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Can electricity influence gravity?

 
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I forgot I was going to ask a question. . .

Have any of you seen electricity above or around an object (regardless of temperature) appearing somewhat like a heat wave - a shimmering effect?

During the last six months or so, (even during the winter) I have seen shimmering waves around the metal frame of our trampoline, and around barbed wire fences, etc... I also think I can see it around the trunk of our ponderosa trees. If I gaze past the edge of the object, the closest 1/8th inch seems to move and flow.
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St Elmo's Fire?
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That was great Movie two thumb up cool2
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I forgot I was going to ask a question. . .

Have any of you seen electricity above or around an object (regardless of temperature) appearing somewhat like a heat wave - a shimmering effect?

During the last six months or so, (even during the winter) I have seen shimmering waves around the metal frame of our trampoline, and around barbed wire fences, etc... I also think I can see it around the trunk of our ponderosa trees. If I gaze past the edge of the object, the closest 1/8th inch seems to move and flow.
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St Elmo's Fire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74874553


That was great Movie two thumb up cool2
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St Elmo's Fire is a static electricity effect around an object, especially seen on the top of masts of ships, etc.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Yes. A kitchen appliance once electrocuted me, and I hit the ground like a ton of bricks. In reality, I'm much lighter than a ton, so there you go.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
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Tesla rules
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Tesla, Oliver Heaviside, and C.P. Steinmetz invented all of the electrical devices used today. Heaviside and Steinmetz invented the math used in Electrical Engineering today.

All three of them felt that gravity was an electrical effect, and that it would be understood as the science of Electrical Engineering advanced in the next few years. (This was in the early 1900's)

They also said that there is no such things as sub-atomic particles (protons, electrons), but these are effects of the Aether.

A funny thing happened, however.

Right at the same time that these 3 engineers, who actually did experiments and invented useful devices, were saying these things, suddenly an obscure clerk named Albert Einstein rose to fame.

Einstein said the opposite: Gravity was almost beyond comprehension, and that there were even more sub-atomic particles than just the electron, etc.

Steinmetz and Heaviside died in the 1920's, and suddenly Einstein and his buddies became heroes. Tesla became marginalized, and died in obscurity in 1943.

Funny how the name of Einstein is held in renown, but few people even have heard of Heaviside and Steinmetz.

Why do you think Einstein and his theories were suddenly promoted?
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
You need a magnetic field of 1000s Tesla to neutralise earth's magnetic field and that translates to lots of juice
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
A new elemental particle has been discovered called the arsicle. It is attracted towards scientists who believe their theories despite no evidence being available to support them.

As these theories take on more and more exotic forms the group of arsicles create a super gravitic effect which in turn creates an unstoppabble superwave of arsicles blinding science and common sense.
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^ True story.....tounge
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So having a long term interest in this subject I am interested in GLP's opinion..
It is known that Tesla was interested in gravity and wrote a paper that suggested that it was related to EM waves:
[link to www.netowne.com]

It is also 'suggested' that the B2 bomber uses a charged hull to achieve weight reduction:
[link to www.drboylan.com]

Then there is the 'theory' of rotating super-conductors creating a gravitic shield effect?
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

How do we test this on a budget?
 Quoting: mekon666

Using the electricity to generate a major magnetic field will influence gravity. There is cross-talk between gravitational and magnetic forces beyond the simple notion that magnetic fields counteract gravity.

An experiment was run decades ago in which a heavily magnetized sphere and a non-magnetized ball were dropped ffrom same height at exactly the same time. The non-magnetized ball ALWAYS hit the ground first.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
ano1 I'm no expert but I'd guess that it would have a least a very weak influence. Kind of like some miners say that gold dust has a very weak affinity for magnetism.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
if it is used to burn something and reduce it's mass, then yes

other way, no

let me know if you see ionized plasma from the Sun influence Earth's gravity
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Ever heard of electromagnetics?
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Tesla knew...
he even called out Einstein on his bullsh*t...
never even prove the theory of gravity...

but all the sheeple have been buying it for generations...
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Ever heard of electromagnetics?
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Tesla knew...
he even called out Einstein on his bullsh*t...
never even prove the theory of gravity...

but all the sheeple have been buying it for generations...
einstein-duh11
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Your user name shows you are a Flat-Earther, unlike Tesla.

Einstein was wrong, but so is FE. The effect called "Gravity" is not caused by density.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Do you have any info on this 'theory'?
I mean it doesn't make sense as written, as in static electricity is an imbalance of charge in matter (so it's not fundamental - but maybe charge/matter is!..)
And magnetism is a result of a flow of electrons.
And you say electricity (current) and gravity are hybrid forces?
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Do you have any info on this 'theory'?
I mean it doesn't make sense as written, as in static electricity is an imbalance of charge in matter (so it's not fundamental - but maybe charge/matter is!..)
And magnetism is a result of a flow of electrons.
And you say electricity (current) and gravity are hybrid forces?
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And whatever you've been smoking I want some :)
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Do you have any info on this 'theory'?
I mean it doesn't make sense as written, as in static electricity is an imbalance of charge in matter (so it's not fundamental - but maybe charge/matter is!..)
And magnetism is a result of a flow of electrons.
And you say electricity (current) and gravity are hybrid forces?
 Quoting: mekon666


And whatever you've been smoking I want some :)
 Quoting: mekon666


And what is the reason the electrons flow? It's because there is a charge imbalance. If there is an imbalance, the magnetic fields will reach out and help it find the electrons it needs. Magnetic fields are Mother Nature throwing a lasso around in the environment trying to create a balance of electrons. Only when there's a balance does she get to rest.

And how is she going to push and pull what she needs and doesn't need? Pressure.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Do you have any info on this 'theory'?
I mean it doesn't make sense as written, as in static electricity is an imbalance of charge in matter (so it's not fundamental - but maybe charge/matter is!..)
And magnetism is a result of a flow of electrons.
And you say electricity (current) and gravity are hybrid forces?
 Quoting: mekon666


I used "static electricity" as a simplified term for the "Dielectricity" described by Faraday, Tesla, and Steinmetz. This describes the fundamental charge inside the atom itself.

(I am not talking about the common usage of the words to describe a gross difference in electrical charge as seen when rubbing a balloon on your hair.)

Dielectricty and magnetism are the two (and the only two) fundamental forces.

Dielectricty tends to compress inwards, and is strongest when compressed the most. (I am talking about the sub-atomic level; in large-scale terms, think of the plates of a capacitor; the capacity increases as the distance between them decreases.)

Magnetism tends to expand outwards.

Dielectricity under the expanding influence of magnetism is called an electric current.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Complete bullshit.
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Has anyone on GLP attempted to recreate the hutchison effect?
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Study how they build anti gravity chambers.



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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
So having a long term interest in this subject I am interested in GLP's opinion..
It is known that Tesla was interested in gravity and wrote a paper that suggested that it was related to EM waves:
[link to www.netowne.com]

It is also 'suggested' that the B2 bomber uses a charged hull to achieve weight reduction:
[link to www.drboylan.com]

Then there is the 'theory' of rotating super-conductors creating a gravitic shield effect?
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

How do we test this on a budget?
 Quoting: mekon666


Gravity (Magnetism) vs Electricity.

Now which came first?

The only reason modern scientists do not understand magnetism is because it can only be noticed by its effects.

While light can clearly be seen.

Scientist only know electromagnetism. This will get them nowhere because they are essentially applying a lower element to a higher one without realizing there are many spectrums within both (just like light).

Thread: everything is electricity - Nikola tesla hidden interview (Page 2)

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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
So having a long term interest in this subject I am interested in GLP's opinion..
It is known that Tesla was interested in gravity and wrote a paper that suggested that it was related to EM waves:
[link to www.netowne.com]

It is also 'suggested' that the B2 bomber uses a charged hull to achieve weight reduction:
[link to www.drboylan.com]

Then there is the 'theory' of rotating super-conductors creating a gravitic shield effect?
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

How do we test this on a budget?
 Quoting: mekon666


Gravity (Magnetism) vs Electricity.

Now which came first?

The only reason modern scientists do not understand magnetism is because it can only be noticed by its effects.

While light can clearly be seen.

Scientist only know electromagnetism. This will get them nowhere because they are essentially applying a lower element to a higher one without realizing there are many spectrums within both (just like light).

Thread: everything is electricity - Nikola tesla hidden interview (Page 2)

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Alternating current. Dielectric magnetism, create artificial vacuum--changes orientation of mass in the inertial field---to affect 'gravity'. Or--change frequency of light or vibration of matter (particle-wave) to achieve electrostatic alteration of 'gravity' (i.e. affecting the density of energy condensed into matter).
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Re: Can electricity influence gravity?
Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Complete bullshit.
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Is that you, Albert?
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Gravity is static electricity
 Quoting: Lumis 73179037


Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Complete bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48994926


Is that you, Albert?
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Not complete bullshit.

Without those elements working in 'combination', the 'material' world would not exist.

This applies to both material and immaterial realms of existence.

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Want to get your hero-worship beliefs about Tesla crushed?

Read this and extrapolate.

"Never before had I imagined somebody to invent an earthquake machine! I was invited to Tesla's Manhattan laboratory where he showed me this device he said would usually produce an earthquake within a certain radius of the earthquake machine operator. Why, I was shocked when he actually caused short earthquake that was completely under his control! Tesla mentioned off-hand that he had been working on other powerful devices. I recall another time where Tesla was able to seemingly control lightening! By God, it just does not seem right that a mortal man should be able to control the elements such as does Tesla. He is a dangerous man!" - Mark Twain

Yeah, Tesla built the modern War Machine. The free energy thing was a ruse. All of his tech, if he really did invent anything, was used for War and Subjugation of Humanity.
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Wrong. Read the problem of increasing human warfare. Tesla spoke out against warfare, and deemed it a frictional force impeding mans progress.

He created devices out of sheer curiosity and an inability to reign in his own genius at times, never intending for them to be used for nefarious reasons.
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Want to get your hero-worship beliefs about Tesla crushed?

Read this and extrapolate.

"Never before had I imagined somebody to invent an earthquake machine! I was invited to Tesla's Manhattan laboratory where he showed me this device he said would usually produce an earthquake within a certain radius of the earthquake machine operator. Why, I was shocked when he actually caused short earthquake that was completely under his control! Tesla mentioned off-hand that he had been working on other powerful devices. I recall another time where Tesla was able to seemingly control lightening! By God, it just does not seem right that a mortal man should be able to control the elements such as does Tesla. He is a dangerous man!" - Mark Twain

Yeah, Tesla built the modern War Machine. The free energy thing was a ruse. All of his tech, if he really did invent anything, was used for War and Subjugation of Humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4255672


Wrong. Read the problem of increasing human warfare. Tesla spoke out against warfare, and deemed it a frictional force impeding mans progress.

He created devices out of sheer curiosity and an inability to reign in his own genius at times, never intending for them to be used for nefarious reasons.
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EDIT: The Problem of Increasing Human Energy.

Written by Tesla himself.
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Want to get your hero-worship beliefs about Tesla crushed?

Read this and extrapolate.

"Never before had I imagined somebody to invent an earthquake machine! I was invited to Tesla's Manhattan laboratory where he showed me this device he said would usually produce an earthquake within a certain radius of the earthquake machine operator. Why, I was shocked when he actually caused short earthquake that was completely under his control! Tesla mentioned off-hand that he had been working on other powerful devices. I recall another time where Tesla was able to seemingly control lightening! By God, it just does not seem right that a mortal man should be able to control the elements such as does Tesla. He is a dangerous man!" - Mark Twain

Yeah, Tesla built the modern War Machine. The free energy thing was a ruse. All of his tech, if he really did invent anything, was used for War and Subjugation of Humanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4255672


Wrong. Read the problem of increasing human warfare. Tesla spoke out against warfare, and deemed it a frictional force impeding mans progress.

He created devices out of sheer curiosity and an inability to reign in his own genius at times, never intending for them to be used for nefarious reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72752453


To be given the keys to understanding creation you must prove yourself worthy.

Tesla obviously was, but his collective clearly was not.

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Close, but to be more precise:

There are only 2 fundamental forces: Static Electricity and Magnetism.

There are 2 hybrid forces: Electricity and Gravity.

Electricity is caused by the action of Magnetism upon Static Electricity.

Gravity is caused by the action of Static Electricity upon Magnetism.
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Complete bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48994926


Is that you, Albert?
 Quoting: Nick Tesla 75106880


Not complete bullshit.

Without those elements working in 'combination', the 'material' world would not exist.

This applies to both material and immaterial realms of existence.

....
 Quoting: Abisme 75109689



The funny thing is that people can actually feel the magnetic force on the macroscopic level when playing with magnets in their hand.

They can feel the "push" when they try to bring two powerful magnets (of the same "polarity") close together.

Yet, if you ask them how atoms (and by extension, all matter) has volume, they think that must be a completely different set of forces.


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