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I need DUDE HELP -- Wife is Divorcing Me -- About to binge listen to Nine Inch Nails, while Chad likes his lips

 
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As far as the facebook thing, the day after i moved out, i unfriended everyone and deactivated my account. I wasnt very active anyway. Hate that damn thing
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Tell her you think it's a good idea. You have plans and she didn't really fit into them. Be emotionless and cold. Actually feel yourself letting go.

Either she will snap out of it due to the female curiosity of what you are up to, or she will realize what she is losing...or at least you will have some momentum on your way to a better life.
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If you really want to torture yourself, you should binge listen Nickelback
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Whatever you do, keep on keeping on for the kids. Whatever mistakes you make, bad decisions, drama you play into for someone else or yourself, whatever STD you contract.....whatever happens, keep on going for the kids. Been where you are. it is a tough tough road, and never ends. But you gotta keep on going no matter what. Don't get caught up in drama. Get caught up in your kids. They need you.
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Emotional blows take time, watch all your favorite movies so you don't dwell on this, and binge watch Two and a Half Men on Netflix. Your brain and neurotransmitter need time to wind down, your feelings are all hormones and chemicals, with some time they'll change. And so will your point of view. Good luck.

What did you mean facebook fucked up everything? I hate facebook, I never go on there although I set up a page years ago. It's like one of those Christmas cards with the annual family newsletter, but every damn day not just Christmas. So it's not the chocolate cake everyone thought it was?
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Facebook was a poison pill for our marriage.

Our marriage was good and we were passionate about each other. I was more of an alpha then I guess.

But a few years later she dove in head deep into Facebook. She had tons of friends there and would chat with them (including "guy friends") all day, talking movie trivia and stuff like that while I slaved away at the job, coming home stressed out. So the guys she talked to on FB were "fun" while I seemed boring.

Next to that, everyone on FB brags about their vacations, new granite top counters, backyard patios, etc. With all the kids, we just couldn't swing that at the time.

And that didn't make me look so good. But damna man, I worked my ass off to provide for her, do chores, to love her, etc.
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It sucks right now, and will for a while, but you will survive. My husband did the same to me after 15 years. It can be a difficult time building a new life, but you will survive and adapt, OP.

It's actually nice to be your own person, answer to no one and do what you want. It's liberating, calming and satisfying.
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So true.. It gets better and others have been through this and more.. You will survive and be a better person for it
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Tonight the wife wants us to tell the kids were divorcing.

And today I feel punched in the stomach and tempted to binge listen to Nine Inch Nails.

I dont know how Ill emotionally survive this.

Weve been married 15 years. Got kids.

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Once they get your sperm, they don't want you anymore.

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It is unbiblical for the wife to divorce the husband. Get that bitch back in line. Biblically, you are the property of God, and she is your property.

Best start owning that shit.
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Remember this: No good marriage ever ended in divorce.

The best revenge is a life lived well. Let her see you smile a lot when you pickup / drop off the kids. It would help if you were actually feeling good, so fake it 'till you make it. (I just threw up in my mouth a little typing that last bit)
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Yeah well, you're living in a fantasy world thinking shoving your cock into someone's throat or shoving a woman around is going to work with every female.

Some guys just don't want to treat the mother of their kids that way.

And some women actually get enraged if you try that tough guy act.
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I dated a mexican after my divorce. I wasnt mean in any way, but she get so pissed at the smallest things. Complete nut job. Great in bed though
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That's funny because I was actually wondering if that's what I might need, a nice SEnorita. I'm assuming of course they're not the pamper-me princess types.
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She was cool until she got 1 cervesa in her, then shit hit the fan. She was from a culture that doesnt quite fit my style. Im not a fighter. Hate arguing
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THIS!

I hate the fucking arguments.

My wife would argue at the drop of a dime.

And she'd say the meanest damn things, stuff reserved for street thugs, you know?

And it would mentally fuck me up. But she didn't care. All that mattered to her at the time was to win that argument.

Not whether it was like pouring acid on our relationship.

But I was hoping the senoritas were better. I'm a white guy and would prefer a white gal, but most of the white gals I see are the wannabe rich types who expect you to pamper them and buy them expensive shit all the time.

The senoritas seem more down to earth, not like someone you have to put on a performance for.
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Get laid pronto.
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your only hope is to find a Brady Bunch scenario...

yeah that could happen...



but seriously, this is your best option so, go find yourself a widow...
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Tell her you think it's a good idea. You have plans and she didn't really fit into them. Be emotionless and cold. Actually feel yourself letting go.

Either she will snap out of it due to the female curiosity of what you are up to, or she will realize what she is losing...or at least you will have some momentum on your way to a better life.
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Actually I sort of did that these last few months.

Prior to that, the arguments we had were insane, near heart-attack inducing.

So I started emotionally distancing myself so I wouldn't take things so seriously.

And to be frank, I think that to a big degree brought me to where I'm at now.
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couple of important pointers...

STAY OUT OF COURT if at all possible, you will be assraped

Go around the house and video all of your possessions, she will loot the house while you are away paying her bills, you will need evidence for court if that happens

DO NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE that is the same as giving her the house, stay in and squat like a motherfucker no matter what, she can leave if she wants

if you end up in court, make sure the first thing you do is visit the free lawyers in the courthouse, the pay lawyers will blow smoke up your ass to get as much money as possible then drop you like a rock when the money runs out

if your court doesn't have the self help center, go to another one in the same state

that's about it for the major points

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It is unbiblical for the wife to divorce the husband. Get that bitch back in line. Biblically, you are the property of God, and she is your property.

Best start owning that shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72586671


That sounds good and I agree.

But you can't play that tough guy, alpha male stuff with her like this.

In the bedroom though you can. But having been called cruel names, I just don't want to worship the body of someone who'd talk to me like that.
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One more thing no one in their right mind will want to raise five kids from another marriage.. It won't work out for her but don't take her back when it fails she clearly doesn't love you
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give her whatever money she wants, a little more than you are comfortable with, to stay out of court NO MATTER WHAT

i can't emphasize this enough

go to outside mediation services and draft an agreement for the court, then just send it in, do not let a judge decide this you will have your dick chopped off and handed to you for lunch
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Get a dog and go fishing.5a
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Damn right.

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couple of important pointers...

STAY OUT OF COURT if at all possible, you will be assraped

Go around the house and video all of your possessions, she will loot the house while you are away paying her bills, you will need evidence for court if that happens

DO NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE that is the same as giving her the house, stay in and squat like a motherfucker no matter what, she can leave if she wants

if you end up in court, make sure the first thing you do is visit the free lawyers in the courthouse, the pay lawyers will blow smoke up your ass to get as much money as possible then drop you like a rock when the money runs out

if your court doesn't have the self help center, go to another one in the same state

that's about it for the major points

anonstoner
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Good suggestions the house thing and belongings I wish I'd done
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Way to prevent this was to eliminate negative influences, i.e., cult marx media, and her friends who consume cult marx media.

She is just a conduit for J*w*sh poison.

This would have had to be done early on, however. Now her demented female ego has a life of its own.

Your last ditch effort might be to get her to look 10 or 15 years in the future, to explain that she is statistically unlikely to have another fulfilling relationship, that her kids will be repeat her mistakes and be ruined, and that she will end up wrinkly, alone, unwanted, neurotic.

Plant seeds of doubt. Women are secretly extremely insecure. Play on her paranoia about her social standing. Paint a terrible picture for her. Make her glimpse that she is being made a fool of by our sick culture.

Probably won't work at this point, but if you are determined and cunning enough, it just might.
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It is unbiblical for the wife to divorce the husband. Get that bitch back in line. Biblically, you are the property of God, and she is your property.

Best start owning that shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72586671


That sounds good and I agree.

But you can't play that tough guy, alpha male stuff with her like this.

In the bedroom though you can. But having been called cruel names, I just don't want to worship the body of someone who'd talk to me like that.
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if she is being cruel it's time to go

just stay out of court, go find outside mediation NOW
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and DON'T LEAVE THE HOUSE no matter what
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Tonight the wife wants us to tell the kids were divorcing.

And today I feel punched in the stomach and tempted to binge listen to Nine Inch Nails.

I dont know how Ill emotionally survive this.

Weve been married 15 years. Got kids.

All these years man, all I did was take care of her. But in arguments shed graphically tell me how much she thinks I suck. She expended more KINETIC ENERGY chewing me out than she did telling me she loved me.

And fuck, thats what I wanted, a true blue wife who loved me.

Facebook fucked everything up for us.

That and her wannabe rich friends who drove luxury cars but were in debt to their eyeballs.

This caused her to shift her perception of me from being her beloved husband to some faceless personality filling the role of husband expected to do breadwin, do most of the chores, pay the bills, and shuttle back to his backyard shed.

Making this worse is shes the only girlfriend/woman Ive ever had or been with.

We have five boys.

My question is, who the hell is going to want a 40-something person thats got five boys?

I think her friends convinced her that shell have the time of her life. I know she could get dates lined up easily if she wanted to.

For me, the thought of sitting home alone on Friday night watching my boys while shes on a date is like a knife being driven into the heart. How the fuck will I survive this?

I feel like I want to find a woman that I can experience true love with pronto.

Luckily for me, Im in shape, got some muscle, and get some female glances. But Im not a tall Chad and Im not outgoing like Chad, but Ive got wit.

Still, Im afraid of getting lost in love with another woman again. My wife years ago told me that no matter what shed never leave me or divorce me, that all she needed to be happy was me and the kids.

(Sad laugh. Takes swig of beer.)

So how the hell do I get over this?

I cant do the clubbing/bar scene to find a good woman. And I hear the dating sites are scams.

Any thoughts?

I want to voice my feelings of being disenfranchised like this and put that back at her that she promised shed never leave me. But that wouldnt be a good idea because were actually getting along much better now than we have for the past few months.

Aside from figuring out how to deal with my emotional Chernobyl, and the wasteland that is dating, should I get an apartment close by to the kids or have some distance?

(P.S. Dont mention money or legal stuff. We got that squared away.)

Thank you.
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Go over to chads and drive a nine inch nail in his fuckingf forehead, man up snowflake, at least you'll feel good after doing it
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and VIDEO ALL YOUR SHIT NOW
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The senioritas arent the pamper, put a perfomance on type, they're the :freak the fuck out on your ass" type and if that dont do it, the "ima get my uncle and cousins on your ass" type. Find a shy quiet white girl that was supressed in her last marriage. Looking to open up and learn but they also understand the shittier side
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Way to prevent this was to eliminate negative influences, i.e., cult marx media, and her friends who consume cult marx media.

She is just a conduit for J*w*sh poison.

This would have had to be done early on, however. Now her demented female ego has a life of its own.

Your last ditch effort might be to get her to look 10 or 15 years in the future, to explain that she is statistically unlikely to have another fulfilling relationship, that her kids will be repeat her mistakes and be ruined, and that she will end up wrinkly, alone, unwanted, neurotic.

Plant seeds of doubt. Women are secretly extremely insecure. Play on her paranoia about her social standing. Paint a terrible picture for her. Make her glimpse that she is being made a fool of by our sick culture.

Probably won't work at this point, but if you are determined and cunning enough, it just might.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72592284


Not in terms of planting seeds of doubt, but I thought of saying exactly this.

I don't know what she's thinking. But hey, there's plenty of desparate men out there, so maybe she would find one to be "new dad."
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Way to prevent this was to eliminate negative influences, i.e., cult marx media, and her friends who consume cult marx media.

She is just a conduit for J*w*sh poison.

This would have had to be done early on, however. Now her demented female ego has a life of its own.

Your last ditch effort might be to get her to look 10 or 15 years in the future, to explain that she is statistically unlikely to have another fulfilling relationship, that her kids will be repeat her mistakes and be ruined, and that she will end up wrinkly, alone, unwanted, neurotic.

Plant seeds of doubt. Women are secretly extremely insecure. Play on her paranoia about her social standing. Paint a terrible picture for her. Make her glimpse that she is being made a fool of by our sick culture.

Probably won't work at this point, but if you are determined and cunning enough, it just might.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72592284


Get her to think about some lonely old women you both know. Make clear to her that she can choose this future, or she can endure this period of relationship frustration, stick it out, and have a 100x better life, long-term.
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Tonight the wife wants us to tell the kids were divorcing.

And today I feel punched in the stomach and tempted to binge listen to Nine Inch Nails.

I dont know how Ill emotionally survive this.

Weve been married 15 years. Got kids.

All these years man, all I did was take care of her. But in arguments shed graphically tell me how much she thinks I suck. She expended more KINETIC ENERGY chewing me out than she did telling me she loved me.

And fuck, thats what I wanted, a true blue wife who loved me.

Facebook fucked everything up for us.

That and her wannabe rich friends who drove luxury cars but were in debt to their eyeballs.

This caused her to shift her perception of me from being her beloved husband to some faceless personality filling the role of husband expected to do breadwin, do most of the chores, pay the bills, and shuttle back to his backyard shed.

Making this worse is shes the only girlfriend/woman Ive ever had or been with.

We have five boys.

My question is, who the hell is going to want a 40-something person thats got five boys?

I think her friends convinced her that shell have the time of her life. I know she could get dates lined up easily if she wanted to.

For me, the thought of sitting home alone on Friday night watching my boys while shes on a date is like a knife being driven into the heart. How the fuck will I survive this?

I feel like I want to find a woman that I can experience true love with pronto.

Luckily for me, Im in shape, got some muscle, and get some female glances. But Im not a tall Chad and Im not outgoing like Chad, but Ive got wit.

Still, Im afraid of getting lost in love with another woman again. My wife years ago told me that no matter what shed never leave me or divorce me, that all she needed to be happy was me and the kids.

(Sad laugh. Takes swig of beer.)

So how the hell do I get over this?

I cant do the clubbing/bar scene to find a good woman. And I hear the dating sites are scams.

Any thoughts?

I want to voice my feelings of being disenfranchised like this and put that back at her that she promised shed never leave me. But that wouldnt be a good idea because were actually getting along much better now than we have for the past few months.

Aside from figuring out how to deal with my emotional Chernobyl, and the wasteland that is dating, should I get an apartment close by to the kids or have some distance?

(P.S. Dont mention money or legal stuff. We got that squared away.)

Thank you.
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Go over to chads and drive a nine inch nail in his fuckingf forehead, man up snowflake, at least you'll feel good after doing it
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Let Nine INch Nails put you on the 9'o clock news.
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No wonder she left you, you are a retard who is pushing the Chad psyop.

I hope she gave you herpes while she was cheating on you.
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Tonight the wife wants us to tell the kids were divorcing.

And today I feel punched in the stomach and tempted to binge listen to Nine Inch Nails.

I dont know how Ill emotionally survive this.

Weve been married 15 years. Got kids.

All these years man, all I did was take care of her. But in arguments shed graphically tell me how much she thinks I suck. She expended more KINETIC ENERGY chewing me out than she did telling me she loved me.

And fuck, thats what I wanted, a true blue wife who loved me.

Facebook fucked everything up for us.

That and her wannabe rich friends who drove luxury cars but were in debt to their eyeballs.

This caused her to shift her perception of me from being her beloved husband to some faceless personality filling the role of husband expected to do breadwin, do most of the chores, pay the bills, and shuttle back to his backyard shed.

Making this worse is shes the only girlfriend/woman Ive ever had or been with.

We have five boys.

My question is, who the hell is going to want a 40-something person thats got five boys?

I think her friends convinced her that shell have the time of her life. I know she could get dates lined up easily if she wanted to.

For me, the thought of sitting home alone on Friday night watching my boys while shes on a date is like a knife being driven into the heart. How the fuck will I survive this?

I feel like I want to find a woman that I can experience true love with pronto.

Luckily for me, Im in shape, got some muscle, and get some female glances. But Im not a tall Chad and Im not outgoing like Chad, but Ive got wit.

Still, Im afraid of getting lost in love with another woman again. My wife years ago told me that no matter what shed never leave me or divorce me, that all she needed to be happy was me and the kids.

(Sad laugh. Takes swig of beer.)

So how the hell do I get over this?

I cant do the clubbing/bar scene to find a good woman. And I hear the dating sites are scams.

Any thoughts?

I want to voice my feelings of being disenfranchised like this and put that back at her that she promised shed never leave me. But that wouldnt be a good idea because were actually getting along much better now than we have for the past few months.

Aside from figuring out how to deal with my emotional Chernobyl, and the wasteland that is dating, should I get an apartment close by to the kids or have some distance?

(P.S. Dont mention money or legal stuff. We got that squared away.)

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71473722


Go over to chads and drive a nine inch nail in his fuckingf forehead, man up snowflake, at least you'll feel good after doing it
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Then after chads leaves her out of fear, and she's miserable , divorce her
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Way to prevent this was to eliminate negative influences, i.e., cult marx media, and her friends who consume cult marx media.

She is just a conduit for J*w*sh poison.

This would have had to be done early on, however. Now her demented female ego has a life of its own.

Your last ditch effort might be to get her to look 10 or 15 years in the future, to explain that she is statistically unlikely to have another fulfilling relationship, that her kids will be repeat her mistakes and be ruined, and that she will end up wrinkly, alone, unwanted, neurotic.

Plant seeds of doubt. Women are secretly extremely insecure. Play on her paranoia about her social standing. Paint a terrible picture for her. Make her glimpse that she is being made a fool of by our sick culture.

Probably won't work at this point, but if you are determined and cunning enough, it just might.
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Get her to think about some lonely old women you both know. Make clear to her that she can choose this future, or she can endure this period of relationship frustration, stick it out, and have a 100x better life, long-term.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72592284


FUCK THAT BULLSHIT!!!
It will be a cold day in hell before I'll be with a woman that doesn't want to be with me.
Have some fucking self respect!!
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