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Cluck,
I thought about your 'address' posts. Is a routing number not an address? A routing number is an address through SWIFT to a bank.

Thinking about the SS issue, if the SS# (minus dashes) is an account number (which makes complete sense since it's an individual identifier), could the red number be the address/ROUTING NUMBER of the account? Seems it would be easy enough to test if the red number is a routing number by setting up a payment account on a credit card account or other routing number verifying service and see if it accepts it or even identifies the bank. Routing numbers are 9 digit numbers.

On the same note, the lettered prefix on a COLB red number denotes the Fed bank that holds the bond issued from the COLB. The Fed website (iirc) tells us which branch bank that is and it's easy to find the associated routing number for that branch through the Fed website. Mine is the NY Fed. The rest of the number is a CUSIP for the issued bond?

Thoughts? This might be much more simple than realized.

I have further thoughts that I must organize but banking is banking! It's actually NOT rocket science though they try to make it sound like it is. The bond exists, it is what the Fed takes from Treas and fills the trust account with FRN in exchange.
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I have tried the bond number as a routing number. It was not recognized. I do not have a letter on the BC bond number.

You are correct. The profundity of this lies within its simplicity. It's the 180 degree turn in thinking that is the difficult part.

My address change with SSA worked. Flat out. Things got SUPER weird the week after I sent it in. I received an "invitation" via text. Invitation is about use of property. It's my thinking that I need to accept the property (the title), add the new address, pay it over, and send it in.
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Can you explain what you did, regarding SS address change? I'm not clear what you mean by that.


I do think that this process starts with filing the UCC-1 for the COLB with the issuing authority (state SecState) and notifying the Treasury. Until that is done, we have no legal standing to act as executor of any estate property. We only have standing to act as beneficiary (or on occasion like traffic court, as trustee when duped into it) and receive "benefits" as the executor (govt) sees fit. In legal terms, acting as executor, without establishing proper standing to do so, is "executor de son tort" and is illegal.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
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I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
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Nevermind, I see the 051 number is the Richmond Fed routing number. So SSA wanted you to identify name and address as the Richmond Fed? That makes sense considering what I mentioned before that bills addressed to the strawman should be going to whoever holds the strawman instead of to the living man.
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What, specifically, does all this do to actually provide measurable benefit to you?
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Don't you like puzzles? I like puzzles. After a while, doing 2000 piece puzzles picture-side-down gets boring lol.

But seriously, there's not many of us but there are some of us that have, on our own, developed the intelligence, maturity, discipline and competence to handle our own affairs instead of being treated as incompetent beasts for life. I know who I am and why I am here. I also understand why the system is in place since most people are not prepared to truly handle their own affairs and they remind us of it daily.
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I have tried the bond number as a routing number. It was not recognized. I do not have a letter on the BC bond number.

You are correct. The profundity of this lies within its simplicity. It's the 180 degree turn in thinking that is the difficult part.

My address change with SSA worked. Flat out. Things got SUPER weird the week after I sent it in. I received an "invitation" via text. Invitation is about use of property. It's my thinking that I need to accept the property (the title), add the new address, pay it over, and send it in.
 Quoting: Cluck


Can you explain what you did, regarding SS address change? I'm not clear what you mean by that.


I do think that this process starts with filing the UCC-1 for the COLB with the issuing authority (state SecState) and notifying the Treasury. Until that is done, we have no legal standing to act as executor of any estate property. We only have standing to act as beneficiary (or on occasion like traffic court, as trustee when duped into it) and receive "benefits" as the executor (govt) sees fit. In legal terms, acting as executor, without establishing proper standing to do so, is "executor de son tort" and is illegal.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
 Quoting: Cluck


I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
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Correct.
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Cluck, I followed the procedure you suggested and started using the number. I used it on a job application, loan application and prepaid debit application. No success yet. I am guessing that enough time has not passed for number to be registered with the credit bureaus. Do you have any suggestions? What is the fastest way to get positive confirmation?

Thanks hf
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Was checking in for my flight earlier. My name was presented as "Firstmiddle l." on the choose your seat screen.

In that same format. Last name had ONLY the initial. Suffice it to say...I didn't do that.
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hey cluck, its the check number put on to the end of the red number, correct?

Not the "check sum number" right?

just making sure I got it correct. will report on the results.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


Correct.
 Quoting: Cluck


Cluck, I followed the procedure you suggested and started using the number. I used it on a job application, loan application and prepaid debit application. No success yet. I am guessing that enough time has not passed for number to be registered with the credit bureaus. Do you have any suggestions? What is the fastest way to get positive confirmation?

Thanks hf
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It will not work for employers who everify. It is not a valid ssn so you will not show up as a us citizen. You will have to aggressively use the number so it can establish itself in various computer systems, credit bureaus, etc. I don't really know that there is a "fastest way". Use, use, use, and use again. Do what you think is right. Follow your gut. Not someone else's.
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Can you explain what you did, regarding SS address change? I'm not clear what you mean by that.


I do think that this process starts with filing the UCC-1 for the COLB with the issuing authority (state SecState) and notifying the Treasury. Until that is done, we have no legal standing to act as executor of any estate property. We only have standing to act as beneficiary (or on occasion like traffic court, as trustee when duped into it) and receive "benefits" as the executor (govt) sees fit. In legal terms, acting as executor, without establishing proper standing to do so, is "executor de son tort" and is illegal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
 Quoting: Cluck


I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
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My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
 Quoting: Cluck


Aren't courts of equity merely courts for administering commercial contracts such as business agreements and trusts? For example, when someone is summoned to traffic court, they are summoned to an equity court based on violation of a contract (Motor Vehicle Code). To my knowledge, the entire system we are talking about is commercial equity. It's all commerce...

Refer to UCC 1-103:
"(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code, the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions."

This seems to be saying that commercial UCC and equity are not separate. Do you agree? I guess I can't see how one can legally obtain access to trusts, set up under UCC, without submitting to UCC jurisdiction and going through the UCC to do it. Involving oneself in the workings of a trust without establishing legal standing to do so is illegal.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
 Quoting: Cluck


I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
 Quoting: Cluck


Aren't courts of equity merely courts for administering commercial contracts such as business agreements and trusts? For example, when someone is summoned to traffic court, they are summoned to an equity court based on violation of a contract (Motor Vehicle Code). To my knowledge, the entire system we are talking about is commercial equity. It's all commerce...

Refer to UCC 1-103:
"(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code, the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions."

This seems to be saying that commercial UCC and equity are not separate. Do you agree? I guess I can't see how one can legally obtain access to trusts, set up under UCC, without submitting to UCC jurisdiction and going through the UCC to do it. Involving oneself in the workings of a trust without establishing legal standing to do so is illegal.
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You can find yourself in traffic court even without having consented to the code (no license/reg/plates/ins). There is obviously something that predisposes you to the code....my guess is the SSN.

As for ucc 1-103...the last time i used a lawyer (many years ago), I brought that up and his whole attitude changed.
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I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
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My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
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Aren't courts of equity merely courts for administering commercial contracts such as business agreements and trusts? For example, when someone is summoned to traffic court, they are summoned to an equity court based on violation of a contract (Motor Vehicle Code). To my knowledge, the entire system we are talking about is commercial equity. It's all commerce...

Refer to UCC 1-103:
"(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code, the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions."

This seems to be saying that commercial UCC and equity are not separate. Do you agree? I guess I can't see how one can legally obtain access to trusts, set up under UCC, without submitting to UCC jurisdiction and going through the UCC to do it. Involving oneself in the workings of a trust without establishing legal standing to do so is illegal.
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You can find yourself in traffic court even without having consented to the code (no license/reg/plates/ins). There is obviously something that predisposes you to the code....my guess is the SSN.

As for ucc 1-103...the last time i used a lawyer (many years ago), I brought that up and his whole attitude changed.
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UCC regulates contracts in all jurisdictions. The Constitution states "the power of the people to contract shall be unlimited..."

Contracts are valid law no matter the jurisdiction.

The fact is, they allow one to be one of the "people" when they need your consent to act on you.

You may not have a "drivers license" but when you go to the commercial court, you SIGN IN, that is a blank endorsement, it is a CONTRACT, so the UCC applies because the contract is put into place by you signing in.

Same goes for any administrative court or jurisdiction.

Another nexus is the Federal Reserve FIAT money scam, you use Federal Reserve Notes for any reason and you are contracting to assume the debt the notes represent.

You can control your contracts by knowing how to effectively secure your rights or sign them away with your unlimited power to contract.

That is a very important principle to learn.

You can then use the UCC against THEM, because no matter what jurisdiction they claim, its still governed by contract, consent or habeas corpus.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
 Quoting: Cluck


I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
 Quoting: Cluck


Aren't courts of equity merely courts for administering commercial contracts such as business agreements and trusts? For example, when someone is summoned to traffic court, they are summoned to an equity court based on violation of a contract (Motor Vehicle Code). To my knowledge, the entire system we are talking about is commercial equity. It's all commerce...

Refer to UCC 1-103:
"(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code, the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions."

This seems to be saying that commercial UCC and equity are not separate. Do you agree? I guess I can't see how one can legally obtain access to trusts, set up under UCC, without submitting to UCC jurisdiction and going through the UCC to do it. Involving oneself in the workings of a trust without establishing legal standing to do so is illegal.
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Just off the cuff, I'd say that equity trumps commercial. Equity doesn't need admiralty's permission to do jack sh*t. I would stop being concerned with what is legal and start being concerned with what is lawful.
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
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Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
 Quoting: Cluck


Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
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Not sure.

Dunno.

I don't think they change anything on the BC unless you specifically write and ask them to. I'm not 100% sure, though.
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I started sending documentation to a regional ssa office with E12345678 on it. They sent back a change of address form. Very weird with typos, odd capitalization, etc. Eventually, I realized they wanted me to write my name in the "name,address" box with the address. Meaning 051000033 123456789, where 123456789 is the red number plus the check digit.

I do not believe in filing UCC-1s. Yes, executor de son tort is what we are functioning as in the public. Haven't heard that phrase in a while. Yes, we are everything...executor, beneficiary, etc.
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I think I comprehend what you mean about the address. Instead of using the strawman name and the federal postal address. What is the 051 number from? Looks like a bank routing number.

The whole system is based in UCC (originated from ecclesiastic Vatican law), so why wouldn't the UCC-1 be used as part of the process? By acting as executor de son tort we are acting illegally. Claiming legal executor standing would be a priority instead of continuing to act illegally, yes? Since we did not create the trust, we are not trustee nor are we executor. We are only beneficiary. We should seek to administer the trust, as executor, and receive the benefits as beneficiary. In order to operate legally we must establish legal standing as rightful executor.

I bet those that ended up in jail messing with this stuff did not establish legal standing as executor of the "dead person" estate and were operating illegally as executor de son tort. I think the UCC-1 creates proper standing since it establishes our overstanding as an administrator (executor) of the strawman/accounts instead of solely being controlled by the strawman/accounts as a beneficiary. Iow, the strawman becomes a debtor to us instead of us being the surety for the strawman.

Is "E" your letter prefix on back of SS card? If so, Richmond Fed.
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My problem with the ucc1 is that it's commercial. I focus on equity. The SS bond number is equity all the way, as far as I can tell, anyway. Given the weirdness it stirs up that seems to be correct. I don't think the Secretary of State is the one leaving things at my doorstep. Lol. Not to mention the fact that every single freaking time I have tried to file a ucc1 the SOS simply won't let it go through. I've tried I think 4 times in various states and it doesn't work. I take that as an omen to not worry about it. I want to be as organic as possible and not force things. Thus far it has worked out pretty well.

I would put forward that we DO create the trust when we place our footprints on the birth record. The child is the grantor. The man is the beneficiary. We are also executor. The footprints are the authorization for the establishment of the trust. We can function in any office we like according to whatever will serve us best in the moment. FYI...I don't think we want legal standing. That's commerce. Be careful mixing commerce and equity. At the end of the day, though, you should do whatever you think best to do.
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Aren't courts of equity merely courts for administering commercial contracts such as business agreements and trusts? For example, when someone is summoned to traffic court, they are summoned to an equity court based on violation of a contract (Motor Vehicle Code). To my knowledge, the entire system we are talking about is commercial equity. It's all commerce...

Refer to UCC 1-103:
"(b) Unless displaced by the particular provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code, the principles of law and equity, including the law merchant and the law relative to capacity to contract, principal and agent, estoppel, fraud, misrepresentation, duress, coercion, mistake, bankruptcy, and other validating or invalidating cause supplement its provisions."

This seems to be saying that commercial UCC and equity are not separate. Do you agree? I guess I can't see how one can legally obtain access to trusts, set up under UCC, without submitting to UCC jurisdiction and going through the UCC to do it. Involving oneself in the workings of a trust without establishing legal standing to do so is illegal.
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Not at all. There are attorneys that will tell you that equity jurisdiction doesn't even exist. The definition of equity in Black's is, essentially, the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That's nowhere in commercialism. Commercialism is "If I can get by with bending you over I will and you'll probably never know what happened." There is a type of equity that exists in commercialism, for example, that which is the difference between what is "owed" on a mortgage and the value of the property. That word is thrown around a lot in the PUBLIC system, but it's meaning is not what you want it to be.

I do see what you mean with your last point, but it shows that your mindset is still that of a commercial slave and I don't mean that in a sh*tty way at all. Just FYI, going around using things as SSNs that aren't actually SSNs is also illegal. LOL. In the case of the red number it is "unassailable fraud". It is "unassailable" because the number is under equity jurisdiction, not admiralty. Equity jurisdiction trumps admiralty jurisdiction. Period. Which is why it also functions as an enforcement badge number. I could care less what UCC says because I'm not under that jurisdiction.

Think about QEII. No "legal" proceedings can take place in her residences. She needs no passport because they are all issued in her name. Why? They're contracts and she doesn't bother with contracts She is under equity jurisdiction because her address is "Her Majesty". The address is a big part of the problem.
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JOHN QUINCY DOE
123 MAIN ST.
ANYTOWN, USA 12345

^^Admiralty^^

John Quincy Doe
051000033 123456789
(where 051000033 is the Fed routing number corresponding to the letter)

^^Equity^^
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Thank you to all that have contributed to this thread.
It's all been very informative.

I wanted to share what I recently found...
SSN = TRUST I.D. #
The de jure governor of Colorado state, Eric Madsen, asserts
that nowhere in the Social Security Act does the SSN attach
to a natural-born individual. Instead he asserts, it’s a trust
account number for a trust established in the trustee “name”
you’re given at birth except that it’s ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
(e.g., on your birth certificate). Social security insurance is a
constructive trust with the Social Security Administration as
the Creators.
TRUST NAME = JOHNNY LIBERTY
TRUSTEE = Johnny Liberty
Therefore, Form 1041 would be the appropriate tax form for
those Americans who volunteer as taxpayers, not the Form
1040 as we’re told. This is a very interesting theory and Mr.
Madsen has been effectively testing it for a number of years.

Maybe it will help...
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Thank you to all that have contributed to this thread.
It's all been very informative.

I wanted to share what I recently found...
SSN = TRUST I.D. #
The de jure governor of Colorado state, Eric Madsen, asserts
that nowhere in the Social Security Act does the SSN attach
to a natural-born individual. Instead he asserts, it’s a trust
account number for a trust established in the trustee “name”
you’re given at birth except that it’s ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
(e.g., on your birth certificate). Social security insurance is a
constructive trust with the Social Security Administration as
the Creators.
TRUST NAME = JOHNNY LIBERTY
TRUSTEE = Johnny Liberty
Therefore, Form 1041 would be the appropriate tax form for
those Americans who volunteer as taxpayers, not the Form
1040 as we’re told. This is a very interesting theory and Mr.
Madsen has been effectively testing it for a number of years.

Maybe it will help...
 Quoting: SunshineRay


I really don't get why anyone would volunteer to pay income taxes. I guess if someone does then 1041 would make sense. I assume Mr. Madsen is getting cash back. HA!

Yes, the SSN is a trust account number. Additionally, I would qualify "trustee" as "executor". An executor is a type of trustee, but a trustee is is not necessarily an executor. It is correct that it doesn't attach to a natural born individual, but it probably needs to in order for it to do the job that it was intended to do. Hence, the gentleman who changed his name then conveyed the SSN to it and the police calling him saying that he could retrieve the property they seized a couple of years earlier. This is all part of the heir coming forward to claim the inheritance.

What's the very first thing that happens when a monarch accedes the throne? A name change.
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
 Quoting: Cluck


Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73602256


Additionally, I'm not sure it matters if the title on the BC was originally in all caps or not. It's how it is used everywhere, regardless. That's what makes it the real stickler.
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There's nothing in this life for free, you delusional fucking idiot!
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Get a fucking job!
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There's nothing in this life for free, you delusional fucking idiot!
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Absolutely correct, which is why you need to "pay" the certificate over.

It is...immaterial, at best, whether or not you agree with me.
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
 Quoting: Cluck


Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73602256


Additionally, I'm not sure it matters if the title on the BC was originally in all caps or not. It's how it is used everywhere, regardless. That's what makes it the real stickler.
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...think I've seen you on commenting on another site of a similar topic...
...think another that you may have conversed with there is the same that owns a site related to this genre, with a section that specifically mentions name change
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Very interesting movement among my mates and I.

One of my mates legally changed her name from all caps to mixed caps. She then took the name change decree to an SSA office and they added the docket number to her SS account. She then asked them to convey the SSN to the new name and they happily and readily agreed. In the past few days she has had 3 felonies disappear. Also, another dude followed this method. After visiting the SS office to add the information, two hours later the state police called him and told him to come pick up the property they had seized 2 years prior. A car and some other stuff. Fantastic!!!!

I am doing the same thing, but I have to do it through the private because I'm accomplishing it with the red number.

I really, really hope everyone is reading and taking notes. Seriously...
 Quoting: Cluck


Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73602256


Additionally, I'm not sure it matters if the title on the BC was originally in all caps or not. It's how it is used everywhere, regardless. That's what makes it the real stickler.
 Quoting: Cluck


...think I've seen you on commenting on another site of a similar topic...
...think another that you may have conversed with there is the same that owns a site related to this genre, with a section that specifically mentions name change
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73891163


Would you care to elaborate? Perhaps the other is, indeed, you?
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Was the name on the BC in all caps prior?

If so, Was a new BC issued?
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Additionally, I'm not sure it matters if the title on the BC was originally in all caps or not. It's how it is used everywhere, regardless. That's what makes it the real stickler.
 Quoting: Cluck


...think I've seen you on commenting on another site of a similar topic...
...think another that you may have conversed with there is the same that owns a site related to this genre, with a section that specifically mentions name change
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73891163


Would you care to elaborate? Perhaps the other is, indeed, you?
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No, not me.
I can't find the link to the site at, but it was about the BC not being a bond.
tj may be the owner of Mead Levity Men site...either way, you may have interest in the notations section
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Additionally, I'm not sure it matters if the title on the BC was originally in all caps or not. It's how it is used everywhere, regardless. That's what makes it the real stickler.
 Quoting: Cluck


...think I've seen you on commenting on another site of a similar topic...
...think another that you may have conversed with there is the same that owns a site related to this genre, with a section that specifically mentions name change
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73891163


Would you care to elaborate? Perhaps the other is, indeed, you?
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No, not me.
I can't find the link to the site at, but it was about the BC not being a bond.
tj may be the owner of Mead Levity Men site...either way, you may have interest in the notations section
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Oh, yes. TJ. Cool. Thanks. I was thinking he is on here, also.
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...think I've seen you on commenting on another site of a similar topic...
...think another that you may have conversed with there is the same that owns a site related to this genre, with a section that specifically mentions name change
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Would you care to elaborate? Perhaps the other is, indeed, you?
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No, not me.
I can't find the link to the site at, but it was about the BC not being a bond.
tj may be the owner of Mead Levity Men site...either way, you may have interest in the notations section
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Oh, yes. TJ. Cool. Thanks. I was thinking he is on here, also.
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I'm sure he is. Check out his site
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Would you care to elaborate? Perhaps the other is, indeed, you?
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No, not me.
I can't find the link to the site at, but it was about the BC not being a bond.
tj may be the owner of Mead Levity Men site...either way, you may have interest in the notations section
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Oh, yes. TJ. Cool. Thanks. I was thinking he is on here, also.
 Quoting: Cluck


I'm sure he is. Check out his site
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73575218


Oh, mead levity men is a different TJ, I think.
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You can appoint yourself as executor by creating a will.
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You can appoint yourself as executor by creating a will.
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It doesn't seem like you need to as you are holding the BC...certificate of beneficial interest.
You can find PDFs of David Clarence's executor letter and detailed explanation online from back in 2012/2013. The version I have is over 50pages
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You can appoint yourself as executor by creating a will.
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It doesn't seem like you need to as you are holding the BC...certificate of beneficial interest.
You can find PDFs of David Clarence's executor letter and detailed explanation online from back in 2012/2013. The version I have is over 50pages
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Creating a will appoints the executors of your estates after you die but you can appoint yourself while your alive just an easier way to do it.


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