Gripe of the day: EV "price per KW figures" and how they come up with them. COMPLETELY MISLEADING | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73494314 United States 05/30/2017 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gripe of the day: EV "price per KW figures" and how they come up with them. COMPLETELY MISLEADING But there wont be any gas or diesel fuel very soon. “Everyone needs to quit turning their nose up at the apocalypse and thinking they'll escape it somehow” This may be the most important article you ever read. The OIL AGE IS ENDING. Not in one hundred years, not fifty but IN 5 YEARS! [link to www.feasta.org] Oil can only be useful as an energy source if the energy contained in the product (ie: transport fuel) is greater than the energy required to extract, refine and deliver the fuel to the end user. |
TinfoilHatMan (OP) User ID: 1607517 United States 05/31/2017 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Gripe of the day: EV "price per KW figures" and how they come up with them. COMPLETELY MISLEADING Oil can only be useful as an energy source if the energy contained in the product (ie: transport fuel) is greater than the energy required to extract, refine and deliver the fuel to the end user. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73494314 Nonsense. We can waste ten gallons of oil to produce one gallon of gasoline if we want to. Oil is free. No money has to exchange hands for a well to acquire it. If we can put pumped oil back to work extracting and processing more oil, then it doesn't matter how inefficient, wasteful or process intensive it is to generate useful energy. It's just simply inefficient and wasteful. Now, I'm not advocating this type of inefficient use of hydrocarbon based fuel, I'm just pointing out that there isn't any real limit to how wasteful we can be and still yield a gasoline or diesel based fuel. The crux of the problem is when the actual COST of processing exceeds a price people can afford for the finished product. Cost, however, are derived from human labor and external resources (electricity, etc). As modernization of these processes evolve and automation continues to advance, we'll likely see the increased costs of processing countered with the reduction of actual costs with these types of advancements. Remember, necessity is the mother of innovation. I'm very confident as costs become crippling to consumers, innovation will provide new and less expensive solutions. But to my point, electric cards are a square peg in a round hole. We're trying to force a solution for a problem hat doesn't yet exist and the only way to do it is to lie about the solution to sell it. People don't need it and the only way they'll buy it is if it's a novelty or they're convinced they can save money. The latter is a flat out lie however. |