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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75128751 Argentina 06/23/2017 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | m = hf/c2 ,and this equation tells the mass of a photon. That's what I posted, as said by others. But I don't like explanations based on facts proven in 1919, prior to Quantum Mechanics. Equations are old and have been replaced by a far more complex mathematical body of work in the last 90 years. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75128751 Argentina 06/23/2017 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All particles, including photons, move along geodesics in general relativity and the path they follow is independent of their mass. Quoting: Smith & Wesson This explain mainly the gravitational lenses of heavy celestial bodies. I'm talking about the mass of a photon, no more and no less. If you watch the video, you'll see that this young scientist talks about momentum and that light from a lantern pushes matter (very weak forces, of course). It has been measured in modern labs, but explanations are very complex for me to simplify them over here. One way on the quest for the capture of a single photon involves laser pulses extremely short (Femtoseconds, 10E-15 s) but still contains a lot of photons. Other experiments try an indirect way to proof the existance of a single photon and is creating two photons from just one. There are many other experiments on their way, involving X rays. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73775109 Argentina 06/23/2017 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | m = hf/c2 ,and this equation tells the mass of a photon. That's what I posted, as said by others. But I don't like explanations based on facts proven in 1919, prior to Quantum Mechanics. Equations are old and have been replaced by a far more complex mathematical body of work in the last 90 years. Photons have no mass, only energy. The equation you posted is improper usage. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75128751 Argentina 06/23/2017 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | m = hf/c2 ,and this equation tells the mass of a photon. That's what I posted, as said by others. But I don't like explanations based on facts proven in 1919, prior to Quantum Mechanics. Equations are old and have been replaced by a far more complex mathematical body of work in the last 90 years. Photons have no mass, only energy. The equation you posted is improper usage. This is not my equation, compañero. Mira el video, de donde es deducida! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75132503 United States 06/23/2017 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the understanding of photons before Quantum Mechanics started to develop in the early 1920's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75128751 Involving QM in a simple explanation turns the things ugly, because you and I have to deal with probabilities, uncertainties, statistics and the complex mathematical works of De Broglie, Heisenberg... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66197448 Philippines 06/23/2017 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | stars warp space the light is not deflected the path it travels is warped it is not the light that is being effected but the space and in the case of a black hole space is so distorted that light upon entering it can never find a way out - at least not from any direction through which light can enter - there may be an egress on the other "side", but that is theoretical |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69689829 United States 06/24/2017 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A magnetic field has no mass yet it can either be attracted or repelled/deflected by another magnetic field! Quoting: Ozicell You are not allowed to say the F-word here! These people believe in particles. Particles exsist....the electron is a particle from an atom. No, the electron particle is a model, and it is a very inaccurate model. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49793362 Portugal 06/24/2017 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stars cannot be seen in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46972728 Everything else can...all is lit but the stars cannot be seen. It is the opposite of what we see within the atmosphere. Eric Dollard Of course they can! Ask an astronaut. The Apollo 13 guys were even forced to use stars to visually orient their damaged spacecraft while returning to Earth! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49793362 Portugal 06/24/2017 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A magnetic field has no mass yet it can either be attracted or repelled/deflected by another magnetic field! Quoting: Ozicell You are not allowed to say the F-word here! These people believe in particles. Particles exsist....the electron is a particle from an atom. No, the electron particle is a model, and it is a very inaccurate model. Particles can advantageously be conceived as something that could coarsely be described as standing waves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49793362 Portugal 06/24/2017 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stars cannot be seen in space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46972728 Everything else can...all is lit but the stars cannot be seen. It is the opposite of what we see within the atmosphere. Eric Dollard Of course they can! Ask an astronaut. The Apollo 13 guys were even forced to use stars to visually orient their damaged spacecraft while returning to Earth! Why do you think we went to all that trouble and expense of putting the Hubble telescope in orbit? Because outside our ever perturbed atmosphere stars can be seen much clearer! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49793362 Portugal 06/24/2017 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just about *everything* you've posting here is fringe and crack pot "science". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75132955 Take some Graduate level courses in QM, QFT, and GR from a good university, as I did, and then get back to us. This is GLP, not some peer-reviewed publication. Let people speculate. Even wildly. Furthermore, it's the fringes that end up causing the advance of science. Let people be. |
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Nick Tesla User ID: 69689829 United States 06/24/2017 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just about *everything* you've posting here is fringe and crack pot "science". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75132955 Take some Graduate level courses in QM, QFT, and GR from a good university, as I did, and then get back to us. Oh, and I was a PhD student in theoretical physics. Did you demand a refund? |
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