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ACX Crystal performed a u turn to hit USS Fitzgerald. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58776263  United States06/18/2017 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the Japanese Coastguard, the Fitzgerald was stationary when struck by ACX Crystal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58776263 The ACX Crystal initially safely passed the Fitzgerald then doubled back, striking the Fitzgerald. Captain was injured when his quarter's collapsed on impact. Given Crystal's upper bow impression on the Fitzgerald's starboard superstructure, the Crystal's bow bulb probably pushed in a good 20 feet or more into Fitzgerald's hull. Explains news reports of a tear below the waterline extending all the way aft to stern. Seven sailors drowned or will killed on impact as berthing areas flooded. Destroyers, and other ships of this displacement, don't start and stop immediately and Fitzgerald was stationary as initial coastguard reports suggest - there was no way it could respond to an aggressive vessel doubling back at relatively close range to strike her. Given where Fitzgerald was struck, looks suspicious. Add to that the aggressive U-turn by Crystal and it becomes doubly suspicious. Seven young men were killed - we need answers. ACX Crystal is managed and operated by SeaQuest and their recently purchased SeaQuest Oriental subsidiary. Google says their website might be hacked. One of their 'services' is remote engine, navigation and machine systems management and monitoring.  There are no confirmed reports of the Fitzgerald being stationary when struck. And I see that you failed to provide a link to back up your rumor spreading. USS Fitzgerald was stationary per reports from NHK citing Japanese Coastguard spokesperson. Other initial NHK reporting has been verified as accurate - injuries to captain, initial number of missing sailors, etc. Damage is also indicative of this with a single bow impression impact mid-ship. wrong The damage indicates a roughly 20 degree impact due to the Fitzgerald failing to yield right of way to starboard approaching vessel. AIS data shows that the Crystal turned around AFTER they realized they had struck something and it took them an hour to get back and that is when they made visual contact with JCG. [link to www.vesselofinterest.com] Agree Crystal's port side bow damage 'could' indicate a shallow angle, but 'failure to yield right of way' you're pulling out of your ass. Key is seeing damage, if any, to the Crystal's starboard bow just above the waterline. The upper bow damage was caused by impact to the Fitzgerald's superstructure Key is knowing the exact time of the collision - that would make sorting the AIS plots easier. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72889671 United States06/19/2017 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet identified the deceased sailors as: · Gunner’s Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Va. · Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, Calif. · Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Conn. · Gunner’s Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas · Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlosvictor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, Calif. · Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Md. · Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio [link to www.foxnews.com] May they rest in peace. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74768843 United States06/19/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep in mind that the C didn't just perform a u-turn. She initiated both 1) turns and 2) speed adjustments to bring her dead-on to the Fitz. And this as the Fitz was immobilized. Note all the Magic Bullet Theories being desperately foisted; "Oh, such a thing is completely possible if A, B, C, D, E, F, G and H happen, shucks, this happened before [in 1889]!!" Chinese testing asymmetrical weapons jam Fitz long enough for a "civilian" ship to suddenly change course and ram her. The Chinese, lacking a decent, sizable Navy, have cleverly turned every ship asea into a potential "Chinese Navy" vessel. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74768843 United States06/19/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep in mind that the C didn't just perform a u-turn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74768843 She initiated both 1) turns and 2) speed adjustments to bring her dead-on to the Fitz. And this as the Fitz was immobilized. Note all the Magic Bullet Theories being desperately foisted; "Oh, such a thing is completely possible if A, B, C, D, E, F, G and H happen, shucks, this happened before [in 1889]!!" Chinese testing asymmetrical weapons jam Fitz long enough for a "civilian" ship to suddenly change course and ram her. The Chinese, lacking a decent, sizable Navy, have cleverly turned every ship asea into a potential "Chinese Navy" vessel. P.S. It's called terrorism. |
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Ralph--a house dog  User ID: 75075122 United States06/23/2017 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it does look that way what about Communications are you telling me there was no Communications between the Fitzgerald and the cargo ship of course there was that had to be I mean come on I go out on the bay and this Communications between boats are you can't tell about to get out of the way no you get out of the way no you get out of the way I mean come up it's being covered up something happened they don't want us to know about it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46892174 Rumors that communications were 'taken out' by something--do a search --lots of info. Hard to know what to think at this point "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 48187592 Canada06/23/2017 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no way that a US Navy ship on patrol would be hit by a slow moving freighter if ANY of its systems were functioning. Beside radars, they also have men posted around the ship keeping watch literally with binoculars. They werent caught asleep at the wheel, the damn ship was disabled remotely. My opinion is that the Fitz was a victim of electronic weapons like the Donald Cook was. This time the perps hacked and rammed a ship into the disabled Navy vessel. That Navy crew was working feversihly to get it started again but couldnt. Once the deed was done, the electronic weapon was shut off and the ship could move again. But it was ALMOST lost; it must've been so bad, so fast that they closed hatches knowing full well men were trapped. The Phillipino crew themselves probably didnt know what the hell was happening as the ship manouvered on its own. These ships are capable of knocking down fighter jets and anti ship missiles and running down subs- there is zero chance a big dumb slow freighter bumbled its way by accident into this collision. Zero chance |
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| Sheepdog79 User ID: 75013547 United States06/23/2017 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ACX Crystal's course shows that it performed a rapid U-turn at speed and then turned to head back to Toky Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74791841 Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook This appears to me as an intentional hit. Go to the link and look at the map which shows the change of course and how suspicious it looks. Both maps show and one in detail the facts that the ACX Crystal had to go out of its way to hit the Fitzy. The ACX was at full speed and it used its bow as a ram to hit the Fitzgerald at its most vulnerable spot right at the control and bridge area. My opinion is that this was on purpose and there is no explantion for the extreme change in course except to hit the US ship. YES!!! Sheepdog |
| Sheepdog79 User ID: 75013547 United States06/23/2017 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no way that a US Navy ship on patrol would be hit by a slow moving freighter if ANY of its systems were functioning. Beside radars, they also have men posted around the ship keeping watch literally with binoculars. They werent caught asleep at the wheel, the damn ship was disabled remotely. Quoting: Jizzer My opinion is that the Fitz was a victim of electronic weapons like the Donald Cook was. This time the perps hacked and rammed a ship into the disabled Navy vessel. That Navy crew was working feversihly to get it started again but couldnt. Once the deed was done, the electronic weapon was shut off and the ship could move again. But it was ALMOST lost; it must've been so bad, so fast that they closed hatches knowing full well men were trapped. The Phillipino crew themselves probably didnt know what the hell was happening as the ship manouvered on its own. These ships are capable of knocking down fighter jets and anti ship missiles and running down subs- there is zero chance a big dumb slow freighter bumbled its way by accident into this collision. Zero chance There is no way that a US Navy ship on patrol would be hit by a slow moving freighter if ANY of its systems were functioning. Beside radars, they also have men posted around the ship keeping watch literally with binoculars. They werent caught asleep at the wheel, the damn ship was disabled remotely. Quoting: Jizzer My opinion is that the Fitz was a victim of electronic weapons like the Donald Cook was. This time the perps hacked and rammed a ship into the disabled Navy vessel. That Navy crew was working feversihly to get it started again but couldnt. Once the deed was done, the electronic weapon was shut off and the ship could move again. But it was ALMOST lost; it must've been so bad, so fast that they closed hatches knowing full well men were trapped. The Phillipino crew themselves probably didnt know what the hell was happening as the ship manouvered on its own. These ships are capable of knocking down fighter jets and anti ship missiles and running down subs- there is zero chance a big dumb slow freighter bumbled its way by accident into this collision. Zero chance Also YES!!! Sheepdog |
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| Armchair General The Only 5-star General on GLP User ID: 75111770 United States06/23/2017 09:02 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like a deliberate act from where I'm sitting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75089598 The other ship was a Filipino Flagged, probably driven by a muslim. I agree, this was deliberate and intentional. The Philippineo president Duertes was pissed at the US for getting involved with anti-ISIS operations in his country.. surely this was retaliation. -Armchair General- "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur "I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933 Pronouns: Sir/General/That Bastard |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54273211 United States06/23/2017 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like a deliberate act from where I'm sitting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75089598 The other ship was a Filipino Flagged, probably driven by a muslim. I agree, this was deliberate and intentional. The Philippineo president Duertes was pissed at the US for getting involved with anti-ISIS operations in his country.. surely this was retaliation. The Philippinos probably don't have the technology to render an Americans destroyers radios, sonar, and radar systems useless. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28335857 United States06/24/2017 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over twenty years ago the recreational boater could purchase a personal radar system for a few thousand dollars that had a range of 32 to 48 miles. That radar had features such as the ability to track 6 individual contacts simultaneously. Information available on each of those targets displayed included range, bearing, course, vector, closest point of approach, and time to closest point of approach. Also available was a blanket guard zone alarm that could be set for any contacts within a preselected distance circumference around the vessel. This was technology available to a weekend captain off the shelf almost a quarter century ago. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3256592 United States06/24/2017 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if the EMP jammed our electronics on the Fitzgerald, there are alway crewmen on watch. The Fitzgerald is highly maneuverable even WITHOUT electronics. Our sailors are all capable of sailing away MANUALLY. i can't believe how dumbed down we have become!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26119085  Philippines06/24/2017 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I keep saying that the ship from the Philippines, where an islamic militant attack was just happening for 2 wks, probably had escaped islamic terrorists on board. Quoting: CountryWise Because you are a retarded dumbass. The ship turned around AFTER the collision. Fitzgerald violated right of way. Every news outlet is correcting the timeline and the story now. [link to freebeacon.com] [link to www.rt.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26119085 Philippines06/24/2017 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12748976 There are no confirmed reports of the Fitzgerald being stationary when struck. And I see that you failed to provide a link to back up your rumor spreading. USS Fitzgerald was stationary per reports from NHK citing Japanese Coastguard spokesperson. Other initial NHK reporting has been verified as accurate - injuries to captain, initial number of missing sailors, etc. Damage is also indicative of this with a single bow impression impact mid-ship. wrong The damage indicates a roughly 20 degree impact due to the Fitzgerald failing to yield right of way to starboard approaching vessel. AIS data shows that the Crystal turned around AFTER they realized they had struck something and it took them an hour to get back and that is when they made visual contact with JCG. [link to www.vesselofinterest.com] Agree Crystal's port side bow damage 'could' indicate a shallow angle, but 'failure to yield right of way' you're pulling out of your ass. Key is seeing damage, if any, to the Crystal's starboard bow just above the waterline. The upper bow damage was caused by impact to the Fitzgerald's superstructure Key is knowing the exact time of the collision - that would make sorting the AIS plots easier. You are the one taking out of your ass. Rule 15 of the COLREGS states that the vessel t the starboard has right of way. Especially in this case. And the exact time was 0130 not 0230. So it is exactly as I stated. |
| mandela effect , military User ID: 72012622  Estonia06/24/2017 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | take a logical look at the undisputed information [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] notice the impossible ship paths 1)we have a cargo ship that takes impossible turns/location changes 2)the ship positions are determined by various/separate radar and communications, including even social media 3) there is a one hour glitch/ changing of when an accident happened I would simply submit that the explanation that fits the best is 1) the ships had orders to be on a certain heading/ position at a given time, dictated by a computer program 2) the computer program , in an experiment one hour after the initial reported collision FLIPPED THE QUANTUM SWITCH, so that the ships retroactively were to be in new positions 3) what follows are the observations of how the quantum paradox of undoing an accident corrects itself, or doesn't 4) it is/was a military experiment |
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