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15 wage hike for the working poor

 
SocialistCapitalist
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15 wage hike for the working poor
Hey, how come the fear propaganda about a wage hike didnt create poverty and misery for hundred of thousands losing their working wage poverty jobs?

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06/01/2017 11:34 AM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
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06/01/2017 11:35 AM
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There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
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It makes "christian" women feel good when they can buy stuff.
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06/01/2017 11:40 AM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The FIRST thing that goes up when minimum wage goes up, is RENT!
That's why it is a net ZERO ASSHOLES!
Landlords raise the rent because people can pay more!
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06/01/2017 11:43 AM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
1. You're an idiot
2. The article is from 2014. Here is one from 2016: [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]
3. They don't have 15 yet. It's still around 11 something
4. Thanks to President Trump, the labor market is getting tighter. This will naturally, and properly, raise wages due to competition. Unless we let in a bunch of illegals, which will destroy the supply and demand.

Then we have this:
[link to www.politifact.com]

Ergo, back to point 1. You're an idiot.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
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Slave wage is NOT our future! There has always been plenty of jobs for 1st world economies, we don't need slave wage jobs, get rid of them greedy exploiting tards.

We need fair pay, if you wouldnt work at 9$ an hour yourself then shut your mouth.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The FIRST thing that goes up when minimum wage goes up, is RENT!
That's why it is a net ZERO ASSHOLES!
Landlords raise the rent because people can pay more!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73238859


Landlords do not raise rent because people can pay more... they raise rent because too many renters and too few appartments available idiot.

So guess what happens when those people can buy a cheap home... right, demand for rent lowers idiot.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
OP you lack all understanding of economics
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
OP you lack all understanding of economics
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No you do. Your jobs are exported to china yet you still have jobs. Automation and robotics have always killed jobs yet people still work.
Same for higher wage, some statistical jobs can disappear yet people will still be working.

You complain about wage hike for the working poor which doesnt destroy the economy, while the economy was destroyed in 2008 by some bankers yet you never talk about it nor focus on those evil greedy bastards that can destroy an economy.

You prefer to focus on the working poor... shame on you!
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
A higher wage is a nice little idea, but won't work in a corporate capitalism system.

The corporations simply eliminate more jobs, and raise the price of products to avoid any loss to the profit margin.

So In turn, you are left without a job, and a hamburger would then cost 10 dollars instead of five at McDonald's.

Corporate capitalism is destroying this nation by stifling free market competition.

Minimum wage has nothing to do with our problems.
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06/01/2017 12:59 PM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
A higher wage is a nice little idea, but won't work in a corporate capitalism system.

The corporations simply eliminate more jobs, and raise the price of products to avoid any loss to the profit margin.

So In turn, you are left without a job, and a hamburger would then cost 10 dollars instead of five at McDonald's.

Corporate capitalism is destroying this nation by stifling free market competition.

Minimum wage has nothing to do with our problems.
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The leftist policies created the "working poor" but they can't see it.

Example: Rent prices
The left creates a low supply of housing by making it very hard and expensive to make new housing. Therefore demand goes up. When demand exceeds the supply the cost soars. The obvious solution is to get more housing built. But not the left. They want to scream about retarded shit and then fuck with supply and demand by handing out vouches, and rent control, and 15 wage. This in turn, causes the problem to get even worse.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
To repair our economy we have to halt all imports of everything.

Tax large corporations out of existence here in the us.

Charge little to no tax on mom and pop compsnies, while deregulating nearly everything.

Any company that grows beyond 10 locations,factories, etc, should then be taxed as a corporation at a deadly rate. This promotes free competition and eliminates monopoly.

It's that, or communism.

Corporate capitalism doesnt work.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
A higher wage is a nice little idea, but won't work in a corporate capitalism system.

The corporations simply eliminate more jobs, and raise the price of products to avoid any loss to the profit margin.

So In turn, you are left without a job, and a hamburger would then cost 10 dollars instead of five at McDonald's.

Corporate capitalism is destroying this nation by stifling free market competition.

Minimum wage has nothing to do with our problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64348178


The leftist policies created the "working poor" but they can't see it.

Example: Rent prices
The left creates a low supply of housing by making it very hard and expensive to make new housing. Therefore demand goes up. When demand exceeds the supply the cost soars. The obvious solution is to get more housing built. But not the left. They want to scream about retarded shit and then fuck with supply and demand by handing out vouches, and rent control, and 15 wage. This in turn, causes the problem to get even worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69778177


Yes, the lefties are as bad as the right wing corporate lovers.

We need a centrist Labour party in america.
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06/01/2017 01:05 PM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73265665

Slave wage is NOT our future! There has always been plenty of jobs for 1st world economies, we don't need slave wage jobs, get rid of them greedy exploiting tards.

We need fair pay, if you wouldnt work at 9$ an hour yourself then shut your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73955960


So, my husband who has 60,000 in student loans from graduating with a bachelor degree gets 16 dollars an hour after he graduated.

While punks like you get 15 without getting loans and a degree!

See the problem?

It's a disaster and it looks good on paper but is my husbands wage going to go up?????
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06/01/2017 01:10 PM
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The FIRST thing that goes up when minimum wage goes up, is RENT!
That's why it is a net ZERO ASSHOLES!
Landlords raise the rent because people can pay more!
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It's already through the roof due to section 8.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73265665

Slave wage is NOT our future! There has always been plenty of jobs for 1st world economies, we don't need slave wage jobs, get rid of them greedy exploiting tards.

We need fair pay, if you wouldnt work at 9$ an hour yourself then shut your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73955960


So, my husband who has 60,000 in student loans from graduating with a bachelor degree gets 16 dollars an hour after he graduated.

While punks like you get 15 without getting loans and a degree!

See the problem?

It's a disaster and it looks good on paper but is my husbands wage going to go up?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72394039


I feel for the poor as I am one of them. I am a union employee who makes 10 An hour. I don't demand a higher wage because the greedy corporate owners of our nation will simply eliminate my job, and prices for basic goods and services will go up. I wouldn't be able to hold onto any of that extra cash because I would have to hand it all over for the higher goods and services that we all require.

The answer does not lay within a higher wage.

The answer pays within taxing large corporations out of exsistence, while promoting small companies. We also have to outlaw imports at the same time.
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06/01/2017 01:16 PM
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"working poor"


wtf, why should anyone that works be poor?

i fucking hate this world sometimes.

vodka5
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
There will be a big impact as time goes on. Companies will automate and eliminate jobs out the ass.

Good going you $15/hr tards. You're killing your own future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73265665

Slave wage is NOT our future! There has always been plenty of jobs for 1st world economies, we don't need slave wage jobs, get rid of them greedy exploiting tards.

We need fair pay, if you wouldnt work at 9$ an hour yourself then shut your mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73955960


So, my husband who has 60,000 in student loans from graduating with a bachelor degree gets 16 dollars an hour after he graduated.

While punks like you get 15 without getting loans and a degree!

See the problem?

It's a disaster and it looks good on paper but is my husbands wage going to go up?????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72394039


Of course it will, people with a bachelor degree and 0 experience start sometimes with low pay but they become highly valuable later on with lots of experience and can easily double their salary.
Minimum wage worker can never double their salary.

What is your husband's bachelor degree?
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
Corporate monopolies who control Congress are the problem. Not minimum wage.

All of the large fast food corporations have driven the privately owned restaurants out of my town because they have more purchasing power, and can ignore regulations and get away with it by their lawyers. Mom and pop can't do that.

These corporate restaurants treat employees like a numbenumber and can do as they please with you.

Mom and pop generally aren't as bad about that because word travels. It's a more personal affair.

Corporations have created unfair monopolies.

Tax them at outrageous amounts, encorencouraging them to shrink back to small chains. This would open the economy up for whole new small chains and mom and pop businesses that can employ people.

Workers in turn have a wider selection of employment choices.

In the fiftys in st louis, my grandfather could quit one factory due to bull shit and go across the street and have another job within the day.

We have to outlaw these corporate hiring agencies as well.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The FIRST thing that goes up when minimum wage goes up, is RENT!
That's why it is a net ZERO ASSHOLES!
Landlords raise the rent because people can pay more!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73238859


heh I bet you'd enjoy $2.05 cents an hour from the early seventies..the problem with opinions like thisis any increase is wrong...you bes not make same as me
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bsflag I live in Washington state and I can personally testify to increased prices to the point of poor people having to choose between things like medical care and groceries. Companies have also let go many people while just making their better employees work that much harder to make up for the loss.

Everything is not fine.
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Section 8 hud housing has to be stopped as well because it has driven rent thru the roof.

I am all for housing the poor unemployed. We should provide these people with fema type trailers to live in until they can afford to rent a home on their own.
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"working poor"


wtf, why should anyone that works be poor?

i fucking hate this world sometimes.

vodka5
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Exactly. A full time worker dedicating his whole life to his employer should not be poor so his employer can create more working poor people and make himself rich with overabundant restaurants made for the middle class who insists on keeping those workers down so they can save 2$ on their prepared and served at the table meal twice a week.

That is greed!

Learn gratitude.
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unsustainable without "interventions" from the corrupt govts
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The thought that a higher minimum wage will work is simply insanity.

The corporate folks who own this nation will never accept lower profits, ever.

Call and write your Congress members to demand they be taxed at extreextremely high rates, and that we ban imports into this country.

They won't be able to move overseas to avoid the taxes, because then they couldn't import and sale their chineese made shit. Lol
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You clean force company owners to be morale. They will roll around in their greed until the day they die. But you can tax them and take all their money.

Then use that money to rebuild our infastructure, and feed the poor.
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"working poor"


wtf, why should anyone that works be poor?

i fucking hate this world sometimes.

vodka5
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Exactly. A full time worker dedicating his whole life to his employer should not be poor so his employer can create more working poor people and make himself rich with overabundant restaurants made for the middle class who insists on keeping those workers down so they can save 2$ on their prepared and served at the table meal twice a week.

That is greed!

Learn gratitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73955960


Seems you dont understand that working at fast food is not the way to make money. I mean, i understood that perfectly 17 years ago.

It sounds like you just like to bitch about other people being better off than you.
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true capitalism doesn't need to be propped up........
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Inflation/deflation is a bitch.
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"working poor"


wtf, why should anyone that works be poor?

i fucking hate this world sometimes.

vodka5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47200636


Exactly. A full time worker dedicating his whole life to his employer should not be poor so his employer can create more working poor people and make himself rich with overabundant restaurants made for the middle class who insists on keeping those workers down so they can save 2$ on their prepared and served at the table meal twice a week.

That is greed!

Learn gratitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73955960


Seems you dont understand that working at fast food is not the way to make money. I mean, i understood that perfectly 17 years ago.

It sounds like you just like to bitch about other people being better off than you.
 Quoting: Roobit


While you are correct, that working fast food is not a way to make a living, you seem to forget that in many areas of our vast nation there is simply nowhere else to work.

The corporations got greedy and shut the factories down in these areas and went to China because our government permitted them to do so by being paid off.

At least a person is trying to work by working fast food, and not collecting government aid.

There is always more to the story as Paul Harvey used to say.
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Re: 15 wage hike for the working poor
The democrats just want to collect taxes for their own personal gain.

The republicans just want to keep corporate and upper class taxes low so they can continue being paid off under the table by those people.

Neither party cares or will fix the issues.

It's not rocket science, it's very simple.

Until we stop voting for democrats and republicans the problems won't be resolved.

Simple.

We need a centrist Labour party that attacks corporations via tariffs and import bans, and high taxes, but supports non corporate business models that can't form monopolies.

You cannot legislate morrality. The Hebrews tried it in the old testament and it didn't work.

If it would have, Christ wouldn't have needed to come.

We need a party that focuses on American Labour. A new Labour movement.

We need massive deregulation for small business, and a deletion of alphabet agencies.

We need states rights

We need term limits

We need media alternatives with big broadcasting monopolies being broken up.

We need freedom from the corporate owners of this nation.





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