THAT'S IT! NO PIE FOR YOU!!!










I'm not so sure that it's THAT easy. Besides, he is now The Sycamore Tree From Another Place.










Indeed. Well said. My sentiments exactly!










Not yet. But he was always "digging" things on a different level than the rest of us.










I just rewatched Parts 1 & 2 with a friend who was gone over the weekend. Boy, the second time through it really starts to feel a little more like the old episodes. Not it's timbre, of course. But just the way it flows. Even though it's so much more intense. It's twenty-five years later, even the intro has matured, but it still feels like Twin Peaks to me. Only better.

As for Jacoby - you got some more ideas there, Morgan? Don't hold back on us now. What did you think of when you said mountain man? I can't for the life of me figure out where your mind went with that thought. Am I missing something?

God, I'm gonna love the next few months.










Great find! I remember this scene well. I always thought that it meant Hawk would wind up inside The Black Lodge trying to find the Good Dale. But now, it takes on a whole new meaning after Parts 1 & 2. And now, it all makes more sense since Margaret told him that finding what is missing of Cooper has to do with his heritage. His Nez Perce heritage (which are the indians who ruled over this region before the white man came).










This is good. Every page of this thread is delving a little deeper into the mystery. I'm glad to have all of you here and posting. THANK YOU ALL! This is great and we should have a fun summer with this. We didn't have online forums to talk about the show the first time around. And it's a show worth discussing as it unfolds.

Walter Olkewicz who originally played Jacques Renault has had some serious knee problems over the years resulting in multiple (19 I think) surgeries on just one of his knees. So that's probably what you heard about and why he might have shown some discomfort standing behind that bar. BUT - and here's where I don't like going - he's a Scientologist. I bring this up NOT to begin a discussion on Scientology, but as a warning.

Walter has done MANY funding campaigns over the last decade to raise money for his various knee operations. And, from what I can tell, he's still doing it. Some people believe that this is all just a sham and that he does this to help raise money for Scientology. I'm just bringing this up in case any of you beautiful and dedicated Peakers decide to send Walter some money to help him out. Understand where the money that you send may be going.

As for his role on the new Twin Peaks - see my previous posts for more details on exactly what I think is happening with time and space on the show. But here's the quick facts - Jacques was the second of three brothers. The other two being his younger brother Bernard and his older brother Jean - both of whom we know from Season 2. And there are NO other Renault brothers. His character is listed as Jean-Michel Renault. It would have to be a cousin or something. But he looks EXACTLY like Jacques. Which leads me to believe we are looking at an alternate version of the town of Twin Peaks.

I've heard those theories that you mention. They've always been there. "Is it future, or is it past"? We are looking at a linear timeline. EVERYTHING that has ever been or will ever be has already happened. I think THAT has already been proven. For instance, Annie in Laura's bed - bloodied up like she was at the end - telling Laura to write things in her diary about the Good Cooper being trapped in the Lodge. Neither Cooper nor Annie even arrived in town - let alone discovered and entered The Black Lodge - until AFTER Laura died. That pretty much proves the linear timeline right there.

There's also Cooper's dreams. Are they really prophetic? Are they even dreams? Or is he just tapping into that timeline where the future has already happened and grabbing clues?

Now - not to downplay my own theory, but to add to it and confuse it a bit - in Fire Walk With Me, there's a VERY important scene in Gordon Cole's FBI office. Agent Phillip Jeffries (played beautifully by the late great David Bowie) has been missing for almost two years. Agent Cooper has had a dream in which Jeffries shows up on a certain date and at a certain time, gets off the elevator, walks down the hall to Cole's office, and proceeds to tell Cooper, Cole and Albert Rosenfield what he has learned from the mysterious "Judy"(we'll get into who "Judy" may be later). But things go awry. Cooper assembles everybody in Cole's office. That's why Albert is there. Because Cooper told Gordon that he NEEDED him there. He looks at his watch, sees the time approaching, and goes to watch the security feed from the hallway.

And THAT'S where things get real strange, but I believe are tied in with where we are NOW.

At the appointed time, the elevator opens...but there is no Agent Jeffries. I believe this is because Jeffries is fighting what the forces are attempting to make him do. He is far from being a willing victim. (REMEMBER: Jeffries has pretty much been trapped in time - Between Two Worlds - for almost two years and HE IS PISSED!) So Cooper checks his watch a few times, goes back and forth between standing in the hallway staring at the security camera and going back in the room and watching the camera feed on a monitor. But at one point, COOPER SEES HIMSELF IN THE FEED. It's not a Good Coop / Evil Coop thing like with the Lodges. This is a time slip. OR two realities. Take your choice. Jeffries FINALLY appears, walks into Coles office and immediately tells all present, "Well now, I'm not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we're not gonna talk about Judy at all. We're gonna keep her out of it." Cooper is distraught because the dream vision isn't going right. He interrupts the proceedings and says "Gordon..." and is cut off. He's about to say "Gordon, he's supposed to tell us all about Judy. In my dream that's how it went. I'm sure of it. Something's not right, Gordon".

This whole scene reeks of an alternate reality. One in which things aren't exactly the same as they are in the other. But does that then mean that Cooper was dreaming about an alternate reality? Or is the Cooper experiencing all of this in Cole's office actually from an alternate reality and doesn't quite fit. At one point, Jeffries points at Cooper and says to Gordon Cole, "Who do you think this is there"? He CLEARLY knows something about Cooper that neither Cooper himself or us understand yet. And again, Cooper hasn't even left for the town of Twin Peaks yet.

And then, after Jeffries tells them of having been to a meeting above a convenience store he turns to Gordon and says - as if to explain away EVERYTHING - “we live inside a dream”. Is the original world of Twin Peaks just a dream inside another reality? It was very surreal to be a real world. Are we just NOW finally seeing the REAL town and inhabitants of the town of Twin Peaks. Dr. Jacoby seems real woodsy suddenly. Are we finally meeting the REAL Dr. Jacoby? Who lives in a shack in the woods and collects shovels instead of Hawaiian shirts?

Was it a dream? Was it another reality? Is it future? Or is it past?

So yeah, Laura could easily still be alive. In one of the realities. You are absolutely correct that Leland tells the Good Cooper in the Lodge to find Laura. And Laura must have visited the Red Room through the painting because I'm pretty sure that when she awoke and saw Annie afterwards, she also then had the jade ring in her hand. The various town doppelgängers is interesting. But like with Jacques - wouldn't some people recognize him and know that there were only the three brothers? People who have died can't just come back to town. But I agree and have always thought that there were probably more of those interdimensional beings than just Bob running around in the streets of Twin Peaks.

As long as everyone doesn't end up in a diner with eight seconds of black film and silence and/or it all doesn't end up being someone's dying vision and/or the entire town is inside a snow globe in a souvenir shop somewhere, I think it will all work itself out in the end...