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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40783562 Canada 06/16/2017 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 star, thats what I think of it. My uncle is a pilot, has been for almost twenty years. They laugh at flattards, and worry about the future of humanity due to this spreading retardation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73809098 I think it's sombodies' mass sociology experiment (manipulation of the science- ignorant masses...) Either way there is some sort of manipulation. Globe or flat people are confused and manipulated. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75090817 Russia 06/16/2017 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 star, thats what I think of it. My uncle is a pilot, has been for almost twenty years. They laugh at flattards, and worry about the future of humanity due to this spreading retardation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73809098 I think it's sombodies' mass sociology experiment (manipulation of the science- ignorant masses...) Either way there is some sort of manipulation. Globe or flat people are confused and manipulated. Of course, because real question here is - earth itself. Like, earth is isolated from something -- which is not true. |
Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a very open minded person and do not have a aggressive/defensive reaction to hearing something like the flat earth... However I do have some cognitive dissonance. Quoting: Skizzy911 I have been watching videos about the flat earth for a long time and some things make sense while others make more sense on a globe earth. Also there are videos with no curvature and then there are videos with curvature... So I really don't know what to make of this. What videos show measurable curvature? Here you go: And I bet you will now change the goal post from "measurable" to "visible". Actually this has been debunked: Yep, a little subtraction here, a little subtraction there, trying to twist the numbers, ... From his video description: "Assuming the telescope is indeed about 1 foot above the water, and ignoring refraction due to the obviously swelling tidal waters, we can safely use about 28.5 miles as the distance to square, meaning about 522 feet of the distant smoke-stack should have been obscured, which doesn't match the observation." The telescope is still 1 meter (3.28 feet) above see level. A ten feet wave at the horizon obstructs only 10 feet of a building, not a whole skyscraper as he claims. The distance is still 47.35 km (29.42 miles). And the 522 feet (159 meters) that, as he claims, should be obstructed, are only slightly bigger than the measured 127.8 meters. Even with trying to twist the numbers, he can't disprove the curvature. And of course the video producer don't explain, why there are 127.8 meters hidden - something that can not happen on a flat earth. Oh, and of course the lame CGI excuse that is always used by flat brainers, when the are proved wrong. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need the earth to be a globe so they can justify why all the rockets going into space turn sideways and not go straight up. No video of rocket going straight up into space. Alien deception agenda to unite the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40783562 So you think, a rocket should go straight up and then make a 90 degree turn to go into orbit? Which way is shorter - the black one or the red one? :rolaunch: . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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AwakeDreamer User ID: 72721571 United States 06/16/2017 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has been shown to my satisfaction that we do not live on a spinning ball. For one thing, the math simply doesn't work. As to what it really is, my eyes tell me flat. But I don't know how the stars, sun and moon would work in that model. I think Eric Dubay lays out pretty interesting theories on it in his 200 Proofs.... video. (Are you a newbie on here? Please lose the one-eye avatar.) Awake Dreamer (not a "Dreamer") |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75087578 United States 06/16/2017 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a major difference between keeping an open mind and believing ever piece of nonsense you see on youtube. Any idiot with a shitty telescope can see that allows the planets and stars are round. I don't think it's just Earth that's flat. And consider airplane flights around the world and changes and seasons. Come on OP. |
AwakeDreamer User ID: 72721571 United States 06/16/2017 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So explain how there is night. If the earth is flat,how is the sun positioned? Is the sun flat also? Why is it round shaped to look at? So we look at the moon and it is like a round flat pie in the sky? Why don't things slide off then? It is flat laying down. Humans are going backwards in intelligence. Flat retards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72768970 The fact is, we simply don't know from our own empirical experience, what our world is and how it works. Most of us believe what we have been told, from the "experts." Once I started being aware of this issue, I was amazed to notice how many globe earth models you see in so many movies and TV shows. That reinforcement is everywhere! I counted 3 different globe models, for instance, in the FBI office set for Sealy Boothe in the Bones series! As I said earlier, Eric Dubay's 200 Proofs the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball lays out an interesting theory for how day/night, sun/moon/stars work in the flat earth model. But the problem of empirical proof remains, so like every other explanation, it is a theory. Awake Dreamer (not a "Dreamer") |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer this question - If the earth is spinning, how can the speed of sound be the same at every direction? Sound waves are not affected by gravity. If you explode a bomb, and there is a person 1 kilometer away from you at the direction of the earth's spin, then they would not be immediately (or very close to it) be able to hear that sound, since the earth is spinning away from them. The speed of sound is 340 m/s, earth's spinning speed is 278m/s, therefor the speed of sound is only 62 m/s faster than the speed of the earth's spinning. Therefor it would take sound approximately 15 seconds to travel 1 kilometer at the direction of the earth's spin. But in reality you would be able to hear the bomb exploding in less than 3 seconds... or the estimated time it would take if the sound was traveling 340 m/s. But if sound is not affected by gravity, then the earth spinning away from the source of the sound would slow it down significantly and the speed of sound would be reduced to 62 m/s, therefor it would be impossible for the sound to travel a kilometer in less than 3 seconds... There can only be two possible conclusions to this - Either sound is affected by gravity, or the earth is not spinning. Last Edited by Skizzy911 on 06/16/2017 01:08 PM Something deep. |
chrisvet User ID: 74891836 Canada 06/16/2017 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The biggest question for me is, what is the pointof globe earth conspiracy? Why would they go to this length to make the world believe that the earth is a globe? What difference does it really make? Quoting: Skizzy911 Agreed. The opinion of one of the smartest guys I've spoken with: [link to montalk.net] Is Earth flat or a globe? It’s a globe, at least here in our 3D reality. The deeper conspiracy is that our reality itself might be a kind of simulation, or temporary reality that’s like a side track to the main real reality, or is in some way a gimped version of the authentic. As a result, there are certain glitches or inconsistencies in our everyday experiences and in the world (fortean phenomena, synchronicities, spontaneous invisibility, time warps, etc.) that show the cracks in the façade. Not to mention, what afterlife research, aliens, and metaphysical beings suggest about there being another reality behind the curtain. I think the flat Earth theory is disinformation meant to distract and keep people limited to lower dimensional thinking instead of thinking hyperdimensionally or metaphysically. It uses a lot of sleight of hand, wrong assumptions, incomplete assumptions, and lack of sufficient science knowledge to pull various “stage magic” tricks to support the idea that Earth is flat. But if you investigate each of the claims, you can find where their reasoning or assumptions go wrong. To give one example, cameras on weather balloons have been used by flat Earth theorists to show that even when the balloon gets higher and higher the horizon always stays at eye level instead of dropping and curving as it should on a sphere. But to do the numbers, balloons don’t actually go that high, as the highest they go is 23 miles. Diameter of Earth is 7,917.5 miles. So if Earth were a basketball, 23.44cm in diameter, a weather balloon then would get 0.7 mm from the surface. That is so close to it, that the horizon of the basketball would be close to eye level. It would be close enough that the difference versus ground level is too small to be obvious in weather balloon photographs. Another example is that airplanes on long flights don’t have to dip their noses to follow the downward curving countour of the Earth’s surface. Thus it would appear the surface is flat. But the larger the sphere, the flatter its surface appears when you’re close to it. As an airplane flies over the ground or water below, it is flying almost flat like a ruler, and the ground below is almost flat like a ruler too, except there is a slight curvature to the ground which is matched by the plane’s slight curvature in its path, the two remaining parallel to each other as both curve equally. These arguments are all along the lines of, “If the sky is blue and the sun yellow, then why isn’t the light that hits us green since blue + yellow = green?” which makes sense only if you don’t know enough about the physics of light scattering and optics. Like I said, the flat Earth proponents are good at coming up with reasons that tend to fall apart when examined, only to come up with new ones as those previous ones are explained away, only to repeat the cycle further and further. "Do the Shit out of what you Love" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1712129 United States 06/16/2017 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? Something deep. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1712129 United States 06/16/2017 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? So you can trust in your GPS device. |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? So you can trust in your GPS device. Why doesn't GPS work in the southern hemisphere? Something deep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1712129 United States 06/16/2017 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? So you can trust in your GPS device. Why doesn't GPS work in the southern hemisphere? It does |
Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer this question - If the earth is spinning, how can the speed of sound be the same at every direction? Sound waves are not affected by gravity. If you explode a bomb, and there is a person 1 kilometer away from you at the direction of the earth's spin, then they would not be immediately (or very close to it) be able to hear that sound, since the earth is spinning away from them. Quoting: Skizzy911 The speed of sound is 340 m/s, earth's spinning speed is 278m/s, therefor the speed of sound is only 62 m/s faster than the speed of the earth's spinning. Therefor it would take sound approximately 15 seconds to travel 1 kilometer at the direction of the earth's spin. But in reality you would be able to hear the bomb exploding in less than 3 seconds... or the estimated time it would take if the sound was traveling 340 m/s. But if sound is not affected by gravity, then the earth spinning away from the source of the sound would slow it down significantly and the speed of sound would be reduced to 62 m/s, therefor it would be impossible for the sound to travel a kilometer in less than 3 seconds... There can only be two possible conclusions to this - Either sound is affected by gravity, or the earth is not spinning. Sound needs a medium, like air, to propagate. The air is spinning with Earth. Thus you have Earth spinning at 278 m/s and the air spinning at 278 m/s. But btw.: Your example, if true, is not a proof for a flat earth, it would also apply to a stationary, not spinning earth. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
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Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? There is no need to have faith in NASA. You don't need NASA to disprove a flat earth and prove a globe earth. Who told you? Did you ask someone living in the southern hemisphere if his GPS device works or not? . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? There is no need to have faith in NASA. You don't need NASA to disprove a flat earth and prove a globe earth. Who told you? Did you ask someone living in the southern hemisphere if his GPS device works or not? . The airplane tracking doesn't work in southern hemisphere... Something deep. |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer this question - If the earth is spinning, how can the speed of sound be the same at every direction? Sound waves are not affected by gravity. If you explode a bomb, and there is a person 1 kilometer away from you at the direction of the earth's spin, then they would not be immediately (or very close to it) be able to hear that sound, since the earth is spinning away from them. Quoting: Skizzy911 The speed of sound is 340 m/s, earth's spinning speed is 278m/s, therefor the speed of sound is only 62 m/s faster than the speed of the earth's spinning. Therefor it would take sound approximately 15 seconds to travel 1 kilometer at the direction of the earth's spin. But in reality you would be able to hear the bomb exploding in less than 3 seconds... or the estimated time it would take if the sound was traveling 340 m/s. But if sound is not affected by gravity, then the earth spinning away from the source of the sound would slow it down significantly and the speed of sound would be reduced to 62 m/s, therefor it would be impossible for the sound to travel a kilometer in less than 3 seconds... There can only be two possible conclusions to this - Either sound is affected by gravity, or the earth is not spinning. Sound needs a medium, like air, to propagate. The air is spinning with Earth. Thus you have Earth spinning at 278 m/s and the air spinning at 278 m/s. But btw.: Your example, if true, is not a proof for a flat earth, it would also apply to a stationary, not spinning earth. . If the air is spinning with the earth, how come clouds can be moving in any direction or stationary? Wouldn't clouds always move at the earth's spinning direction? Something deep. |
Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the earth is round. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1712129 I also think that anyone that doesn't consider the evidence first and call others idiot are all sheep. Many great scientist some from less than a century ago were examining this question. Some got it right some got it wrong. It is not an easy proof without faith in nasa. Why on earth would I have faith in NASA? There is no need to have faith in NASA. You don't need NASA to disprove a flat earth and prove a globe earth. Who told you? Did you ask someone living in the southern hemisphere if his GPS device works or not? The airplane tracking doesn't work in southern hemisphere... Aircraft tracking does not use GPS, it uses ground based stations. And you just gave an argument against the flat earth: if earth were flat, aircraft tracking should also work in the southern hemisphere. GPS works in one direction: satellite --> GPS receiver. Aircrafts, as cars, don't have a GPS transmitter on board. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Hydra User ID: 75087558 Germany 06/16/2017 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer this question - If the earth is spinning, how can the speed of sound be the same at every direction? Sound waves are not affected by gravity. If you explode a bomb, and there is a person 1 kilometer away from you at the direction of the earth's spin, then they would not be immediately (or very close to it) be able to hear that sound, since the earth is spinning away from them. Quoting: Skizzy911 The speed of sound is 340 m/s, earth's spinning speed is 278m/s, therefor the speed of sound is only 62 m/s faster than the speed of the earth's spinning. Therefor it would take sound approximately 15 seconds to travel 1 kilometer at the direction of the earth's spin. But in reality you would be able to hear the bomb exploding in less than 3 seconds... or the estimated time it would take if the sound was traveling 340 m/s. But if sound is not affected by gravity, then the earth spinning away from the source of the sound would slow it down significantly and the speed of sound would be reduced to 62 m/s, therefor it would be impossible for the sound to travel a kilometer in less than 3 seconds... There can only be two possible conclusions to this - Either sound is affected by gravity, or the earth is not spinning. Sound needs a medium, like air, to propagate. The air is spinning with Earth. Thus you have Earth spinning at 278 m/s and the air spinning at 278 m/s. But btw.: Your example, if true, is not a proof for a flat earth, it would also apply to a stationary, not spinning earth. If the air is spinning with the earth, how come clouds can be moving in any direction or stationary? Wouldn't clouds always move at the earth's spinning direction? In general cloud systems move with earth, look at satellite images. Individual clouds are driven by differences in atmospheric pressure - from high to low. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
Skizzy911 (OP) User ID: 62917470 Estonia 06/16/2017 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no need to have faith in NASA. You don't need NASA to disprove a flat earth and prove a globe earth. Who told you? Did you ask someone living in the southern hemisphere if his GPS device works or not? The airplane tracking doesn't work in southern hemisphere... Aircraft tracking does not use GPS, it uses ground based stations. And you just gave an argument against the flat earth: if earth were flat, aircraft tracking should also work in the southern hemisphere. GPS works in one direction: satellite --> GPS receiver. Aircrafts, as cars, don't have a GPS transmitter on board. . No it does work, but the airplane tracking deliberately doesn't work because it would prove a flat earth... Something deep. |