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Five reasons to deny 9/11 was an inside job

 
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Here is an example of how delusional and uninformed some of the bunkers are. This statement was taken from a post made in the thread acid mentioned a few posts above.

Thermite burns in just a few seconds.

small amounts might ignite in a few seconds , larger amounts take time or it explodes and vapourises - unless you care to show me where im wrong instead of directing me to google.

You must have missed the videos showing thermite burning through a car engine in just a few seconds.



>>you still havent shown me any really bright light sources comming from the windows in the WTC just before it collapses<<

Why would you see light in the windows when the columns are deep inside the WTC at the core? The exterior panels were not loaded with thermite. No need to burn that aluminum structure when taking out the core takes away all the buildings strength.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163909


If you are familiar with the construction of the WTC towers you know that the perimeter of the building consisted of very close-spaced structural steel. The aluminum was only a facia that covered that structural steel.

In order to cut all those structural members (about 240 spaced about the perimeter of the building) would have required thermite cutting right where it would be most visible. The amount required would have been quite blinding.

Thermite is not used for building demolition. There is a reason for that, it's just not suited to that purpose.
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Well now i find it hard to believe the World Trade Centre were purposely infested with termites. I thought termites ate wood not steel. Better find another explanation.
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"You forgot lack of evidence."
___________________________

We have a CONFESSION and LOTS of VIDEO EVIDENCE.

You just can't allow yourself to see because you are afraid. Ang the media is controlled to keep you ignorant.

Don't fool yourself.

Get out of the darkness and wake up.



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So you really have nothing!
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The only real reason why people believed that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job is because they wanted to believe it was an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence and they wanted the government to be complicit in it because they are biased against the government, most especially those who despise and loath the Bush administration already.

The 9/11 truthers are comfortable with the facts the 9/11 attacks were an inside job so declared by conspiracy theorists with historic or concurrent bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are complacent with the facts 9/11 attacks were an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence other than just various hearsay, uninformed opinions, questionable proposals and theories brought up by others with historical bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are cowards who bashed or bullied rational-minded people and credible experts who thought there's no way in the world that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and recognized that it is impossible to get a large number of people within the government who coordinated an "inside job" on a massive scale.

The 9/11 truthers are convicted they are right and everyone else are wrong: the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and the government/Bush administration were behind this. They will intimidate, bully and terrorize people to buy their flimsy arguments in order to justify their positions and hatred without question.

The 9/11 truthers are colluding with insane-minded, irrational or violent peoples or groups who hate the US government and the Bush administration that they are willing to resort to violence and intimidation just to legitimize their arguments, brand everyone who supported the US gov't/Bush administration as war criminals, polarize and divide the nation with hate and intolerance, leading to an unnecessary civil war and forcing the government to impose draconian or martial law upon everyone.

So, thank you for polarizing and dividing the USA, 9/11 truthers!
hf hiding
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Dude, that's kind of insulting to the families who lost their loved ones in Flight 77.

If Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon then what happened to the passengers?

Do you mean Flight 77 landed somewhere safely and the "Illuminati" killed everyone on board without anyone leaking this information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203908

Have you looked at the passenger lists?
United Flights 93 and 175 [link to www.public-action.com]

United Airlines first released this on Sept. 12, 2001, the day after. Notice anything peculiar? There are no Arab sounding names on the list. Did UA already know that anyone with an Arab sounding name was a terrorist the day after?

Here's the list of "victims" on Flight 77: [link to edition.cnn.com]
On this list, they have claimed to purposely leave out the names of the hijackers since they aren't "victims." But, if you study the list, you can notice something intrigueing. This would be speculation and I'm not going to lead any one on this trail. I'll let them think and find for themselves.
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You forgot lack of evidence.


EXACTLY. There is no evidence that it was an inside job. Why? BECAUSE IT WASN'T AND INSIDE JOB.

Geesh that bit is really getting tiring. What I can't understand is why so many Americans are willing to believe the inside-job nonsense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 200670



well if you are so tired about hearing about that inside job nonsense why are you waisting your precious time on a conspiracy site

just go back to your comfortable life and believe the official version about the event like the majority of the population.

if you are getting tired of us just leave, and in the process you will free us of your stupidity and ignorance
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Well now i find it hard to believe the World Trade Centre were purposely infested with termites. I thought termites ate wood not steel. Better find another explanation.
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you should have done some reaserch before saying that.

thermites is a mixture including aluminium that can burn at extremely high temperature melting and cutting steel just like a blow torch would do
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The 9/11 truthers are colluding with insane-minded, irrational or violent peoples or groups who hate the US government and the Bush administration that they are willing to resort to violence and intimidation just to legitimize their arguments, brand everyone who supported the US gov't/Bush administration as war criminals, polarize and divide the nation with hate and intolerance, leading to an unnecessary civil war and forcing the government to impose draconian or martial law upon everyone.

So, thank you for polarizing and dividing the USA, 9/11 truthers!
hf hiding
 Quoting: God's Shadow

Don't confuse hating Bush and government with hating America you asswipe. I usually don't go into name calling but I love this country and what it was founded on when we overthrew the chains of despotism. When I see this country because of it's so called government heading back to despotism, believe me it's not hate that is driving me, but love for my fellow countrymen who love the values that this country was founded upon.
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Terrier, you are the biggest fucking loon on this site. Take your shit elsewhere. You suck.
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sockpuppet Terrorists the new bad guys to Democracy.
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But, if you study the list, you can notice something intrigueing. This would be speculation and I'm not going to lead any one on this trail. I'll let them think and find for themselves.
 Quoting: Chuck


I looked at the list and found nothing unusual - what were you thinking was intriguing?

And has ANYONE on GLP ever seen a post on GLP by a surviving family member of anyone 'lost' that day?
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You nailed it 203844, it was a job done inside America by foreign operatives not Americans,


those who had the most to gained from it: a reshaping of western opinion to support their cause by identifying to their daily "struggle".
 Quoting: tachik0ma 203486



you've got Half the Answer- -
it was a plot by foreign operatives, in America, under the
sponsership of U.S. intel agencies...


who in the final analysis, -> played the U.S. intel agencies for dupes and arseholes, as they lived high
and partied mightly at the intel agencies expense,

feighning a possibility of becoming USA 'assets' in the spy field...but gaining the training & expertise in areas
like 'pilot training'/'flight schools' which the 'dumb'
middle eastern men were supposed to be grateful for!


gimme a break, the reaL disinfo agents are the ones spewing the garbage that it; had 2 B an Inside Job

to deflect any serious introspection/investigation....
pretty much like the very early release of the identies of the [..hijackers)...as a way to detour or
roadblock those pathways that led up to the 9/11 operation of sabotage, aided in its completion by the incompetance
of the hallowed FBi/CIA/Anti-Terrorism-Counter-Intelligence
'wall-of-protection' that was non-existant during the Carter-Bush 'window' of idea/planning/opportunity !!!!!!!
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You forgot lack of evidence.

Check out all the military people and intelligence agents, who don't believe the official story, and why they don't.

[link to www.patriotsquestion911.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 160399



hi Hi AC,

Good catch. Did not read it all but the either the first ten people have a wrong assessment of what happened on 9/11 or the official story is a lie. The stories are diametrically opposed.

Now which story does non-scientific armchair quarterbacks like us here at GLP believe?

1. We have an administration who have proven to be liars concerning their reasons for the Iraq war, so why should we believe their "official 9/11 story?

2. The administration has consistently sold off, conveniently lost, or sealed the evidence which could prove or disprove their story. All they have to do is release the evidence and the conspiracy theories would go away?

3. Where are the blue prints for WTC #7 showing inferior architectural design, or proof of inferior construction by American contractors or workers? Are other builders in 2nd and 3rd world countries more competent that they can build structures that burn for days and not implode or fall down?

4. Can they demonstrate how a airplane with over a hundred foot wingspan and a 44 foot high tail can suck itself into a 20 x 30 foot hole without even damaging the adjacent beams or breaking the nearby windows? Where were all the engines, the landing gear, and the thousands of aircraft parts that should have been strewn about the scene?

5. And the luggage would have been thrown all over the place? Certainly some of the ladies light weight unmentionables should have been blown outside? After all, a passport survived the explosion and flames, and fell 90 stories to be conveniently found by the CIA at the WTC.

6. Why was the investigation over so quickly? After all, it took years and thousands of hours of research to determine that Clinton had sex with "that woman" by using DNA from a dress that conveniently had not been washed or re-worn for over two years.

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The 9/11 truthers are colluding with insane-minded, irrational or violent peoples or groups who hate the US government and the Bush administration that they are willing to resort to violence and intimidation just to legitimize their arguments, brand everyone who supported the US gov't/Bush administration as war criminals, polarize and divide the nation with hate and intolerance, leading to an unnecessary civil war and forcing the government to impose draconian or martial law upon everyone.

So, thank you for polarizing and dividing the USA, 9/11 truthers!
hf hiding

Don't confuse hating Bush and government with hating America you asswipe. I usually don't go into name calling but I love this country and what it was founded on when we overthrew the chains of despotism. When I see this country because of it's so called government heading back to despotism, believe me it's not hate that is driving me, but love for my fellow countrymen who love the values that this country was founded upon.
 Quoting: Chuck


I love this country, its values and most of the American people, it's asshats within the 9/11 truth movement who are dividing and polarizing everyone with their hatred and intolerance!

I once had a debate with a 9/11 truther who almost went hostile and nearly violent on me when I disagreed with his arguments. He resorted to name-calling and backstabbing comments about me afterward. He's pretty much typical like the rest of the 9/11 truthers.

The country is not heading toward depotism unless you and your kind are pushing for it! That's what really disturbing me the most.
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Maybe the Isrealis did it and just those few Americanz in the right places let it happen/didn't stop it.
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Just wondering...
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Pinning argument/opinion threads like this, really cheapens the merit of getting a thread pinned.

Who did this Daniel?

Figures.
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Pinning argument/opinion threads like this, really cheapens the merit of getting a thread pinned.

Who did this Daniel?

Figures.
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i was just going to post that.

this is pinned horse manure.
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1.Comfort.

Comfortable people do not dissent. They rarely question authority,

Why would any comfortable person question his government about circumstances he cannot control?

2. Complacency.

Complacent people rarely make waves, create dissension, cause an uproar. They prefer not to talk about politics and religion, nor to do any independent thinking.
 Quoting: Terrier


It took 60 years for me to find that FDR KNEW & Wanted the Japs

to Attack Pearl Harbor as Reason for USA entry into WAR!!!

So What is NEW???

Let me Simplify for the "Comnfortable" & the "Complacent ETC. ETC..

9/11 Started the War on "Tearism."

Yet the Borders are Still WIDE OPEN !!!!

Open Borders MAKE NO SENSE !!!

Unless "Juan" deduces as I -

That those that Perpetrated the 9/11 Operation are the SAME

ones in Charge of Leaving the Borders WIDE OPEN !!!!


There you go - 9/11 SIMPLIFIED - Motive & Opportunity!!!

Buut then Rumsfeld got $4 BILLION to " Get the WH Message out

to the Internet - Code for - Hiring PR Firms who -

Contract out for Disinfo Agents to POO POO -

9/11 TRUTH Threads - just like this !!!!

Oh yea, Add in the Megaphonies too !!!!

Daniel


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The world trade center underwent a " digital cable renovation" in the 10 days prior to the "attacks" of 911.

The evidence of this is in the THOUSANDS of surviving WTC tower workers who recall this cable upgrade being undertaken, and the noise and inconvienience the operation caused. Official notices of electrical shutdowns and computer network interuption were circulated amongst the financial firms affected.
During this cable work, the "cable installers" had access to key central support cilumns, the ones that held the weight of the building up.

If you want to know who destroyed the WTC, IDENTIFY THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT DID THE "CABLE UPGRADE". YOU CAN'T, NO ONE HS YET.
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The only real reason why people believed that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job is because they wanted to believe it was an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence and they wanted the government to be complicit in it because they are biased against the government, most especially those who despise and loath the Bush administration already.

The 9/11 truthers are comfortable with the facts the 9/11 attacks were an inside job so declared by conspiracy theorists with historic or concurrent bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are complacent with the facts 9/11 attacks were an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence other than just various hearsay, uninformed opinions, questionable proposals and theories brought up by others with historical bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are cowards who bashed or bullied rational-minded people and credible experts who thought there's no way in the world that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and recognized that it is impossible to get a large number of people within the government who coordinated an "inside job" on a massive scale.

The 9/11 truthers are convicted they are right and everyone else are wrong: the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and the government/Bush administration were behind this. They will intimidate, bully and terrorize people to buy their flimsy arguments in order to justify their positions and hatred without question.

The 9/11 truthers are colluding with insane-minded, irrational or violent peoples or groups who hate the US government and the Bush administration that they are willing to resort to violence and intimidation just to legitimize their arguments, brand everyone who supported the US gov't/Bush administration as war criminals, polarize and divide the nation with hate and intolerance, leading to an unnecessary civil war and forcing the government to impose draconian or martial law upon everyone.

So, thank you for polarizing and dividing the USA, 9/11 truthers!
hf hiding
 Quoting: God's Shadow

What is this General's agenda then. 1 min vid....
[link to www.youtube.com]
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For all you non-believers that think 911 wasn't an inside job go to needtoknow.50megs.com + check out the 2 911 imfo pages

John
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It is amazing how fast the psy-opérs jumped on this thread.
Like the preditors they are.
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It is amazing how fast the psy-opérs jumped on this thread.
Like the preditors they are.
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Yeah, but they won't touch what I said about the cable upgraders. Probably because they already know what I know, that these "cable installers ", who have thus far remained unidentified, wired the ENTIRE WTC COMPLEX with shaped cutting and deflection charges,they were demolition experts from some other country, Israel being the primary suspect since the media or internet has no bead on who these "contractors" were.

COme on CIA man, tell me a demolition isn't what it is.
I have piles of evidence, all of it on the internet, from dozens of eyewitnesses ,to photographic evidence.
There is no evidence that a global collpase of the twin towers or building 7 could have occured without help, and a AG acceleration requires vertical support be removed.

The twin towers were demolished in a manner to make it appear the damage inititated the collapses, from the point of damage first, downward in increments of 30 ft on the inside core supports. This is what caused the outer columns to bend inward and fail in rapid succession from the top down, the falling mass of the internal core supports pulled inward through the trusses and floors.

This scenario is supported by ALL OF THE ACTUAL INFORMATION.
The steel with evidence of demolition was shipped to China, so the only evidence we have is HIGH RESOLUTION DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY showing extensive evidence of controlled demolition practices.
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bump for truth
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Until the paid traitors answer to what I said above, they're just blowing hot air.
The cable installers were real, there are literally thousands of witnesses to thier presence, and they've NEVER been ideintified or EVEN DISCUSSED by proponents of the official conspiracy theory.They are the supporters of the most outrageous conspiracy theory of all time, that 19 arabs stood down our national defenses and defied all the laws of physics to score a huge hit.
BULLSHIT, it's totally assinine to believe such rediculous tripe.
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Paid traitors, indeed. There will come a day when all will be called to answer for their defense of this evil. The time has passed when the debunkers and shills can claim ignorance. From the mountains of unanswered questions revolving around 9/11 and yet none arouse the most minute suspision or desire for further investigation into the matter. As a matter of fact, it seems like their life motive is to immediately log onto the internet and try to delude as many people as possible. When you start defending the evil there will come a day when you are judged too. We are desecrating the memories of WTC victims and the continuing massacre of military personnel and innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan... it is these zombies who defend the true monsters who make a mockery of what it is to be an American. There was a time in our history when being a patriot meant questioning your government and realizing that the greatest threat to freedom lay with the central government. Now, most have been socialized to worship government and accept whatever propaganda and lies they shovel forth, no matter how irrational as long as they can lead a life of luxury.

Shills and debunkers... we remember who you are. Your side is losing ground at an exponential rate. There will come a day when you will answer for your traitorous deeds.
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Paid traitors, indeed. There will come a day when all will be called to answer for their defense of this evil. The time has passed when the debunkers and shills can claim ignorance. From the mountains of unanswered questions revolving around 9/11 and yet none arouse the most minute suspision or desire for further investigation into the matter. As a matter of fact, it seems like their life motive is to immediately log onto the internet and try to delude as many people as possible. When you start defending the evil there will come a day when you are judged too. We are desecrating the memories of WTC victims and the continuing massacre of military personnel and innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan... it is these zombies who defend the true monsters who make a mockery of what it is to be an American. There was a time in our history when being a patriot meant questioning your government and realizing that the greatest threat to freedom lay with the central government. Now, most have been socialized to worship government and accept whatever propaganda and lies they shovel forth, no matter how irrational as long as they can lead a life of luxury.

Shills and debunkers... we remember who you are. Your side is losing ground at an exponential rate. There will come a day when you will answer for your traitorous deeds.
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You betcha, they're, going down. We, will live to see it happen.............
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Very nice article Terrier, looks like you've disturbed the sheople/shills/trolls once again! Keep it up.

Also, how do you recruit americans to go on with such a horrible plot. If your director was asking you to co-operate to destroy a building wouldn't you tell anyone about it? Don't you think dozens would say 'no' before he finds one person interested in his evil plan and that person could change their mind during the months preparing for the big event. Hard to find evil like-minded people. There are lot more good people than evil ones capable of committing a crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203844


By studying history we can find that the US Gov carrying out the 9/11 attacks is more the rule than the exception.

Studying the history of False Flag Terrorism is where 203844 should expends some effort before drawing conclusions.





9/11 Was An Inside Job,
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The only real reason why people believed that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job is because they wanted to believe it was an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence and they wanted the government to be complicit in it because they are biased against the government, most especially those who despise and loath the Bush administration already.

The 9/11 truthers are comfortable with the facts the 9/11 attacks were an inside job so declared by conspiracy theorists with historic or concurrent bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are complacent with the facts 9/11 attacks were an inside job without a single shred of proven evidence other than just various hearsay, uninformed opinions, questionable proposals and theories brought up by others with historical bias against the US government.

The 9/11 truthers are cowards who bashed or bullied rational-minded people and credible experts who thought there's no way in the world that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and recognized that it is impossible to get a large number of people within the government who coordinated an "inside job" on a massive scale.

The 9/11 truthers are convicted they are right and everyone else are wrong: the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and the government/Bush administration were behind this. They will intimidate, bully and terrorize people to buy their flimsy arguments in order to justify their positions and hatred without question.

The 9/11 truthers are colluding with insane-minded, irrational or violent peoples or groups who hate the US government and the Bush administration that they are willing to resort to violence and intimidation just to legitimize their arguments, brand everyone who supported the US gov't/Bush administration as war criminals, polarize and divide the nation with hate and intolerance, leading to an unnecessary civil war and forcing the government to impose draconian or martial law upon everyone.

So, thank you for polarizing and dividing the USA, 9/11 truthers!
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You raise some good issues GS, now to expand think about who would want this division and what they might want to achieve by creating it.
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Not speaking for anyone else here but I learned to distrust the government way before Dubya took office. I saw a UFO when I was a kid which set me on a course of studying such things and always wondered why the government kept things secret. So, being born in 1972, I was pretty much too young to think one way or another of Nixon, Ford and Carter... but Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush Jr.... I think they are all scumbags. I'm making a prediction right now... I'll probably dislike the next president as well (unless somehow Ron Paul wins the election). My thoughts on 9/11 have nothing at all to do with my thoughts on George W.... I've just looked at the evidence and the fact that governments throughout history have done this. When you really look at all of the evidence it's almost impossible to believe that the government isn't lying to us and covering things up. That's why I don't think you debunkers are ordinary people... hanging out on GLP any length of time you've been exposed to countless pieces of evidence of strange things that would make the average person question the official governmental account. But not you... every single time you trot out the same tired old disinfo.
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