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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74959096 United States 05/27/2017 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not interested in jumping on a bandwagon created by the CIA.. Quoting: Waffles ™ I'll stick with tangible time tested investments like precious metals,,virtual super mario tokens is just as bad as FIAT Federal Reserve notes backed by nothing and worthless as real investments.. just a digital Ponzi scheme..if i want to gamble i'll go down to my local casino.. :scoobyd00: So what are you doing here besides trashing up this thread? ...don't answer that, just go away. |
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Ravenage User ID: 73435446 United States 05/27/2017 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not interested in jumping on a bandwagon created by the CIA.. Quoting: Waffles ™ I'll stick with tangible time tested investments like precious metals,,virtual super mario tokens is just as bad as FIAT Federal Reserve notes backed by nothing and worthless as real investments.. just a digital Ponzi scheme..if i want to gamble i'll go down to my local casino.. That's all 100% understandable. However... ...if you've invested in the time tested tangibles (PM's and various other commodities...as many as a person can think to cover as best they can) it isn't going to hurt to test the waters by dipping a toe. ^^^This is the very reason the cryptos have piqued my curiosity. "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. ... Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield — it begins with our minds, our wills, and our souls... Americans, Poles, and the nations of Europe value individual freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to counter forces, whether they come from inside or out, from the South or the East, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are. I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization." ~President Donald J Trump "...sometimes, you have to be a high-riding bitch to survive. Sometimes, being a bitch is all a woman has to hang onto." ~Vera Donovan "Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man-and give some back." ~Al Swearengen "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." ~Mattis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73208547 United States 05/27/2017 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are both built for mobile gaming which isn't going anywhere anytime soon. [link to gamecredits.com (secure)] [link to mobilego.io (secure)] GAME was up 10x until the recent pop on cryptos. Everything will come back. Might be a good time to get in. They have the Storefront launching end of June / early July and are starting to partner with eSports and others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74777976 United States 05/27/2017 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP so glad you started the thread. Seems good to have both online and hard wallets such as treznor. If I have more than one wallet can I easily move coins around my different wallets? If so, how? IF i buy X coins in UK and then won't to sell and collect cash in the US how does that work? I have seen people recommend decred (sp) spinoff by people involved in bitcoin. have you heard of it and thoughts? |
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artMan User ID: 74505179 Sweden 05/27/2017 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to be aware that there are problems on the BTC horizon. The system only handles some 7 transactions per second, which is way to little. The way to make it work, is to raise the transaction costs constantly to a level where people simply refrain from doing transactions. There are improvements on the way, but according to the design of BTC, 95% of the network needs to agree on an improvement for it to take hold. This has proven to be impossible on BTC and there is a stalemate since 2 years. Without this improvement, the fees are exploding with 1200% per year. We can possibly see $10 transaction-fees within a year. Last news couple of days ago, is that they will try to do a coup and change BTC even without the 95% support. This will require a hard fork, and we could possibly end up with two parallel bitcoin networks. BTC might overcome these problems, but there are other coins that already are way passed these issues. Also, BTC uses electricity for several millions of dollars each day, just to crunch numbers, which is not really necessary. There are other chains that do not require this enormous amount of electricity. Because of this, BTC has gone from being 85% of the cryptocurrency space to 50% in a couple of months. |
truthseeker314 User ID: 72549845 United States 05/27/2017 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread. Will definitely follow. I have been stacking BTC for the last year. Recently interested in DGB and SIA coins. Tron looks interesting too as it can pay interest if you have 10k coins. I hope Trinity chimes in. truthseeker314 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74976684 Morocco 05/27/2017 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DON'T BUY ANY CRYPTO IT'S ALL A PONZI SCHEME YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY DON'T DO IT!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74013093 ;) those jumping in with little knowledge will lose. OP looks like he has a couple more brain cells than you though as he's stated a price you could hop on the train to $4500, and quite possibly pass $10k this year. Just search exactly who's making it all legal now. Hard fork looks likely, just keep bitcoin and your new freebee coin, then you won't lose... As seen with ETH piece of shit coin, ETH + ETC price = ETH price before fork. Hint: Stratis will beat down Ethereum this year and I see potential to be more expensive than actual bitcoin itself with that one. Look into it for sure. Anything with new tech is worth a punt, the old coin look tired... Coins... even BBC is calling it digital assets, old habits... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72031360 United States 05/27/2017 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am of of the many who didn't buy Bitcoins despite becoming aware of them pretty early on, but I am looking to get more knowledgeable and get in, because I still see a huge upside potential. Quoting: Psych I will allocate 10K to cryptocurrency, and will do so publicly, for everyone to follow along (or build upon). It will be a win, or an epic and public failure. I am doing this for a couple of reasons: • A rising tide lifts all boats. • Share research and progress with anyone interested in Bitcoin and how to get started. • Possible GLP collaboration. (share knowledge/best practices) • Your entertainment. (if I fail) ---------------------------------------- This post will be updated continuously as research progresses, my investments, etc. Ongoing Research First and foremost... Profit potential: A few of the reasons why I didn't buy Bitcoin yet is because it is uncharted territory and it is hard to tell where this can go. There was hardly any technical or fundamental analysis you could apply, and when I tried it a long time ago, it was not user friendly at all, and still isn't actually. It is still difficult telling where this will go, but I believe that this technology will become mainstream when it becomes more user friendly. The underlying benefits of Bitcoin are clear to us on GLP (and criminals), but in the end, whether people will adopt it will boil down to convenience (and regulation). Below a chart on technology becoming mainstream and fully adopted. What this tells me, is that despite the price of Bitcoin today, there is still a huge upside potential. :scurve: I am looking to step in after a retraction and I will expand on strategy more later on, but I've put together a basic table which allowed me to play with a few variables and plot scenarios. Below a screenshot of an easy to read configuration: This scenario takes into account a few premises: • The investment is not counted as profit. • The first 10K is considered break even. • No compounding • It's a long term play. Stating the obvious: Buying more coins will increase your profit before Bitcoin runs out of steam. :pbroi: As I am in the process of getting knowledgeable, I have currently collected the following: Security Online/Hot Wallet: blockchain.info The risk with online wallets is that you are not the only user of your private key. They can freeze you out of your own funds. Use them for small stuff but not for large investments. Offline/Cold Wallet: A USB stick with MultiBit and Bitlocker Zipped and encrypted in multiple places, like a safe. Additional security: Hardware dedicated to cryptocurrency: Ledger Nano TREZOR KeepKey Even more security: [link to tails.boum.org (secure)] USB with bootable OS which will connect through TOR News & Information: List of cryptocurrencies, ranked: Market Cap: [link to coinmarketcap.com (secure)] Community: Slack? Coins to assess/buy: (Looking for others besides Bitcoin) Bitcoin Ethereum? Ripple? ??? Transactions: Buy: (Looking for sites with best rates and reputation) Altcoin Trader? Bittylicious? Localbitcoins? Sell: (Looking for sites to sell at best rates) Buy gold with Bitcoin and sell gold? Trade Bitcoin on Forex: Another good way to trade Bitcoin is the Forex market. This subject will be expanded on at a later point in time. Strategy: I will approach Bitcoin by having actual Bitcoins in a cold wallet (long term) and by trading Bitcoins using my Forex account (short term). I will be looking to invest after a retracement or where the next base forms. ---------------------------------------- Please feel free to share your favorite exchanges, sites, tools, strategies and best practices, or bad experiences and fraud to help your fellow man. I will improve the content through my research and with the feedback provided. ---------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Trade at your own risk. been following for 5 years, since it ws 52. i finally got in at 1200. i believe in the tech. while its not the ground floor right now, it is certainly not too late. long term play, load and hold. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72031360 United States 05/27/2017 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to be aware that there are problems on the BTC horizon. Quoting: artMan The system only handles some 7 transactions per second, which is way to little. The way to make it work, is to raise the transaction costs constantly to a level where people simply refrain from doing transactions. There are improvements on the way, but according to the design of BTC, 95% of the network needs to agree on an improvement for it to take hold. This has proven to be impossible on BTC and there is a stalemate since 2 years. Without this improvement, the fees are exploding with 1200% per year. We can possibly see $10 transaction-fees within a year. Last news couple of days ago, is that they will try to do a coup and change BTC even without the 95% support. This will require a hard fork, and we could possibly end up with two parallel bitcoin networks. BTC might overcome these problems, but there are other coins that already are way passed these issues. Also, BTC uses electricity for several millions of dollars each day, just to crunch numbers, which is not really necessary. There are other chains that do not require this enormous amount of electricity. Because of this, BTC has gone from being 85% of the cryptocurrency space to 50% in a couple of months. there was an agreement last week, hopefully will solve these problems |
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TGus User ID: 74764022 United States 05/27/2017 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The powers-that-be could have taken Bitcoin and its cousins down anytime they wanted to. Don't think cryptocurrencies are safe from them. The fact that they allow it, and haven't even tried to artificially supress it, indicates to me that cryptocurrencies somehow fit into their plan to fleece us. Also, don't be so sure that the internet will always be there at all or in it's current form. |
Amy User ID: 74976789 South Korea 05/27/2017 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is great article on bitcoins (BTC) for preference. I think it's nice to try some new monetary system. I'm hoping to get some bitcoins for... my virtual treasure chest :) it feels like I'm going to be one of the coin miners. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62899776 Canada 05/27/2017 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | post the exact moment when you buy/sell...I'll follow with a small amount. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74967015 I will. I will provide complete transparency. In addition to that, we need to see your addresses so we can check them against the blockchain/s and verify x went to y from z. IE: Your transactions need to be verified or you could just randomly pick some crypto address and say you deposited x coins in it. So for transparency, you need to show: A. X amount. B. Y to address. C. Z from address. D. datetime It'd be best if you did this BEFORE the transfer occurred, otherwise, again, there is no transparency. Also, obviously, the to address (deposit) shouldn't change if you are using the same wallets - which you should be doing since you are talking about transparency. Happy coining. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74918940 Belgium 05/27/2017 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not interested in jumping on a bandwagon created by the CIA.. Quoting: Waffles ™ I'll stick with tangible time tested investments like precious metals,,virtual super mario tokens is just as bad as FIAT Federal Reserve notes backed by nothing and worthless as real investments.. just a digital Ponzi scheme..if i want to gamble i'll go down to my local casino.. :scoobyd00: Who else has pity on that person? You need to be aware that there are problems on the BTC horizon. Quoting: artMan The system only handles some 7 transactions per second, which is way to little. The way to make it work, is to raise the transaction costs constantly to a level where people simply refrain from doing transactions. There are improvements on the way, but according to the design of BTC, 95% of the network needs to agree on an improvement for it to take hold. This has proven to be impossible on BTC and there is a stalemate since 2 years. Without this improvement, the fees are exploding with 1200% per year. We can possibly see $10 transaction-fees within a year. Last news couple of days ago, is that they will try to do a coup and change BTC even without the 95% support. This will require a hard fork, and we could possibly end up with two parallel bitcoin networks. BTC might overcome these problems, but there are other coins that already are way passed these issues. Also, BTC uses electricity for several millions of dollars each day, just to crunch numbers, which is not really necessary. There are other chains that do not require this enormous amount of electricity. Because of this, BTC has gone from being 85% of the cryptocurrency space to 50% in a couple of months. [link to www.weusecoins.com (secure)] BTW, I like your project, OP! I've seen you asking a lot of Bitcoin related questions lately. Now I know why. ;) I will be following this thread. I'm into day and (mostly) swing trading cryptos. |
TheGasMan II User ID: 71648857 United States 05/27/2017 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The powers-that-be could have taken Bitcoin and its cousins down anytime they wanted to. Don't think cryptocurrencies are safe from them. Quoting: TGus 74764022 The fact that they allow it, and haven't even tried to artificially supress it, indicates to me that cryptocurrencies somehow fit into their plan to fleece us. Also, don't be so sure that the internet will always be there at all or in it's current form. This is my primary concern. What happens if the net goes dark or ceases to exist? What plans are there, if any, for cashing out? "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
Xenophobe User ID: 53630625 United States 05/27/2017 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own some Game Credits (GAME) and also it's sister coin MobileGo which just had a huge ico (raised 50+ million) but isn't on exchanges yet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73208547 They are both built for mobile gaming which isn't going anywhere anytime soon. [link to gamecredits.com (secure)] [link to mobilego.io (secure)] GAME was up 10x until the recent pop on cryptos. Everything will come back. Might be a good time to get in. They have the Storefront launching end of June / early July and are starting to partner with eSports and others. Now THIS is interesting. Didn't know about it, thanks! It's a bug hunt |
Xenophobe User ID: 53630625 United States 05/27/2017 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The powers-that-be could have taken Bitcoin and its cousins down anytime they wanted to. Don't think cryptocurrencies are safe from them. Quoting: TGus 74764022 The fact that they allow it, and haven't even tried to artificially supress it, indicates to me that cryptocurrencies somehow fit into their plan to fleece us. Also, don't be so sure that the internet will always be there at all or in it's current form. This is my primary concern. What happens if the net goes dark or ceases to exist? What plans are there, if any, for cashing out? How will you liquidate your 401k? Same answer. It's a bug hunt |
Xenophobe User ID: 53630625 United States 05/27/2017 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | post the exact moment when you buy/sell...I'll follow with a small amount. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74967015 I will. I will provide complete transparency. In addition to that, we need to see your addresses so we can check them against the blockchain/s and verify x went to y from z. IE: Your transactions need to be verified or you could just randomly pick some crypto address and say you deposited x coins in it. So for transparency, you need to show: A. X amount. B. Y to address. C. Z from address. D. datetime It'd be best if you did this BEFORE the transfer occurred, otherwise, again, there is no transparency. Also, obviously, the to address (deposit) shouldn't change if you are using the same wallets - which you should be doing since you are talking about transparency. Happy coining. Who the hell are you? OP is performing a financial science experiment for everyone to see. Nobody asked you to be the referee. It's a bug hunt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74918940 Belgium 05/27/2017 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The powers-that-be could have taken Bitcoin and its cousins down anytime they wanted to. Don't think cryptocurrencies are safe from them. Quoting: TGus 74764022 The fact that they allow it, and haven't even tried to artificially supress it, indicates to me that cryptocurrencies somehow fit into their plan to fleece us. Also, don't be so sure that the internet will always be there at all or in it's current form. This is my primary concern. What happens if the net goes dark or ceases to exist? What plans are there, if any, for cashing out? If that happens, Bitcoin or your fiat Illuminati money will be the last thing on your mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73973836 United States 05/27/2017 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in with btc, eth & xrp. Will follow this with others and not waste time reading or responding to poo-poo'ers. To each his own. OP, have you considered a cost averaging method to invest. i.e., "x" amount purchased for every "x" amount up or down? It takes discipline b/c buying sharp declines requires balls of steel, but maybe better if you stick to the long term plan. |
Xenophobe User ID: 53630625 United States 05/27/2017 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to be aware that there are problems on the BTC horizon. Quoting: artMan The system only handles some 7 transactions per second, which is way to little. The way to make it work, is to raise the transaction costs constantly to a level where people simply refrain from doing transactions. There are improvements on the way, but according to the design of BTC, 95% of the network needs to agree on an improvement for it to take hold. This has proven to be impossible on BTC and there is a stalemate since 2 years. Without this improvement, the fees are exploding with 1200% per year. We can possibly see $10 transaction-fees within a year. Last news couple of days ago, is that they will try to do a coup and change BTC even without the 95% support. This will require a hard fork, and we could possibly end up with two parallel bitcoin networks. BTC might overcome these problems, but there are other coins that already are way passed these issues. Also, BTC uses electricity for several millions of dollars each day, just to crunch numbers, which is not really necessary. There are other chains that do not require this enormous amount of electricity. Because of this, BTC has gone from being 85% of the cryptocurrency space to 50% in a couple of months. Fascinating. Thanks for this. It's a bug hunt |