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The Jehovah's Witness Bible PROVES that JESUS IS GOD

 
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God the Father is the Holy Spirit. It is the greatest of all when Jesus referred to it saying God is greater than all. How can we determine that? Simple, Jesus said ALL SINS shall be forgiven men, even if they sin against the Son, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will NOT be forgiven at all ever - assured destruction.

So the Father soul is in Jesus which is the Holy Ghost and the Father Spirit is in Jesus in his soul. When he prayed to the Father he prayed to the power in him that sustains all things. Jesus said the Father is IN him, but also he was IN the Father. We know that for the sake of understanding the mystery of the triune nature of God we must reason with 3 parts of God that are all equal to each other and although they may extend and manifest unto and in many people at once, that they 3 originate and are 1 in Christ Jesus. Otherwise we could easily argue with God asking how he is 1 God if his Holy Spirit is in multiple people at once - that obviously seems like polytheism. Yet if any Christian and Jehovah's Witness can ignore that, or understand it and explain it without God being a polytheos, then the Son, being God, MUST BE God the Father.

The bible says let God be true and every man a liar. That means when Jesus' accusers said he was a liar, sinner, blasphemer, evil, wrong for making himself equal to God, wrong for making himself God, those were lies, even blasphemous. Jesus was without sin, so when he made himself the great I AM, and he took glory from the Father, it was not pride because he was the firstborn image of the invisible Godhead bodily after which all other things were created and came into existence. The Holy Spirit therefore is God in the purest sense, unsensable, pure power, and Jesus is God in the purest material manifest sense, sensable, pure power. Amen.
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iamwith

It was bad enough with the thread of Jesus = God = Archangel Michael...but you are saying that the Holy Spirit is God Himself?

The Holy Spirit is either sent by Jehovah Himself or at Jesus' request. Just like Jesus, it too does NOTHING but the Father's Will.

It's apparent that the Holy Spirit only goes where the Father sends it, as Jesus states that He will "ask the Father to send them a Comforter".

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62295128


It's apparent that you don't understand that before anything was made was the Spirit and pure essence that is the power of God. And that which is made comes from that which is unmade, so the Spirit is greater than the soul and body and all other things which it created. If you cannot even comprehend this very basic understanding that creation did not always exist but was created by the uncreated Creator, either don't speak or becareful what you do speak before you speak blasphemy AGAIN.
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It's apparent that you don't understand , God had to be made , created , by what , a first now forgotten God , or did God just materialise out of a void and think , hey I'll make a universe with planets , stars etc and only put life on 1 planet . Seems real enough to me , NOT !
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Jesus has this world locked and rocked!

enjoy it!
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God the Father is the Holy Spirit. It is the greatest of all when Jesus referred to it saying God is greater than all. How can we determine that? Simple, Jesus said ALL SINS shall be forgiven men, even if they sin against the Son, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will NOT be forgiven at all ever - assured destruction.

So the Father soul is in Jesus which is the Holy Ghost and the Father Spirit is in Jesus in his soul. When he prayed to the Father he prayed to the power in him that sustains all things. Jesus said the Father is IN him, but also he was IN the Father. We know that for the sake of understanding the mystery of the triune nature of God we must reason with 3 parts of God that are all equal to each other and although they may extend and manifest unto and in many people at once, that they 3 originate and are 1 in Christ Jesus. Otherwise we could easily argue with God asking how he is 1 God if his Holy Spirit is in multiple people at once - that obviously seems like polytheism. Yet if any Christian and Jehovah's Witness can ignore that, or understand it and explain it without God being a polytheos, then the Son, being God, MUST BE God the Father.

The bible says let God be true and every man a liar. That means when Jesus' accusers said he was a liar, sinner, blasphemer, evil, wrong for making himself equal to God, wrong for making himself God, those were lies, even blasphemous. Jesus was without sin, so when he made himself the great I AM, and he took glory from the Father, it was not pride because he was the firstborn image of the invisible Godhead bodily after which all other things were created and came into existence. The Holy Spirit therefore is God in the purest sense, unsensable, pure power, and Jesus is God in the purest material manifest sense, sensable, pure power. Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70425693

interesting

but jw-s told me jesus is not god
jehova is god
jesus' daddy
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Not sure how anyone can see the evidence in the OP and deny Jesus is God unless they are under heavy delusion brought on by their own love for sin, or there is simply no room for God in their heart. Every soul who does not know who the Father God is in a personal and intimate way does not and cannot have any peace in their life. Peace only comes from knowing and worshipping God in the truth of his indwelling Spirit.

A father who has a son is a father and a son.
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Hate to tell you buddy but there are billions of Muslims , Hindus and whatever other religion that disagrees with your way of thinking , so why should I believe that you are right and billions of other people are wrong or is it billions of other people are right and you are wrong ?? Either way religion sucks !
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Your obviously an idiot... I was raised 20 years as a jw .. not anymore...by the way we use every version of the Bible ... just because you have a jw bible DOES NOT make you knowledgeable...
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Your obviously an idiot... I was raised 20 years as a jw .. not anymore...by the way we use every version of the Bible ... just because you have a jw bible DOES NOT make you knowledgeable...
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Correct !!
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No one can receive the Holy Spirit without accepting Jesus as equal to the Father

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Did the Father die on the cross?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68743696


Yes AND No.

God CANNOT die. I am speaking of the Soul and Spirit part of the trinity of the bodily God Jesus.

There is a technical religious term for how things can progress, or change, as time passes on in regards to claims in verses from the bible. I don't know what it is but this is what I mean, wherein the bible it states that God is NOT a man, it does not say God CANNOT BECOME a man. When it states God cannot die, it doesn't state he cannot become a man and his fleshly part die.

So technically the truthful answer is Yes AND No. It cannot be only Yes or only No because both would be inaccurate given the understanding of both scripture and Jesus' divine nature, being the Father himself.

The Father died absolutely, Jesus' wasn't divinely healed from the Father without dying first, and Jesus is the Father. But the Father Spirit and Soul cannot die hence the resurrection and eternal life. The body died, the Soul and Spirit did not die.

The name of the Body, and the Soul, and the Spirit, is the same Jesus.

Jesus proved with his words, and he being no liar, that he cannot be killed!

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
John 10:17-18

He must willfully give up the Spirit after any amount of torture. He cannot be burned to death. He cannot have his head chopped off and die. He must at his own will give up his Spirit when he decides in order for him to die.
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Instead of letting a NOVEL tell you how to live , why not get out of the religious box and look at the real world ?
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Jehovah is God
Jesus is his son
The Holy Spirit is Gods active force.
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I crossed a Jehovah's witness with a Hells Angel and got a guy that knocks on your door and tells you to FUCK OFF .
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That's a bit tricky to pull off, Boss, we'll see how the collective reacts.
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If Jesus is God who is the son of God?
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Wrong Question.
You should ask "Who is his Father?"
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YHWH is the Father and the son. He was the father in the flesh. He came in the FATHERS NAME..which is YHWH. Emmanuah means YAH with us.
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If Jesus is God who is the son of God?
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Wrong Question.
You should ask "Who is his Father?"
 Quoting: Lofty Elim


YHWH is the Father and the son. He was the father in the flesh. He came in the FATHERS NAME..which is YHWH. Emmanuah means YAH with us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74027483


Amen.

Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine:
Ezekiel 18:4
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Jesus got painted in the corner to be God of white people. Whatever. I guess the enemy dies by their ignorance.
My people will prevail
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How can you sit there and claim that Jesus is God, when the Bible CLEARLY SAYS THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON.

ARE YOU THAT STUPID THAT YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS???

JOHN 3:16

JESUS IS REPEATEDLY CALLED THE "SON OF GOD".

HE CALLED GOD HIS FATHER.

HE SAID GOD SENT HIM TO EARTH.

THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS WAS CREATED.

GOD RESURRECTED JESUS. A DEAD PERSON CANNOT RESURRECT HIMSELF.

YOU ARE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING THE OPPOSITE IF WHAT IS TRUE.

ONCE AND FOR ALL:

JESUS IS NOT GOD. HE WAS CREATED BY GOD AND HE IS GOD'S SON.

END OF DISCUSSION.
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Show your support by wearing a red x pin. Not a red Cross you got to turn it sideways.
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How can you sit there and claim that Jesus is God, when the Bible CLEARLY SAYS THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON.

ARE YOU THAT STUPID THAT YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS???

JOHN 3:16

JESUS IS REPEATEDLY CALLED THE "SON OF GOD".

HE CALLED GOD HIS FATHER.

HE SAID GOD SENT HIM TO EARTH.

THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS WAS CREATED.

GOD RESURRECTED JESUS. A DEAD PERSON CANNOT RESURRECT HIMSELF.

YOU ARE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING THE OPPOSITE IF WHAT IS TRUE.

ONCE AND FOR ALL:

JESUS IS NOT GOD. HE WAS CREATED BY GOD AND HE IS GOD'S SON.

END OF DISCUSSION.
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Blasphemy. Repent to Jesus, he will forgive you if you humble yourself and seek the truth.
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Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)
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