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this and your last post are correct, the debt potential of the EU, CANADA and the US is tapped out for generations, that is why new borns are initiated at birth with an SSN number an debt is immediatly started, even though it violates commercial/martime law.

They simply must have new collateral to assign more debt currency into existance, thus, they bring in the refuge and sign it up!
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this and your last post are correct, the debt potential of the EU, CANADA and the US is tapped out for generations, that is why new borns are initiated at birth with an SSN number an debt is immediatly started, even though it violates commercial/martime law.

They simply must have new collateral to assign more debt currency into existance, thus, they bring in the refuge and sign it up!
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Yup. Exactly.
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
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Hopefully, the dude who proposed the idea that I'm being initiated in a society is still around. Check out the last, say...ten minutes of this video. I think what we've been experiencing has to do with Hermetics. I think "people" who have gone down this road before us and gotten "all the way," let say, have ascended out of their bodies and have gotten to the point where they can manipulate matter. I don't think any"one" kicked your ash tray off your porch. It was all done via the ethers by ascended masters as a clue to help you/us along the way. Like you said...you had thought about quitting smoking or something?? My medicine cabinet has been rearranged. Things left at my door step. It goes on ad nauseum. Seriously...

This video is fascinating and resonates withe me highly. Watch the whole thing if you have time, but definitely the last ten minutes:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I really think it answered a lot of my questions. It helped me realize that I'll probably never have a serious relationship, again. That is a concept that I have never really comprehended. I mean screw occasionally, sure, but anything more than that? Pffffft...
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Hey yeah Im still around. Forgot to look at this thread recently. I'll check out the video.

Those above posts about the refugees in the EU (and hispanic immigrants in USA) is 100% correct. It's all about new debt slaves to monetize since traditional population birth rates are declining. The system is being changed in the background as dollar loses global reserve standard but the ECB needs more bodies for more debt during the last stages of the current system. The ECB is buying the new debt created by the immigrants to the tune of about 60B euro per month.
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Also, by "new debt" I mean the ECB is buying the bonds created by the monetization of the new immigrants. The revelation that the SS is merely a bank account number makes sense. It is the "retirement account" for "federal employees". Everyone that is a US Citizen (presumably same applies to EU Citizens and various other countries under same system) is actually a federal employee since they pay the interest on the debt accrued by the federal corporation (US Govt Inc.). We are all federal employees if we are "Citizens" and this is why income tax technically only applies to federal employees.

So, if one knows the routing number of the bank acting as the trustee of the SS account, seems reasonable that the account could be drawn upon like any other bank account. Hmm...does the Fed hold the bank account, does the Treasury, or is the SSA its own bank?
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A thread was deleted earlier. Some of you had seen it I'm sure.

research: "Bureau of Public Debt" - it has the US treasury routing number

Lot's of interesting information here.
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Cluck,
I thought about your 'address' posts. Is a routing number not an address? A routing number is an address through SWIFT to a bank.

Thinking about the SS issue, if the SS# (minus dashes) is an account number (which makes complete sense since it's an individual identifier), could the red number be the address/ROUTING NUMBER of the account? Seems it would be easy enough to test if the red number is a routing number by setting up a payment account on a credit card account or other routing number verifying service and see if it accepts it or even identifies the bank. Routing numbers are 9 digit numbers.

On the same note, the lettered prefix on a COLB red number denotes the Fed bank that holds the bond issued from the COLB. The Fed website (iirc) tells us which branch bank that is and it's easy to find the associated routing number for that branch through the Fed website. Mine is the NY Fed. The rest of the number is a CUSIP for the issued bond?

Thoughts? This might be much more simple than realized.

I have further thoughts that I must organize but banking is banking! It's actually NOT rocket science though they try to make it sound like it is. The bond exists, it is what the Fed takes from Treas and fills the trust account with FRN in exchange.
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Very important link. Very:

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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
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Correct.
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Also, by "new debt" I mean the ECB is buying the bonds created by the monetization of the new immigrants. The revelation that the SS is merely a bank account number makes sense. It is the "retirement account" for "federal employees". Everyone that is a US Citizen (presumably same applies to EU Citizens and various other countries under same system) is actually a federal employee since they pay the interest on the debt accrued by the federal corporation (US Govt Inc.). We are all federal employees if we are "Citizens" and this is why income tax technically only applies to federal employees.

So, if one knows the routing number of the bank acting as the trustee of the SS account, seems reasonable that the account could be drawn upon like any other bank account. Hmm...does the Fed hold the bank account, does the Treasury, or is the SSA its own bank?
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Your logic is generally sound, but, unfortunately, that is no longer the case with this. ACH payments simply no longer work with this particular method. My research has led me to believe that Check 21 is what stopped all that. Check 21 is an act that modernized the way checks are processed and in the process changed up what FED branch processes what checks for whom. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that Atlanta pretty much processes all checks, electronic or otherwise.

Interesting questions there at the end of your post. Literally exactly what I working on at the moment. That could have all been switched up with Check 21, also. Could...I dunno for sure. I think the Treasury recognizes the bond number because they sent documentation to me that led me to the SSA. SSA issued the silly thing, so, of course, it makes sense they'd know what the hell to do with it. Or in my case, know what sort of weird hints to give me so I'd know what to do with it. SSA could well be its own bank. It's just a gigantic fund within the overarching In God We trust.

I would advise to think of the bond number as an address more than an account, though it is both.
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Cluck,
I thought about your 'address' posts. Is a routing number not an address? A routing number is an address through SWIFT to a bank.

Thinking about the SS issue, if the SS# (minus dashes) is an account number (which makes complete sense since it's an individual identifier), could the red number be the address/ROUTING NUMBER of the account? Seems it would be easy enough to test if the red number is a routing number by setting up a payment account on a credit card account or other routing number verifying service and see if it accepts it or even identifies the bank. Routing numbers are 9 digit numbers.

On the same note, the lettered prefix on a COLB red number denotes the Fed bank that holds the bond issued from the COLB. The Fed website (iirc) tells us which branch bank that is and it's easy to find the associated routing number for that branch through the Fed website. Mine is the NY Fed. The rest of the number is a CUSIP for the issued bond?

Thoughts? This might be much more simple than realized.

I have further thoughts that I must organize but banking is banking! It's actually NOT rocket science though they try to make it sound like it is. The bond exists, it is what the Fed takes from Treas and fills the trust account with FRN in exchange.
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I have tried the bond number as a routing number. It was not recognized. I do not have a letter on the BC bond number.

You are correct. The profundity of this lies within its simplicity. It's the 180 degree turn in thinking that is the difficult part.

My address change with SSA worked. Flat out. Things got SUPER weird the week after I sent it in. I received an "invitation" via text. Invitation is about use of property. It's my thinking that I need to accept the property (the title), add the new address, pay it over, and send it in.
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Additionally, the ss bond number is an EIN as opposed to a valid ssn. Look up use in black's. It speaks of use as EMPLOYing things.

EMPLOYer identification number.
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This is why that's so powerful. Using the number with the check digit shows that we are coming forward and EMPLOYing the trust as beneficiary instead of the trust using us as trustees.

It's a big word jacuzzi. Crazy.
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
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Correct.
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Cluck, this came to me in my walking meditation last night.

The number we have been missing?

The DATE OF BIRTH! 00/00/0000 month/day/year OR day/month/year for military/war?

ALL DOBs have 8 numbers, the 9th number being the check number. Now we have 9 9 9 or 6 6 6 depending on your perspective does the DOB with check number mean anything?

Like the dude on the recording said, "its all right in front of your eyes...

we need to have another form of comunikation, i think this thread is going to be M I A soon...
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
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Correct.
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Cluck, this came to me in my walking meditation last night.

The number we have been missing?

The DATE OF BIRTH! 00/00/0000 month/day/year OR day/month/year for military/war?

ALL DOBs have 8 numbers, the 9th number being the check number. Now we have 9 9 9 or 6 6 6 depending on your perspective does the DOB with check number mean anything?

Like the dude on the recording said, "its all right in front of your eyes...

we need to have another form of comunikation, i think this thread is going to be M I A soon...
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I took a look at dob stuff quite a while back. Didn't come up with anything, but that doesn't mean there's nothing to it. I do my best to be open despite my previous research/experience.

You're more than welcome to message me. Privateaeye(at) the slightly different domain name than the chocolate milk brand.
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Cluck,
I thought about your 'address' posts. Is a routing number not an address? A routing number is an address through SWIFT to a bank.

Thinking about the SS issue, if the SS# (minus dashes) is an account number (which makes complete sense since it's an individual identifier), could the red number be the address/ROUTING NUMBER of the account? Seems it would be easy enough to test if the red number is a routing number by setting up a payment account on a credit card account or other routing number verifying service and see if it accepts it or even identifies the bank. Routing numbers are 9 digit numbers.

On the same note, the lettered prefix on a COLB red number denotes the Fed bank that holds the bond issued from the COLB. The Fed website (iirc) tells us which branch bank that is and it's easy to find the associated routing number for that branch through the Fed website. Mine is the NY Fed. The rest of the number is a CUSIP for the issued bond?

Thoughts? This might be much more simple than realized.

I have further thoughts that I must organize but banking is banking! It's actually NOT rocket science though they try to make it sound like it is. The bond exists, it is what the Fed takes from Treas and fills the trust account with FRN in exchange.
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I have tried the bond number as a routing number. It was not recognized. I do not have a letter on the BC bond number.

You are correct. The profundity of this lies within its simplicity. It's the 180 degree turn in thinking that is the difficult part.

My address change with SSA worked. Flat out. Things got SUPER weird the week after I sent it in. I received an "invitation" via text. Invitation is about use of property. It's my thinking that I need to accept the property (the title), add the new address, pay it over, and send it in.
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Can you explain what you did, regarding SS address change? I'm not clear what you mean by that.


I do think that this process starts with filing the UCC-1 for the COLB with the issuing authority (state SecState) and notifying the Treasury. Until that is done, we have no legal standing to act as executor of any estate property. We only have standing to act as beneficiary (or on occasion like traffic court, as trustee when duped into it) and receive "benefits" as the executor (govt) sees fit. In legal terms, acting as executor, without establishing proper standing to do so, is "executor de son tort" and is illegal.
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What, specifically, does all this do to actually provide measurable benefit to you?
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This is why that's so powerful. Using the number with the check digit shows that we are coming forward and EMPLOYing the trust as beneficiary instead of the trust using us as trustees.

It's a big word jacuzzi. Crazy.
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I just read this post. Beneficiaries generally have no power to control the contents of a trust, only receive benefits from the trust and only at the direction that the executor gives to the trustee. You want to legally claim standing as executor -and- beneficiary of the trust.

Regarding the letter prefix I mentioned, the letter prefix on the number on the back of the SS card. I've read that it denotes which Fed branch holds the bond associated with the COLB, linked to the SS# account. I misspoke sorry. That'll teach me to write this stuff purely from memory without double-checking. What is the letter prefix on the back of the SS card? Mine is "B", which according to this video
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is the NY Fed. Does your letter correspond to that list? Also good to note that video has routing numbers for the various Fed branches.
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I did as one of the YT videos said.

I went to this gov link:

[link to www.treasurydirect.gov (secure)]

I think some of the younger people will have EE bonds and the older will have an E bond. You have to try both I suppose.

Denomination drop box you pick 10,000

Bond serial Number will be the number on your birth certificate....mine was in red in the lower left hand corner.

Issue date would be the month of your birth and the year of your birth. Like if you were born on May 4, 19999 then you would put it in as 5/1999.

Mine came up as an E bond. It showed an "issue price" of $7,500. Then it says the interest on the bond was $63,000

I looked at my SS statement and it showed I had paid about that much into SS. So I think the interest is the amount you have paid into SS minus a few thousand to pay for their costs to maintain the account.....just a guess.

The funny think is my employers matched what I paid SS but it isn't on the bond. I wonder what happened to that money? I suppose the money I paid into SS had interest that they took out of the account although it does not show it.

Also it said my bond had "matured" in the 1990's which means it was a 40 year bond.
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Additionally, the ss bond number is an EIN as opposed to a valid ssn. Look up use in black's. It speaks of use as EMPLOYing things.

EMPLOYer identification number.
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I tried to explain my understanding of this in a previous post. US Citizens are, in fact, all federal employees by way of voluntarily paying the interest (aka income tax) on debt accrued by the federal government (aka public debt).

Wouldn't the SS# be the EIN and the account number and the number on the back of the card indicate the location of the linked bond?
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A thread was deleted earlier. Some of you had seen it I'm sure.

research: "Bureau of Public Debt" - it has the US treasury routing number

Lot's of interesting information here.
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I screenshot it. Not sure if it works or not, but good to have it.
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Cluck,
I thought about your 'address' posts. Is a routing number not an address? A routing number is an address through SWIFT to a bank.

Thinking about the SS issue, if the SS# (minus dashes) is an account number (which makes complete sense since it's an individual identifier), could the red number be the address/ROUTING NUMBER of the account? Seems it would be easy enough to test if the red number is a routing number by setting up a payment account on a credit card account or other routing number verifying service and see if it accepts it or even identifies the bank. Routing numbers are 9 digit numbers.

On the same note, the lettered prefix on a COLB red number denotes the Fed bank that holds the bond issued from the COLB. The Fed website (iirc) tells us which branch bank that is and it's easy to find the associated routing number for that branch through the Fed website. Mine is the NY Fed. The rest of the number is a CUSIP for the issued bond?

Thoughts? This might be much more simple than realized.

I have further thoughts that I must organize but banking is banking! It's actually NOT rocket science though they try to make it sound like it is. The bond exists, it is what the Fed takes from Treas and fills the trust account with FRN in exchange.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


I have tried the bond number as a routing number. It was not recognized. I do not have a letter on the BC bond number.

You are correct. The profundity of this lies within its simplicity. It's the 180 degree turn in thinking that is the difficult part.

My address change with SSA worked. Flat out. Things got SUPER weird the week after I sent it in. I received an "invitation" via text. Invitation is about use of property. It's my thinking that I need to accept the property (the title), add the new address, pay it over, and send it in.
 Quoting: Cluck


Can you explain what you did, regarding SS address change? I'm not clear what you mean by that.


I do think that this process starts with filing the UCC-1 for the COLB with the issuing authority (state SecState) and notifying the Treasury. Until that is done, we have no legal standing to act as executor of any estate property. We only have standing to act as beneficiary (or on occasion like traffic court, as trustee when duped into it) and receive "benefits" as the executor (govt) sees fit. In legal terms, acting as executor, without establishing proper standing to do so, is "executor de son tort" and is illegal.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
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What, specifically, does all this do to actually provide measurable benefit to you?
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Still in the process of determining that. Should be pretty juicy, I would think.
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I did as one of the YT videos said.

I went to this gov link:

[link to www.treasurydirect.gov (secure)]

I think some of the younger people will have EE bonds and the older will have an E bond. You have to try both I suppose.

Denomination drop box you pick 10,000

Bond serial Number will be the number on your birth certificate....mine was in red in the lower left hand corner.

Issue date would be the month of your birth and the year of your birth. Like if you were born on May 4, 19999 then you would put it in as 5/1999.

Mine came up as an E bond. It showed an "issue price" of $7,500. Then it says the interest on the bond was $63,000

I looked at my SS statement and it showed I had paid about that much into SS. So I think the interest is the amount you have paid into SS minus a few thousand to pay for their costs to maintain the account.....just a guess.

The funny think is my employers matched what I paid SS but it isn't on the bond. I wonder what happened to that money? I suppose the money I paid into SS had interest that they took out of the account although it does not show it.

Also it said my bond had "matured" in the 1990's which means it was a 40 year bond.
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I don't believe any of that to be true and real, but that doesn't mean I'm correct.
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Additionally, the ss bond number is an EIN as opposed to a valid ssn. Look up use in black's. It speaks of use as EMPLOYing things.

EMPLOYer identification number.
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I tried to explain my understanding of this in a previous post. US Citizens are, in fact, all federal employees by way of voluntarily paying the interest (aka income tax) on debt accrued by the federal government (aka public debt).

Wouldn't the SS# be the EIN and the account number and the number on the back of the card indicate the location of the linked bond?
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ABSOLUTELY, we are employees of the federal government. Without question. I do believe that in certain circumstances it is possible the ssn can function as an EIN. Since the bond number is an address, yes, that definitely makes sense, but it is also an employer identification number. Why? Because we can EMPLOY it.

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