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Muslims Tell....."Why I Chose Jesus"

 
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Do Muslims need Christ? What if they never heard the truth?

What a great question!

What about those who have never heard?

Or for that matter, what about children who die at birth?

What about someone who is severely mentally impaired from birth and can't even communicate?

What is their standing before God?

Well, for starters, we know God is a God of perfect love AND of perfect justice.

The scriptures tell us that God only holds us responsible for what we know:

John 15:22 (New International Version)

22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.

God also tells us that it is apparent from what has been made that He exists:

Romans 1:18-22

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

So that tells us a couple things. You don't have to worry about the 2 year old baby who dies. God is perfectly just and we don't have to worry that he is going to be unjust in any way.

In addition, if you are reading this, you are without excuse. The reality of God is completely apparent to you. You need to make a decision about Christ.

If people are truly reaching out for God, then God will find a way to reach them. In some of the least Christian areas of the world, it has almost become commonplace for Christ to appear in dreams and visions to those who are truly seeking him. Here are some stories from some Muslims who have come to Christ in extraordinary ways:

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Muslims Tell ... "Why I chose Jesus"

I had a Dream...

For someone who has not had extended exposure to Muslim-background believers in Christ, probably the most striking surprise is the powerful role that dreams and visions have played in drawing people to Jesus. Though dreams may play an insignificant role in the conversion decisions of most Westerners, over one-fourth of those surveyed state quite emphatically that dreams and visions were key in drawing them to Christ and sustaining them through difficult times. Rick Love, International Director of Frontiers, has recognized the pattern as well. He writes that, "Just as God used a vision to convert Paul, in like manner He reveals Himself to Muslims through dreams and visions. Just as God prepared Cornelius to hear the Gospel through a vision, so God is preparing a multitude of Muslims to respond to His good news."

One believer from Guinea recounts the dream of a figure whom he later believed to be Christ. The figure was in a white robe, calling the man to come to Him. In a related dream, he recalls that the same figure's arms were extended, beckoning him. Dreams of this type have become recognized as a pattern of work among Muslims. Though there are variations, Christ appearing in a white robe is a recurring image among those who have had dreams and visions. Similarly, a Muslim Malay woman was drawn by a vision she had of her Christian parents who had died. She saw them rejoicing with others in heaven. Jesus, appearing in a white robe, said, "If you want to come to me, just come." Feeling that she had tried her entire life to reach God without success, she now saw God initiating the effort to reach her through Jesus.

A convert from the Middle East who had been afflicted with severe headaches was lying on his bed after having prayed for his sick son. A man with a beautiful, peaceful face appeared. Dressed in white, the figure walked to the head of the man's bed and touched him three times on the head. The next morning his headaches were gone. His son, too, was fully healed. Understandably, he now recounts with confidence, "I believe in prayer in the name of the Christ."

The great majority of dreams seem to fall into one of two broad categories. The first could be considered the preparatory dream. Like Christ appearing in a white robe, the vision confirms thoughts or conversations one has been having about Christ or the Christian faith. The second could be called the empowering dream. Here the dream or vision commonly gives the believer strength in the face of persecution. Short of persecution, it may embolden believers, strengthening the nature of their witness.

Preparatory
One Sunni woman from the Arabian Peninsula had a figure appear to her in a dream, telling her to visit a Christian woman she knew. The figure, who she was later convinced was Christ, told her this woman would teach her.

In a fascinating twist on God's use of dreams and sleep, one Algerian recounted how she heard her sleeping Muslim grandmother say, "Jesus is not dead. I want to tell you He is here."

A West African man recounts a succinct, yet powerful vision he had prior to conversion. He saw a devout Muslim in hell and a poor Christian who couldn't afford to give alms in heaven. A voice explained to him that the difference was belief in Jesus.

Empowering Dreams
A North African believer found the needed strength to face his imprisonment from a dream he had while imprisoned for his faith. In it, he saw thousands of believers pouring through the streets of his city, openly proclaiming their faith in his restricted country. While in prison, he was tortured, suspended upside-down naked for hours, beaten with electrified rods and repeatedly threatened with execution. His vision of a day when people of his country would openly proclaim their faith in the streets gave him great strength to persevere through this most difficult time.

Encounter
Though not strictly a dream or a vision, a number of Muslim-background believers have had a significant supernatural encounter that was instrumental in drawing them to Jesus. One Egyptian Muslim was reading the Injil (Gospel), when he came to Luke 3, where the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus in the form of a dove. God said, "This is my son, in whom I am well pleased." As he read those words, a stormy wind broke into his room. A voice spoke to him saying, "I am Jesus Christ, whom you hate. I am the Lord whom you are looking for." He recalls that he "wept and wept, accepting Jesus from that time."

Whatever personal perspective one has on dreams and visions and the Christian walk of faith, it is difficult to consider engaging in ministry to Muslims without a recognition of and an openness for God to continue drawing people to Himself through what may be viewed as unconventional means.
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More AMAZING reports:

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There are numerous reports that many of the Berbers living in the Algerian Atlas Mountains are coming to Christ through similar dreams and visions, forming mostly underground cell-churches. Ahmed Ait Ben Youcef, a native Berber now living abroad, said he found Christ in a way that seems typical for previously Islamic Berbers: "We Berbers always believed in God, but many seek their own way under the pressure of the Islamic Arabs. We young people yearned for the right way for our lives and prayed to God for guidance. One of my friends died in a traffic accident. The following night, I dreamed that he, another friend, and I drove to a bright gleaming city surrounded by a white wall. My friend told us that he now lived there."

An Egyptian Moslem was reading the Gospels according to yet another report and had just reached Luke Chapter 3 when a strong wind swept the room and a voice said, "I am Jesus Christ, whom you hate. I am the Lord you are seeking." He decided to follow Jesus that day.

So widespread are such reports that entire websites are now devoted to such anecdotes -- albeit often careful to maintain anonymity. A well-informed source, who for obvious reasons remains unnamed, reports that a former Islamic "Imam" or spiritual leader has led 3,000 Moslems to Jesus, coming to his belief in Christ through appearances and dreams in which a white Man told him to study the Bible. His method is simple: in conversation, he asks others "Have you seen a white man in your dreams recently?" If they have not, he tells them "I was just wondering. Thanks." If they answer positively, he continues by asking whether they are interested in learning who this white man is. And who is not interested in the identity of a mysterious person who appears in their dreams? The ex-Imam then shows them several Bible passages in which a white-clothed man is mentioned, explaining, "That is Jesus. He wants to speak with you, because He wants you to follow him."

Many Moslems have been prepared for that step by their supernatural encounters, and accept the invitation. Some time ago, Bill Bright, director of the mission agency Campus Crusade for Christ, wrote that "we are experiencing an amazing phenomenon. Moslems in particular are having dreams and visions confirming the reality of Christ. After one radio program reported that Jesus had appeared to many Moslems in a dream and said to them 'I am the way,' the radio station received thousands of letters from Moslems in North Africa and the Middle East, in which the listeners said they had suddenly understood earlier dreams. They then wanted more information about Jesus."
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Praise God!
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Good stuff!
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Excellent but desire to address one salient point in the original post. It is not we who decide ourselves to come to Christ. It is He who draws all of us to Him. He calls us. And one of the dangers, disobeyance in terms of what He told us to do, to love God above all others and to love our neighbor as we love ourselves, not judging any lest we be judged by the same yardstick. Too many Christians, smugly think they should have credit for being believers and forget God has told us that he puts scales over the eyes of many and closes their ears, so they cannot hear His voice through others or literature but until He removes these coverings to the truth. It is His mystery and His purpose, so let us quit being judgemental Christians and recall His words. He would have all reconciled to Him. He will go after the strays before He returns and in the 1000years there is teaching by His saints, the believeers, so who are they teaching? They are teaching those who really had no chance. Just as He went into Paradise to bring His word to those who preceded Him He will bring it to those who have yet to hear it.
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Maranatha! hf
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"Jews" and Christians shall join as one....

I'm starting to believe that instead of "Jews", whom only appeared in bibles altered by Jesuits 200 years ago, the Bible was referring to Arab Muslims.
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"Jews" and Christians shall join as one....

I'm starting to believe that instead of "Jews", whom only appeared in bibles altered by Jesuits 200 years ago, the Bible was referring to Arab Muslims.
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What are you smoking?
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those who still cling onto the false hope of religion will be those who get left behind...

if the rapture does happen, its best they do take them all away, leaving the rest of us in peace.
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those who still cling onto the false hope of religion will be those who get left behind...

if the rapture does happen, its best they do take them all away, leaving the rest of us in peace.
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AMEN TO THAT BROTHER...
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God truly does do miracles in these days.
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EXTRICATING ONES SELF FROM ONE DELUSION, ONLY TO FALL INTO ANOTHER DELUSION, IS NOT MY IDEA OF REAL PROGRESS.
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middle-eastern monotheistic death cult CRAP
worship worship KD
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It can be really difficult being a Christian in a Muslim country...

[link to www.chick.com]
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i think there are equal number, if not greater, that left christianity when they reached the age of reason.
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Please spare us from the followers of Jesus.
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[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]
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"Jews" and Christians shall join as one....

I'm starting to believe that instead of "Jews", whom only appeared in bibles altered by Jesuits 200 years ago, the Bible was referring to Arab Muslims.
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Arabs were Zoroastrian in those times...Islam didn't come until several hundred years after Christ
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freedom to believe is an inborn trait
and you should never disparage it
do you want someone to tell you what to believe?
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[link to groups.msn.com]
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Jesus never authorized the forcing of anyone to believe a religion
this is why Islam is oppressive
they think they can force someone to live in submission to God
and it can't be forced
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freedom to believe is an inborn trait
and you should never disparage it
do you want someone to tell you what to believe?
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What are you trying to say?
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This is one of religion's biggest scams.

Jesus is NOT someone you can choose. You must be CHOSEN.

John 6:44 says that "NO ONE can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me DRAGS (Gr. Helkuo) him . . . "

So if God has to DRAG you to His Son (by tribulation, foxholes or whatever) It is highly improbable that you can 'enter His fold' by someone's rehearsed script, a 'sinners' prayer or an alter call.
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You Asshole! You and your Fucking Jesus can Kiss My Ass!

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You Asshole! You and your Fucking Jesus can Kiss My Ass!

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There's a NEW NAME, Revelations say's this three time's
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This is one of religion's biggest scams.

Jesus is NOT someone you can choose. You must be CHOSEN.

John 6:44 says that "NO ONE can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me DRAGS (Gr. Helkuo) him . . . "

So if God has to DRAG you to His Son (by tribulation, foxholes or whatever) It is highly improbable that you can 'enter His fold' by someone's rehearsed script, a 'sinners' prayer or an alter call.
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You are completely wrong

That is a very faulty translation there

Read these scriptures:

I Timothy 2:3-4

2 Peter 3:9
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This is one of religion's biggest scams.

Jesus is NOT someone you can choose. You must be CHOSEN.

John 6:44 says that "NO ONE can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me DRAGS (Gr. Helkuo) him . . . "

So if God has to DRAG you to His Son (by tribulation, foxholes or whatever) It is highly improbable that you can 'enter His fold' by someone's rehearsed script, a 'sinners' prayer or an alter call.
 Quoting: ButchHowdy


Sorry Butch..its says:

If you seek Me (Jesus), you will find Me.

If you draw close to Me, I WILL draw close to you.

If you knock, I will answer.

I came to seek the lost (the Holy Spirit seeks out the lost)

No man can come to the Father, except through the Son, for "I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

As for chosen ones, He knew us BEFORE we were born,
"I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb"

Jeremiah 1:5 (NLT)



Psalm 139


A psalm of David.

1 O Lord, you have examined my heart
and know everything about me.
2 You know when I sit down or stand up.
You know my thoughts even when I’m far away.
3 You see me when I travel
and when I rest at home.
You know everything I do.
4 You know what I am going to say
even before I say it, Lord.
5 You go before me and follow me.
You place your hand of blessing on my head.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too great for me to understand!
7 I can never escape from your Spirit!
I can never get away from your presence!
8 If I go up to heaven, you are there;
if I go down to the grave,[a] you are there.
9 If I ride the wings of the morning,
if I dwell by the farthest oceans,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
and your strength will support me.
11 I could ask the darkness to hide me
and the light around me to become night—
12 but even in darkness I cannot hide from you.
To you the night shines as bright as day.
Darkness and light are the same to you.

13 You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body
and knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex!
Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it.
15 You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion,
as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16 You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out
before a single day had passed.

17 How precious are your thoughts about me, O God.
They cannot be numbered!
18 I can’t even count them;
they outnumber the grains of sand!
And when I wake up,
you are still with me!

19 O God, if only you would destroy the wicked!
Get out of my life, you murderers!
20 They blaspheme you;
your enemies misuse your name.
21 O Lord, shouldn’t I hate those who hate you?
Shouldn’t I despise those who oppose you?
22 Yes, I hate them with total hatred,
for your enemies are my enemies.



For you especially ButchHowdy!

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 Point out anything in me that offends you,
and lead me along the path of everlasting life.
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This is one of religion's biggest scams.

Jesus is NOT someone you can choose. You must be CHOSEN.

John 6:44 says that "NO ONE can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me DRAGS (Gr. Helkuo) him . . . "

So if God has to DRAG you to His Son (by tribulation, foxholes or whatever) It is highly improbable that you can 'enter His fold' by someone's rehearsed script, a 'sinners' prayer or an alter call.


Sorry Butch..its says:

If you seek Me (Jesus), you will find Me.

If you draw close to Me, I WILL draw close to you.

If you knock, I will answer.

I came to seek the lost (the Holy Spirit seeks out the lost)

No man can come to the Father, except through the Son, for "I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

As for chosen ones, He knew us BEFORE we were born,
"I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb"

Jeremiah 1:5 (NLT)



Psalm 139


A psalm of David.

1 O Lord, you have examined my heart
and know everything about me.
2 You know when I sit down or stand up.
You know my thoughts even when I’m far away.
3 You see me when I travel
and when I rest at home.
You know everything I do.
4 You know what I am going to say
even before I say it, Lord.
5 You go before me and follow me.
You place your hand of blessing on my head.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too great for me to understand!
7 I can never escape from your Spirit!
I can never get away from your presence!
8 If I go up to heaven, you are there;
if I go down to the grave,[a] you are there.
9 If I ride the wings of the morning,
if I dwell by the farthest oceans,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
and your strength will support me.
11 I could ask the darkness to hide me
and the light around me to become night—
12 but even in darkness I cannot hide from you.
To you the night shines as bright as day.
Darkness and light are the same to you.

13 You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body
and knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex!
Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it.
15 You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion,
as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16 You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out
before a single day had passed.

17 How precious are your thoughts about me, O God.
They cannot be numbered!
18 I can’t even count them;
they outnumber the grains of sand!
And when I wake up,
you are still with me!

19 O God, if only you would destroy the wicked!
Get out of my life, you murderers!
20 They blaspheme you;
your enemies misuse your name.
21 O Lord, shouldn’t I hate those who hate you?
Shouldn’t I despise those who oppose you?
22 Yes, I hate them with total hatred,
for your enemies are my enemies.



For you especially ButchHowdy!

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 Point out anything in me that offends you,
and lead me along the path of everlasting life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 296031



Good scriptures!
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The Death Son of GOD :D

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth houre was come, there was darkenesse ouer the whole land, vntill the ninth houre.
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth houre, Iesus cryed with a loude voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lamasabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
Mar 15:36 And one ranne, and filled a spunge full of vineger, and put it on a reed, and gaue him to drinke, saying, Let alone, let vs see whether Elias will come to take him downe.
Mar 15:37 And Iesus cryed with a loude voice, and gaue vp the ghost.
Mar 15:38 And the vaile of the Temple was rent in twaine, from the top to the bottome.
Mar 15:39 And when the Centurion which stood ouer against him, saw that hee so cryed out, and gaue vp the ghost, hee said, Truely this man was the Sonne of God.
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The Death Son of GOD :D

Mar 15:33 And when the sixth houre was come, there was darkenesse ouer the whole land, vntill the ninth houre.
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth houre, Iesus cryed with a loude voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lamasabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
Mar 15:36 And one ranne, and filled a spunge full of vineger, and put it on a reed, and gaue him to drinke, saying, Let alone, let vs see whether Elias will come to take him downe.
Mar 15:37 And Iesus cryed with a loude voice, and gaue vp the ghost.
Mar 15:38 And the vaile of the Temple was rent in twaine, from the top to the bottome.
Mar 15:39 And when the Centurion which stood ouer against him, saw that hee so cryed out, and gaue vp the ghost, hee said, Truely this man was the Sonne of God.
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What translation is this?
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It is time for everyone on GLP to WAKE UP and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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