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Gun control works. All the western countries that have gun control have lower murder rates

 
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see. Guns should be banned from the US.


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Even if gun control would save every potential life that would fall victim to murder by firearm (*which it won't, especially in this country, gangbangers will always have guns), there's this one thing you fucking liberals don't understand. SHALL NOT INFRINGE. You liberals whine about how abortion (the killing of your own BABIES) is "constitutional", when it's not even in the constitution, but was yet declared constitutional by the SCOTUS. The 2A IS in the Constitution and DOES EXPLICITLY mention the rights of citizens to own firearms and other arms. SCOTUS ruled that any firearm commonly used by the military is legal to everyday citizens to own and use. Even machine guns and select fire rifles/subs/pistols. Yet you guys dismiss this whole shit, saying the forefathers "couldn't imagine technology with firearms getting to the point it is today"; yet in 1718, was a revolver like repeating cannon. Your excuses that they couldn't imagine AR-15's or something similar in the future is complete and utter bullshit. If you liberals pass legislation to come for our guns, there will be blood flowing in the streets, and the military and most of the cops will not be behind you. It will be beta male hipster faggot weaklings like you that will be recruited to take them away. Good luck taking our guns you cocksucker. I'd blow your head off if you tried and piss on your exposed brains. If the SCOTUS is so incompetent regarding the rulings on the 2A, then I guess they are incompetent on rulings on abortion and any other progressive "cause".
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Murder rates of white America is comparable to that of Australia.

The more brown people you have the more violence.
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Our culture and society loves violence and destruction, and yes even murder.
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Speaking of which, most of the violence and desensitized nature of modern US culture - including trashy rap music - comes by way of the very liberal entertainment industry and all its executives and employees who are big fans of libtardism and shit like Hillary and Obama.

Coincidence?



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The Japanese appetite for extreme gory violence and explicit sex made graphic anime a multi-billion dollar industry

There's no logic in scapegoating American culture
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Watch a documentary on their prisons...you won't be playing checkers with your crew.

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Even if gun control would save every potential life that would fall victim to murder by firearm (*which it won't, especially in this country, gangbangers will always have guns), there's this one thing you fucking liberals don't understand. SHALL NOT INFRINGE. You liberals whine about how abortion (the killing of your own BABIES) is "constitutional", when it's not even in the constitution, but was yet declared constitutional by the SCOTUS. The 2A IS in the Constitution and DOES EXPLICITLY mention the rights of citizens to own firearms and other arms. SCOTUS ruled that any firearm commonly used by the military is legal to everyday citizens to own and use. Even machine guns and select fire rifles/subs/pistols. Yet you guys dismiss this whole shit, saying the forefathers "couldn't imagine technology with firearms getting to the point it is today"; yet in 1718, was a revolver like repeating cannon. Your excuses that they couldn't imagine AR-15's or something similar in the future is complete and utter bullshit. If you liberals pass legislation to come for our guns, there will be blood flowing in the streets, and the military and most of the cops will not be behind you. It will be beta male hipster faggot weaklings like you that will be recruited to take them away. Good luck taking our guns you cocksucker. I'd blow your head off if you tried and piss on your exposed brains. If the SCOTUS is so incompetent regarding the rulings on the 2A, then I guess they are incompetent on rulings on abortion and any other progressive "cause".
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Forgot to mention that the repeating cannon was called the Puckle gun. Look up "puckle gun forgotten weapons" on YouTube.
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Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Mussolini Would approve.
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add Poll Pott to the photo too
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Watch a documentary on their prisons...you won't be playing checkers with your crew.
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That's why I said that mindless liberalism hasn't, so far, shitted up Japan as thoroughly as it has done to the US.

Another example: The Japanese government deals with illegal immigrants the way Americans did in the past, particular during the era of Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s.

The Japanese counterpart to Barack Obama, which was Japan's previous, very leftwing prime minister, was kicked out after one term.

We Americans regrettably didn't do the same thing to Barack Obama.

Libtardism has not made America a nicer, kinder society.




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Canadian christian here. DISAGREE.

You might as well ban knives, bows and arrows, hammers, 2 by 4's, rocks....

GET MY POINT?
 Quoting: Petrus


I'm not against gun ownership, if gun owners feel safer owning a firearm, then fair enough. However, you have more of a chance of fighting back or escaping alive against the weapons you listed above. If a bad guy has a gun, you're not out running a bullet. I know it's said by the NRA, 'The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun s a good guy with a gun' But if you both have a gun, you're in a position of stalemate, and one of you is dying in the altercation.
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see. Guns should be banned from the US.


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but at the expense of freedom means it is not worth it.



cut off peoples dicks and unwanted pregnancies will go down.
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obvious troll is obvious


Your ghey source only lists "firearm-related death rate" not actual murder rates. Quit being such a pole smoker.
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OP thinks he's smart. I swear if i had a dime every time someone said western countries have a lower murder rate... then go on to compare firearm deaths.
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Pedophiles should be banned from the U.S.
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Come to Brazil, idiot! Gun control here and murder rates growing all the time.
Get a life!
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
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Perhaps.

but these days, living in our Communities is
rapidly becoming a War Zone, so now we need
out Guns more than ever.

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The United States is the safest place in the world, as long as you stay away from democrats.

democrats commit 75% or more of the murders every year.

democrats commit 95% or more of the mass killings every year.

The United States has a democrat problem.
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What a fucking lying moron.

Where's your link you slimy liar?
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
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Well, I guess that's down to who gets control of the military. If the military remain loyal to the rogue Gov, then firearms wont really do anything against ship / sub launched tomahawk missiles, high altitude air strikes, etc.
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see. Guns should be banned from the US.


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Come to Brazil, idiot! Gun control here and murder rates growing all the time.
Get a life!
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<gasp> gun control growing and murder rates growing at the same time? how is that possible?

any libtard will tell you that's impossible.


laugh
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207977


Well, I guess that's down to who gets control of the military. If the military remain loyal to the rogue Gov, then firearms wont really do anything against ship / sub launched tomahawk missiles, high altitude air strikes, etc.
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laugh

Another who confuses 4th and 5th generation warfare with conventional war, nation state against nation state.
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Pedophiles should be banned from the U.S.
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this!!! way to connect the dots...could be those most wanting to take guns are afraid of what will happen to them once it comes to light what they've been doing behind closed doors
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207977


Well, I guess that's down to who gets control of the military. If the military remain loyal to the rogue Gov, then firearms wont really do anything against ship / sub launched tomahawk missiles, high altitude air strikes, etc.
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True, but an armed population even with simple guns backing up the part of the military siding with them is certainly better than nothing.
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Canadian christian here. DISAGREE.

You might as well ban knives, bows and arrows, hammers, 2 by 4's, rocks....

GET MY POINT?
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I'm not against gun ownership, if gun owners feel safer owning a firearm, then fair enough. However, you have more of a chance of fighting back or escaping alive against the weapons you listed above. If a bad guy has a gun, you're not out running a bullet. I know it's said by the NRA, 'The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun s a good guy with a gun' But if you both have a gun, you're in a position of stalemate, and one of you is dying in the altercation.
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laugh

It isn't about "feel" safer, it is safer.

while I appreciate your post, you should stay away from things you know nothing about.
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207977


Well, I guess that's down to who gets control of the military. If the military remain loyal to the rogue Gov, then firearms wont really do anything against ship / sub launched tomahawk missiles, high altitude air strikes, etc.
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Oh yeah because that totally worked in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan.
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Honestly just give it up.
It's like wishing to be a virgin again.
that ship has sailed
the cat is out of the bag
etc
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Even IF true(not saying it is), last time I checked, according to the constitution it was the duty of every American to fight enemies abroad and within, should this case occur.

How would you fight a government in case it turns corrupt and treacherous if you were to let any government take away even the most basic defences like guns.

In fact, a case could be made that with technology advancing, Americans need more powerful hardware to be able to defend themselves in case of a government turning treacherous and or corrupt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207977


Well, I guess that's down to who gets control of the military. If the military remain loyal to the rogue Gov, then firearms wont really do anything against ship / sub launched tomahawk missiles, high altitude air strikes, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264991


True, but an armed population even with simple guns backing up the part of the military siding with them is certainly better than nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75207977


No it isn't true. No government can use that kind of weaponry against their own people and remain in power.

It can't even win a counter insurgency in a foreign country using those kind of weapons.

all the drone strikes have done and MOAB and all the rest has done is harden opposition.

No westerner can move anywhere in Baghdad without serious security as an example. Everyone and his brother wants to kill a foreign invader.

An armed population is a serious check on tyranny. If that weren't so, why are they so desperate to disarm the people?

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Canadian christian here. DISAGREE.

You might as well ban knives, bows and arrows, hammers, 2 by 4's, rocks....

GET MY POINT?
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I'm not against gun ownership, if gun owners feel safer owning a firearm, then fair enough. However, you have more of a chance of fighting back or escaping alive against the weapons you listed above. If a bad guy has a gun, you're not out running a bullet. I know it's said by the NRA, 'The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun s a good guy with a gun' But if you both have a gun, you're in a position of stalemate, and one of you is dying in the altercation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264991


laugh

It isn't about "feel" safer, it is safer.

while I appreciate your post, you should stay away from things you know nothing about.
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Well, tell me where I'm wrong. If someone pulls a knife on me (or any other non-firearm), they have to get in range to use it on me, and even then I have a chance of disarming the assailant, dodging weapon, or running for safety.

If assailant has firearm, he can brandish it from afar and instantly kill me. So, I have no chance of disarming him, and I have no real chance of running for safety because I can't outrun a bullet.
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If you subtracted all the dindu gun violence America's gun death rate would be comparable to Europe.


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Fact^^
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Canadian christian here. DISAGREE.

You might as well ban knives, bows and arrows, hammers, 2 by 4's, rocks....

GET MY POINT?
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I'm not against gun ownership, if gun owners feel safer owning a firearm, then fair enough. However, you have more of a chance of fighting back or escaping alive against the weapons you listed above. If a bad guy has a gun, you're not out running a bullet. I know it's said by the NRA, 'The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun s a good guy with a gun' But if you both have a gun, you're in a position of stalemate, and one of you is dying in the altercation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264991


laugh

It isn't about "feel" safer, it is safer.

while I appreciate your post, you should stay away from things you know nothing about.
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Well, tell me where I'm wrong. If someone pulls a knife on me (or any other non-firearm), they have to get in range to use it on me, and even then I have a chance of disarming the assailant, dodging weapon, or running for safety.

If assailant has firearm, he can brandish it from afar and instantly kill me. So, I have no chance of disarming him, and I have no real chance of running for safety because I can't outrun a bullet.
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Sorry, my British cousin, I don't have the inclination or time to try to educate you. Maybe someone else will.

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I'm not against gun ownership, if gun owners feel safer owning a firearm, then fair enough. However, you have more of a chance of fighting back or escaping alive against the weapons you listed above. If a bad guy has a gun, you're not out running a bullet. I know it's said by the NRA, 'The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun s a good guy with a gun' But if you both have a gun, you're in a position of stalemate, and one of you is dying in the altercation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264991


laugh

It isn't about "feel" safer, it is safer.

while I appreciate your post, you should stay away from things you know nothing about.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Well, tell me where I'm wrong. If someone pulls a knife on me (or any other non-firearm), they have to get in range to use it on me, and even then I have a chance of disarming the assailant, dodging weapon, or running for safety.

If assailant has firearm, he can brandish it from afar and instantly kill me. So, I have no chance of disarming him, and I have no real chance of running for safety because I can't outrun a bullet.
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Sorry, my British cousin, I don't have the inclination or time to educate you..
 Quoting: s. d. butler


You had two opportunities to refute what I said, and did not do so because you could not do so.

It's not rocket science: if a good guy and a bad guy have a gun, neither is in an advantageous position because neither can outrun a bullet. You might think you're the big man with your AR-15, until someone has a gun to your head, and at that moment your pants are filled with diarrhea, your life flashes before your eyes, and you think, 'Why didn't they ban guns!'
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Op,

Do some research

Knife-related homicides rise: StatsCan
[link to www.cbc.ca]

UK Gun Ownership Up, Deaths Down Offering Stark Comparison with US Figures
[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]

Knife killings on the rise in Australia as gun murders fall
[link to www.theaustralian.com.au]
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Here's a start re: link requested
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“In 1863 a Democrat shot and killedAbraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who, later died from the wound.

In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded President Ronald Reagan.

In 1984 James Huberty, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonaldsrestaurant.

In 1986 Patrick Sherril, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Lubys cafeteria.

In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001 a left-wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the United States.

In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martinplant.

In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared LeeLoughner shot Rep. GabrielleGiffords and killed 6 others.

In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school. “

The United States is the safest place in the world, as long as you stay away from democrats.

democrats commit 75% or more of the murders every year.

democrats commit 95% or more of the mass killings every year.

The United States has a democrat problem.
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What a fucking lying moron.

Where's your link you slimy liar?
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