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Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"

 
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They think people have short memory. I don't. Anyone remembers this? Now imagine how things are going nowadays behind the stages.
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

"How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat"

The sugar industry paid scientists in the 1960s to play down the link between sugar and heart disease and promote saturated fat as the culprit instead, newly released historical documents show.(...)

See how they can forge any research?
I don't believe in that people in a long time. But there are good scientists out there. You only need to separate the shaft from wheat. For that, you have to be a very well informed person. Knowledge is power indeed.
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I swear by God that any oil except olive oil is bad, is counterfeit. Don't eat that.

Sugar is good. That it's bad is a lie.
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Even olive oil can be counterfeit.In my country we are very picky with the quality of olive oil and there was a scandal in olive oil industry here, not long ago, concerning the extra virgin olive oil was not 100% extra virgin at all. Luckily, consumer defense association(DECO) found out.
If you want diabetes or rotten teeth, not to mention cancer cells love sugar, go ahead, consume it yourself.I try to limit to a very minimum intake.
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I meant that no oil, except olive oil, should be called oil. A lubricant yes, but not oil.

I live off of sugar in fruits, I eat almost nothing else. (Pasta & fruits that's all). It's a lie that sucrose is evil while fructose isn't. They're mere isomers.
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My research tells me otherwise about sugar.
The culprit is white refined sugar.Zero nutritional value.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
So coconut oil had been killing people since 1950's. I thought it just gain popularity in past decade:)
As i scientist my self, i can tell you for a fact,any ugly truth can be twisted into beautiful lie and vice versa
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It impairs normal brain function. Anthropophages frowned upon anything but jan-u-wine copra oil.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
Here is the report:

[link to circ.ahajournals.org]

News outlets are interpreting it as saying coconut oil is bad.
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Coconuts come from palm trees

Palms are what you use to masterbate

Masterbation is evil

Therefore, coconuts are bad
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Holy Shit! Meaning of life right there buddy.

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American Heart Association came out with new report saying coconut oil is bad for you.

Who is paying for this misinformation?
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Good! More coconut oil for me!!
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So coconut oil had been killing people since 1950's. I thought it just gain popularity in past decade:)
As i scientist my self, i can tell you for a fact,any ugly truth can be twisted into beautiful lie and vice versa
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lmao I know.



But good and honest scientists still out there. Not all are corrupt. Some are just misinformed. Peer reviewing = bsflag
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COCONUT OIL IS ONLY BAD FOR YOU IF U DONT TAKE ENOUGH FIBRE TO MATCH THE INTAKE OF OIL. Thats all end off move onfuckyeah5
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COCONUT OIL IS ONLY BAD FOR YOU IF U DONT TAKE ENOUGH FIBRE TO MATCH THE INTAKE OF OIL. Thats all end off move onfuckyeah5
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Don't forget Omega3.
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Here is the report:

[link to circ.ahajournals.org]

News outlets are interpreting it as saying coconut oil is bad.
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This is another convoluted CIA plot to weaken the Philippines, which is the #2 coconut exporter to the U.S. in the world. I's worth a billion dollars to them and CIA wants to keep them under control by destroying their ability to purchase weapons from Russia to control domestic drug/sex economy and "terrorism."

CIA think they are clever, but only when dealing with lobotomized sheep :P. Of course, CIA are simply muscle for central Bank (sic). Take the predatory loans and "restructuring" or CIA will change up your structure for you. If that fails... bombs.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
What's going on is that the AHA reiterated their stance on saturated fats being bad for you. The article was, among places, in MedScape news. The article is called "AHA Issues 'Presidential Advisory' on Harms of Saturated Fat"

Now the real gold are some of the comments by RN's, physicians (even some cardiologists). Lots of them have woke up and RIPPED the AHA a new one in the comment section in MedScape. They also rip into canola oil and margarine.
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Saturated fats are the building blocks of your brain and nervous system. Your brain and nerves are made of cholesterol. Also cholesterol is a basic building block of the necessary hormones of your body, if I'm not mistaken.

you need cholesterol, and your body only produces 10% of what you need. The rest has to come from your diet.

Seriously, your brain is made of cholesterol!!! They're trying to kill you, it's impossible to deny.

The reason it seems like cholesterol clogs your arteries, is because your arteries get damaged, they get lesions from lack of minerals and vitamin C. Then your body uses cholesterol to cover the lesions so your blood doesn't leak out.

Cholesterol isn't the problem. It's weak veins caused by mineral deficiencies and lack of vitamin C that is the problem.

At least that's my understanding.
 Quoting: Vision Thing



Yes...

Gotta have good fats... Organic grass fed butter, avocados, cold pressed extra virgin coconut oil/olive oil...


Medication they give for leaky gut kills the good cholesterol which keeps the brain healthy...hence dementia...brain drys up...no more electrodes firing properly.

When coconut oil given to a dementia patient the individual reverses demise and rebounds back to health.

Same thing a cancer patient is given crappy sugar processed products in the hospital... It's incredibly insane because cancer thrives on sugar!

The Mengele's don't want you healthy...you are their experiments and cash cows.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
What's going on is that the AHA reiterated their stance on saturated fats being bad for you. The article was, among places, in MedScape news. The article is called "AHA Issues 'Presidential Advisory' on Harms of Saturated Fat"

Now the real gold are some of the comments by RN's, physicians (even some cardiologists). Lots of them have woke up and RIPPED the AHA a new one in the comment section in MedScape. They also rip into canola oil and margarine.
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Saturated fats are the building blocks of your brain and nervous system. Your brain and nerves are made of cholesterol. Also cholesterol is a basic building block of the necessary hormones of your body, if I'm not mistaken.

you need cholesterol, and your body only produces 10% of what you need. The rest has to come from your diet.

Seriously, your brain is made of cholesterol!!! They're trying to kill you, it's impossible to deny.

The reason it seems like cholesterol clogs your arteries, is because your arteries get damaged, they get lesions from lack of minerals and vitamin C. Then your body uses cholesterol to cover the lesions so your blood doesn't leak out.

Cholesterol isn't the problem. It's weak veins caused by mineral deficiencies and lack of vitamin C that is the problem.

At least that's my understanding.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


I think the main cause of cardiovascular disease is chlorine in the water supply.
barnacle boy
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You'd have to be a complete idiot to believe anything the media has to say...oh wait.pffft-spitsmoke
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
Been taking coconut oil for over a year now, nearly two. Can honestly say my health has been pretty much good. No more toothache, no more mouth abcesses. Fuck the pseudo scientists and their fake bullshit. I am not giving up my coconut oil.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
American Heart Association came out with new report saying coconut oil is bad for you.

Who is paying for this misinformation?
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that reminds me, I have egg rolls in the fridge that have to be fried in coconut oil.

all fried food is acrylic and it might be toxic for arterial walls
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You should plant a Canola tree and get free oil for the taking.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
Yep boys and girls, eating coconut oil and other good fats is bad for you.

Please avoid the good fats, due to the following risks:

Improved blood pressure.
Higher good cholesterol.
Lower bad cholesterol.
Lower triglycerides.
Weight loss.
Improved mental health.
barnacle boy
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You should plant a Canola tree and get free oil for the taking.
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Ha!

LOL!

Canola tree... 1rof11rof11rof1



The words...
"Canada" + "oil" = the word "canola"...
which is made from rapeseed weeds...
Complete poison!
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06/19/2017 01:30 PM
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
The Moneycrats need you to eat your GMO Canola and Vegetable oils

And the fluoride

And the aluminum

And the statins

They NEED their luxuries after all.

Obey
Obey
Obey
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06/19/2017 01:32 PM
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American Heart Association came out with new report saying coconut oil is bad for you.

Who is paying for this misinformation?
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The Fed also said you don't have to floss your teeth...

Does it make it so?

I don't think so.
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I received the propaganda email from a friend last night .. Told her stop being a sheep
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There's no better way to force you to do something than forcing you to do the opposite.
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So correct tard

My grandparents ate all the oils and whiskeys , smoke cigs and lived into their 90's , on no medication whatsoever..

run along and get your vaccine
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They're doing the same thing with Aspirin lately too. One day they tell you it's great, the next day it's terrible.
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
You dumb fucks. Coconut water is known to cause heart issues.

[link to www.gobyme.com]

The shit is deadly when it's just used as water. Imagine how much worse it is when it is made into oil.

You do know that this is all fueled by coconut lobbyists in DC? Right?
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The Moneycrats need you to eat your GMO Canola, Vegetable, coconut, oils

And the fluoride

And the aluminum

And the statins

They NEED their luxuries after all.

Obey
Obey
Obey
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
Here is a very good response I read from an anonymous source today:

"I do not consume large amounts of coconut oil for any reason, so I don't have a horse in the race for promoting it! I want to comment on the AHA's 7 controlled studies so you guys can understand some health facts. What the studies seem to show is an IMBALANCE of saturated fats from coconut oil causing inflammation and thus the increase of LDL cholesterol. The cholesterol doesn't "cause" heart disease, it is a healing reaction of the body, but also an indicator of inflammation.

Fact #1 Every normal human cell in your body has a membrane composed of fatty acids (all types: saturated, poly, and mono-unsaturated) and cholesterol, and the membrane's functions are to allow nutrients, water, hormones, neurotransmitters and whatever else that particular cell needs, in and out, as well as give the cell structure. 40-80% of our cells are membrane (and thus, fat). You absolutely need to consume fat to keep the integrity of your cells' structure, but only 2 are ESSENTIAL (you have to consume them from outside, and both happen to be polyunsaturated): Linoleic acid (omega 6) and Alpha linoleic acid (omega 3).

Fact #2 White blood cells are part of your immunity and are like soldiers in your body that are called to action to protect you from foreign invaders. Sometimes when you have a test showing those cells are elevated, it is an indicator of a serious disease but the cells themselves are NOT CAUSING the disease, do you understand? They were just called to action because something is seriously wrong and they're needed. Same concept with cholesterol. It's intellectually dishonest for articles to post "LDL cholesterol causes heart disease" when that is like saying firefighters cause fires, because, well, where there's a fire you'll find firefighters. When any damaging agent gets into our bloodstream whether it's a toxic chemical, infectious organism, free radical or whatnot, the endothelium (inner surface of blood vessels) sends a message to the liver to send Low Density Lipoproteins to the wounded endothelium; this is inflammation. The wound heals and the cholesterol travels back to the liver in a High Density Lipoprotein instead. Your body cannot clear the infection, or removed the toxic elements, or heal the would without cholesterol and fats. Doctors, instead of asking "WTF is going on to cause all the need for this cholesterol?" are trained to attack the cholesterol itself.

Fact #3 Prostaglandins are hormone‐like substances the body cannot do without. They occur in nearly all body tissues and fluids. They are formed (conjugated) from elongated forms of EFAs (essential fatty acids) and are thought to be synthesized in the cells’ membranes. They control the body's inflammatory and anti-inflammatory reactions, and are categorized into 3 basic groups (but more research is changing that): P1, P2 and P3. P1 & P3 are anti-inflammatory, and P2 is pro-inflammatory. I've attached a chart of Prostaglandins and what fats make them up. As you can see, coconut oil falls into the P2 or pro-inflammatory category--but you NEED to be able to inflame to heal. Where things go awry is when you aren't consuming enough Omega 6 and Omega 3 (most people get enough omega 6 fatty acids) to create the P1 and P3 to bring the inflammation down. Low level, chronic, inflamed states are the main cause of heart disease--that's that endothelial lining being attacked and unable to heal!

My theory is that if these studies are very controlled, and it is indeed coconut oil (How much? How often? What other fats are the subjects eating? Were the studies funded by the vegetable oil companies? Frank Sacks, the head honcho, has a very impressive resume and is highly respected, but a lot of his weight loss studies are funded by The National Institutes of Health, or NIH, the primary agency of the United States government responsible for biomedical and public health research--same agency that promotes fluoride for tooth decay and I thought fluoride is highly toxic?), then as you can see, eating way too much coconut oil IS INDEED pro-inflammatory and makes sense as to why it would increase LDL cholesterol. The solution? Instead of freaking out, just don't consume large amounts in relation to the amount of Alpha Linoleic Acid, or omega 3.

Sorry about the long winded post. Nutrition is extremely complicated and contradictory depending on wording and the accuracy of so-called controlled studies. I dislike seeing hysteria, misinformation and reposting with no basis in biology. I highly recommend "Put Your Heart in Your Mouth" by Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, M.D. as a starting point if you're concerned about heart disease.

Last fact: The main cause of heart disease is: INFLAMMATION CAUSED BY THE OVER-CONSUMPTION OF PROCESSED FOODS. Remember that vegetable oils are processed, coconut oil is not. But anything out of balance can be harmful. Never forget the lady who went into a coma because she ate 2 pounds of bok choy for months."

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WOW thats ridiculous
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You dumb fucks. Coconut water is known to cause heart issues.

[link to www.gobyme.com]

The shit is deadly when it's just used as water. Imagine how much worse it is when it is made into oil.

You do know that this is all fueled by coconut lobbyists in DC? Right?
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troll
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Re: Who is paying to demonize coconut oil? Something is fishy about this new "report"
You dumb fucks. Coconut water is known to cause heart issues.

[link to www.gobyme.com]

The shit is deadly when it's just used as water. Imagine how much worse it is when it is made into oil.

You do know that this is all fueled by coconut lobbyists in DC? Right?
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troll
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LOL dude, you are shilling for a SJW company that promotes cococnut shit and you don't even know it.
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WALMART since AMAZON just bought WHOLE FOODS
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Well, this is confirmation that anything they do not want you to eat is what you SHOULD eat. Coconut oil is one of the healthiest!
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True, just like red meat and whole milk were supposed to be bad for you.
Though I would take their advice on ingesting cyanide.
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last time coconut oil was DEMONIZED the main exporter of the product had a "civil" war where muslims slaughtered all infidels leaving the place as a predominently muslim nation.
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Been taking coconut oil for over a year now, nearly two. Can honestly say my health has been pretty much good. No more toothache, no more mouth abcesses. Fuck the pseudo scientists and their fake bullshit. I am not giving up my coconut oil.
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What type do you buy friend of the Mother land?





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