FOR SMART PEOPLE ONLY: When you realize our existence is impossible...

A self referencing model in this universe always fails. Look up mathematician Kurt Godel.

It's the unsettling truth mathematicians have ignored to this day, like an itch they desperately wish to scratch.

God is the half truth. Yeshua is the whole truth. Why have a relationship with the half truth when you can with the whole?

we are placed here by aliens.
-earth is just a big test to see what will happend, when u put all the diffrent races (humans and animals) in the universe on one small planet.

we all come from different planets,white people on one planet,horses on on planets, asians on one planet, fish etc etc. u get the point.

We are projected from an 'N'-dimensional substrate. Whatever the hell the value of 'N' is. 10? 11? 2?
I get it, and the scientific community needs to get back to the 'garden' of truth. This is a projection.

Lol one word "science" that's all you had to say for us to know what you worship! Science is no more than mans educated guesses "theories" of what our incapable human minds attempt to explain in gods creation. Your statement above is exactly what that line of scripture is sayin people like you will never find it because your perspective is off it must be more like a child's to see how simple it is. Don't over complicate the Bible is meant to be simplified so even a child can understand it. Which just to let you know most children are still in love with our father before the world teaches them they should not and they should follow men of science. Our indoctrination camps we send our kids to to brainwash them to the ways of this world.

No I think you are misunderstanding. I do HAVE a relationship with god and you're assuming that because I want to take responsibility for my ownactions that I "hear thoughts of the enemy".

You know how many "christians" go to church once a week that are "saved"...after they go out partying all weekend fucking like rabbits...cheating, lying, raping kids? Not all but most do judge just like you did to me. If I dont worship the way that YOU do, then I am damned...just like I knew you'd say.

If people werent taught to scapegote their misdeeds on gods so , they wouldnt continue misdeeding. You can sugarcoat it anyway you want, but thats what it is. Ive been around the block and see everyone be tempted. They planted that little voice in you head that says "oh...just one more time, god will forgive me because I accept that gods son died so I can sin"

You are delusional if you see it any other way than that and I pray that God will open your eyes one day.

Stop judging. Its not your place.

I agree OP that we are definitely very very lucky to be here. I think that something superintelligent did create us and I am thankful it did. I hope whatever did make us is still here (it probably is I think) and cares about us (it probably does).

For one it is keeping earth relatively safe and has for a long time. For two it appears that it has a sense of humor. For three it appears for all sense and purposes it would have near total control of humans through multiple ways, including our DNA which clearly has Windows tier backdooors written into it. So you better play nice.

? I think you are confused!

God made all things.

The Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. Always was, always is, always will be. He is uncreated. The I AM.

Our purpose:
To know, love, and serve God in this world, so we may be happy with him in Heaven in the next world.

We cannot love Who we do not know, we cannot serve Who we do not love. Therefore, get to know Him. Read the Bible. Pray and listen to His voice.

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I'm here we're all here because 2 people did the wild thing, beyond that I don't give a shit!

After 25+ years of research I am still not onto complete answers.

What I know with reasonable certainty: (NOT religious)

1. Our lives are controlled by a multigenerational psychopathic group. They have been on our necks for millennia. They extract labor and psychic/emotional energy from us. Also they molest, torture and eat us. War is their creation. They use lots of mind control to hide themselves and their activities/motives.

2. Because of this rigid, multi-layered system that encompasses us from birth to death, it is difficult to know much of anything for sure.

3. Living your life with love and joy is the best coping strategy. One wise person termed it "living between the cracks". I'm so glad I had children. They have made all the difference.

4. When we die, it isn't the end. We just go somewhere else. I have had many clear communications from loved ones on the "other side".

Hope this is helpful, OP.

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Did you read anything I wrote? I was not judging just trying to explain what the Bible says. I never said anything about you or anyone being damed. God does not work that way being damed is not in the Bible god does not want to harm or hurt you in any way he is for you not against you. The enemy is real and this is his domain again that is what the Bible says not me. I can since you are angry at god and it's not your fault brother it's not your fault men have made you feel this way, god loves you and want the best for you as real believers do. Yes humans are broken and do all the things you said and yes they do try to hide behind religion. That is why I said it's about a relationship between you and god not religion. There is no mention of religion in the Bible only the body of Christ which is the church. The church is simply a group of 3 or more believers meeting as stated in the Bible. As for the seed you speak about that would be the enemy tempting you and we are supposed to recognize that this is not gods way not encompassed in love which is the way god speaks to us. Pick up a bible read about the enemy and read about gods character. Then you may view things a little different. I am not perfect and neither is anyone else we are all just trying to get a little closer to god. I meant you no harm brother sorry If I upset you.

Have you ever thought about how your conversation with God will go when you did?

God: Hello human, why should I let you through the gate?

You: well God, I accept that we killed your only son and let him carry all my sins to hell with him

God: so you put all your wrongdoings on my only sin

You: yes sir!

God: so you kept sinning after you accepted my son as your savior?

You: yes sir! I knew you lived us all and would be happy that we put all of our accountability on your only son.

God: get the fuck out of my face. You chose to keep fucking up and making my son pay the price. Why do you think your life is more valuable than his. Depart

Get it? You might want to start putting yourself in gods shoes instead of listening to what the psychopaths that run the world tell you to think.

Id rather take responsibility for my own shit BECAUSE I love God and his son and dont feel its right for him to carry my burden. There is nithing wrong with that.

Im not angry at God at all! I love god and his son, so I choose not to put my burden on his back. Love is a 2 way street. Im sorry you havent figured that out.

I love the part when you said " YOU " did the astrophysics etc...
Who are you lol. Why should I believe YOU over anyone else with their theories lmfao. You are no one.

Yes there is because it's not biblical, if you believe in god and his son than you must believe in his word. Read it and you will see you are mistaken, no one can force you to see things any other way but yourself. You may need to examine your perspective that's all, just try it and you will see things different and feel different. Stop being angry at god he wants you to enjoy and grow spiritually in this life that why he created all of this for own enjoyment!

Its not impossible when there is an intelligent creator behind it. No, evolution, and Darwinism have zero relation to the creators design.


There are higher dimensions which even the most intelligent cam never comprehend. Even if we unlocked the entire capacity of our brains we still wouldnt understand

Those who speak don't know. Those who know don't speak.

we are CONSCIOUSNESS - ever evolving, being enhanced and expanded by the unique perspective of its many individual extensions - collectively - exploring Physicality by BECOMING physical ... learn to master your emotions, and re-establish a natural relationship with Earth/Nature and your full state of consciousness will be restored, if that is your genutine desire.

the answers existed before the questions were asked

I thought as you did before, that Yeshua comes from God, because God is the creator of this world.

But now I understand Yeshua does not come from God because the world is flawed. And the world is flawed because God is flawed. And Yeshua has no flaw.

Im not angry at god, you psychopath! I said that 3 times. With my god given intuition, I sense that we are being led to slaughter.

Because I choose to be accountable for my own actions, it makes me a better person and less likely to stray from God. Thats up to him to tell me I was in the wrong. Not you.

You're putting all your eggs in a book that has been translated and manipulated by men. Im putting all my faith in God, not men.

We shouldn't exist? You're a moron. No one knows the true nature of our existence, who, if anyone, created it, and why we are here. Saying we shouldn't exist is literally one of the dumbest thoughts anyone could have

It's not like that at all.

God cries, and does not speak of a Son.



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Ok then who are you mad at? Other people that are not living the way god expects according to the Bible? Love is a two way street and god wants you to put your burden on him that is part of the relationship brother. Rely on him to free you of your burdens that why he expects you to have a relationship ship with him how can he help you if you do not express to him the burdens you have. That is why he sent his son to open the lines of communication with us again to forgive us as he expects us to forgive others. Like you said it is not our place to judge others in there brokenness only to help them find there way back home to our father.

We are in a machine filled w/ waves of potential existing w/ their own 'polarity'. Individually we are beings of energy existing w/ our own 'polarity' and wave signature or Hertz measurement. Waves becomes solid reality when the polarity of the waves of potential connect and complete a circuit with the electricity/polarity of a being/self.The act of observation.
The hertz signature you entered the machine w/ dictates the reality created as it's unique wave engages the wave of potential in the machine. Note though, you can't change the nature of the waves of potential w/in the machine as they are already all and nothing - that's why they are potential in nature. What you can change though via consciousness is your vibration a.k.a Hertz measurement which will in turn alter how waves potential manifest as your reality.
It's a lot like working on a painting. The canvas is blank and this represents the inside of the machine. There's the self standing in front of the canvas w/ emotion (energy). Between the self and the canvas is a pallet loaded w/ an array base colors (red, yellow, blue) in a variety of tints and hues. If you have the skill there's no color you can't make, this represents potential.
Now begin to paint, if your skill level (consciousness) is low you are pretty much left to the mercy of the experience and will more then likely end up w/ a muddy mess w/ no or minimal definition. W/ skill (consciousness) one can engage the paint and canvas in a manner that produces a viable image. W/ further development of the skill (consciousness) there is the potential to actually create a master piece a.k.a create an extraordinary Life.
That's the 'What' but it doesn't explain the 'Why' you say.
My answer to that - Duh, to learn ya goof ball!

Its like a holodeck we come to in order to have experiences.
What we are when we step in the holodeck I have no idea.

Im not mad at all. Im am at peace.

Why do I have to be mad because Im taking responsibility for my own actions? Is that really so uncommon these days?

Jesus has enough people sins weighing him down. He dont need mine on top of that. If I end up in hell with him because of that then so be it.

I cant see how god would be mad at me for not wanting to add more load on his sons burden.

Im sorry this does not compute with you, but this is where MY intuition has led me. Its my choice, not yours. My words are firm, not angry.

Slaughtered by who? The Bible is the word of god time tested unable to be disproven by men. Men who haves spent there entire lives studying a book as you call it. So instead of relying on goods word you are relying on your own human flawed intuition? Like I said you need to re-evaluate your perspective brother.

It's computes but with errors god wants to take the burden of your sins to forgive you and allow you to forgive yourself more importantly. I never said god would be mad at you that is not possible! You are correct the choice is yours I am just trying to help you understand a little more so you can make a better one that's all!

Really? God dropped the bible off in english and you crossreferenced every word...word for word?

Or was it written in a language you dont speak...by men through god...then translated by flawed men in the version you read today? Because men are so honest and have no agendas whatsoever

I hope your beliefs work out for you. Im done with this conversation.