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This is why rockets do not work in space

 
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This is why rockets do not work in space
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Dumbass.
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The pressure drops but there is zero work done. Brilliant!
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Dumbass.
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So you're calling yourself a dumbass because you cannot defend rockets working in space?
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lmao
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then they must not be in space for they do work.

which is it?
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Op,

imagine a similar box with one half hydrogen and the other oxygen. Outside the box is the vacuum of space. Combine the gases causing a violent explosive reaction generating great heat and largely water to form, then release the pressure of this reaction out of a hole in the box to space. What escapes is water vapor, steam and even ice crystals at very high velocity. Can you not see how the result will transfer momentum via the pressure waves transmitted through the escaping gas/vapor column to the box.
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Op,

imagine a similar box with one half hydrogen and the other oxygen. Outside the box is the vacuum of space. Combine the gases causing a violent explosive reaction generating great heat and largely water to form, then release the pressure of this reaction out of a hole in the box to space. What escapes is water vapor, steam and even ice crystals at very high velocity. Can you not see how the result will transfer momentum via the pressure waves transmitted through the escaping gas/vapor column to the box.
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NO he, she, it, whatever it wants to call itself, cannot see that. It is a dimwit.
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Even the turd on the video is wrong

T 1 is not equal to T2

When any gas expands it changes temperature.

Albeit a very very small change, but yes there will be a temp change upon the gas in box 1 expaning to fill both sides.


Fuckin tards.
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Even the turd on the video is wrong

T 1 is not equal to T2

When any gas expands it changes temperature.

Albeit a very very small change, but yes there will be a temp change upon the gas in box 1 expaning to fill both sides.


Fuckin tards.
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He clearly said assuming that there is no temperature change. He is not wrong. Where is your correct version?
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Op,

imagine a similar box with one half hydrogen and the other oxygen. Outside the box is the vacuum of space. Combine the gases causing a violent explosive reaction generating great heat and largely water to form, then release the pressure of this reaction out of a hole in the box to space. What escapes is water vapor, steam and even ice crystals at very high velocity. Can you not see how the result will transfer momentum via the pressure waves transmitted through the escaping gas/vapor column to the box.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73374315


The explosive reaction just creates heat and pressure. Only thing that is not 0 is Q. Work done remains 0. Pressure is potential energy that is released so there is no work required for gas to move into a vacuum. Can't shill your way out of the truth
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No, it has nothing to do with rockets. The calculations are for "Free Expansion of Gas".

Rockets work because of "Action and Reaction".
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You're just pissed off we (Canada) never put a rocket into space.
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Flat Earth tards are now doing flat Earth physics.
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I find the Paper written by H.M. Akram interesting

It is titled, "Review of the history of concepts about vacuum space."




I know we are taught and retaught and taught again that above our atmosphere there is a vacuum but have you ever thought to question that concept.


What experiment proved that above the atmosphere there is a vacuum.



I know we have been raised on NASA propaganda and movies with rocket ships but if you can truly set that aside and rebuild the history of the vacuum it is interesting.




In the paper I noted by H.M.Akram after reviewing all of the history he states, "quantum vacuum physics is the physics of nothing but the philosophy of everything.


This is what happens when the foundation is incorrect. Truth is plan and simple and does not need a web of contortions. Truth is easily understood by all.

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No, it has nothing to do with rockets. The calculations are for "Free Expansion of Gas".

Rockets work because of "Action and Reaction".
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What happens in the rocket chamber?combustion reaction of fuel create gas and heat in which the pressure is increased significantly. When the rocket chamber opens, there is free expansion of gas into the vacuum of space. Therefore no energy required to push the gas/fluid out and thus reaction also is 0. The only energy input is to create the pressure. Pressure is potential energy which can be released.
Just like gravity is potential energy. It takes the initial energy to take a rock to the highest point of a cliff. The rock has potential energy as it can now freely fall of the cliff without further energy input when dropped. The rock does not push back when you drop it off the cliff.
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A rocket works because the exploding gas/whatever expands and puts pressure on all directions of it's container. If the pressure is allowed to escape from the jet end, the pressure will be on all parts of the container Except where the exhaust exits. The rocket goes forward because the expanding gas puts pressure on the chamber bulkheads, opposite of where the gas is escaping. The jet doesn't work by pushing against the "air". If anything, the jet works better if there isn't air to impede the outflow of gas.
I'm sure someone else could say it better, but that's the idea.
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Even the turd on the video is wrong

T 1 is not equal to T2

When any gas expands it changes temperature.

Albeit a very very small change, but yes there will be a temp change upon the gas in box 1 expaning to fill both sides.


Fuckin tards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74642125


He clearly said assuming that there is no temperature change. He is not wrong. Where is your correct version?
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That's like saying "assuming this rock levitates when I let go".

And you know what happens when you assume.
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It's Ok to insist on being wrong. It's fine to embrace stupidity for the sake of being "edgy"

Just don't be surprised at the results.
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Re: This is why rockets do not work in space
No, it has nothing to do with rockets. The calculations are for "Free Expansion of Gas".

Rockets work because of "Action and Reaction".
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What happens in the rocket chamber?combustion reaction of fuel create gas and heat in which the pressure is increased significantly. When the rocket chamber opens, there is free expansion of gas into the vacuum of space. Therefore no energy required to push the gas/fluid out and thus reaction also is 0. The only energy input is to create the pressure. Pressure is potential energy which can be released.
Just like gravity is potential energy. It takes the initial energy to take a rock to the highest point of a cliff. The rock has potential energy as it can now freely fall of the cliff without further energy input when dropped. The rock does not push back when you drop it off the cliff.
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Why are you calling an explosion (burning of fuel + oxygen) as "free expansion"? The scenario in the video does not apply.

Even if it did apply to the situation, it does not apply to the problem of rocket propulsion, which has do do with action/reaction.

You need to do calculations based upon momentum, not expansion of gases.
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It's Ok to insist on being wrong. It's fine to embrace stupidity for the sake of being "edgy"

Just don't be surprised at the results.
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The exhaust isn't freely expanding, its being forced mostly in one direction.

Put an explosion next to a ball in space and the ball will be hit be and moved by the gases.

Same thing happens inside the rocket but even more efficiently with a good nozzle.
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Rockets can work in space because of Newton's Third Law.
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The exhaust isn't freely expanding, its being forced mostly in one direction.

Put an explosion next to a ball in space and the ball will be hit be and moved by the gases.

Same thing happens inside the rocket but even more efficiently with a good nozzle.
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exactly, the gasses push against the nozzle.
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Rockets can work in space because of Newton's Third Law.
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Jets and Rockets work in the Earth's Atmosphere because of
Newton's Third Law.

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Is life really hard or a lot easier when you're borderline retarded? I've often wondered what it would be like to have no ability to think and to be easily swayed by others with slightly more brainpower.
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Is life really hard or a lot easier when you're borderline retarded? I've often wondered what it would be like to have no ability to think and to be easily swayed by others with slightly more brainpower.
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they teach Newton's Third Law in the 5th Grade.

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Dumbass.
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You're giving her way too much credit...
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The exhaust isn't freely expanding, its being forced mostly in one direction.

Put an explosion next to a ball in space and the ball will be hit be and moved by the gases.

Same thing happens inside the rocket but even more efficiently with a good nozzle.
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No it's not, it is is expanding. Combustion reaction creates pressure which is the released. You can ignore math and just take NASA's word for it, but you will still be wrong


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