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FOR SMART PEOPLE ONLY: When you realize our existence is impossible...

 
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Jesus Christ is the Lord of all. He is the Son of God the Father from eternity past. Through Jesus Christ all that we see and experience has been created. He purchaed our lives with his blood on calvary, and we have become a holy inheritence to our Lord; sanctified and reserved unto redemption on that great and terrible day of judgement. Satan's time is almost up, and his little 7 year house party is about to begin. Dad's not gonna be happy about it when he comes home and sees the house trashed...
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This. I'm a research scientist, amateur astronomer, and former atheist.
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Cause... there's nothing else going on.
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It's all just a dream
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Hm.

I strongly suspect,
that as soon as something
was discernible from nothing,
we became an inevitability.

And the bloody drama which follows.
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Jesus Christ is the Lord of all. He is the Son of God the Father from eternity past. Through Jesus Christ all that we see and experience has been created. He purchaed our lives with his blood on calvary, and we have become a holy inheritence to our Lord; sanctified and reserved unto redemption on that great and terrible day of judgement. Satan's time is almost up, and his little 7 year house party is about to begin. Dad's not gonna be happy about it when he comes home and sees the house trashed...
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This. I'm a research scientist, amateur astronomer, and former atheist.
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Maybe "amateur astronomer," but you other claims are nothing but a wish list.
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love, companionship, all the good things, are made greater and most worthwhile, when the contrasts that make them shine out, in the here and now are removed, then eternity will expand as intended.
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is this another gay elon musk computer simulation reality thread.?

figure it out OP.

it's not as complicated as it seems. occam's razor.

and quit looking for the daddy in the sky that you never had.
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*stupid person thread carshing and smashing shit and thread killing cuz of jealeous*
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Why not 'become as a child' as Jesus said,

and believe in miracles? Existence is a miracle, pure and simple.


Magic is Energy not being created, nor destroyed, but only able to change from one form to another....
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Anybody who thinks evolution explains this shit - don't even bother with this thread... just move on.

I did the astrophysics, molecular biology route. We shouldn't be here at all. Not even the cold dead universe, much less us.

So to the smart people only: If you have come to this truly enlightened conclusion, then I ask only you few people to reply:

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What the hell are we, and what is the true nature of
this place we call existence.
I want to hear *YOUR* thoughts.
=======================================================

Everybody else, take your stupid parroted non-thinking pseudo-scientific and your stupid human-created-religious explanations and bugger off. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU.

The rest of you intelligent beings/AI's/or whatever the heck we are, please proceed to share your best ideas of what this is really all about.
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I doubt you will comprehend it, but here you go.

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It's true though..

Technically we should not exist.

Yet we do, or at least we think we do...

damned
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I'm interested to hear your definition of the word "exist"

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Time is a constant. Time is not linear. Everything is now. This doesnt answer the op question but is a great starting point. Like lately when i watch a medium show amd the spirits suggest medical issues that will arise in a person it makes wonder does that mean lifestyle or health awareness doesnt matter? But it goes back to everything is now.
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Great thread premise however you will miss the answer due to the fact that you have eliminated it already.

I do have one concept I JUST learned yesterday that was hinted at in a Salvia trip I had.

In the salvia trip I learned that there was more past Jesus, more past God... more!

My limited mind thought there could not be more than God. But my salvia trip showed me otherwise. I tried to follow after that which I knew to be more but I was left here as a child is left with a babysitter. I was saddened but alright if not too happy.

Now to bring me to yesterday...

I am studying about angels at the moment. I found out there are earth angels. People who are straight from an Omni-God...

It all starts to get complicated and begins to sound new 'agey' so I feel compelled to stop here.


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Great thread.



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Humans always seem to want to explain the why when I think there is no why. It is fluid like all other things. There are parameters that are observable, that much is obvious. If I were to believe I was endless, being not bored seems to be my only goal. I achieve that goal through living moment by moment with a loose set of parameters to live by (morals etc). Other than that, I think its up to you.
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A few points...

1- Energy can not be created or destroyed, only transferred.

2- Energy transfer in nature is always 100%.

This means, any vibration within a form of energy will transfer 100% into other forms of energy.

Meaning, no vibration can be created or destroyed.

Meaning, no data can be created or destroyed.

What ever makes us US will persist always.

I believe upon death, our known world melts away and everything changes expect for the one singularity that is US, our awareness.

Upon death, we land somewhere and latch onto the closest thing we can find. Likely our parents in the next world.

Look how water flows, the water drop that leads the way draws the rest along the same path. We all go to the next place together.


Remember, we are energy and energy can not be created or destroyed.


Now here is an awesome thought. TO view light, a small part of lights energy must be transferred to the system that does the viewing. Same with sound, taste, etc....

So, we take energy in the 3d world and convert it into a pattern, thought in the heavens. Our thoughts are then impressed upon the 3d world. WE ARE EARTH TO HEAVEN TRANSFORMERS. We convert 3d energy into heavenly pattern.
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I like turtles...
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Why not 'become as a child' as Jesus said,

and believe in miracles? Existence is a miracle, pure and simple.


Magic is Energy not being created, nor destroyed, but only able to change from one form to another....
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Here you go, from your own bible:

Luke 10:21New International Version (NIV)

21 At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.


So... there you have it; you must be as ignorant, gullible, naïve, self centered, and uneducated as a "little child" to believe the bible. Of course, it also excludes the "wise and learned," such as people who use logic, skill, science, and education. The bible is the last bastion for people that are too stupid to think for themselves.
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orobus x infinity.the magnetic field of the singularity.
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"Time is a constant. Time is not linear. Everything is now."

i only agree that time is NOT linear.

Everything in the Universe that matters rotates in a circular manner, even the Galaxies, like ours. Although it may take billions of years to return to this point in time again, as above, so below.
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We are on a prison or slave planet being held against our wills and our minds have been wiped or we are under some sort of "spell" which doesn't allow us to remember prior to coming here. We are all souls who live forever... what have we done to be here... that's the question I have... Have we done something to deserve this or have our souls been caught and put her purely as slaves??
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Not sure what it is, but I think the purpose is self improvement
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The purpose is the advancement of the species (family), like every other living thing on this planet. Every thing else is either ego or delusion.
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The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence

"Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into his soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep"

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Anybody who thinks evolution explains this shit - don't even bother with this thread... just move on.

I did the astrophysics, molecular biology route. We shouldn't be here at all. Not even the cold dead universe, much less us.

So to the smart people only: If you have come to this truly enlightened conclusion, then I ask only you few people to reply:

=======================================================
What the hell are we, and what is the true nature of
this place we call existence.
I want to hear *YOUR* thoughts.
=======================================================

Everybody else, take your stupid parroted non-thinking pseudo-scientific and your stupid human-created-religious explanations and bugger off. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU.

The rest of you intelligent beings/AI's/or whatever the heck we are, please proceed to share your best ideas of what this is really all about.
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This is all quite the accident. We're here because of ego and vanity from God, who didn't even bother to question his own existence but went straight away claiming there was no other God but Him, when He was just as wrong. Because He is here out of another accident out of ego and vanity when his mother self emanated his being into existence. She thought it would be really neat to do the very same thing that the Monad, the Aeon giving Aeon, the true Spirit, the Father (not God) self emanated the Aeons into being, but she did not understand the Monad is the Father and the Mother that can produce, while she is just a mother would produced (self emanated) with out the Father, so the darkness formed and became the father of God.

Since then it's been a disaster one after another as God tries to create a realm he thinks is perfect because of its dualism. When he breathed his spirit into man and made him a living soul, his essence is a pure light from the mother and the light bears consciousness. That is what we are. God was tricked to breath light into the clay vessels he made because no matter his word he could not make us into beings in this material realm, so the greater Aeon's told him to blow his breath into our clay bodies. The luminous essence left his being and made us alive, however our consciousness is like that of a plant that grows from the fertile earth; it is a natural consequence from the luminous essence of God, from who it came, from the Mother, from who it came, from the Monad, from who it came.

Now, all of man who has luminosity will be collected in the end to recover from the error the Mother had made, but what becomes of our consciousness is a whole matter entirely. It may be joined with the greater luminosity or it may be undone as all else that was fathered by the darkness, I do not know.

This has been discussed and presented here many times before, and you are not the first to ask this very same question, nor is your thread likely the last to be pinned asking the same question.

Peace.
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OP your arrogance is amazing!

My guess is you consider yourself to be one of the "smart" people don't you?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Motion + Emotion =More Motion, thus

Motion = Emotion

so...

A Human brain has the ability to:

"See" Motion sans Emotion (Forget that seeing is motion, will you?)

to "know" Existance is pure consciousness.


Pure Consciousness is explained by itself,

but we like to call it LOVE., because we are HUMAN...thus, it helps greatly to knoW WHAT you are. (As opposed to something else)

Simply, Are you a tiger?

Simply, no.

Are you a human?

Simply, yes.

Are you capable of Unconditional Love?

Yes, but for most only a few milliseconds.

Proceed.
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We are a simulation, Elon Musk is correct, research Quantum theory specifically Entanglement and the double slit experiment.

The truth to it all lies within Ancient SanSkrit, DYOR.
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Writes OP at 8th grade level.
Claims he's 'smart

epiclol
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When you can't explain your existence then you have to give GOD credit

Because you can't explain GOD
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I have been searching for the same answers OP. I have come to the conclusion that they dont want us to know or search. I believe that if you search hard enough, you will find the answer.

They spoonfeed people 2 flavors:

Evolution
Creationism

Thats usually enough to satisfy most people. Not me though. I do believe in the creator, but that doesnt answer why we are here or how we got here.

A lot is hidden from us by some nasty control freaks. The true nature of our existence is hidden...but why? Most likely because those that are running the show arent supposed to be...there arent many reasons for hiding things.

I also dont believe that one man would die and take all of our sins. Why would god allow everyone to get a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want on his sons dime? If I had a son and society killed him and blamed all their sins on him, I'd be fucking furious. Something tells me that is bullshit.

Im sure some of it is true, but typically when someone FORCES you to believe something or the consequences are death...basically they have a gun to your head, Something tells me that they have an agenda.

Even if it were actually true, Im choosing to take responsibility for my own sins. If I have to answer to god for that one day, so be it. Im not putting my mistakes on his sons back. Anyone that tells me Im going to hell for that can fuck off. Its not your place to judge...its gods
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I think you are misunderstanding, it's not a free pass you must have a personal relationship with god to make it into his kingdom. Jesus was here to teach us how to do so. No one not even god himself is forcing you to do anything you don't want too. It is your choice your free will to seek this relationship or not. God loves us all and would like us all to come home but he is giving you the choice to do so. That's why it says the path is narrow and few will seek to find it. Most with go with the crowd and take the easy way the way of the world in which the enemy is happy for you to choose.
This is why YOU must read the Bible and not take another mans word on what gods word actually says.It is not easy and only gets harder when you do find the right path to a relationship with god and the enemy hates god and will do everything in his power to keep you from him. This is his domain this is his world to rule with gods permission to push you onto the correct path. But you need to be aware of the rules laid out in the Bible. If what you hear in your head is not comming from love it is not god it is the enemy. Most people are mad at god for the work the enemy has done to them because they don't understand that god is LOVE that's it in one simple word!
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Energy is intelligent, in and of itself. It has its attractions and replulsions, and knows how to morph itself --as shown in the its many elemental forms, such a gases, solids, metals and whatnot...with radiologicals most easily showing how it can morph itself from one elemental form to another.

Why not into human form?

We are carbon based energy, as are plants...both forms undeniably having intrinsic intelligence, while entirely dependent of other forms of energy, in concert with our own, to thrive. The manifestation of conscious intelligence is just a condition of our needing to 'think' for ourselves, in order to assess what is best for us to utilize, and what's best to avoid.

Consider the plant in the experiment where the interactions of various lab techs 'in its energy space' interacted in positive ways, or, harmful ways. Later in the experiment, a tech who had harmed the plant is seen about to enter the room...and monitors on the plant immediately note that the plant can perceive that danger is near.

Is this not intelligence being manifested 'consciously', or merely the energies of the plant being able to detect the waves of negative energies advancing close by?

I would have liked that particular lab tech to wear a certain cologne, then see if the plant reacted negatively to a tech who has always tended to it supportively and kindly, now wearing the same cologne. That would be interesting.

We can also easily see the energies in various forms of quartz, which we've learned to utilize for our own needs.

All around us we see energy in motion.

It's not a giant leap to see that carbon-based energy proves that energy has intelligence, because energy has somehow found a way to manifest itself into countless millions of lifeforms, each utilizing ONLY WHAT IT NEEDS in order to survive, while developing 'loopholes' for its survival, when repulsive forces invade its otherwise perfect state of existence.

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When I look up into the Universe, or even when simply seeing photographs, I have long mused at the many 'twin stars' that we see, and have thought of them in terms of the intelligence of its energy.

Think about such things enough, and it seems undeniable that nothing in this Universe is 'simply random'. Everything happens for its own 'reason', whether we understand it or not.

Other dimensions? Sure, why not.

Here's one. I can see the Sun, and feel its energy. It's said that it takes a bit more than 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth.

My consideration is that we are always connected, meaning, the light is here. The energy has NEVER YET been broken. There must be a instantaneous 'point a to point b' channels within that light, including the channels of whatever energies there exist that ride along with it.

It's not too much different in aspect to what we consider to be portals, whether or not we're taking spacetime into consideration in our particular musing.

Which brings me back to my own existence.

Think of DNA as an engine. It's helix form is similar to models of our galaxy's motion through the Universe. In my mind, I also think of this helix as the nature of gravitational forces that I picture as its driving force running through the center of our planet.

Of course, I may be wrong on that count, because most of what I 'consider' is simply the result of musing, without benefit of having a formal education on such matters.

Still...all three of these 'examples' serve to illustrate that energy is not random...it is purposeful, and orderly.

Which brings me to our Planet Earth, where energy is manifested in perfect symbiotic clarity...with creatures that sustain it, including humans that are suppose to be maintaining this order, as needful.

We are it's Stewards. The Planets without organisms that operate as homosapiens do here, are all lacking in something that Earth has: that perfect blend of energies that make diverse and conscious life possible.

It matters not if humanity developed here first as a result of energy made manifest and perfected in time, or was implanted here sometime in ages past on a distant world where energy manifested itself even earlier.

We are part of a whole. When energy fails...we fail. If energy increases faster than we can adjust to it, we fail. But...energy survives.

So, energy must be 'intelligent' in every sense of the word as we know it, and in ways we have yet to imagine.

I am just a product of its ultimate manifestation, with my DNA governing how my particular manifestation of this 'intelligence' will, um, 'manifest' itself in time.

I don't believe in 'junk' DNA. I do believe that within it are the keys to what some call 'super powers'.

Sometimes I muse that I would love to live SOMEWHERE where the energies around me are not intruded by those of man-made technologies...so I could try to 'switch on' some of that 95% that now lies dormant within us. But, with all of the satellites circling us, with radio waves and whatnot enveloping us, does such a place actually exist anymore on this Planet?

This is why I spend my time thinking in terms of ancient times, before we managed to upset the balance of the Planet.
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One last point: Why do we exist? To clarify what I said at the start, energy has intelligence, and the greatest manifestation of this, on our Planet, is the human form.

Our conscious intelligence makes us ask WHY we exist.

How about this: to continue to learn how to perfect our existence, and sustain it properly. Is this the musings of of an ultimate 'Utopia'? Can we ever achieve it?

How long wold that last? Probably only until such time where a ginormous meteor once again hits us, or a supervolcano blows, or we find ourselves battling with other conscious entities who invade our planet, or, advance to the point where we begin to digress, Utopia fails, and we annihilate our existence once again...as hinted at in India, or, upon Mars.

All prior civilizations that have existed on this planet that have come and gone have managed to fail at some point, but, humanity trudges on at some point, rising again.

"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another."

It is intelligent, and it's most intelligent manifestation is how we even exist, and, why we do.

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At least THAT'S how I see it.

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I like turtles...
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I helped a giant snapper across the road the other day, so it wouldn't get hit. Made me feel good. Was that feeling real?

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