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tubes closed due to grenfell safety fears

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"pull it"
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pulled
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Lily Allen joins protesters

Singer Lily Allen joined the protest outside Kensington Town Hall - home to the local council that owns Grenfell Tower - earlier.

People gathered to call for justice for those affected by the fire, which killed at least 30 people.

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When minorities are dying these celebrities are everywere BUT when white people are dying they keep quiet.

Those celebrities are cowards.
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So no white people were caught up in this fire ?
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Looks like maybe 3 of the victims so far were white and most were asylum seekers.
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chuckle they weren't asylum seekers, I think one only one was actually a Syrian migrant who had been here since 2014, there were many who had been in that block for decades.
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tubes closed due to grenfell safety fears

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"pull it"
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yep, controlled demolition time
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Corbyn backers spread fake news about Grenfell Tower as Johnson blasts 'political games'

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I wonder if clouds look down on us and say.. "Hey look, that one's shaped like an idiot"

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Check the amount of downvotes and upvotes
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
Thread: My solution to handle extremism in Britain.


A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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"pull it"
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yep, controlled demolition time
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If this building falls it's was one of the alfabet agencies who did this
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Corbyn backers spread fake news about Grenfell Tower as Johnson blasts 'political games'

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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
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Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
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Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.

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Thread: My solution to handle extremism in Britain.


A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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The building is there you can see it driving over flyover on the Westway. I drive past the fucking thing every day.
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... and you have not noticed that it was empty????
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The building is there you can see it driving over flyover on the Westway. I drive past the fucking thing every day.
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... and you have not noticed that it was empty????
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no....
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
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Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
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Corbyn backers spread fake news about Grenfell Tower as Johnson blasts 'political games'

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Tess.


Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
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Even a rough count of known survivors, that isn't fully accurate, would be a start. They could have made a phone number public thru the media for unaccounted survivors to phone up and notify they're safe( the ones who aren't sleeping at the community centres).

Makes me think the authorities have a fairly good idea on the number of survivors and it isn't a pretty number so they're keeping it hushed up.
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Even a rough count of known survivors, that isn't fully accurate, would be a start. They could have made a phone number public thru the media for unaccounted survivors to phone up and notify they're safe( the ones who aren't sleeping at the community centres).

Makes me think the authorities have a fairly good idea on the number of survivors and it isn't a pretty number so they're keeping it hushed up.
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I think they do have an idea and the only reason they aren't stating it is because of the insurance reasons for the owner of the bldg. They will have to pay big to those families.
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i still think that this was a ritual...
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Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
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Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Even a rough count of known survivors, that isn't fully accurate, would be a start. They could have made a phone number public thru the media for unaccounted survivors to phone up and notify they're safe( the ones who aren't sleeping at the community centres).

Makes me think the authorities have a fairly good idea on the number of survivors and it isn't a pretty number so they're keeping it hushed up.
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I think they do have an idea and the only reason they aren't stating it is because of the insurance reasons for the owner of the bldg. They will have to pay big to those families.
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As I said there is nothing stopping an independent head account of those in shelters and so forth
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A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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i still think that this was a ritual...
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chuckle

A theory is a theory, at least you're not ramming down others throats and calling it gospel.
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A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

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Knowledge is Power, Power is A target, You are Dangerous with Knowledge therefore you are a Target.
I Don't Hate A Race, I hate An Ideal, Race Is A Label Given To The Masses To Hate.

Behind Every Good Man There Is A Good Woman. <<( Lowkey )

ma adjmala al-Hurriya

Don't Advertise A Bigger Prick Than You Got

Kindness comes from Ones own ability to show what they seek

Everyone is the same, even the Queen takes a shit << Ed Sheeran

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The comments underneath are interesting:

'No shock. That's what I see here from the people being interviewed. No shock. Only very detailed and coherent descriptions of what happened.&#65279;'

'Exactly. It looks very fake. The only thing real is the building burning. How can people believe an appliance burned an entire building like that in record time? Plus the crisis actors and that video of fake screams of the kid. It's manufactured. I still haven't seen one body or a real victim yet. People should have a lot more cameras from their phones too right? If people were jumping you would think people would be filming it in this day and age.&#65279;'

'i think the agenda is to revamp building codes and retrofit buildings worldwide at massive, massive costs and that will reap a windfall of billions upon billions of dollars to the criminals associated with the building industry and construction companies.

In fact the very next day in Australia the Prime Minister said that all buildings in the country needed to be audited for safety and must be re-fitted if not up to code. However there are ALREADY very strict building codes in place, VERY strict . And the Prime Minister announcing this the very next day, only one day after the fire and before any investigation into the cause of the fire had been even spoken of.

Whatever the agenda is you can guarentee it will be related to money, follow the money. I'm sure gentrification of London is also part of the agenda too. One thing seems obvious and that is that these crisis actors are lying their asses off .... so I can safely assume nobody was killed or injured in this deliberately lit fire ..... more trauma porn&#65279;.'

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live stream not being shown on MSM at all

protestors calling out the evil ideology of neoliberalism

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i still think that this was a ritual...
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^ ditto
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Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.
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On another thread a lady heard from a radio show, most the beds remained empty. Staff believe HUNDREDS have died. Very few survivors.
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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".






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Commander Stuary Cundy - 58 presumed dead for now
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Commander Stuary Cundy - 58 presumed dead for now
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Stuart*
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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

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I wonder if clouds look down on us and say.. "Hey look, that one's shaped like an idiot"

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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

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Show your evidence he did that then, otherwise you're just smearing with unsubstantiated rumour like you usually do.
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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".

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Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

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Because he's a backwards retard that will only jump on something to push forth his own agenda.
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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Tess.


Because he's a backwards retard that will only jump on something to push forth his own agenda.
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There is no evidence he voted to do that.
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There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74651032


Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Tess.


Because he's a backwards retard that will only jump on something to push forth his own agenda.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


There is no evidence he voted to do that.
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Maybe not but he is still a backwards retard and not to be trusted just like any other politician
Thread: My solution to handle extremism in Britain.


A thought on Islam and the Extremist threat, if someone has the plague and is sat in a room full of people do you only Quarantine the person or all in the room ?

Thread: My Take On Saudi Arabia and the Shit Storm we Are In Today.

<<<<<<<<<<<<LEARN ADAPT OVERCOME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice.
Knowledge is Power, Power is A target, You are Dangerous with Knowledge therefore you are a Target.
I Don't Hate A Race, I hate An Ideal, Race Is A Label Given To The Masses To Hate.

Behind Every Good Man There Is A Good Woman. <<( Lowkey )

ma adjmala al-Hurriya

Don't Advertise A Bigger Prick Than You Got

Kindness comes from Ones own ability to show what they seek

Everyone is the same, even the Queen takes a shit << Ed Sheeran

I'm a skeptic, I look at something from all views, rather than a course presented to me.
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i still think that this was a ritual...
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Yeah but for what? What was the meaning of this day?
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i still think that this was a ritual...
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Yeah but for what? What was the meaning of this day?
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Bit wicker man like


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