Unresolved mistery: What is the speed of Gravity?

I'm very sorry. This was not me.

Lo siento, compatriota. Mi error.

One of the goals of this true genius was to write an unified theory about electricity and magnetism and, man, he did it in a magnifiscient way: Only 4 equations that tell it all. Modern telecommunications developed from those equations.

What is incredible is that Maxwell figure out the speed of light by theoretical means in his equations.

He observed that the equations were similar to wave equations already known, and figure out "c" as:

The square root of the product of the permittivity of free space, and the permeability of free space, constants already known but not with their correct values by 1865.

This is off-topic, so I will be brief. Digital Signal Processing (DSP) is a technique, not a

No. The transistor works because someone in the late 1800's noticed a rectifying effect in a certain mineral crystal (galena). That knowledge was used to make more refined versions of devices that operated on similar principles, leading to the invention of the transistor in 1948.

(The transistor was invented because of a rock, not because of a theory.)

Just because someone (Einstein and friends) calls it "Quantum", and provides an explanation based upon "Quantum Theory", does not mean that explanation is accurate.

As an example, gunpowder was invented over 1000 years ago by the Chinese, but the true nature of combustion (the work of oxygen) was not understood until the 1700's.

People were using gunpowder in fireworks and of course guns for hundreds of years before understanding how exactly it worked.

The lack of true knowledge of the nature of oxygen (present in the potassium nitrate) did not prevent people from making guns.

The "scientific theory" of "phlogiston" was used to explain combustion before the true nature of oxygen was discovered.

In this case, Quantum Theory is like the theory of "phlogiston", accepted by mainstream science, but totally wrong.

Some "scientist" could say "You don't believe in phlogiston? Watch what happens when I shoot you with my gun", and think he's won the case, but his phlogiston explanation is bogus.

"Only 4 equations that tell it all"

Actually, Maxwell himself wrote more complex equations. The 4 equations which bear his name today were developed by Oliver Heaviside based upon Maxwell's work.

Note that neither Maxwell or Heaviside believed in "particles" and they certainly did not believe in QM.

"the electron was discovered 20 years after Maxwell died"

No, the electron explanation was invented in 1897, and Thomson "won a prize" for it in 1906. No actual electron was discovered.

Gravity propagation is not instantaneous, but it is many orders of magnitude faster than the speed of light. Do some research.

how do you know reaches are correct?

do you understand that double slit and aether experiments are done in air not in vacuum?

light is passing through air not vacuum?

do you know some of the data are faked to match math predictions?

you must do your own research, not read and believe all bs.

for those think the electron is not a real particle, ask yourself.

without electron, where is the negative charge? what carries electric force? how are atoms formed?

50 years ago i put a rock on each hand, overlap my hands try to figure out gravity.

60 years ago, been asked what i want to be when growing up, i want to be a scientist.

major in physics, my professor told the class that he helped his professor faked data to get a nobel.

dropped out for pussy and never get back school.

the first doubt in science is atomic structure theories.

electron shells? 1s2d3p my ass. quantum state? nuton state?

read a lot, google a lot, banned by every science forum.

glp is the only place i can talk freely. too bad tri no like science.

Why do you think a force or field needs a particle to carry it?

the most beautiful thing in the universe is mystery

we are leafs on the tree of life

who quoted those?

mass carries gravity

charged particles carry charges/electrostatic forces

magnet/charged particles carry magnetic force.

facts, without matter/charged particles, there is no force, no field, nothing exists.

Is there a speed faster than light? Is there a speed faster than gravity? My best guess there is.

"Speed of gravity" sounds really funny, correct term is frequency of polarity change.

We the retarded earthlings haven't discovered it yet.

a train travels at 100 m/h cannot push a man to 101 m/h.

nothing can move faster than the force that accelerates it.

ftl traveling is impossible in reality.

I can tell that we are close in our age. Sorry for your bad experiences in other forums. Regarding Sci Fi, I'm a big fan, but of the good stuff (clasics).

Did you try to write a short story with your ideas and some weird stuff added? I tried long time ago, but I failed miserably. Didn't liked what I wrote and never tried again. I am very technical person, and a good writer has also to know HOW to tell stories, and I don't have it. Instead I wrote a couple of technical handbooks on telecommunications.

And finally, NOBODY KNOWS SHIT! And I extend this to every f*cking discipline in the world.

I tell you a short anecdote. When writing a handbook on telecomm, I wanted to make it integral, so I devoted a Chapter to talk about hearing, speech and vission systems in the human body. This knowledge has been vital to develop the current standards (ITU and other bodies) for transmiting and receiving levels of the voice and in the development of analog TV, B&W or colour.

I get involved deeply in scientific papers that TRIED to explain HOW the humans LISTEN. It happens that, as of today, NOTHING is known beyond the middle ear!! So, the inner ear subsystem (cochlear system) is a MISTERY, because is a sealed system. Every time they try to make even a micro-opening in the cochlea to put micro-mirros and use laser interferometry to understand how the Corti organ works, they KILL IT. The Corti organ looks like a little worm embedded in a bone with spiral shape, and is filled with a fluid like water, and is sealed with a membrane that connects to the bones of the middle ear.

First disections of a cochlea were made around 1850. 120 years have passed and the MEDICAL SCIENCE can't go beyond this point. They DON'T KNOW how the Cochlea works.

Therefore, they know less about circa 4000 neurones (large ones) that goes to the opposite cerebral auditive cortex.

But, and this is the funny thing, they know LESS of about 35000 neurons that goes back from the brain to the cochlea, forming an extraordinary closed loop control circuit just for the hearing in one ear. Double the problem with both ears.

ENTER ENGINEERING - EXIST SCIENTISTS: Engineers, since late 70's have developed prostetic that REPLACES a damaged Cochlea. This prostetic connects to a mic on the ear AND to less than 50-100 neurons (of the 4000 that goes to the brain), and VOILÁ!, people can LEARN to ear again.

More than 500.000 implants of Cochlea so far.

And "doctors" don't know how the human being ears.

That's the difference between science and engineering. The last discipline uses the basic knowledge of science and takes shortcuts to get results.

This line of thought has been vital in microelectronics development since the beggining.

Don't take my word. Take the word of Andy Groove, founder and former CEO of Intel, who made it such a monster as it is today.

This anecdote can be applied to every field where engineering crosses with science to produce technology, and include quantum mechanics and else.

Gravity is not a subject of work for engineers. If it were, they would have found already ANTIGRAVITY devices.

What you are saying is the way most people think, but it is actually backwards.

Particles (electrons, etc) do not carry charge, magnetic forces, or anything. There are none of those particles.

There are electro-magnetic forces, and everything that has mass is composed of stable arrangements of such.

You keep believing this fake science of yours. See how far you really get.

No Speed of light

No it isn't. Gravity doesn't undergo "polarity changes".

2 masses/bodies at distance r, attract each other with a force f=G x m1m2/rr. this is the most correct proven physics law.

if 1 mass is moving/vibrating, the other mass will sense the force at the same frequency.

just like if you put opposite magnet poles in each hand, wave 1 hand and feel the force on another hand.

the force, no matter tension or attraction, is like a real thing connecting all matters at any distance.

force is the carrier of energy/light/thermal radiation/em waves.

spooky action at a distance is bs

all motions are caused by force act on mass/matter.

all forces are electrostatic force in nature, it has a fixed speed.

no mass/matter can exist at different position/space at same time.

nothing can pass distance instantly. not even forces or thoughts.

nothing is ever stopped moving.

cus force is immortal, energy is conserved.

Enjoyable thought provoking thread.

is Gravity limited to c?

black holes can pull faster than c thats why they are black.


this can only be possible if

1. Time is relative and c speeds up as you approach the black hole.
Einstein is right


Or

2. Gravity is faster than light.
Einstein is wrong.



I vote for 1 but science isn't a vote(except global warming)

How do we test?

without matter, there is no energy, no force, nothing. no us, no thought.

matter is made from charged particles.

opposite charged particles attract each other, they collide like magnet and iron ball. the impact force/energy becomes heat/thermal energy of the atoms.

the more atoms get together by gravity attraction, the more mass is added, the higher thermal energy density, the higher temperature.

so bigger star carry more energy, produce stronger light.

the energy is stored in vibrating atoms/charged particles.

the energy a star carry is the vibrating gravity and electrostatic force in its total mass/charges.

the sun's energy is from star formation, the sun is not an active nuclear reactor.

the energy cannot vanish into space but share with other matters surround according to their distance.

no kidding

better than weed smoking plus pussy grabbing

10 mph.

Gravity is an invented name just as gravity?

False theories filling in the gaps?

Does it bend water?

Is it anything?

Neither statement is correct. The speed of light is constant even near a black hole. Simple observations have shown that light bends near a massive object. Light has been observed to bend when light from a distant star passes near the Sun.

So to, light bends near a black hole only the bending is so strong that the light is unable to escape.