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Can electricity influence gravity?

 
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That's it. That's gravity. It's not inertia, it's not spin, it's the bending of 4th dimensional space.
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"Space has no properties." (Nikola Tesla) Space cannot be bent. However, the Aether can be perturbed.
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Cool story, bro.
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It's a good question. I would say probably not much.
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Maybe this begins answering your question. Go to Google and search "lifters gravity". You can start here:

[link to jnaudin.free.fr]

Or here:

[link to www.americanantigravity.com]
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
It's a good question. I would say probably not much.
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Then you are probably wrong.
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Yes, there are things called elevators and escalators.
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The magnetic electric field more like it.
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Tesla rules
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Tesla, Oliver Heaviside, and C.P. Steinmetz invented all of the electrical devices used today. Heaviside and Steinmetz invented the math used in Electrical Engineering today.

All three of them felt that gravity was an electrical effect, and that it would be understood as the science of Electrical Engineering advanced in the next few years. (This was in the early 1900's)

They also said that there is no such things as sub-atomic particles (protons, electrons), but these are effects of the Aether.

A funny thing happened, however.

Right at the same time that these 3 engineers, who actually did experiments and invented useful devices, were saying these things, suddenly an obscure clerk named Albert Einstein rose to fame.

Einstein said the opposite: Gravity was almost beyond comprehension, and that there were even more sub-atomic particles than just the electron, etc.

Steinmetz and Heaviside died in the 1920's, and suddenly Einstein and his buddies became heroes. Tesla became marginalized, and died in obscurity in 1943.

Funny how the name of Einstein is held in renown, but few people even have heard of Heaviside and Steinmetz.

Why do you think Einstein and his theories were suddenly promoted?
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That's it. That's gravity. It's not inertia, it's not spin, it's the bending of 4th dimensional space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74756071



"Space has no properties." (Nikola Tesla) Space cannot be bent. However, the Aether can be perturbed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74866170


Cool story, bro.
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Do you disagree with Tesla?
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Mica is opaque to fast moving electrons!
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What if we are stuck to this ball with electro magnetism. Is God micro or macro, as above so below. Best explanation for magnetics that I have seen are in this video. [link to m.youtube.com (secure)]
Loops of ether are the ties that bind? Both macro and micro? It's good to be alive brothers and sisters. Please embed.
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gravity is nothing more than spin

play with a gyroscope some time
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Earths' moon does not spin.

Miraculously, it has gravity.

Not fake news.
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That's it. That's gravity. It's not inertia, it's not spin, it's the bending of 4th dimensional space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74756071



"Space has no properties." (Nikola Tesla) Space cannot be bent. However, the Aether can be perturbed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74866170


Cool story, bro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74756071


Do you disagree with Tesla?
 Quoting: Nick T. 74866170


I agree with my "rubber sheet" explanation. "Aether" nonsense doesn't not take into account the real, measurable effects of a mass in space. Time dilation, for example... which is why GPS satellites must correct for that due to their further distance from Earth's gravity well compared to the surface of the planet.
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"Space has no properties." (Nikola Tesla) Space cannot be bent. However, the Aether can be perturbed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74866170


Cool story, bro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74756071


Do you disagree with Tesla?
 Quoting: Nick T. 74866170


I agree with my "rubber sheet" explanation. "Aether" nonsense doesn't not take into account the real, measurable effects of a mass in space. Time dilation, for example... which is why GPS satellites must correct for that due to their further distance from Earth's gravity well compared to the surface of the planet.
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That so-called time dilation is just a phase shift effect. Tesla and Heaviside would not fall for such nonsense as Quantum Mechanics and Relativity.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity, is a frequency of polarity change. Everything has a charge, only helium and hydrogen has 1s orbital, so frequency is aligning them as positive to positive or negative to negative, so its repel. Everything else it attracted.
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gravity is nothing more than spin

play with a gyroscope some time
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Earths' moon does not spin.

Miraculously, it has gravity.

Not fake news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74663622


Of course it spins! Where did you get that idea?

It happens that, from Earth's point of view, its translation exactly compensates for its rotation, so it always shows the same side to us.

An even more extreme case happens with Pluto and Charon, which are tidally locked, always showing the same face to one another. Yet, both spin. Everything in the universe rotates.
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Faster the frequency, then even hydrogen and helium is attracted. Here on earth frequency is not fast enough to affect only 1s orbital elements.
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Interesting thread!

Apparently, gravity can be altered by several things. . .


One of which is sleepwalking! Vasilotos wrote about the inventor Reichenbach's observations as he studied people who would walk in their sleep around the time of full moon. He said some would walk on other sleeping people and sometimes be found walking rooftops, as if they weighed very little.
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I forgot I was going to ask a question. . .

Have any of you seen electricity above or around an object (regardless of temperature) appearing somewhat like a heat wave - a shimmering effect?

During the last six months or so, (even during the winter) I have seen shimmering waves around the metal frame of our trampoline, and around barbed wire fences, etc... I also think I can see it around the trunk of our ponderosa trees. If I gaze past the edge of the object, the closest 1/8th inch seems to move and flow.
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Hi OP. Cool thread. "YES". Cymatic universe works for me.

Also, on your comment about the B2, the coating is produced in LEO, and is known as D.D (dee dot dee).

It is not necessarily antigravitic, from what I know, rather it is used to decrease drag, whilst still allowing lift!

The coating is also on the bulk of US submarines, and increases the vessel's rate of speed below the surface dramatically, by almost eliminating drag, and cavitation, and on select ships also.

The down side is the need to 'de-gauss' after prolonged use. I know that with the subs, they basically put a looped chain around the hull, which is earthed, and drag it along the hull from bow to stern.

During the GoM disaster, multiple subs surfaced within the oil sheens, and a curious effect was noted. A thin layer of sea water just beneath the oil sheen was measurably magnetised, and radiated out some distance from each vessel, causing all kinds of life forms to 'flock' to the hull.

I have no idea how they de-gauss a carrier, battleship or B2!
It's all about the 'vibe'
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This gravity anomaly map is interesting because it's based on real observations made by satellites.

The interesting thing is that the gravity anomaly fluctuates over time. So clearly some energy/force is shifting real measurements. The most likely source of that energy is the Sun.

[link to bgi.omp.obs-mip.fr]
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Gravity as they have stated it could never be real. Fact, see if their idea of gravity was correct, the birds could not fly pull of gravity would force them to the ground, bumbles could never fly, no plane could push pass the gravity field if gravity was as they claim.

What goes up must come down, true, but that not gravity, the pull on the things going up is gravity in their theory, and keep us people and building from staying on the ground.

You go up in a pressurized plane, do not forget this it is important, the higher you go, you must have a pressurized cabin, or you will float around in the cabin, hopefully with enough oxygen. Pressure has to be added to compensate for the loss of pressure on the earth, why else would you use pressurized cabins? It is not just lack of pressure, you go higher and step out of that plane and the pressure I think it pressure will tare you apart. Same with the crushing of pressure in deep ocean, you have to pressurized or become a pancake.

This and other little bits it seen and heard over the years. Our pressure is different in different places on earth the tall mountain breathing is difficult, this is where oxygen an pressure is involved with each other. So, there as still animals and people who can adapt to these kind of environments their lung grow larger. It just life adapting, and somehow the pressure and oxygen held in a bumble bee allows to fly with the size of it's body to wing size. Ha, they could learn a lot from the shape of a bumble bee, wonder if they have looked into that one, if the get the idea of pressure and oxygen intake and where it is stored.

I am no genus be this seem to be common sense to me, find our how a bumble bee flies.
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a bumblebee flies by creating a vortex underneath its wings by the way they flap. This gives it all the lift it needs. This was published about 10 years ago. How are we to take you seriously if you don't know that?
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Ever heard of electromagnetics?
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Sure! have heard of electrogravitics?
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Must not be real if Wikipedia has an article on it.
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There is zero evidence of gravity
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If you were compelled to do so study the Capacitance theory of gravity by Prof. Morton.
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Inomata a Japanese scientist has conducted experiments and recorded change in mass of an electrically charged condenser in a laboratory. Electrogravitics has been repeated over time by several people but it is quietly swept under the rug by the establishment.
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A new elemental particle has been discovered called the arsicle. It is attracted towards scientists who believe their theories despite no evidence being available to support them.

As these theories take on more and more exotic forms the group of arsicles create a super gravitic effect which in turn creates an unstoppabble superwave of arsicles blinding science and common sense.
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gravity is nothing more than spin

play with a gyroscope some time
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Oh, good Lord...

Gyroscopes do not resist or alter gravity, they resist the change of directions. They fully obey all Newtonian laws. It's the conservation of angular momentum that keeps a gyroscope from tipping over, yet the weight of the lower axis point on whatever is supporting said gyroscope NEVER CHANGES despite the speed of the spinning mass.

Did they stop teaching science in science classes or something?
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I'd like to offer the rudimentary explanation of gravity using the "rubber sheet" concept.

0 dimensions- a point. No height, width, or depth
1 dimenion- a line or line segment. Length only
2 dimensions- a line segment at right angles to itself, i.e. a square. Length and width
3 dimensions- a square at right angles to itself, i.e. a cube. Length, width, and height
4 dimensions- a cube at right angles to itself, i.e. a hypercube or tesseract. Length, width, height, and the final dimension


OK, We can draw a cube on a piece of paper. It's essentially a 2-dimensional representation of a 3-dimensional object. Let's use a rubber sheet, fixed upon a frame to represent 3 dimensions reduced to 2. Length and width remain, but height is reduced to nothing. This sheet represents 4-dimensional space.

Gravity is the result of mass on space. The greater the mass, the greater the gravity. Here's how to visualize it. Take a small ball bearing and roll it across our rubber sheet. It goes right across. The mass of the bearing is tiny. Now, let's take a bowling ball and place it in the center of our rubber sheet. The sheet bows down significantly. This represents a mass's effect on space in the 4th dimension, reduced to 3 dimensions. Let's roll our bearing across again, in a path that will not go toward the bowling ball. The bearing will invariably roll toward the bowling ball. If the bearing has enough speed, it's trajectory will alter, but it will still reach the other side. If not, it will spiral into the well created by the bowling ball. The larger the bowling ball, the greater the gravity well.

That's it. That's gravity. It's not inertia, it's not spin, it's the bending of 4th dimensional space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74756071


Interesting idea. A couple of questions though....

1) Going by the rubber sheet method, would it not mean the Sun (bowling ball) would be lower than the earth (ball bearing) - so it would always be in the southern hemisphere?

2) Would the moon take the same path as the earth on the rubber sheet, rather than spin around the earth?
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
charge frequency magnetism.simple once you realize theres no such thing as an absolute vacuum.then you realize that means theres atoms everywhere.then you just need a highly efficient propeller.a charged pulsing magnetic field propeller that creates a vortex like a bee underneath it.

next class kids,how invisibility works.

for advanced class students,we will do faster than light travel.

robomonts school of exotic physics.

oh and hutchinson is a scam artist.
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Ever heard of the Electric Universe Theory? Don't think they taught in at us skool sbus
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I forgot I was going to ask a question. . .

Have any of you seen electricity above or around an object (regardless of temperature) appearing somewhat like a heat wave - a shimmering effect?

During the last six months or so, (even during the winter) I have seen shimmering waves around the metal frame of our trampoline, and around barbed wire fences, etc... I also think I can see it around the trunk of our ponderosa trees. If I gaze past the edge of the object, the closest 1/8th inch seems to move and flow.
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