberry".
---Twin Peaks, Washington - Andy waits on the logging road for the farmer to meet him with information about the truck involved in the hit and run with the child; when we see the farmer's house again, the back door is hanging open on it's hinges very ominously; Andy looks at his watch - a Rolex - and sees that it is 5:05pm (the farmer was supposed to meet him at 4:30pm).
---Sioux City, South Dakota - Evil Cooper is led by guards to Warden Murphy's office and then he is shackled to a chair; Warden Murphy says he turned off the security cameras and then pulls out a gun and points it at Evil Cooper; Evil Cooper mentions the dog leg and the fact that the dog had three other legs that went out with the information that Warden Murphy is thinking about and then mentions two people that Warden Murphy does not want coming around the prison if anything should happen to Evil Cooper; Warden Murphy asks how he can be sure that Evil Cooper knows anything about "this" and Evil Cooper simply replies, "Joe McClusky" which causes Warden Murphy to stagger, sit down in his chair, and put down the gun; Warden Murphy asks him what he wants and Evil Cooper tells him a cheap rental car for him and Ray Monroe with a "friend" in the glove compartment at 1:00am that night - "smooth and safe"; Evil Cooper warns him about turning on him and reminds him of the dog legs and tells Warden Murphy that if he gets away they'll never see him again and no one will ever hear anything more about Joe McClusky or the late Mr. Strawberry.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - Janey-E stands outside her car at Dougie Cooper's work (near the lawman statue) waiting for her husband to get off work; Dougie Cooper is in his office scribbling on reports when Anthony Sinclair comes by the office to ask if there's a reason that Dougie isn't talking to him, but Dougie just seems to ignore him; Janey-E shuts the car door and starts to make her way into the building and to her husband's office; Sinclair continues to ask Dougie questions, mainly about what he was talking to their boss, Bushnell Mullins, about; Rhonda comes in to say that there are some police officers there to see Dougie Cooper and at the mention of the police, Sinclair suddenly remembers that he has a phone call that he needs to make; the police - Detective D. Fusco, Detective T. Fusco, and Detective 'Smiley' Fusco - enter Dougie Cooper's office and flash a badge which Dougie tries to touch just as Janey-E arrives; the cops start asking questions about Dougie Cooper's car and as Janey-E starts to explain that it is missing, Bushnell Mullins enters the office to see what is going on; the cops keep asking questions about where Dougie left the car, but Bushnell wasn't born yesterday and he flat out asks the cops if they have already found the car - which they admit that they have; the police explain that the car was involved in an apparent explosion and that there were multiple fatalities of people associated with a gang that specializes in car theft; an exasperated Janey-E tells the cops that they wish to go home and when one Detective Fusco says that they'll need to fill out some paperwork first, one of the other Detective Fusco's tells them that they can do it the next day and the cops leave; Bushnell wants to go over those "case file" reports a little closer with Dougie, but after a stern look from Janey-E he says that they can go over them the next day; as they are walking to the car and Janey-E is telling Dougie Cooper all about meeting the thugs in the park and paying them off, Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler comes running through the crowd outside towards Dougie and Janey-E with a gun in his hand; in true Agent Cooper style and movement, Dougie Cooper pushes Janey-E aside to safety and lunges at Ike, knocking him over and causing the gun to go off but - as far as we know - not hit anybody; Janey-E comes over and begins to choke the midget hitman as Dougie Cooper sees a vision of The Evolution Of The Arm coming out of the pavement that says, "squeeze his hand off"; Dougie Cooper karate chops Ike The Spike in the throat causing him to drop the gun and run away (and as he lets go of the gun we see a large wound on the palm of Ike's hand); as it gets dark we see Dougie Cooper and Janey-E telling two policemen what happened and Dougie trying to touch their badges; witnesses say what they saw - a little girl says that Ike The Spike smelled funny and another woman says that Dougie Cooper moved like "a cobra"; the police discover a bloody clump of something on the gun (that resembles the same thing found in Bill Hastings car in South Dakota back in Part 1).
---Twin Peaks, Washington - At the Great Northern Hotel, Beverly Paige has noticed a distinct humming coming from one corner of a room near a totem (maybe her office); as Beverly and Ben Horne search for the source of the humming, she gives him the key to Room 315 which has just arrived in the mail and he comments on it being an old twenty year out-of-date key and the same key that had once been to Agent Dale Cooper's room when he was investigating the murder of Laura Palmer; when Beverly asks for more details Ben tells her, "that, my dear, is a long story"; Ben tells Beverly to have maintenance take a look at it in the morning and they stand around mildly flirting for a few minutes before Ben tells her to call him Ben and not Mr. Horne and then Beverly leaves; the corner of the room continues to hum; Beverly Paige arrives at home just as her husband's private nurse is leaving; the nurse tells Beverly that her husband was waiting for her to get home before eating and that he is missing her; Beverly goes inside and her husband, Tom Paige - in a wheelchair and with an oxygen tube in his nose - asks her why she was so late and she says, "some things came up and I needed to do them"; she then rails at him for making her feel guilty and says that she is only working because she has to in order to help them survive and that he'd better not fuck that up; meanwhile, at The Bang Bang Bar (aka The Roadhouse), a man is busy sweeping up the floor and Jean-Michel Renault is counting out the register at the bar (to the sound of "Green Onions" by Booker T. and the MG's); the phone rings and Jean-Michel answers it - letting the person on the other end know that "he owes me for two" and saying that he sent "him" two blonds, that they both had good ID's, that "it" has nothing to do with The Roadhouse, that The Roadhouse has been owned by the Renault family for 57 years and that they weren't going to lose it now over a couple of fifteen year old straight A students, and then he reiterates that "he owes me for two".
---Sioux City, South Dakota - Evil Cooper's cell door (#27) opens and he exits; soon, he is joined in the hallway by Ray Monroe; once outside of the prison, a guard leads them to a beige rental car and they drive off (with Ray driving and Warden Murphy watching them leave).
---Twin Peaks, Washington - At the RR Diner - after an ominous sounding long shot of the Ghostwood Forest outside Twin Peaks - a man named Bing (played by Riley Lynch - so it may or may not be one of the members of the band Trouble that played earlier at The Roadhouse) runs in and yells, "hey, has anybody seen Billy?".
---CLOSING CREDITS - The credits roll as customers enjoy their meals, cherry pie and coffee at the RR Diner to the sounds of an instrumental version of the Santo and Johnny hit "Sleep Walk"; there are several jump cuts where the diner patrons change, the items on tables change, etc. which may signify a time lapse or Lynch could be showing us alternate timelines converging; additionally, there is a second piece of music that begins to ominously creep into the soundtrack over the Santo and Johnny song - a little piece of music by Angelo Badalamenti from the second season called "Windom Earle Motif"; and near the end, with Deputy Bobby Briggs sitting with someone at a table in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen, it appears that Bing - who we saw earlier run into the diner and then back outside - comes from the back of the left-hand side of the diner and moves towards the front door; this episode is dedicated "In Memory Of Warren Frost" (Mark Frost's father) - Doc Hayward.








Of course, a new part just means that we have a slew of new questions. So here's a list of what I came up with from Part 7 (if you can think of any more, please list them)...



QUESTIONS

1.) Where is the fourth missing diary page, what's on it, and who hid it and why? I'm guessing that it was Harold Smith and that he ripped it out of the diary because Laura Palmer made fun of him and his lovemaking on that page.
2.) What were the results of Sheriff Harry S. Truman's tests? From the fact that Sheriff Frank didn't then let him in on what Hawk had found, I'd say that the results were not good - it sounded like they were even going to keep him there at the hospital (if not a hospice).
3.) Why can't the farmer talk to Andy when asked about the truck? I'm thinking that Richard Horne is at that very moment inside the farmer's house.
4.) What does Doc Hayward mean when he says that Agent Cooper had that "strange face again" when he saw him at the hospital? What kind of face was Evil Cooper making? Was it his "how's Annie" face?
5.) Did Evil Cooper visit Audrey Horne when she was in a coma and did he rape and impregnate her? That would mean that Richard Horne is possibly his son. Or, he could have been visiting Annie who was probably also in intensive care in order to get the ring back (which he might have found on one of the nurses who stole it from Annie during a scene from The Missing Pieces).
6.) How can the now deceased Major Briggs only be in his late forties if just killed when he should be in his early seventies? You got me. Unless he's been residing in The White Lodge himself and only being sent out for special missions to keep track of Evil Cooper.
7.) Who and/or what is the blackened figure that is walking down the hall when Lieutenant Cynthia Knox is on the phone with Colonel Davis and again when she is in the Morgue with Detective Dave Macklay and CSI Agent Constance Talbot? Whoever it is, I believe it is important. Could it be one of the two woodsmen last scene at that meeting above the convenience store? Or could it be the charred body of Major Garland Briggs that died in a fire in late March of 1989.
8.) Why does FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole have a picture of an ear of corn on his wall? Does he really just like corn? Or is it connected to his knowledge of garmonbozia?
9.) Is Gordon Cole not quite as deaf as he makes himself out to be? He seemed to be able to hear Albert better than he was making it appear. With his new hearing device, is he just so used to saying "what" that he says it automatically?
10.) What did Gordon Cole mean when he said to Diane that it "involves something that you know about, and that's enough said about that"? Was Diane aware of the Blue Rose cases?
11.) What exactly is the code being flashed by the airplane? I have no idea (see below).
12.) What does Gordon mean when he tells Tammy that the ring finger is the "spiritual mound"? This one will take a lot of research to fully understand. But that finger is known in palmistry as the Sun Finger.
13.) When and for how long did Evil Cooper live in Rio de Janeiro? He looks pretty well off. (This was actually the home of mobster Al Capone for awhile and this picture is of one of Al's cousins coming out of the house and they photoshopped in Evil Cooper.)
14.) What exactly happened the last time that Evil Cooper saw Diane at her house? I believe that she consented to have sex with him but that it turned weird. When she told him to stop, he didn't. So he essentially raped her.
15.) How can Andy afford a Rolex watch? That's a pretty expensive watch for a cop that's NOT on the take for letting illegal drugs come into Twin Peaks.
16.) What happened to the farmer that made him miss his meeting with Andy on the logging road at 4:30pm? I think Richard killed him. But we did get our first 430 with Richard. There's just no sign of Linda or any birds or stones.
17.) Who are the two people that Evil Cooper says Warden Murphy does not want coming around the prison if anything should happen to Evil Cooper? Jeffries for one? Good or Evil. A Briggs? The Hutch family?
18.) Who exactly is Joe McClusky that Evil Cooper mentioned to Warden Murphy and what happened to him? And will we EVER get the answer to this one? I hope Warden Murphy screws up with Evil Cooper so that we do.
19.) What are the reports that Dougie Cooper is scribbling on and what exactly is he scribbling this time? The scribbles look different. I need to dig into blow ups of this stuff in order to even begin to decipher it.
20.) Why did the little girl say that Ike 'The Spike' Stadtler smelled funny and what exactly did he smell like? Did the little guy pee himself or is it kinda like that deadly garmonbozia smell and maybe from some Lodge peeps.
21.) What was the bloody clump that the police found on the gun and where did it come from? If you freeze frame the gun being pried from Ike's hand, you can see that his palm is wounded. So I believe that it came from him. But why? Did our Agent Dougie Cooper "squeeze his hand" SO hard that some of the skin came off?
22.) What is the weird humming sound that Beverly Paige discovered in the Great Northern Hotel? We all want it to be Josie. But could that be? Keep in mind, it started happening as soon as Agent Cooper went through the electrical wall plug and popped out in the Dougie Jones world.
23.) What exactly is wrong with Beverly Paige's husband, Tom Paige? It looks like cancer to me. But we don't know for sure yet.
24.) Has Tom messed things up for Beverly at a previous job by his jealousy and possessiveness? She sure made it sound that way. Of course, his constant jealousy was always bound to send her into another lover's arms. Hello, Ben!
25.) Who calls Jean-Michel Renault at The Roadhouse to complain about someone else's two blond whores? I'm gonna guess that it's Red. But we may never know.
26.) Who was the person who actually ordered the two blond whores from Jean-Michel Renault that the person calling was complaining for? Ah, that's a better question. But does it matter? I guess we'll find out if we need to.
27.) Why does Evil Cooper's jail cell change from #28 to #27 between going to see Warden Murphy and being released just a few hours later? This may seem like nothing, but I believe that just like in so much of Lynch's work, I believe that we are seeing two realities. Though apparently, we should be calling them two (or more) different timelines (see below).
28.) Who is the Billy that the man named Bing runs into the diner to ask about? I'm thinking that it's probably the farmer whose truck was used by Richard in the hit and run of the little boy. The question will then be whether or not Billy gets blamed for the hit and run (and only the schoolteacher Miriam really saw Richard's face).
29.) Why do the patrons change during the diner scene so much? you know what I'M going to say. But I'll admit that in THIS case maybe it IS just a time lapse and not some kind of alternate town of Twin Peaks. Though thge jury is still out on that one (see below).
30.) Who is the person that Deputy Bobby Briggs is sitting with? He doesn't look like a drug runner. More like another cop. But not really a cop that would be on the take. He looks pretty straight and trustworthy.
31.) Why is the "Windom Earle Motif" music woven into the end of the Santo and Johnny song as the credits roll? I JUST discovered this a few hours ago. Does that mean that Windom Earle is indeed back? Is he in the diner while the music is playing? Is he in one timeline but not the other?



And there you have it. Now it's time to discuss a couple of things real quick before the next part starts in just a few minutes from now...




LINK POINTS

Who knows how many things we have already missed in Twin Peaks: The Return? Every week seems to bring new theories and questions to the table. And there are points that can be lined up to match other points - as in the Sam and Tracey glass box sequence that I showed you earlier. There are other link points in it and I'm sure that there will be even more. There are a LOT of numbers which I believe are to be used for these link points. In a recent interview, Kyle MacLachlan said that Twin Peaks: The Return is not a film or a television show but instead is actually "moving art".



THE AIRPLANE CODE

And some of those numbers could be codes. We got a doozy of a code during last week's show. It took me awhile to find anybody else who even noticed it, but of course, somebody finally did. When Gordon, Albert, Tammy and Diane fly to South Dakota there is a quick shot of an airplane flying. Did anybody see the flashing lights on the windows that looked like sun reflection? Well, it wasn't. Go to the link below to see what really happened during that sequence.

[link to welcometotwinpeaks.com]



THE BILLIONAIRE

The billionaire who funded the glass box in New York City has got to be Evil Cooper. Now that we've seen one of his old cribs down in Rio de Janeiro, I think we can assume that he has done fairly well for himself over the last twenty-five years and is most likely the billionaire with a contraption that can capture a returning Agent Cooper and prevent him from entering this reality (or timeline as we need to start calling it).



MULTIPLE TIMELINES

During some interviews, Robert Engels - who was trusted so much by Lynch that he was allowed to write the Fire Walk With Me screenplay with Lynch after Frost was shut out from it due to the direction that he wanted it to go. Engels was right there with Lynch on what the story REALLY meant and how they were going to portray it (and fix a few things) within the movie. Engels has said that there are moments of time distortion in the film; not time travel, but more like alternate timelines bumping against each other. You can see this clearly at the end of the Convenience Store clip from The Missing Pieces. You are shown BOTH timelines happening simultaneously. "Is it future? Or is it past?"



THE DINER SCENE IN PART 7

And that brings us to the diner scene at the end of Part 7. When the scene begins, there are different people at the counter. The camera flips to the other side of the diner and we see Bing running down the street towards the front door. The camera goes back to where it was originally as Bing yells, "hey, has anybody seen Billy?", but the people at the counter have changed. So has other people in the diner. And the amount of pies and donuts on display. And many other things are different. When the camera flips back to the other side, it is now different as well. We can see Deputy Bobby Briggs and a friend in the lower right-hand corner. And if you watch, near the end of the credits you can see the Bing character walk from the back of the diner to the front door - not at all worried about "Billy". Is time simply passing here? Or are we being clearly shown another timeline?



NORMA'S MOTHER

Speaking of the diner, Norma's mother in the original series was Vivian Smythe Niles who had recently gotten remarried to Ernie Niles (a former cellmate of Hank's) and she was very much alive and actually the infamous restaurant critic M.T. Wentz. But in The Secret History Of Twin Peaks, we are told that Norma's mother's name was Ilsa and that she died in 1984 - five years before we meet the town due to the murder of Laura Palmer. Norma and Big Ed's history is also different than what we know from the old series. When confronted with these discrepancies, Mark Frost said that there was nothing wrong and that "all will be revealed in time". TIME! When asked about the conflicting information in another interview he was quoted as saying, "an explanation will come in time". Again with the "time" comments. So take it for what it's worth. I have often referred to it all as another reality. But actually, it's another timeline. And somehow they are bumping into each other. Or something like that.



Will we EVER figure all of this out? All I know is...


TPMoreCoffee
Thru the darkness
of Future Past
the magician longs to see
one chants out
between two worlds
Fire -- walk with me


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Part 8. WTF did I just watch?
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Part 8. WTF did I just watch?
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THis is just plain awful....I just watched episode 8 and I am finished. Nothing significant has happened and this was like a psychedelic movie from the 60s.....sorry it was awful
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and this was like a psychedelic movie from the 60s.....
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Wow there's a lot to go over now!

So after tonight's episode it seems like our discovery of nuclear weapons/atomic energy is what opened the door, and caught the attention of the Giant and his people.

It's as if they are notified whenever worlds reach that milestone and are dispatched to them to oversee the progress. But then again, so are the other entities like BOB and the other dark figures we've been seeing (the jail cell, the morgue, and now healing Evil Coop after he was shot and the convenience store.)

And we have another poem to analyze...

"This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full, and descend..." I really wish I had written the part about the horse down...

Was very happy to see Trent Reznor and NIN performing in the Roadhouse!

Gotta light? wink

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Part 8. WTF did I just watch?
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The whole episode was pretty much nauseating
Psychedelic visual effects.

I feel like I should have skipped that episode.
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Wow there's a lot to go over now!

So after tonight's episode it seems like our discovery of nuclear weapons/atomic energy is what opened the door, and caught the attention of the Giant and his people.

It's as if they are notified whenever worlds reach that milestone and are dispatched to them to oversee the progress. But then again, so are the other entities like BOB and the other dark figures we've been seeing (the jail cell, the morgue, and now healing Evil Coop after he was shot and the convenience store.)

And we have another poem to analyze...

"This is the water, and this is the well. Drink deep, and descend..." I really wish I had written the part about the horse down...

Was very happy to see Trent Reznor and NIN performing in the Roadhouse!

Gotta light? wink
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What an episode.



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