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90% of college/university courses are EXACTLY the same as the other colleges/universities.

 
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Colleges should be reserved for the brightest of students. It should be that parents and teachers can decipher which kids are worth it by 9th grade. After 9th grade, if a kid is not only smart and willing to learn but also has their own ideas about things then they should be groomed to become college students. The rest of us should begin training for jobs by 10th grade and graduate high school as a graduate of certain tradeworthy skills. But instead, high school is wasted on trying to turn idiots into college students. High school needs to become a place where you either become a brilliant person ready to change the world or you prepare for jobs and careers.
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"Worth it." Are you fucking kidding me? What we should do is return to the vo-tech and apprentice programs and return universities to a base undergraduate curriculum similar to Harvard and Oxford in the 19th Century. Math, Science, Latin, Rhetoric, and Grammar. Reduce the numbers going to college by 90%!
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So STOP issuing "on demand" student loans for dimwits.
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That is where the main problem began. Once the feds started issuing student loans for ANYONE, no matter what their mental qualifications, it became a money making scam for "schools" and universities. Combine that with affirmative action and you end up with thousands of unqualified students getting massive amounts of government loans to pay schools for degrees that will not help them in the end. These things have made a Bachelors degree pointless and meaningless.
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Exactly.
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College is a complete scam just like everything that the government gets involved in. "Professors" started demanding obscene salaries and benefits for a basically EASY job. They teach the same classes over and over for nine months and expect lifetime jobs and pensions. Absurd.

Now we have affirmative action "professors" who can barely speak coherent english and have obvious IQs of 80 making six figure salaries and tenure. Ridiculous.
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That's why quizlet is the shit.
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bump
because of the sanity in your proposal.
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Quite an easy fix for someone who really wants to solve these issues and not just talk about them. Trump needs to get off of his ass and DO something.
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What is the issue exactly?
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bump
because of the sanity in your proposal.
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Quite an easy fix for someone who really wants to solve these issues and not just talk about them. Trump needs to get off of his ass and DO something.
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What is the issue exactly?
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You must be a brilliant "Professor."
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So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
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I've done both online and in class. I prefer being in the class. Do not get me wrong. Being able to watch a pre-recorded lecture nude is fun for the first time. And being able to break for a smoke is cool. And not having to attend class is nice. But, there is nothing like actually being in the classroom.

The syllbi might be the same, but not all professors are created equal. I do better in class than I do online for math and science courses. In the other courses like history, speech, humanities, sociology, government, english I do better online.
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I bet you could attend lectures nude and smoke at some universities.
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They all suck...when you get older, even Harvard, Yale and Stanford courses look like fluff nonsense.
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Colleges should be reserved for the brightest of students. It should be that parents and teachers can decipher which kids are worth it by 9th grade. After 9th grade, if a kid is not only smart and willing to learn but also has their own ideas about things then they should be groomed to become college students. The rest of us should begin training for jobs by 10th grade and graduate high school as a graduate of certain tradeworthy skills. But instead, high school is wasted on trying to turn idiots into college students. High school needs to become a place where you either become a brilliant person ready to change the world or you prepare for jobs and careers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75093036


"Worth it." Are you fucking kidding me? What we should do is return to the vo-tech and apprentice programs and return universities to a base undergraduate curriculum similar to Harvard and Oxford in the 19th Century. Math, Science, Latin, Rhetoric, and Grammar. Reduce the numbers going to college by 90%!
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So STOP issuing "on demand" student loans for dimwits.
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The loans subsidize the banksters, just like the ebt card program. See what this is about?
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They all suck...when you get older, even Harvard, Yale and Stanford courses look like fluff nonsense.
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Exactly and those "Professors" make six figures for teaching that bullshit over and over. Then the students and parents wonder why they have to go into debt to pay those idiots. Ridiculous system that was outdated two decades ago.
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All courses should be online from grammar school to university. Taxes would go down. The amount of teachers needed would be reduced along with their salaries.
The only things colleges teach is the bad things parents have been trying to keep their kids away from.
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All courses should be online from grammar school to university. Taxes would go down. The amount of teachers needed would be reduced along with their salaries.
The only things colleges teach is the bad things parents have been trying to keep their kids away from.
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The scam is the Bachelors degree. Those are basically pointless courses that can very easily be consolidated and offered online for very low cost. Advanced degrees like doctors need actual hands on work but that would be after they get the online Bachelors degree.
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All courses should be online from grammar school to university. Taxes would go down. The amount of teachers needed would be reduced along with their salaries.
The only things colleges teach is the bad things parents have been trying to keep their kids away from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74824055


The scam is the Bachelors degree. Those are basically pointless courses that can very easily be consolidated and offered online for very low cost. Advanced degrees like doctors need actual hands on work but that would be after they get the online Bachelors degree.
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"Doctors" are BUTCHERS compared to HIGHLY ADVANCED EXTRATERRESTRIAL SOCIETIES THAT HAVE BEEN VISITING US PEACEFULLY IN THEIR LIGHTSHIPS FOR OVER 8 DECADES ALREADY!!!

We need DISCLOSURE!!!


Everything will change after that!
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Richard Dolan, UFO speech, Best speech ever, Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, Rich Dolan, IMU,

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So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


I've done both online and in class. I prefer being in the class. Do not get me wrong. Being able to watch a pre-recorded lecture nude is fun for the first time. And being able to break for a smoke is cool. And not having to attend class is nice. But, there is nothing like actually being in the classroom.

The syllbi might be the same, but not all professors are created equal. I do better in class than I do online for math and science courses. In the other courses like history, speech, humanities, sociology, government, english I do better online.
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A few "preferences" is not worth the extreme cost difference. Online colleges are expensive now but if the whole system was overhauled, a Bachelors Degree would be dirt cheap for anyone who wanted it.
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This
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Re: 90% of college/university courses are EXACTLY the same as the other colleges/universities.
So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


I've done both online and in class. I prefer being in the class. Do not get me wrong. Being able to watch a pre-recorded lecture nude is fun for the first time. And being able to break for a smoke is cool. And not having to attend class is nice. But, there is nothing like actually being in the classroom.

The syllbi might be the same, but not all professors are created equal. I do better in class than I do online for math and science courses. In the other courses like history, speech, humanities, sociology, government, english I do better online.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57618836


A few "preferences" is not worth the extreme cost difference. Online colleges are expensive now but if the whole system was overhauled, a Bachelors Degree would be dirt cheap for anyone who wanted it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


Exactly.
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So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
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All of these scams are interconnected and protected by the lying, con men, lawyers, called Senators.

Useless college degree student loan scams, charity scams, tax exempt religion scams, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. All of these OBVIOUS schemes and scams are protected by some group who pays off one or more of the corrupt lawyer politicians. Lawyers are trained to be witty liars so why would anyone be surprised that they become politicians and perpetuate endless scams?
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Learn by DOING

Passive reading is one small, less effective tiny part of education. Most people do not 'know' as much as they think they do. It doesn't matter how much we think we know- it's what we can do & who we are that counts

There is too much emphasis on cold hard intellect that needs to be balanced with the warm wisdom of the heart.
the old ways of apprenticeships and being guided by a master should be brought back, to actively teach what one desires to know.

May the Mystery schools rise again
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Re: 90% of college/university courses are EXACTLY the same as the other colleges/universities.
So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


All of these scams are interconnected and protected by the lying, con men, lawyers, called Senators.

Useless college degree student loan scams, charity scams, tax exempt religion scams, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. All of these OBVIOUS schemes and scams are protected by some group who pays off one or more of the corrupt lawyer politicians. Lawyers are trained to be witty liars so why would anyone be surprised that they become politicians and perpetuate endless scams?
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EXACTLY.
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university used to be coveted

tomato
now its a bragging right.
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They do not want to solve this. The entire industry is about $$$ and WASTE and tenure. It's all about propping up their false paradigm.
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100% Truth.

Don't even need the rest of the thread.
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university used to be coveted

tomato
now its a bragging right.
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All the "affirmative action" and allowing anyone who can get a student loan into college has destroyed the value of a degree. If anyone can get it, it is meaningless.
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bump
because of the sanity in your proposal.
 Quoting: grumpier


Quite an easy fix for someone who really wants to solve these issues and not just talk about them. Trump needs to get off of his ass and DO something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


About what exactly?

If anything what Trump should do is to make higher education private again, get the government out of that business totally because anytime government bureaucracy is involved it's more expensive.

Let the free market determine the needs and costs and if you want higher education supported by government do it locally.
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bump
because of the sanity in your proposal.
 Quoting: grumpier


Quite an easy fix for someone who really wants to solve these issues and not just talk about them. Trump needs to get off of his ass and DO something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75056101


About what exactly?

If anything what Trump should do is to make higher education private again, get the government out of that business totally because anytime government bureaucracy is involved it's more expensive.

Let the free market determine the needs and costs and if you want higher education supported by government do it locally.
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What could Trump do about it?

Make FEDERAL student loans dependent on GPA and not give them to anyone who asks. End ALL affirmative action which admits idiots who shouldnt be in college getting fake degrees because everyone is afraid to fail them. End all FEDERAL money to colleges who simply use it to give themselves tenure, pay raises and perks. etc, etc,etc
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So have 90% of college/university courses and time spent with ONE professor teaching those courses ONLINE for the entire country. There is simply NO need to have thousands of campuses, dorms, outrageous tuition costs, etc, when the internet and computerized scoring solves all of those needs. Once a course is recorded, any student can view it as many times as necessary to understand and pass.

After someone gets their online Bachelors Degree from the exact same course that everyone else uses, they can choose to actually go to a physical school for another couple years of lab work and hands on specialties.

This idea eliminates 90% of college costs and the need for 90% of physical colleges and professors.
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Excellent.
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How are the old pervert professors going to pretend to be important in front of co eds if they are made obsolete? Thread: Are pervert college professors the next group to crash and burn?





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