BREAKING: Only fucking idiots still believe in creationism!!! | |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 32894224 United States 06/27/2017 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72941093 United States 06/27/2017 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32894224 United States 06/27/2017 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Typical arguments that ignore other factors that undercut the entire theory you are clinging to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56504412 1. Continue to fail to explain sudden EXPLOSION of life during Cambrian period. 2. If we're going back in time, how did the universe appear out of nothing? 3. After the big bang, does your evolutionary timeline allow for the sudden inflation and expansion that happened after the big bang? How long did this inflation last? How does this inflation effect carbon dating? 4. How is flesh from extinct animals (from millions of years ago) still found intact? It should have decomposed by now. 5. Adaption isn't the problem. Animals adapt through avoidance instinct already programmed into their DNA. 6. Speaking of DNA, what about irreducible complexity? 7. Finally, the fossil record shows when animals appear they stay the same throughout the rest of the fossil record. How is this possible if they continue to adapt and change over time? 1. The Cambrian explosion is pretty well understood, actually. It was a result of a rare confluence events in terms of the evolution being at a bit of a tipping point and naturally ready to up the game in terms of complexity, a much more hospitable and varied climate which opened up new niches for life to occupy and succeed in, and perhaps most importantly...that predation had not yet matured as one a mainstay viable niche. Hence, the explosion life didn't necessarily have the same level of checks and balances in place thereafter to keep it in check, so to speak. Admittedly, we also do need to note that the Cambrian could have very realistically had some longer timeframes attached to it, as the abundance of soft bodied fauna don't fissile as well as plants or bony animals do. Therefore, there may be a more limited set of data available than during other geologic epochs. [link to www.nature.com] 2. Science claims the absolute contradictory idea. According to the current understanding of physics, neither matter nor energy can be "created" nor "destiye". Rather they simply convert into one another according to calculatable laws and change states. You may have heard of the equation, actually. It's E=MC^2. 3. Yes. The inflation of the universe would have no bearing on life on earth, as is observable today as the universe is still known to be expanding. Likewise, I don't see how an expanding universe would effect the constant rate of carbon decay any more than it would affect other constants such as the speed of light. However, it's silly to concern ourselves about it too much as science also calculates the event to have occurred around 10 billion years early than the formation of the earth into a planetary body...much less any carbon based life forms. The "earth" was still a nebulous cloud at best. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] 4. As a general rule of thumb it is. However, if you "believe" in Egypt, you can also see plainly that flesh can be preserved by unique conditions. We call the process "mummification" and it's really not very puzzling or mysterious, albeit remarkable. 5. You're referencing behavioral adaptation. We're talking about physical. Please stay with the rest of the class. 6. What about irreducible complexity? Mainstream science has long ago largely rejected the idea given that it runs contrary to the data and evidence available. To date, there's no evidence to suggest that one life form is at all limited in its adaptation or evolutionary capacities if the forces at work to necessitate such are gardual enough. If the change is too rapid, the species goes extinct before it can mutate accordingly. This is really well-understood stuff. 7. Mutations only becoming increasingly common if they provide a survival advantage and make it more likely for those traits to be passed on. If the niche doesn't change, and the mutation not advantageous, it becomes a random event and not a step towards a new species. We see this in sharks, which have changed a bit since there appearance but are still largely similar in many ways to their ancestors. Just as one would expect to be the case. Again. Not much mystery in all of this. |
Robert50 User ID: 9334072 United States 06/27/2017 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A small fraction of the overwhelming scientific data which indisputably validates the mechanics of natural selection and evolution. Quoting: You_people_are_all_nuts 1. Recreating the first sparks of life is easily done in repeatable lab controlled experiments by recreating the conditions of the primordial soup. There's no mystery. You don't need magic. Just the right mix of temperature, chemical compounds and a little electricity as one would have in the natural world, via lightning strikes. [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] 2. There are literally thousands and thousands of transitional species found to date in the fossil record that allow us to see how evolution took place over time. The dating is substantiated by both the geologic record and carbon dating. [link to ncse.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] 3. The genetic record shows clear evidence of primordial ancestors in both humans and animals alike. We can even re-activitate the dinosaur DNA remanents of chickens to produce those with dinosaur like snouts or legs in repeatable experiments without ascribing to superstitious beliefs. [link to www.bbc.com] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] [link to www.sci-news.com] 4. We can readily observe evolutionary adaptation taking place right before our eyes. In France the catfish of a particular river have uniquely adapted to a constraint on the food supply by hunting pigeons on land as one of their preferred food sources for the species. See? Fish really do crawl out of the water and onto dry land. You can see it with your own eyes. [link to youtu.be (secure)] So...you have DNA evidence, carbon dating, physical remains, repeatable results of experimentation, and video evidence from an eye witness. Many of you are willing to execute people with far lower standards of proof and evidence. How can anyone possibly maintain that the more logical and rational explanation involves the folklore of desert nomads from thousands of years ago and their story of a magically created rib-woman, a talking snake, and a malevolent diety who will forever punish an entire species because one dumb bitch ate the wrong snack one day? Please tell me you see how insane that is. Great copy and paste but no real thoughts of your own other than that attention whoring ID you have..........Hahahahahaha |
countryleftypenn User ID: 74870968 United States 06/27/2017 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see what the 1611 King James Bible says about evilution: 1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Jesus Christ is the only way to Salvation. 1 Corinthians 1611 AV KJ Bible Chapter 15 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70833401 United States 06/27/2017 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only a fucking idiot would think his opinion is fact. Congratulations. Fucking idiot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75147340 Now when you want an adult conversation please come back. Carbon dating, DNA evidence, and the geologic record are about as free from opinion as you can get. Knucklehead, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mutations are almost never beneficial. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15985208 Do you believe in a continuous chain of beneficial mutations improving every species? "Mutants" are fucked up. But your faith says mutants are the very process of evolution. Dude... that is incredibly stupid. You have to be thoroughly indoctrinated to believe and repeat what you yourself would otherwise readily admit as serious stupidity. The preachers of evolution deny common-sense to declare that accidental explosions of randomness eventually accidentally come to life and then mutate into Mozart, Shakespeare and Steve Jobs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75152668 United States 06/27/2017 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Creator of the universe and everything in it, by Whom your heart continues to beat, and by Whom you can breathe in the air He created into your body that He created, says you are The Fool. You will have your chance to tell Him otherwise. You have an Appointment with Him. When is it? |
Krissy User ID: 70785644 United States 06/27/2017 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The joke is on you. There is a God, and one day soon, every eye will see Him, coming in the clouds...every tounge will confess that He is Lord. Every knee will bow...including yours. He's the King of Kings and Father of truth and all that's wholesome and good. Boy won't you be surprised. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you...just because He hasn't yet doesn't mean He doesn't exist.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71413179 United States 06/27/2017 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A small fraction of the overwhelming scientific data which indisputably validates the mechanics of natural selection and evolution. Quoting: You_people_are_all_nuts 1. Recreating the first sparks of life is easily done in repeatable lab controlled experiments by recreating the conditions of the primordial soup. There's no mystery. You don't need magic. Just the right mix of temperature, chemical compounds and a little electricity as one would have in the natural world, via lightning strikes. [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] 2. There are literally thousands and thousands of transitional species found to date in the fossil record that allow us to see how evolution took place over time. The dating is substantiated by both the geologic record and carbon dating. [link to ncse.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] 3. The genetic record shows clear evidence of primordial ancestors in both humans and animals alike. We can even re-activitate the dinosaur DNA remanents of chickens to produce those with dinosaur like snouts or legs in repeatable experiments without ascribing to superstitious beliefs. [link to www.bbc.com] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] [link to www.sci-news.com] 4. We can readily observe evolutionary adaptation taking place right before our eyes. In France the catfish of a particular river have uniquely adapted to a constraint on the food supply by hunting pigeons on land as one of their preferred food sources for the species. See? Fish really do crawl out of the water and onto dry land. You can see it with your own eyes. [link to youtu.be (secure)] So...you have DNA evidence, carbon dating, physical remains, repeatable results of experimentation, and video evidence from an eye witness. Many of you are willing to execute people with far lower standards of proof and evidence. How can anyone possibly maintain that the more logical and rational explanation involves the folklore of desert nomads from thousands of years ago and their story of a magically created rib-woman, a talking snake, and a malevolent diety who will forever punish an entire species because one dumb bitch ate the wrong snack one day? Please tell me you see how insane that is. THANK YOU! Superpin this forever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73083015 United States 06/27/2017 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A small fraction of the overwhelming scientific data which indisputably validates the mechanics of natural selection and evolution. Quoting: You_people_are_all_nuts 1. Recreating the first sparks of life is easily done in repeatable lab controlled experiments by recreating the conditions of the primordial soup. There's no mystery. You don't need magic. Just the right mix of temperature, chemical compounds and a little electricity as one would have in the natural world, via lightning strikes. [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] 2. There are literally thousands and thousands of transitional species found to date in the fossil record that allow us to see how evolution took place over time. The dating is substantiated by both the geologic record and carbon dating. [link to ncse.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] 3. The genetic record shows clear evidence of primordial ancestors in both humans and animals alike. We can even re-activitate the dinosaur DNA remanents of chickens to produce those with dinosaur like snouts or legs in repeatable experiments without ascribing to superstitious beliefs. [link to www.bbc.com] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] [link to www.sci-news.com] 4. We can readily observe evolutionary adaptation taking place right before our eyes. In France the catfish of a particular river have uniquely adapted to a constraint on the food supply by hunting pigeons on land as one of their preferred food sources for the species. See? Fish really do crawl out of the water and onto dry land. You can see it with your own eyes. [link to youtu.be (secure)] So...you have DNA evidence, carbon dating, physical remains, repeatable results of experimentation, and video evidence from an eye witness. Many of you are willing to execute people with far lower standards of proof and evidence. How can anyone possibly maintain that the more logical and rational explanation involves the folklore of desert nomads from thousands of years ago and their story of a magically created rib-woman, a talking snake, and a malevolent diety who will forever punish an entire species because one dumb bitch ate the wrong snack one day? Please tell me you see how insane that is. Is that not the nature of belief? I believe this was all created but I would never call anyone who didn't agree with that an idiot, it's as if everyone is a child now calling names when confronted with something that goes against their own belief. See, you chose to believe the science as presented, I choose to believe that which I know inside myself. I need no proof whatsoever for what I believe and I am comfortable with that because there is no other way, there is no way to prove it, I just believe it, that cannot be changed by science. They can test and prove all they want, doesn't matter to me, I still and always will believe this and we were created. Made by a hand. This is no accident of chemicals and electricity, it is intentional. It is far to beautiful, far to perfect, far t o self-evident that we are a creation, to deny such is to invite madness into yourself, and a searing of the conscience so one may no longer see the truth. So yes, forever I will be an idiot in your mind, and plenty of others, but I am comfortable with that. There is no way for creationism and evolution to find middle ground. In truth there is no middle ground, there is no grey in truth, therefore only one can be true. But why does that cause people to be vulgar in their belief? I wonder if there isn't something deep inside you goading you? Perhaps deep down you truly know creationism to be truth but you cannot let go of the science, of the liars who have guided your mind for so long, so it makes you angry. Sensible answer. Many atheists are angry because they have lost all hope and sense of direction. I myself, was never a religious person to begin with. Since as young as I can remember, and I had this discussion with my father recently, I was about 8 years old and already began to ask deep philosophical questions about the meaning of life, existence and the universe. My father was always a man of science and money. His life's goal was to better our lives. My mother was a bit more religious and she wanted us to have "faith" in Jesus. I pretended I did to make her happy but I later admitted that I thought her "faith" was bullshit. She's no longer religious. I'm content. Whether there exists a God and an afterlife is of no consequence to me. If I am wrong, and God is a loving God, I hope he will forgive me. If I'm right, I'll be dead and won't know I was right. He is indeed a loving God. He gave his Son so you would not have to account for your sin. He gave his Word so you could understand. But you have chosen not to. In that, you have rejected Him. Separation from God is Hell. Left to your own devices, you will beg for death. What you don't realize is that there is something far FAR worse than death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75145576 United States 06/27/2017 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Million missing links bro. Quoting: Master of Nothing Why is it out of the question that creationism and evolution can't find a middle ground? That is where many truths may be found, if these people would stop arguing and start working together. The ‘missing link’ in evolution is a myth that comes from medieval theology. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5652049 United States 06/27/2017 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71413179 United States 06/27/2017 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65463704 United States 06/27/2017 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65463704 United States 06/27/2017 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26314866 United States 06/27/2017 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74975180 Canada 06/27/2017 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71413179 United States 06/27/2017 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A small fraction of the overwhelming scientific data which indisputably validates the mechanics of natural selection and evolution. Quoting: You_people_are_all_nuts 1. Recreating the first sparks of life is easily done in repeatable lab controlled experiments by recreating the conditions of the primordial soup. There's no mystery. You don't need magic. Just the right mix of temperature, chemical compounds and a little electricity as one would have in the natural world, via lightning strikes. [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] 2. There are literally thousands and thousands of transitional species found to date in the fossil record that allow us to see how evolution took place over time. The dating is substantiated by both the geologic record and carbon dating. [link to ncse.com (secure)] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] 3. The genetic record shows clear evidence of primordial ancestors in both humans and animals alike. We can even re-activitate the dinosaur DNA remanents of chickens to produce those with dinosaur like snouts or legs in repeatable experiments without ascribing to superstitious beliefs. [link to www.bbc.com] [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] [link to www.sci-news.com] 4. We can readily observe evolutionary adaptation taking place right before our eyes. In France the catfish of a particular river have uniquely adapted to a constraint on the food supply by hunting pigeons on land as one of their preferred food sources for the species. See? Fish really do crawl out of the water and onto dry land. You can see it with your own eyes. [link to youtu.be (secure)] So...you have DNA evidence, carbon dating, physical remains, repeatable results of experimentation, and video evidence from an eye witness. Many of you are willing to execute people with far lower standards of proof and evidence. How can anyone possibly maintain that the more logical and rational explanation involves the folklore of desert nomads from thousands of years ago and their story of a magically created rib-woman, a talking snake, and a malevolent diety who will forever punish an entire species because one dumb bitch ate the wrong snack one day? Please tell me you see how insane that is. Great copy and paste but no real thoughts of your own other than that attention whoring ID you have..........Hahahahahaha No copyband paste, besides the links. But you are correct that I'm not Charles Darwin himself, and thus cannot take credit for the Evolutionary Model being my own. Astute observation. My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see what the 1611 King James Bible says about evilution: Quoting: countryleftypenn 1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Who gives a fuck? You realize a 400 year old religious recount nomadic folklore that contradicts itself every 3 pages or so doesn't supersede DNA results as evidence, right? My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knucklehead, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75152668 Give your best explanation of how male and female could have possibly evolved. Can you even think about it? Don't worry, I know you cannot and will not answer... That's a broad topic, as you haven't narrowed down whether your talking specifically about the animal kingdom or plants as well. However you can start here with the first discovered sexual reproduction being about 1.2 billion years ago. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Knucklehead, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75152668 Give your best explanation of how a butterfly/caterpillar could have possibly evolved. Can you even think about it? Don't worry, I know you cannot and will not answer... Christ this is easy. Butterfly's themselves are about 28 million years old. It's first presumed ancestor is this transitional fossil from Paleozoic which was discovered in Illinois as being one of the earliest larval insects. [link to www.nrcresearchpress.com] Great part about science is that unlike dogma, rhetoric, and superstition, it requires you to refine your conclusions based on data and evidence, so if we find an older one, I'll be first to modify my thinking. My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
You_people_are_all_nuts (OP) User ID: 36141238 United States 06/27/2017 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |