FUCK BITCOINS!!!!!! This is Bullshit!!!

And if you look there are plenty of stories of people in venezuala and argentina etc using it. But perhaps you forget who is providing you with news and why you may not see these stories unless you search for them.

No doubt the user numbers are much lower than they could be given the current seemingly unlredictable price fluctuations. Its early days... how long did it take for frn's to be unanimously used?

Those black chains are still using the "backbones", therefore secure NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell me, will the backbones you speak of always necessarily be required? This is just another opportunity in disguise for those brave enough to create something new. Think cloud technology and wireless... these are relatively new ideas that have not reached their full potential... a system can surely be built where the reliance is not on small number of parties but on every user... this is what the bitcoin ecosystem is, and it may not have reached maturity as yet but it is clearly heading there at rapid pace. this is the beauty of the market and the harnessing of both greed and good intentions as one tool.. there is benefit to the individuals who create it, and benefits to everyone else too.

You keep bringing up the future to hold your argument together, but we are in the "NOW"...not in some far off place where you think your going to outsmart the "NWO" and come with some INTERNET without there involvement.

it's ether hard assets or your playing Russian roulette. and thats just the truth of the matter.

lol wireless, really? so you guys are now going to put up your own wireless tower's, and your also going to launch some satellites?


you have some big Ideas, let me tell you.......

Lol do you think it is a coincidence that nwo is an anagram of now. You are defending what you perceive as being your enemy by not looking to the future and daring to dream. The nwo will outwit themselves in a similar manner, they will bring their own destruction.

To outwit the nwo (the now) out running time (the now) is required. This means looking to the future and anticipating the flow of events. Time and the now does not stand still, it is fluid and everchanging and matches on. where will it go? Death and destruction for all or something better? That is for us to decide through our actions. So we can perpetuate our insistance on staying in the now in which case nwo always win, or we can realise what is going on and overtake them.

If you want to win you have to get ahead of them. You appear to be buying whatever idea they sell you and therefoee you are behind them and subservient.

It is v hard to free slaves who do not realise they are slaves. And i dont mean slaves to government alone, but to ideas and emotions.. like fear! Your nwo boogie man is just that. Yes they exist.. no they are not all powerful. They just think they are

Perhaps its not a big idea but the final manifestation of a simple idea, that of decentralisation.

Regardless, where would we be without big ideas. Are you against trying to break free? Are you against revolutuonary ideas?

You seem to want to return to a time that no longer exists. Time is moving forward not backward.

Perhaps wireless towers etc are not required.. perhaps there are other means yet to be discovered. You can embrace the unknown or you can be scared of it (fear based mindset therefore dictates your decisions, which cannot be perfect if fear based!)

I dont see anything wrong with great aspirations anyway.

Every obstacle you can think of is just another opportunity for someone. And in fact thinking of these obstacles is very helpful.. it is identifying a need fpr the market to meet, which it will and always does.

NO NO!!!!!... now your "digressing".

what is your plan for a decentralized net, that's the answer i want from you and nothing els.....

unless you have an answer for me, any further argument is null and void.


i don't want to hear about my usage of word's, my spelling, or fucking anagrams.


what is your plan for a decentralized net, answer the question, or your useless.....

So thank you for playing devils advocate. Someone has to play this role. Usually that player ends up in the lake of fire though (humiliation) as they are proven wrong often due to the desire of their opponent to overcome them if nothing else.

This is how you serve the system/market even when younthink you dont. From the friction of argument new ideas are born.

Dude, you gotta stop smoking W/E your smoking

I dont see how the detail matters. It is the function of the market to do this. Steps have clearly been taken towards it.. and effectively the market incentivises the creation by providing a bounty. This is what the market has always done and is how innovation has always been driven. I do not need to have all the answers in order to identify the likely direction of events.

I am not a tech expert, if i were i would have built it already. but the fact the idea exists to overcome a problem means it is likely the market will create it.

Im sure people had this debate about the idea of the telephone or electricty or computers.. it is age old. Devils advocates played their roles in creating them too.

Lol you see how this conversation has descended...

You imply im mad, on drugs etc. Or get angry with my viewpoint.

Are these not the reactions of those losing an argument? Are we already at the stage where you ridicule me? Can we fight so i can win now?

Ultimately what im sayi g is certainly possible. In light of the fact that matter itself is actually only high frequency waves there will at somepoint be discovered the solution i speak of. Cables and wireless towers will be viewed as archaic.

I have friends holding MILLIONS in USD of Bitcoin from when it was worth pennies.

It is a full time job an daily battle trying to convert Bitcoin to cash the market is super small and full of scammers.

your answers are hollow, and filled without substance, you keep looking to the "far off" future for some BS........

what Am I to think of you?

what respect Am I to have with someone who can't see the obvious?...


Do you need to be an expert to have common sense, Oh i forgot you need to be born with it......

Even without that leap, cloud technology is all im saying. Id every user plays a part in securing the network, every user can also play a part in what we are talking about. It just takes one bright idea from nowhere, and from tiny seeds might oaks are grown becoming the new backbone of communication and society.

Yup full time job kind of like managing a portfolio of penny stocks...

Day trader kind of stress... don't do it if you don't get it, you will get scammed

Thankfully i dont require your respect. You view my answers as hollow, which they are because they highlight possibility. Voids in the market are always filled eventually. It is not necessarily my role to fill it.. the market has many players better qualified. Perhaps out of self interest they are not ready to share it yet. And thats fine by me.

You dont view possibility as substance i get that, but in reality possibilities are just that. And they return the best roi too.

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you couldn't even come close to whats in my head, but maybe that's why I can see the world for what it is , and not for what i wish it to be.......


It's fun to hear someone spout what comes out your mouth, to think your actually going to outsmart the elites. they have the best and brightest in there rank "by crook or hook".

you actually think they haven't thought about this themselves and how to keep it from happening.


in a world this much brainwashed, you think you have a chance against these people. that's the big joke. your big "Ideas" aren't going anywhere.....

and your to blind to see it.....

Anyway, using their backbones isnt necessarily a problem. To shut down this operation means shutting down their own. You think they want to harm their own lifestyles? The math secures it that is the point... just because they can see it doesnt mean they can control or manipulate it.

Using one's enemies tools against them has always been a powerful way for minority forces to take on majority forces. Guerilla warfare.

Simply put though i think they want this too. Those elites that are against us only do so because they share your fear based mindset. If they can be shown or made to feel there is nothing to fear, perhaps they are more likely to help the masses rather than hinder.

After all they fear the same as you... change, the unknown, loss of lifestyle and security. You see why i say you are one of them, just lower level? Tell me, of you were a super rich elite what would you do? You would take steps to protect your wealth just as they have done. And many would view you as evil.

The time is coming when those with fear based mindsets will no longer be at the top in control. This is the sepqrating of the wheat from the chaff.the chaff in this imstance being the fear based mindset. This generation is dying off. Milleniald do not think this way and are the leaders of tomorrow, not now (nwo). They have been blessed with such lifestyle that their belief systems are based on abundance and trust, and consequently thebway things are dome will naturally change once thebwealthbis in their hands.

Of course they have considered it. they have probably concluded they cant beat it, so they must co-opt it. Hence the timing of the better system being realeased would need to be perfect, just when theyve stuck most of their eggs in this basket they can be moved to another and then theyve lost.

.. or they came up with it in the first place to further control, only to realise ot can become its own umstoppabke entity out of their control. Baddies always dies at their own hands in one way or another through incorrect decisions die tontwisted mind.

Is the Fed l looking to acquire bitcoin and turn it into an official currency along side the dollar?

To clarify btw before the vested interest accusations.. my profit from bitcoins to date? Zero.

Lol then I'm of them of a lesser degree?.

That's fine, i rather be like one of them, then be one of you...

at least they have a plan, while you seem to live in "LA LA LAND".

Likely.. but they will be competing with.. evry other institution amd individual in the market. And if too much is bought in one go... huge price spike.

Even more likely is that they have their own version too. No doubt several altcoins are theirs, and other banks also likely own/created altcoins. And there seems little benefit to them in disclosing this at this stage.. all likely top secret.

Just put yourself in their shoes!

So if you are happy being them then it is clear you are that which you decry. I say you are one of them in a loose sense in that you share similar mindsets.

Given you are that which you decry then, is it likely im in la la land or you are? :) current events suggest it is you who is being left behind no? I dont like leaving people behind, hence i have bothered to have this conversation.