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Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
6/27/17 | by Chris Eger

The nation’s high court on Monday let stand a ruling against the government in the combined cases of two men blocked from gun possession after run-ins that resulted in convictions for non-serious crimes.

This week, the court declined to take up an appeal sought by the Obama-era Justice Department in the cases of Binderup v. the U.S. Attorney General and Suarez v. the U.S. Attorney General. Four Justices were needed to grant the petition but only two, Justices Ginsburg and Sotomayor, felt the court should hear the case.

Last September, a 15-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Pennsylvania disagreed 8-7, siding with Binerup and Suarez in a lengthy 174-page decision. In the end, that panel cited the relatively minor sentences passed on the two men as the reason to disregard their crimes as being serious enough to void their gun rights.


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What were the charges?
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Electing President Donald J. Trump Is The Revolution!!! Hell Yeah!!!
America must have 3 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Test politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
Crooked Hillary - Lock Her Up... Lock Her Up !!!
Obama- A Lawless marxist-islamic.
Democrats are a loose knit group of ideologues who only share the common goal of destroying our Constitutional Republic. They should be agitated against each other until they splinter and eat each other.
All the marxists-islamics, Drug Addicts, Pedos, and Homos love Hillary and hate President Trump.
All Pedos And Their Supporters Must Face Justice And Be Publicly Hanged.
Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
THAT'S Great!

Now how about those who have gone 20 years no more trouble

an their crime didn't involve guns

I think we should think about it.
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do all felons lose their constitutional rights?
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I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
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Felons should be allowed to carry!
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Felons should be allowed to carry!
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Felons should be allowed to carry!
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and they should get first dibs at jobs in banks and casinos!

if you smoke a ton of meth, and think about it real hard, it will eventually make sense.
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I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
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I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
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What were the charges?
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Corruption of a minor his girlfriend at the time and carrying a firearm without a license.
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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157193


I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


pays their debt?

How? By costing taxpayers $50K per year per inmate?

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What were the charges?
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This subject is near and dear to my heart.

When I was 18, a friend and I stole a box of motorcycle parts out of the back of a parked pickup truck and got caught.
Stupid kid shit.
I got convicted of a minor felony, served no time. Did my probation. It has now been over 30 years, and I have not even had a speeding ticket since then.
Yet I cannot own a gun.
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I think this thread is mis-titled. Since both men were facing years in prison before sentence reduction, these couldn't possibly have been misdemeanors. Misdemeanors do not usually disqualify from gun purchases, but felonies often did.
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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
This subject is near and dear to my heart.

When I was 18, a friend and I stole a box of motorcycle parts out of the back of a parked pickup truck and got caught.
Stupid kid shit.
I got convicted of a minor felony, served no time. Did my probation. It has now been over 30 years, and I have not even had a speeding ticket since then.
Yet I cannot own a gun.
 Quoting: Deplorable Jesse McCree


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8 U.S.C. § 1182(f)
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
Felons should be allowed to carry!
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laugh

what about for a mala prohibitum "crime"?

malum prohibitum
(mal-uhm prohibit-uhm) adj. Latin meaning "wrong due to being prohibited," which refers to crimes made so by statute, compared to crimes based on English Common Law and obvious violations of society's standards which are defined as "malum in se." Statutory crimes include criminal violations of regulatory acts, "white collar crimes" such as improper use of insider information, issuance of stocks without a permit which are intentionally not supported by real assets, and tax avoidance. (See: malum in se, white collar crime)

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I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
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I agree. My step daughter got caught up with her dumbass ex husband in running from cops in a car. She was just passenger in car. He had taken her with him to sell drugs. Some guy in back with him had a gun. She got hit with all charges including the gun. She never ran from cops or tested for drugs. 2 felony charges for the rest of her life. Co dependant woman at the time and she is still fighting to get her 2 girls back and pay huge fines and has had a terrible time getting a good job to show she can support them. 1.2 yrs jail time.
It was awful! Oklahoma. Her whole life is ruined.
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What were the charges?
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Corruption of a minor his girlfriend at the time and carrying a firearm without a license.
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Open Carry in Pennsylvania per the states Constitution, unless he was carrying concealed...it doesn't say exactly what his charges were.
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I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157193


I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


pays their debt?

How? By costing taxpayers $50K per year per inmate?

cruise
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Maybe in prison, but there are a whole hell of a lot more "criminals" who go on probation or spend time in local jail where they literal do pay for the priviledge of being fucked by the system.

Local justice is a moneymaking scam that preys upon the weak and the poor who have little or no means to fight for their freedom once the system ensnares them.

Between angry prosecuters trying to pad their stats and overwhelmed public defenders trying to make any kind of a quick plea agreement all too often a minor non-violent crime turns into many many years of lost rights, feedoms, and money, money, money.

Its easy to judge and say don't do the crime, but the restictive, complicated laws of the land would make anyone and everyone a criminal if their behavior were closely examined closely.


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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157193


I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


pays their debt?

How? By costing taxpayers $50K per year per inmate?

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73718680


Maybe in prison, but there are a whole hell of a lot more "criminals" who go on probation or spend time in local jail where they literal do pay for the priviledge of being fucked by the system.

Local justice is a moneymaking scam that preys upon the weak and the poor who have little or no means to fight for their freedom once the system ensnares them.

Between angry prosecuters trying to pad their stats and overwhelmed public defenders trying to make any kind of a quick plea agreement all too often a minor non-violent crime turns into many many years of lost rights, feedoms, and money, money, money.

Its easy to judge and say don't do the crime, but the restictive, complicated laws of the land would make anyone and everyone a criminal if their behavior were closely examined closely.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


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I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157193


I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


pays their debt?

How? By costing taxpayers $50K per year per inmate?

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73718680


Maybe in prison, but there are a whole hell of a lot more "criminals" who go on probation or spend time in local jail where they literal do pay for the priviledge of being fucked by the system.

Local justice is a moneymaking scam that preys upon the weak and the poor who have little or no means to fight for their freedom once the system ensnares them.

Between angry prosecuters trying to pad their stats and overwhelmed public defenders trying to make any kind of a quick plea agreement all too often a minor non-violent crime turns into many many years of lost rights, feedoms, and money, money, money.

Its easy to judge and say don't do the crime, but the restictive, complicated laws of the land would make anyone and everyone a criminal if their behavior were closely examined closely.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


And by "weak and poor" you are talking about only weak and poor whites, right?

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6/27/17 | by Chris Eger

The nation’s high court on Monday let stand a ruling against the government in the combined cases of two men blocked from gun possession after run-ins that resulted in convictions for non-serious crimes.

This week, the court declined to take up an appeal sought by the Obama-era Justice Department in the cases of Binderup v. the U.S. Attorney General and Suarez v. the U.S. Attorney General. Four Justices were needed to grant the petition but only two, Justices Ginsburg and Sotomayor, felt the court should hear the case.

Last September, a 15-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Pennsylvania disagreed 8-7, siding with Binerup and Suarez in a lengthy 174-page decision. In the end, that panel cited the relatively minor sentences passed on the two men as the reason to disregard their crimes as being serious enough to void their gun rights.


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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
I think this thread is mis-titled. Since both men were facing years in prison before sentence reduction, these couldn't possibly have been misdemeanors. Misdemeanors do not usually disqualify from gun purchases, but felonies often did.
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Precisely.
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Re: Supreme Court agrees non-violent misdemeanor crimes may not strip Second Amendment Rights
I think after you serve your sentence you should get your rights back ...all of them! Unless you used a gun to hurt someone. Why should you punished for life?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157193


I've always heard it said that a person "pays their debt to society" through completion of a sentence.

But it doesn't appear so when restrictions of rights continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


pays their debt?

How? By costing taxpayers $50K per year per inmate?

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73718680


Maybe in prison, but there are a whole hell of a lot more "criminals" who go on probation or spend time in local jail where they literal do pay for the priviledge of being fucked by the system.

Local justice is a moneymaking scam that preys upon the weak and the poor who have little or no means to fight for their freedom once the system ensnares them.

Between angry prosecuters trying to pad their stats and overwhelmed public defenders trying to make any kind of a quick plea agreement all too often a minor non-violent crime turns into many many years of lost rights, feedoms, and money, money, money.

Its easy to judge and say don't do the crime, but the restictive, complicated laws of the land would make anyone and everyone a criminal if their behavior were closely examined closely.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32495496


the restictive, complicated laws of the land would make anyone and everyone a criminal if their behavior were closely examined closely.

OR if someone in power just doesn't like you for some reason.

The average "law abiding citizen" is said to commit three felonies a day.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 06/30/2017 02:44 AM


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