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Aye they are panicking, we had a check recently ourselves prior to this fire our property is only 2 years old though so we are lucky on that front as within that time this property has undergone various inspections as it's passed hands from contractor to landlord, which have also carried out their own checks.

There will likely be a push to check all properties within social housing and I wouldn't be surprised if it would be added to private landlord legislative licensing requirements either.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


These checks the council are doing appear to be very prompt and urgent as she lives in a normal terraced house and not a block of flats or a tower which I thought would have been their first priority.
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The thing with council property is that a lot of the electrics and gas works tend to hitting the age and due refurbishment, and obviously the newer legislation 17th edition I think it is now for electrics needs to be used to update the electrics and those electrics already updated need to be checked again.

Ive lived in terraced houses before too, and they tend to be among the oldest properties in Britain some as old as 100yo, and I know from first hand the problems that exist in them can be worrying.

I think all social housing will get the full MOT considering what's gone on.
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It is the right thing to do isn't it. Fire crews should also work with the council and tenants on regular evacuation drills on tower blocks because they would learn so much so fast if they did this nationwide. The people in these towers will feel far more confident in knowing what to do if fires do occur. Why practice drills on empty set up buildings when you can practice drills on the real thing.
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It is the right thing to do yes.

In defence of the firefighters they don't have the manpower or funding to do regular drills or run campaigns.

But the politicians are OK for a 11% pay rise.

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Chatter about over 500 missing possibly dead. Dunno how accurate

Seems a bit much

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UK readers and posters.

Coincidence? I've just got back from a friends house who lives near me but under a different council and she rents one of their properties.

On Friday she got a letter from her social housing landlord to say they will be doing an electrical safety check in her home and it will take approximately 4 hours. The bottom of the letter it says faulty or untested installations can cause damage to property or even serious injury.

This is the first time such a check has been carried out in the house and for 4 hours apart from the usual boiler and smoke alarm annual tests they do.

Am I jumping to conclusions by thinking this new 4 hour electric check has something to do with councils shitting themselves because of the London tower block fire.

Has anyone else who rents council property had a similar letter.
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Electrical surges were reported weeks before fire
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These checks the council are doing appear to be very prompt and urgent as she lives in a normal terraced house and not a block of flats or a tower which I thought would have been their first priority.
 Quoting: ThisWayUp


The thing with council property is that a lot of the electrics and gas works tend to hitting the age and due refurbishment, and obviously the newer legislation 17th edition I think it is now for electrics needs to be used to update the electrics and those electrics already updated need to be checked again.

Ive lived in terraced houses before too, and they tend to be among the oldest properties in Britain some as old as 100yo, and I know from first hand the problems that exist in them can be worrying.

I think all social housing will get the full MOT considering what's gone on.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


It is the right thing to do isn't it. Fire crews should also work with the council and tenants on regular evacuation drills on tower blocks because they would learn so much so fast if they did this nationwide. The people in these towers will feel far more confident in knowing what to do if fires do occur. Why practice drills on empty set up buildings when you can practice drills on the real thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75052675


It is the right thing to do yes.

In defence of the firefighters they don't have the manpower or funding to do regular drills or run campaigns.

But the politicians are OK for a 11% pay rise.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


I wish I could create a law where the working people of the UK could have a choice of what exactly their taxes are situated by the government they choose. The trillions that have been spent on wars and weapons compared to the our services and authorities and our country would be as shameful as Grenfell I think. I would choose my taxes for an army that defends and a system that does not have to worry about the services it provides. Police and Firecrews would not be laid off !! The NHS would be 50 years in front financially and care for elders along with pensions would never have any concerns.
I really think there should be some type of program that enables the people choose where their taxes go.
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It amuses me that these hoaxtards believe they live in a world where no one dies a violent death, ever.
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If only it were true
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
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It amuses me that these hoaxtards believe they live in a world where no one dies a violent death, ever.
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If only it were true
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
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You are living in Narnia you lunatic.
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Chatter about over 500 missing possibly dead. Dunno how accurate

Seems a bit much
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I think they estimate that there were about 500 people in the building. The figures they are putting out don't add up because with the amount of people in hospital, with the dead they have already confirmed, and the people accounted for that got out or were rescued seems to place the amount at between 300-350 meaning some 150-200 are missing.

I stopped by there today just to have a look around and the amount of pictures of missing people are a lot more then the 58 the police are saying.

But it's hard to gauge the true figure because they know who's in hospital and who's been found, so some of those pictures might be people they already located.

I think they are drip feeding the figures to try and keep a lid on the anger.

There is DEFINITELY a lot of tension in the area.
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If only it were true
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
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You are living in Narnia you lunatic.
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Why are people saying this never happened ! They are living in cuckoo land ...
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If only it were true
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Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74640871


You are living in Narnia you lunatic.
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Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74640871


You are living in Narnia you lunatic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75052675

Why are people saying this never happened ! They are living in cuckoo land ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75052675


You tell me I'm living in Narnia, then you ask me why people think this is a hoax?

WTF?
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It amuses me that these hoaxtards believe they live in a world where no one dies a violent death, ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73032991


If only it were true
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74640871


I don't think they were saying that the fire itself was a hoax because you could see the fire but there's a lot of things that don't add up for me in the way it's being portrayed in the media. The other points they made are legitimate IMO. Wasn't till I read them that I realised I hadn't actually seen any ambulances which seems very odd with such a huge blaze and especially as the news reports say people had been taken to hospital. The other thing a mate of mine pointed out is there only seems to be pictures of one hose pipe being aimed at the tower. I don't know how many fire engines they had down there but surely there'd be loads of hoses aimed at that kind of fire?
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Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Is that a legit site?

Very good find if so ac.
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Now let the "missing persons" all be muzz ...
Recipe for riots
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Recipe for civil "muzz" uprising,stabbing people ,jihad and other stuff Thread: Organizer of Grenfell tower protests was arrested for suspicion of terrorism offences few years ago
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Yeah this is gonna get interesting, perfect cover or distarction for some jihadi crap.
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Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Sadly this sounds the most accurate.
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Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Is that a legit site?

Very good find if so ac.
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Yes, legit site.
But on their about us page they have a disclaimer, so the info can't be guaranteed to be accurate.
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Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Is that a legit site?

Very good find if so ac.
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Site is legit. Where they got the numbers, I don't know.
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If only it were true
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Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72747881


Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74640871


I don't think they were saying that the fire itself was a hoax because you could see the fire but there's a lot of things that don't add up for me in the way it's being portrayed in the media. The other points they made are legitimate IMO. Wasn't till I read them that I realised I hadn't actually seen any ambulances which seems very odd with such a huge blaze and especially as the news reports say people had been taken to hospital. The other thing a mate of mine pointed out is there only seems to be pictures of one hose pipe being aimed at the tower. I don't know how many fire engines they had down there but surely there'd be loads of hoses aimed at that kind of fire?
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thats the thing, if you don't know the area, it would be hard to understand that there are bollards and railings and other buildings round there, its just so built up that you literally can't drive around it. It's hard to explain with out actually seeing it but its not like its sitting there on its own, the whole place is literally built up round there.
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The people who should be held accountable for this carnage are the contractors who took good money, given in good faith, and then used substandard materials for the remodel.

You can bet they did the same thing on similar remodels.

Whoever was supposed the inspect the remodel construction should be held accountable too.
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The people who should be held accountable for this carnage are the contractors who took good money, given in good faith, and then used substandard materials for the remodel.

You can bet they did the same thing on similar remodels.

Whoever was supposed the inspect the remodel construction should be held accountable too.
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They will have to come down hard this time. People will want some one to go to jail. they won't be able to brush this one under the carpet.

Apparently there are at least another 300 tower blocks in the UK with the same cladding from the same company.

If I was living in one of them I would be fitting a smoke alarm and have an exit plan because the way that building went up, I wouldn't want to be sitting around waiting to be saved.
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Wake up ffs

The people who run this are in Powerful posistions, millionaires who will never be held to account.

They live in Mansions, safely away from London

google is your friend..look up the companys and contractors

also..the insurance claims will be millions.

The ritch do not want this on their door step, a hideous burnt out shell, i think the tower will be "detonated" to apease the silent "city money men"

i can see Lawyers making a mint too...lots of prominent folks not sleeping tonight, survivors still sleeping rough in local sports hall, all 65/70 of them

death toll, probs 600
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The death toll in the London high-rise fire has risen to 30 people as dozens of others remain missing, British police confirmed on Friday. Firefighters continued to search the smoldering ruins after fire ripped through the building early Wednesday morning. The death toll is still expected to rise substantially. Some have speculated that the number of dead could exceed 100. "From a personal perspective, I really hope it isn't," Metropolitan Police commander Stuart Cundy responded to the speculation. Twenty-four people are being treated in the hospital, including 12 in critical care. An investigation was launched on Thursday to determine the cause of the fire, though there is no indication it was started deliberately at this time, authorities said
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Of course some people die in a violent way. That's a fact.

The storylines the corporate media put out with these staged events are pure fiction.

As well as the complete lack of independent footage you have so called witnesses, clearly reading from a script. The usual no emotion, some of them even smiling/giggling and all of them perfectly clean and tidy.

As usual, how could the corporate media within a day, name or know how many allegedly died?

Where are the photos of all the many ambulances who logically would have been at the scene?

And of course the usual 'hero' stories. This one from an alleged fireman who was also allegedly one of the first on the scene at the 7/7 bombing. Funny that eh? Another over used storyline of theirs. 7/7 was also a staged production, full of ridiculous photoshopped pictures - as all of these events are.

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And then there's the stories of children/babies being thrown out of windows and miraculously neatly caught five/ten storeys down.

It's all bullshit.
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Honestly, there are retards and there are retards, you are a fucking idiot of a retard.

I literally drive past that tower every day you can clearly see it visibly from the A40

The thing was ablaze on the morning I was going to work they hadnt closed the roads yet until that evening and I saw the fucking thing with my own eyes.

The A40 was open the following day and you can see the burnt out shell of the building.

Seriously, grow a fucking pair and head down there and see the people and tell them they are all crisis actors.

I reckon you might last 2 minutes before being torn apart and I would laugh my ass off.

Buildings catch fire, its a matter of fact. This one just seems to be one bad fuck up after another that has led to a massive loss of life.

I don't understand why you seem to think this is a hoax?
I honestly don't get that line of thinking?
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You are living in Narnia you lunatic.
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Why are people saying this never happened ! They are living in cuckoo land ...
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It's also extremely insulting to those souls departed and to their families.
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06/17/2017 09:26 PM
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It ok they aint from the UK anyway!
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Number of affected people / Humanities loss

Dead person(s) 30
Injured person(s) 30
Missing person(s) 538
Evacuated/rescued person(s) 65

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Is that a legit site?

Very good find if so ac.
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Site is legit. Where they got the numbers, I don't know.
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Its just a take from the electoral roll, or the census or estimating by number of flats and averages.

But it's only saying how many would be missing if all 650 were present, plus it hasn't updated the known dead count.

Firefighters are saying at least 200 bodies they're not ones to usually excaterate either.

This week is going to be interesting, especially with today being fathers day and there are many fathers without their children and children without fathers, tempers and emotions are going to be mixed and frayed, when emotions are mixed people can't think clearly and that's dangerous.
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06/18/2017 04:29 AM
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Hmmm - I think it would be fair to say that the impression given by the media is that Grenfell Tower was a bit of a shabby shithole, full of immigrants on Housing benefit.

Take a look at this. It's a listing for a 2 bed flat in the Tower, which was available from May 2017.

Pretty luxurious by anyone's standards wouldn't you say?

[link to www.rightmove.co.uk]

Rent was £395 pw and it clearly says 'No DSS / Housing Benefit Applicants' - somewhat ironic as it was an ex council/social housing block.
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And again only specific flats were privately owned
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Ah yes, but it became privately owned when a ex-social housing tenant bought it cheaply from the council. They made a shot load of money.
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yeah, like being a man for starters!!!!

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Hmmm - I think it would be fair to say that the impression given by the media is that Grenfell Tower was a bit of a shabby shithole, full of immigrants on Housing benefit.

Take a look at this. It's a listing for a 2 bed flat in the Tower, which was available from May 2017.

Pretty luxurious by anyone's standards wouldn't you say?

[link to www.rightmove.co.uk]

Rent was £395 pw and it clearly says 'No DSS / Housing Benefit Applicants' - somewhat ironic as it was an ex council/social housing block.
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And again only specific flats were privately owned
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Ah yes, but it became privately owned when a ex-social housing tenant bought it cheaply from the council. They made a shot load of money.
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Not in that area it isn't, the cost of those properties even an old flat would require someone to buy in from outside or have employment, and a good credit file too.

But again it has no relevance as only some of the flats were privately owned.
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06/18/2017 07:12 AM
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Chatter about over 500 missing possibly dead. Dunno how accurate

Seems a bit much
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I think they estimate that there were about 500 people in the building. The figures they are putting out don't add up because with the amount of people in hospital, with the dead they have already confirmed, and the people accounted for that got out or were rescued seems to place the amount at between 300-350 meaning some 150-200 are missing.

I stopped by there today just to have a look around and the amount of pictures of missing people are a lot more then the 58 the police are saying.

But it's hard to gauge the true figure because they know who's in hospital and who's been found, so some of those pictures might be people they already located.

I think they are drip feeding the figures to try and keep a lid on the anger.

There is DEFINITELY a lot of tension in the area.
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London is turning to shit.
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Hmmm - I think it would be fair to say that the impression given by the media is that Grenfell Tower was a bit of a shabby shithole, full of immigrants on Housing benefit.

Take a look at this. It's a listing for a 2 bed flat in the Tower, which was available from May 2017.

Pretty luxurious by anyone's standards wouldn't you say?

[link to www.rightmove.co.uk]

Rent was £395 pw and it clearly says 'No DSS / Housing Benefit Applicants' - somewhat ironic as it was an ex council/social housing block.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20574401


And again only specific flats were privately owned
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Ah yes, but it became privately owned when a ex-social housing tenant bought it cheaply from the council. They made a shot load of money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70895794


Not in that area it isn't, the cost of those properties even an old flat would require someone to buy in from outside or have employment, and a good credit file too.

But again it has no relevance as only some of the flats were privately owned.
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Stop posting your drivel. These flats are sold off well below market value to tenants.

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