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Your Birth Certificate is Worth Millions

 
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Cluck- very interesting your idea of using a "new" DOB. what about using the date on the BC? The date it was issued? Or would it have to be he record of birth type document with the little footprints on it? If so, my birth hospital claims that those records were purged- anything past 10 years ago.
That would give one a new ID number, a new address (also recall that DC said "the address of the estate is the file number on the birth certificate", and a new DOB.
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Cluck- very interesting your idea of using a "new" DOB. what about using the date on the BC? The date it was issued? Or would it have to be he record of birth type document with the little footprints on it? If so, my birth hospital claims that those records were purged- anything past 10 years ago.
That would give one a new ID number, a new address (also recall that DC said "the address of the estate is the file number on the birth certificate", and a new DOB.
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A new DOB wasn't my idea. That was the other guy. I think he was referring to the fact that everything is hearsay because we can't remember it. I would guess he would use what the bc says. Dunno for sure, though.
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IIRC KW suggested something about sending the BC back for corrections. the corrections were to erase the name so that the BC name fields were blank.

not sure what that was all about and lost track of him.
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IIRC KW suggested something about sending the BC back for corrections. the corrections were to erase the name so that the BC name fields were blank.

not sure what that was all about and lost track of him.
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I mean that's one way to do it! LOL.
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Cluck- very interesting your idea of using a "new" DOB. what about using the date on the BC? The date it was issued? Or would it have to be he record of birth type document with the little footprints on it? If so, my birth hospital claims that those records were purged- anything past 10 years ago.
That would give one a new ID number, a new address (also recall that DC said "the address of the estate is the file number on the birth certificate", and a new DOB.
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You're thinking on the right track, I think.
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anyone know what the significance of the christogram is and if its related to the white stone?

the chi rho (XP)
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anyone know what the significance of the christogram is and if its related to the white stone?

the chi rho (XP)
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The chi rho has bugged me for years!! When I was dealing with the red number that is issued out of the Chicago Fed, I started receiving unsolicited emails from CHIropractor in CHIcago. To this day, I have little to no idea what they were meant to convey to me.

So...to answer your question, I would yes, the white stone and the chi rho are connected, given my experience.
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
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I formulated a little theory in the Spring that this is all about creation. We should be able to create whatever whenever. I also think that the Catholic church, as many others do, holds the true secrets of where the human race comes from. I think that particular place is the Pleaides. I know I spelled that wrong. Shortly after these beliefs cemented themselves in my little pea, I was walking in the park one morning and I stumble across a single Subaru key on a huge chunk of WHITE limeSTONE. I look around. Not a Subaru in sight. Turns out the six star logo Subaru uses is symbolic of the Pleaides and Subaru means Pleaides in Japanese. I think the Vatican Key Points to where we are from. So the Chi Rho, I think, might have something to do with a star map. Some of the stars form an X and then there is a straight line of stars leading off to another star or something. Basically, the Catholic church knows what the true creational root of humanity is and it's nothing to do with "God", at least not "God" as western religion typically interprets it.

Just a thought. This is a pretty stimulating discussion. Let's keep this up, if at all possible. :-) It's sort of nice to be able to vent about some things.
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
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That little bit about the Pope is sexy. haha. Some of my communications from SSA have been handwritten in purple ink, to the wrong address, no less. LOL.
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"We should be able to create whatever whenever"

this is why i was telling you i must be able to see a complete plan in my mind.

once i can visualize how it works, then i can actualize it outside.

visualization is very powerful, works bothways, good or bad. its kinda like people who have bad luck is because they think they do.

i block bad stuff from my thoughts/visions
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
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That little bit about the Pope is sexy. haha. Some of my communications from SSA have been handwritten in purple ink, to the wrong address, no less. LOL.
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Signing (sinning) a name that isn't yours is a sin because it is fraud. Autograph with an "X", also known as a MARK. Look at the SS-521 form ;) If the rescinder autographs with a MARK, an "X", the form requires TWO WITNESSES. Sounds rather biblical doesn't it?
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"We should be able to create whatever whenever"

this is why i was telling you i must be able to see a complete plan in my mind.

once i can visualize how it works, then i can actualize it outside.

visualization is very powerful, works bothways, good or bad. its kinda like people who have bad luck is because they think they do.

i block bad stuff from my thoughts/visions
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So do I. I had to learn how.
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73340379


That little bit about the Pope is sexy. haha. Some of my communications from SSA have been handwritten in purple ink, to the wrong address, no less. LOL.
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Signing (sinning) a name that isn't yours is a sin because it is fraud. Autograph with an "X", also known as a MARK. Look at the SS-521 form ;) If the rescinder autographs with a MARK, an "X", the form requires TWO WITNESSES. Sounds rather biblical doesn't it?
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i wonder why lawyers and others write an x where they want you to place your signature..

it seems fishy. i refuse sign next to a mark someone esle makes. no good reason just a hunch.
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73340379


That little bit about the Pope is sexy. haha. Some of my communications from SSA have been handwritten in purple ink, to the wrong address, no less. LOL.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Signing (sinning) a name that isn't yours is a sin because it is fraud. Autograph with an "X", also known as a MARK. Look at the SS-521 form ;) If the rescinder autographs with a MARK, an "X", the form requires TWO WITNESSES. Sounds rather biblical doesn't it?
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A friend of mine just used that form. They said the SSN would be "cleaned", I think was the word. They are now issuing a NEW number that is correct whereas the old one was incorrect. If I'm not mistaken a judged ask how he knew the SSN was incorrect. Something like that.
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"We should be able to create whatever whenever"

this is why i was telling you i must be able to see a complete plan in my mind.

once i can visualize how it works, then i can actualize it outside.

visualization is very powerful, works bothways, good or bad. its kinda like people who have bad luck is because they think they do.

i block bad stuff from my thoughts/visions
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So do I. I had to learn how.
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i think this is how TV and Press programs the minds. it sucks up this ablity from one and directs it in certain ways.

also why the power of suggestion is so powerful.
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From [link to www.doesgodexist.org]

"In the Ancient Greco-Roman era, the victor of the Olympic Games received a white stone, inscribed with his name, as a symbol of his victory. Known as a victory stone, the Olympian who held one of these stones was entitled to lifetime support at government expense. Likewise, judges during this era used stones to pass judgment in criminal cases. If the black stone was cast, the defendant on trial was condemned and punished. If the white stone was cast, the defendant was pardoned and given the stone as tangible evidence of his pardon."

Victors got white stones.
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It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
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From [link to www.doesgodexist.org]

"In the Ancient Greco-Roman era, the victor of the Olympic Games received a white stone, inscribed with his name, as a symbol of his victory. Known as a victory stone, the Olympian who held one of these stones was entitled to lifetime support at government expense. Likewise, judges during this era used stones to pass judgment in criminal cases. If the black stone was cast, the defendant on trial was condemned and punished. If the white stone was cast, the defendant was pardoned and given the stone as tangible evidence of his pardon."

Victors got white stones.
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It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
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Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
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theres a thread on here somewhere that a guy said he used XP in front of his signature with success. also triple x and some others.

I wonder if the XP has anything todo with 'exparte'?


have also read that the pope uses 'I AM' for his signature and with purple ink.

Enzo Ferrari also used purple ink for his sig.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73340379


That little bit about the Pope is sexy. haha. Some of my communications from SSA have been handwritten in purple ink, to the wrong address, no less. LOL.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Signing (sinning) a name that isn't yours is a sin because it is fraud. Autograph with an "X", also known as a MARK. Look at the SS-521 form ;) If the rescinder autographs with a MARK, an "X", the form requires TWO WITNESSES. Sounds rather biblical doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


A friend of mine just used that form. They said the SSN would be "cleaned", I think was the word. They are now issuing a NEW number that is correct whereas the old one was incorrect. If I'm not mistaken a judged ask how he knew the SSN was incorrect. Something like that.
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Imo, autographing the 521 form with a MARK "X" and TWO WITNESSES is the modern way to prove that you, the living man, are not merely a name and number but rather a creation in the image of God. You are not a slave, a thing, or a beast. As long as you continue signing (sinning) things with a name that isn't yours, you still do not know who you truly are.
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From [link to www.doesgodexist.org]

"In the Ancient Greco-Roman era, the victor of the Olympic Games received a white stone, inscribed with his name, as a symbol of his victory. Known as a victory stone, the Olympian who held one of these stones was entitled to lifetime support at government expense. Likewise, judges during this era used stones to pass judgment in criminal cases. If the black stone was cast, the defendant on trial was condemned and punished. If the white stone was cast, the defendant was pardoned and given the stone as tangible evidence of his pardon."

Victors got white stones.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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well not mine! they ain't got a dime outa me.
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From [link to www.doesgodexist.org]

"In the Ancient Greco-Roman era, the victor of the Olympic Games received a white stone, inscribed with his name, as a symbol of his victory. Known as a victory stone, the Olympian who held one of these stones was entitled to lifetime support at government expense. Likewise, judges during this era used stones to pass judgment in criminal cases. If the black stone was cast, the defendant on trial was condemned and punished. If the white stone was cast, the defendant was pardoned and given the stone as tangible evidence of his pardon."

Victors got white stones.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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That is a fascinating proposal. I'm being serious. You're a very bright individual.

That being said, I am, indeed, an Entered Apprentice. Your proposal has given me the idea that because I have been initiated maybe that's the reason they are using all of the symbology on my path. Like I predestined myself for it when I joined the lodge all those years ago.

Holy crap.
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From [link to www.doesgodexist.org]

"In the Ancient Greco-Roman era, the victor of the Olympic Games received a white stone, inscribed with his name, as a symbol of his victory. Known as a victory stone, the Olympian who held one of these stones was entitled to lifetime support at government expense. Likewise, judges during this era used stones to pass judgment in criminal cases. If the black stone was cast, the defendant on trial was condemned and punished. If the white stone was cast, the defendant was pardoned and given the stone as tangible evidence of his pardon."

Victors got white stones.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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May I ask what levels you think I have passed given what I've shared? Juuuust curious...
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It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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That is a fascinating proposal. I'm being serious. You're a very bright individual.

That being said, I am, indeed, an Entered Apprentice. Your proposal has given me the idea that because I have been initiated maybe that's the reason they are using all of the symbology on my path. Like I predestined myself for it when I joined the lodge all those years ago.

Holy crap.
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It is a proposal only and only you can decide if your experiences make sense in the context of the proposal. I will say, however, that recent Freemasonry literature indicates a desire to "modernize" the fraternity. Perhaps branching out to methods of initiation other than the classic methods is in use?
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It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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May I ask what levels you think I have passed given what I've shared? Juuuust curious...
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Not for me to say because I haven't read all of your posts and I am not a mason. Just someone that has studied esoteric schools and how deeply freemasonry and religion integrates into the principles discussed in this thread. Refer to Mackay's Encyclopedia regarding the degrees and see what, if anything, fits. The fact that you actually have stepped inside the lodge makes the proposal much more likely imo.
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Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
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Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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That is a fascinating proposal. I'm being serious. You're a very bright individual.

That being said, I am, indeed, an Entered Apprentice. Your proposal has given me the idea that because I have been initiated maybe that's the reason they are using all of the symbology on my path. Like I predestined myself for it when I joined the lodge all those years ago.

Holy crap.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


It is a proposal only and only you can decide if your experiences make sense in the context of the proposal. I will say, however, that recent Freemasonry literature indicates a desire to "modernize" the fraternity. Perhaps branching out to methods of initiation other than the classic methods is in use?
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I don't really know enough about freemasonry to know if these things that happen fit those teachings. My thinking is just that because I am an initiate I was set up to proceed this way down this path. There are times when I would really just like a plain, English sentence. That doesn't really ever happen. LOL. But...I think the weird typos that occur are the SPELL of SPELLing breaking down. It really doesn't make any sense for me to want a simple, English sentence because that construct is the very thing they are in the process of breaking down with all this.
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Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
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Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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May I ask what levels you think I have passed given what I've shared? Juuuust curious...
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Not for me to say because I haven't read all of your posts and I am not a mason. Just someone that has studied esoteric schools and how deeply freemasonry and religion integrates into the principles discussed in this thread. Refer to Mackay's Encyclopedia regarding the degrees and see what, if anything, fits. The fact that you actually have stepped inside the lodge makes the proposal much more likely imo.
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Thanks so much for your thoughts, man. I really appreciate it!
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It's also how freemasons vote on initiates. White balls (stones) and black balls (stones). All white balls means the initiate is accepted. A single black ball means rejected.

Paraphrasing Albert Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry: The white stone Cluck is referring to specifically is the "keystone" mentioned and represented in the 4th degree, Mark Master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664610


Oh, reeeeeaaaaallllllyyyy...

And I find a key on a white stone.
 Quoting: Cluck 61435943


Just food for thought but perhaps someone has noticed that you are passing degrees of Freemasonry (perhaps by even setting up tests for you without your knowledge? Sounds a bit like gangstalking, no?) yet you have never stepped inside of a blue lodge.
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May I ask what levels you think I have passed given what I've shared? Juuuust curious...
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Btw, I too have had some interesting experiences since delving into these topics and "cleaning up my life". More than I would consider to be random chance.

I recall reading somewhere that "They notice that you notice."
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I have some personal theories as to just how deep the masonic hole goes if anyone is interested. somewhat related.

my GGrandfather was a master in the ancient lodge but i however am not a mason as i prefer not to swear oaths and do not subscribe to any closed source philosophies.

IMO open source is the way. (life)
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I have some personal theories as to just how deep the masonic hole goes if anyone is interested. somewhat related.

my GGrandfather was a master in the ancient lodge but i however am not a mason as i prefer not to swear oaths and do not subscribe to any closed source philosophies.

IMO open source is the way. (life)
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Sure why not. You don't need our permission to post if it is somewhat on topic.





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