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Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?

 
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
science says the sun shoots out photons and solar wind/particles.

science says photons have momentum, able to push solar sail.

if true, solar wind/particles will be pushing by photons and move faster and faster away from the sun.

when solar wind reaching earth, what will happen?

how about iss and its crews?
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Photons do have momentum. It can be demonstrated with a radiometer. Yes, radiation will cause an acceleration, but radiation falls off as one over the distance squared. So as you get farther from the Sun, the intensity of the radiation falls. So there is a limit to the acceleration that can be achieved.

The solar wind is not radiation. It is particles, protons and electrons. When the particles reach the Earth they interact with the Earth's magnetosphere and caused the aurora.
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if photon has momentum, why laser beam cannot move a flame? if photon has momentum, why is light mill not spinning/moving in hard vacuum?

what is photon? where it came from? how it carries momentum?

before the solar wind reaches earth, why protons and electrons do not form into hydrogen atoms?
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google down?
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
by now, can you see e=mcc is bs?

m is mass/matter/charged particles. e is moving/vibrating force/electrostatic force.

if m moves at c speed, it carries 1/2mcc energy, for m to carry mcc energy, it has to move faster than light.
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No. That is not what it means. E=mc^2 is the rest energy of a mass. Rest means not moving.

The energy of a photon is E=hf where h is Planck's constant and f is the frequency of the photon.

For objects that are not photons, the energy is E=(1/2)mv^2 where v is the velocity of motion.
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what is energy? what is rest energy?

what is photon? what frequency of photon? is photon vibrating? can you prove it?
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wiki?
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
This is weird! I search for "gravity proof" on YT and I found this vid. There are many others.

Watch the water flowing uphill!


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what force pulls the car and water go up the hill?

due to uneven density of the crust, some part of earth has stronger gravity.

under that hill, might be a huge heavy metal mine.

buy that land my friend.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
hold the sun in right hand, and hold the earth in the left hand, feel the attraction force?

that is gravity. what's its speed? zero.

force has direction, strength, but force has no speed. only moving matter has speed.

if you wave right hand, earth will wave in your left hand due to gravity.

but the strange thing is, there is a time delay between the two hands.

gravity conducts/transfers/moves at light speed.

only moving force has speed. tension, attraction, pressure, rest forces have no speed.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
hold the sun in right hand, and hold the earth in the left hand, feel the attraction force?

that is gravity. what's its speed? zero.

force has direction, strength, but force has no speed. only moving matter has speed.

if you wave right hand, earth will wave in your left hand due to gravity.

but the strange thing is, there is a time delay between the two hands.

gravity conducts/transfers/moves at light speed.

only moving force has speed. tension, attraction, pressure, rest forces have no speed.
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No. Gravity is not slow like the speed of light, which is a rate of induction.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
when you waving right hand, that waving force/energy follow the gravity line teleported to left hand.

without gravity/force, there is no energy transforming. force is the carrier/messenger/conductor of energy.

the sun does not shoot out energy/photon into space. there is no photon, no mechanism.

the sun only shares its thermal energy with matters surround.

the forces between the sun and planets are the pipelines.

namely f=G x m1m2/rr and f=Ke x q1q2/rr.

every electron on the atoms on the surface of the moon is repelled by every electron on the line of sight surface atoms on earth. Those electrons conduct light energy.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
understood matter and energy, wonder about life.

if matter and energy are conserved, how can life vanish?

why worry about afterlife?

truth shall set you free
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vote me for pope?

i gave you eternal life.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
understood matter and energy, wonder about life.

if matter and energy are conserved, how can life vanish?

why worry about afterlife?

truth shall set you free
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if you are bad, don't worry, you'll get paid with interest.

soon!
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
This is weird! I search for "gravity proof" on YT and I found this vid. There are many others.

Watch the water flowing uphill!


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what force pulls the car and water go up the hill?

due to uneven density of the crust, some part of earth has stronger gravity.

under that hill, might be a huge heavy metal mine.

buy that land my friend.
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The angles of the road and landscape create an optical illusion.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
lmao

did i get you?
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be good

brothers and sisters

don't sleep around
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
sleep together
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
This is weird! I search for "gravity proof" on YT and I found this vid. There are many others.

Watch the water flowing uphill!


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what force pulls the car and water go up the hill?

due to uneven density of the crust, some part of earth has stronger gravity.

under that hill, might be a huge heavy metal mine.

buy that land my friend.
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The angles of the road and landscape create an optical illusion.
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Really? Did you watch the whole video? Please do it.

Also, watch the 3D graphics of "g" variances on Earth:

[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
1 electron carries 1 negative charge

if we smash the electron into 1000000 equal pieces, each piece will carry 1/1000000 negative charge. Let's call it enertron.

since enertrons carry the same negative charge, they repel each other.

if we have a perfect bottle, which means no leakage, no react, like glass bottle to air.

we put 1000000 enertrons into the perfect bottle, since enertrons repel each other, they put a pressure on the bottle wall. let's measure and call that pressure 1 vote.

if we put 2000000 enertrons into the same bottle, the pressure on the wall should be 2 vote.

now if 1 enertron is moving or vibrating, the rest all enertrons will share the force according to their distance.

that is the mechanism of light/quantum.
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why is energy conserved?

if you push/put a moving force on any enertron with a force f, that force is spreading to all the enertrons in the bottle, they all are moving now, and cannot stop ever ever.

do we have a perfect bottle?

yes, every atom is a perfect bottle. all matters are perfect bottle. energy has nowhere to go but bounce within and between matters.

the forces f=Ke x e1e2/rr and f=G x m1m2/rr are like perfect springs between/within matters, connected all matters in 1.

1 for all, all for 1. peace, love, vote me for pres 2020.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
1 electron carries 1 negative charge

if we smash the electron into 1000000 equal pieces, each piece will carry 1/1000000 negative charge. Let's call it enertron.

since enertrons carry the same negative charge, they repel each other.

if we have a perfect bottle, which means no leakage, no react, like glass bottle to air.

we put 1000000 enertrons into the perfect bottle, since enertrons repel each other, they put a pressure on the bottle wall. let's measure and call that pressure 1 vote.

if we put 2000000 enertrons into the same bottle, the pressure on the wall should be 2 vote.

now if 1 enertron is moving or vibrating, the rest all enertrons will share the force according to their distance.

that is the mechanism of light/quantum.
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why is energy conserved?

if you push/put a moving force on any enertron with a force f, that force is spreading to all the enertrons in the bottle, they all are moving now, and cannot stop ever ever.

do we have a perfect bottle?

yes, every atom is a perfect bottle. all matters are perfect bottle. energy has nowhere to go but bounce within and between matters.

the forces f=Ke x e1e2/rr and f=G x m1m2/rr are like perfect springs between/within matters, connected all matters in 1.

1 for all, all for 1. peace, love, vote me for pres 2020.
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According to the BBT, energy is not conserved. It is created from nothing, and dissapear to nothing.

Think in cosmic scales. Make up your mind to accept a new unit of lenght equal to the diameter of our galaxy (150K yl).

Give yourself an height of 2 or 3 meters in this new scale.

Now look at and observe the Universe. Something different from our perception as microbes in this little and almost invisible rock? You bet it would be different!
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
none of those bb supporters understand what is energy

not even newton, einstein.

why take their bs as gold?
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06/19/2017 11:09 AM
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none of those bb supporters understand what is energy

not even newton, einstein.

why take their bs as gold?
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They know more than you
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
This is weird! I search for "gravity proof" on YT and I found this vid. There are many others.

Watch the water flowing uphill!


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Long ago debunked as an optical illusion
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
Unlike you, I have not resorted to ad hominem attacks.

And no, I do not believe you. I do not believe you are an expert in DSP. I do not believe you have multiple degrees.

And, despite your fake broken English, I recognize you for who you really are. The poster formally known as Anonymous Astrophysicist and half a dozen other names. You keep getting banned and reinvent yourself with a new persona.

And now you will say the same tired thing about not knowing who AA is.
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OK, buddy. PEACE!!!


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I formally invite to you, if you ever come to Argentina, to an ASADO with EMPANADAS appetizers and good argentinian wine.

A good food with friendly talk is the best thing in the world to settle differences.
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I'll be there next Thursday
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
none of those bb supporters understand what is energy

not even newton, einstein.

why take their bs as gold?
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They know more than you
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such as what?

about energy
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
none of those bb supporters understand what is energy

not even newton, einstein.

why take their bs as gold?
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They know more than you
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such as what?

about energy
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Energy is unstable and also leaks to other dimensions.

Watch Hawkings talking about black holes.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
none of those bb supporters understand what is energy

not even newton, einstein.

why take their bs as gold?
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They know more than you
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such as what?

about energy
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Energy is unstable and also leaks to other dimensions.

Watch Hawkings talking about black holes.
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what is energy? what other dimensions? how energy leaks to other dimensions? what the exact mechanism?

Does he know what is light? what is energy? please share his words.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
why nice people bluff a little?
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
every atom in your body is very very old

no atoms will die ever ever

why is the sun will die? cus science told you so?

are u still a sheep?

the sun will never cool off a bit, the sun does not shoot out energy/photon into space around it.

the sun shares its radiant energy with matters around it.

hot atoms on the sun share their vibrating force with matters on earth, f=G x m1m2/rr and f=Ke x e1e2/rr are the carriers of sun's energy.

sun light/solar energy is not keeping shooting at earth,
but moving around the earth as earth spins.

the same energy circling around, never lose a bit into space.
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is this westward moving energy producing current in the atmosphere?

where is lighting energy came from?

do you understand energy now?
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
every atom in your body is very very old

no atoms will die ever ever

why is the sun will die? cus science told you so?

are u still a sheep?

the sun will never cool off a bit, the sun does not shoot out energy/photon into space around it.

the sun shares its radiant energy with matters around it.

hot atoms on the sun share their vibrating force with matters on earth, f=G x m1m2/rr and f=Ke x e1e2/rr are the carriers of sun's energy.

sun light/solar energy is not keeping shooting at earth,
but moving around the earth as earth spins.

the same energy circling around, never lose a bit into space.
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is this westward moving energy producing current in the atmosphere?

where is lighting energy came from?

do you understand energy now?
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You didn't realize, perhaps, the magic question you did at the beginning of your post: HOW OLD AN ATOM IS!

This, alone, worth a new thread to explore the thoughts of the GPLers.

I'm going to do it now, on your behalf!
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
1 electron carries 1 negative charge

if we smash the electron into 1000000 equal pieces, each piece will carry 1/1000000 negative charge. Let's call it enertron.

since enertrons carry the same negative charge, they repel each other.

if we have a perfect bottle, which means no leakage, no react, like glass bottle to air.

we put 1000000 enertrons into the perfect bottle, since enertrons repel each other, they put a pressure on the bottle wall. let's measure and call that pressure 1 vote.

if we put 2000000 enertrons into the same bottle, the pressure on the wall should be 2 vote.

now if 1 enertron is moving or vibrating, the rest all enertrons will share the force according to their distance.

that is the mechanism of light/quantum.
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now if we put 1 positive charge into the perfect bottle, what will happen?

enertrons should be attracted by the positive charge and form a ball around it, the closer to the positive charge the denser enertron cloud. the density of the enertron is decay at 1/rrr due to the repulsion force between enertrons decay at 1/rr.

the enertron cloud is always vibrating, due to the existence of energy, the unbalance attraction force and repulsion force, within the enertron cloud and the center positive charge.

now image enertron is real thing, it carries a tiny negative charge, something like 1/10^33 electron charge, but it has stronger force field, similar to neodymium magnet compare with iron magnet.

image proton actually carries 918 positive charges, it attracted 917 total charges of enertrons formed a solid ball, 1 electron attached on the ball to form a neutrally charged hydrogen atom.

this is the real atomic structure.

atoms are solid balls, matter is not compressible. such as water.

if atoms are constructed as science told you, as qm bs model, why water is not compressible? electron shell/wave/cloud/orbital my ass, all bs.
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better than the standard model to you?
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
i smoked a joint with a bigfoot in the woods.

bluffed few times here, hope someone will belive me so day.

laugh so hard, ball jumped out my pants.
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not in my behave, my dear friend.

i don't know how old is an atom, and i don't want to get caught.
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Re: Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?
not in my behave, my dear friend.

i don't know how old is an atom, and i don't want to get caught.
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Just relax and follow the flow.

I also created a thread about a super sammich at late night. Join the sammich party. No free electrons, I promise!


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