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DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with the explosion of veganism in the last 10 years I was wondering why? I believe anything that goes mainstream Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75105464 must have some kind of agenda behind it. I read 1 timothy which says Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 So it hit me is this modern day veganism? I don't think theres any thing wrong with being vegetarian, But this vegan movment has a huge new age movment behind it. It feels like a religion, and ties in a lot of spiritual practices to it, If you look at the history of it. It first begins in India, The other thing is the become so obsessed with there diet it takes over there entire lives. they have to plan every moment of there day around this diet. Also there could come a time where society it self falls apart and if your a vegan you will not survive, due to the fact that we will have to eat what ever you find anyways tell me what you think Veganism is no more a doctrine of demons than it was in the days of Adam and Eve. Man's original diet did not include animals products at all. Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Man's original diet is fruits and seeds. There is nothing wrong with wanting to go back to the original diet (as you should) as we march on towards the promised land. As a matter of fact, you should strive for that. Animals are more or less diseased in today's day and age. And, we have a way to get B12 if you're concerned about that. B12 comes from bacteria, and actually animals are fed B12. Ancient Israel had meat removed from their diet when they were traveling to the promised land. Numbers 11:6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes. If anything removing meat is something that should be done. That is more of a necessity. However, to be a Vegan is not to follow a doctrine of demons. Last Edited by DGenesis1:29 on 06/19/2017 11:38 AM |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75105464 Germany 06/19/2017 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with the explosion of veganism in the last 10 years I was wondering why? I believe anything that goes mainstream Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75105464 must have some kind of agenda behind it. I read 1 timothy which says Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 So it hit me is this modern day veganism? I don't think theres any thing wrong with being vegetarian, But this vegan movment has a huge new age movment behind it. It feels like a religion, and ties in a lot of spiritual practices to it, If you look at the history of it. It first begins in India, The other thing is the become so obsessed with there diet it takes over there entire lives. they have to plan every moment of there day around this diet. Also there could come a time where society it self falls apart and if your a vegan you will not survive, due to the fact that we will have to eat what ever you find anyways tell me what you think Veganism is no more a doctrine of demons than it was in the days of Adam and Eve. Man's original diet did not include animals products at all. Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Man's original diet is fruits and seeds. There is nothing wrong with wanting to go back to the original diet (as you should) as we march on towards the promised land. As a matter of fact, you should strive for that. Animals are more or less diseased in today's day and age. And, we have a way to get B12 if you're concerned about that. B12 comes from bacteria, and actually animals are fed B12. Ancient Israel had meat removed from their diet when they were traveling to the promised land. Numbers 11:6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes. If anything removing meat is something that should be done. That is more of a necessity. However, to be a Vegan is not to follow a doctrine of demons. I think eat clean is good, the only thing that bothers me is the mentality behind the vegan movment its very new age |
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DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 False. Man does not require meat to live. It wasn't even permitted until after the flood of Noah because all the vegetation had been wiped out. Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. Meat is literally an emergency food. As for your health, I am sorry about that. Many who go Vegan misunderstand how to do it properly. Simply giving up meat does not help man, if he is not careful in his food selection and his food choices. |
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DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with the explosion of veganism in the last 10 years I was wondering why? I believe anything that goes mainstream Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75105464 must have some kind of agenda behind it. I read 1 timothy which says Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 So it hit me is this modern day veganism? I don't think theres any thing wrong with being vegetarian, But this vegan movment has a huge new age movment behind it. It feels like a religion, and ties in a lot of spiritual practices to it, If you look at the history of it. It first begins in India, The other thing is the become so obsessed with there diet it takes over there entire lives. they have to plan every moment of there day around this diet. Also there could come a time where society it self falls apart and if your a vegan you will not survive, due to the fact that we will have to eat what ever you find anyways tell me what you think Veganism is no more a doctrine of demons than it was in the days of Adam and Eve. Man's original diet did not include animals products at all. Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Man's original diet is fruits and seeds. There is nothing wrong with wanting to go back to the original diet (as you should) as we march on towards the promised land. As a matter of fact, you should strive for that. Animals are more or less diseased in today's day and age. And, we have a way to get B12 if you're concerned about that. B12 comes from bacteria, and actually animals are fed B12. Ancient Israel had meat removed from their diet when they were traveling to the promised land. Numbers 11:6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes. If anything removing meat is something that should be done. That is more of a necessity. However, to be a Vegan is not to follow a doctrine of demons. I think eat clean is good, the only thing that bothers me is the mentality behind the vegan movment its very new age Clean meats are permitted for mankind to eat. But when we have the abundance of what we have surrounding us, there is no reason for the eating of it. Especially considering you can get much better nutrition from the plants, instead of eating them second-hand from the dead beast. As for the mentality, it depends on what you mean. There is definitely a lot of infighting in some vegan circles. Sometimes there is a ton of arrogance as well, which can be very off putting. Approach is something to definitely be considered. However, veganism in and of itself, is not a doctrine of demons. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75105464 Germany 06/19/2017 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 False. Man does not require meat to live. It wasn't even permitted until after the flood of Noah because all the vegetation had been wiped out. Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. Meat is literally an emergency food. As for your health, I am sorry about that. Many who go Vegan misunderstand how to do it properly. Simply giving up meat does not help man, if he is not careful in his food selection and his food choices. so what does this verse mean then? Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. |
DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus helped them make use with what they had at that time. And the condition of the animals in our time is nowhere near the condition that then existed. As the sins of mankind have increased, so has disease, not just in man, but in animals as well. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63828314 United States 06/19/2017 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus helped them make use with what they had at that time. And the condition of the animals in our time is nowhere near the condition that then existed. As the sins of mankind have increased, so has disease, not just in man, but in animals as well. You are full of shit and don't know the Bible. Who are you to speak for what nutrition people need today? Most people need meat and eggs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42066148 South Africa 06/19/2017 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So with the explosion of veganism in the last 10 years I was wondering why? I believe anything that goes mainstream Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75105464 must have some kind of agenda behind it. I read 1 timothy which says Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 So it hit me is this modern day veganism? I don't think theres any thing wrong with being vegetarian, But this vegan movment has a huge new age movment behind it. It feels like a religion, and ties in a lot of spiritual practices to it, If you look at the history of it. It first begins in India, The other thing is the become so obsessed with there diet it takes over there entire lives. they have to plan every moment of there day around this diet. Also there could come a time where society it self falls apart and if your a vegan you will not survive, due to the fact that we will have to eat what ever you find anyways tell me what you think Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 OP is right, you know. Five stars and a pin request. :fivestars: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42066148 South Africa 06/19/2017 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus helped them make use with what they had at that time. And the condition of the animals in our time is nowhere near the condition that then existed. As the sins of mankind have increased, so has disease, not just in man, but in animals as well. You are full of shit and don't know the Bible. Who are you to speak for what nutrition people need today? Most people need meat and eggs. |
DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 False. Man does not require meat to live. It wasn't even permitted until after the flood of Noah because all the vegetation had been wiped out. Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. Meat is literally an emergency food. As for your health, I am sorry about that. Many who go Vegan misunderstand how to do it properly. Simply giving up meat does not help man, if he is not careful in his food selection and his food choices. so what does this verse mean then? Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. This is referring to souls who have departed from the true faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. This passage is referring to Mystery Babylon, the mother of all harlots, the Roman Catholic Church. They are hypocrites (speaking lies in hypocrisy), for honouring Christ with their lips, yet their hearts are far from Him. Matthew 15:7-9 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. The traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church are doctrines of devils (seducing spirits, doctrine of devils). They openly reject the commandments of God, in exchange for their own commandments, and yet claim to be obedient. They praise God with the tongue, yet the heart is far from Him (speaking lies in hypocrisy). They mix pagan theology (doctrines of devils) with the theology of the Bible. They actually forbid their priests to marry (forbidding to marry), and yes, they forbid people from eating meat at certain times during their pagan holiday of Lent (commanding to abstain from meats ...). Their conscience is truly seared, as with a hot iron. Nevertheless. Revelation 18:4-5 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Not every Catholic is like this, and they will come out of the church when they realize the truth. I hope this helps! Last Edited by DGenesis1:29 on 06/19/2017 12:10 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74696194 Russia 06/19/2017 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do wonder how many people who make threads like this or defend so viciously the practice of animal slaughter have ever taken the life of an animal with their own hands. Or even by blade, bullet or denying it the oxygen it needs to live. Pierced the abdominal cavity and removed the intestines with their hands. Feeling the warmth and stench cover your senses. Tear the flesh and fascia from its place to expose the muscles they so lust after. Sloppily grind through the bones to remove the head and its limbs. Piece by piece. Bit by bit. 99.999% of meat eaters have no clue what it is like to take the life of an animal with your own hands. The guilt free 'lead' takes the place of honor and courage. Your pride is misplaced. Killing does not make one brave. Or noble. Or "a man". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75104232 Brazil 06/19/2017 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do wonder how many people who make threads like this or defend so viciously the practice of animal slaughter have ever taken the life of an animal with their own hands. Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh Or even by blade, bullet or denying it the oxygen it needs to live. Pierced the abdominal cavity and removed the intestines with their hands. Feeling the warmth and stench cover your senses. Tear the flesh and fascia from its place to expose the muscles they so lust after. Sloppily grind through the bones to remove the head and its limbs. Piece by piece. Bit by bit. 99.999% of meat eaters have no clue what it is like to take the life of an animal with your own hands. The guilt free 'lead' takes the place of honor and courage. Your pride is misplaced. Killing does not make one brave. Or noble. Or "a man". Then buy me some free food. I want some organic vegetables, thanks, I'll be waiting. I will tell Jesus if you don't help me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42066148 South Africa 06/19/2017 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do wonder how many people who make threads like this or defend so viciously the practice of animal slaughter have ever taken the life of an animal with their own hands. Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh Or even by blade, bullet or denying it the oxygen it needs to live. Pierced the abdominal cavity and removed the intestines with their hands. Feeling the warmth and stench cover your senses. Tear the flesh and fascia from its place to expose the muscles they so lust after. Sloppily grind through the bones to remove the head and its limbs. Piece by piece. Bit by bit. 99.999% of meat eaters have no clue what it is like to take the life of an animal with your own hands. The guilt free 'lead' takes the place of honor and courage. Your pride is misplaced. Killing does not make one brave. Or noble. Or "a man". Then buy me some free food. I want some organic vegetables, thanks, I'll be waiting. I will tell Jesus if you don't help me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75107291 United States 06/19/2017 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 this. lots of examples of this and use in occult practices... in our fallen world seems likely we need meat for optimum health... |
DGenesis1:29 User ID: 74863873 United States 06/19/2017 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 this. lots of examples of this and use in occult practices... in our fallen world seems likely we need meat for optimum health... What exactly do the animals eat? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75104232 Brazil 06/19/2017 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | brazil Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73046455 You hate christians. Why are (((you))) pretending to be catholic? Whats the angle here? Why would a (((person such as yourself))) be pro catholic? The difference between you and me is that I'm not scared to ask questions and engage in debates. You have no truth in you. You're scared to lose your faith, that is all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75104232 Brazil 06/19/2017 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Veganism is a doctrine of demons. After giving up meat for 4 years, it weakened me spiritually, physically and mentally. I am a little way back, but still have the scars. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63828314 this. lots of examples of this and use in occult practices... in our fallen world seems likely we need meat for optimum health... What exactly do the animals eat? So your belief is based on animals do? There are gay animals, cannibals, they eat their poo, drink pee pee. |