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Zedakah

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My wife moved to be with me in Alabama from Corvallis. She hated where we were for 5 years in mid-south Alabama, but we recently moved to the northwest corner of Florence. She absolutely loves it and says it's the closest place in Alabama to Corvallis. The real estate is dirt cheap from what I'm used to as well. The weather is a good 10 degrees cooler from the rest of the state with about a third of the humidity as well.
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Hmmm... Not very keen on the south, other than visiting, but will look into the area you mentioned.

Thanks!
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10 degrees cooler than the rest of Alabama is still about 30 degrees hotter than what the OP is used to in Oregon.
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Probably, but my wife lived most of her life in Oregon and she's fine where we live now. As far as weather goes in the south, she loves western North Carolina. But, where we live now isn't that bad. The actual temperature doesn't matter near as much as the humidity level here.

Feel free to email if you have any specific questions.

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Grand Junction or Montrose.
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colorado is gone now.
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Actually, Colorado is America's little Saudi Arabia... lots of home owner's quietly getting $$$ from the fracking companies extracting oil and gas from their land.

Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, they don't want more people moving there....

Colorado is the safest place to be right now. You'll see....
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Grand Junction or Montrose.
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colorado is gone now.
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OP here...

I lived there for the 1st 31 years of my life. Born and raised in the Denver area. Aurora, mostly.

I left there 22.5 years ago, and never looked back. The traffic, the pollution, the gangbangers, the crime, the gestapo police, etc... It was like living in L.A..

Been here on the Oregon coast now for 22.5 years. But it's time to relocate. This entire state is run by Portland and Salem, in the same way Kalifornia is run by Sacramento.

If I had my ultimate way, the state of Jefferson would reignite and become a reality, and NW Cal and SW Oregon would unite and become a new state.

If it ever does happen, I will move back here to the southern Oregon coast. It is beautiful here, but I'm sick of the pervasive Libscum insanity and Kalifornians changing everything for the worse.
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You lived in Colorado 22 years ago? It's changed a lot. For the better....for obvious reasons.

Aurora is a dump, of course you were unhappy. There are so many cool safe desirable places to live in Colorado. Sounds like you left after being chewed up and spit out.
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What about Montana, there are lots of places there where there are very few people.
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And now, even in this small town I live in, there are Illegals EVERYWHERE, to the point where it feels like I am living in El Salvador.
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have you considered El Salvador?

it appears there's a shortage of people there.

lol
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Sounds like you've narrowed it down pretty well, OP.

The entire east coast is out for the heat and humidity in the summer alone. Plus the South and gulf coast as well for the same reason.

The west coast is full of crazies as you've already observed.

Most of the midwest would bring too much snow for you in the winter.

Arizona and New Mexico might have some places that would work.

There aren't many places in the US with a climate like Oregon.
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I'm probably relocating to Vancouver, WA next year.
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Btw my daughter lives in Portland. They are on the "right" of the political spectrum. There are some Millinials that are Republican, though few and far between (in that zone). They don't go to the "Protests" and live out towards Beaverton. Some parts of Southern Oregon are better too. How about moving inland from where you are? Eugene is a better fit. I dislike Portland for the reasons you described.
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OP here... Different IP.

Moving inland will not alleviate the reason that I said I wanted to move out of state. I already live in southern Oregon, on the coast.

You couldn't pay me enough to live in Eugene, or as I call it, "Portland Lite".

I have considered moving inland to the Roseburg area on many an occasion over the last 10 years, but even IT has been Kalifornicated over the last 5 years. It used to be the only conservative town on the I-5 corridor, but over the last 5 years, it's been flooded with these motherfucking LOCUSTS from Kalifornia. Even the Umpqua Community College shooter was a recent So Calk transplant.

The only reason I wanted to move inland, was to feel safer from "the BIG one". The 9.5 Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake that is overdue here.

But the whole idea of my wanting to move now, is to escape Libscum INSANITY. And the most recent example of which, being that ILLEGAL new gun confiscation "law" that was passed.

The libtardism in this once beautiful state has reached UNBEARABLE proportions. And now, with legal dope, more and more libturds are flocking here. Oregon is at the top of the list, of states where people are moving from one state to another.

And now, even in this small town I live in, there are Illegals EVERYWHERE, to the point where it feels like I am living in El Salvador.
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They have killed our country.
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Canon City
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Colorado? Where the prison is?
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Canon City
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What do you like about that location?

hmm
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So, I have been looking at towns in Arizona that are between 5-7 thousand feet in elevation. They do get some snow, but none that hangs around for a long time, except for maybe Flagstaff at over 7 thousand feet, but it too expensive to live there anyway.

I'm looking to buy a small acreage, maybe 1-5 acres that is at least close enough to a town of between 15-50 thousand to be able to drive to within a half hour, when I need to.


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^ Guffey to Rye.
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Grand Junction or Montrose.
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If I do ever move back to Colorado, it will be on the Western Slope,
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Paonia.
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1 of the biggest concerns will be property taxes.as you begin to drive and search,check out the local school and community buildings. you will be the 1 paying for these afterall.as our population ages and the boomers start to die off,rural areas will see tax increases. this is happening in some areas already. rural means less jobs so the ppl who live there are retired or welfare.these areas are already having $$ problems since states play "kick the can down the road". as states don't have enough funds the only thing they do is raise minimum wage<which is a tax increase more than it is help> and send mandates to local gov to fund. these local govs are starting to realize they have a problem. all they can do is raise property taxes. that is not going to be enough.
2nd you will want water. clean stream fed lake and spring is best.a small creak that runs fast in spring and fall but dries up thru summer is not going to help.drilling 50 feet is not the answere if STHTF.
3rd and this is more important,protection from what you believe may happen.this is critical. you must think "what do i feel will happen" and consider many scenarios.if you prep for just economics and laws then you have only half prepared.both of those change constantly.they can become bad where ever you move..... then what? move again?? what about EQ's,weather problems,asteroids,nukes,yellowstone, etc?
i have chosen an area i feel is safe from most things.it is midway of several major metro's.this keeps us near family but far from large cities with a good buffer around us.with many small hunting communities around,the trouble has to get past lots before it would be a problem to us.if i could wave a magic wand and choose,i would opt for a mountain to my northeast to protect from space.throw in a big cave or 2 and we would be set.we continue looking because property taxes and prices keep going higher.also water is a top priority and i don't want to take something and regret it later.i have let places go because of that.i would settle for a shack or barn if i find the right land.
good luck with your search.
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Kalifornia liberals (and liberals in general) are insanely brainwashed imbeciles, who LOVE government intrusion into every nook and cranny of your life. Constitution be damned.

The only freedoms they seem to guard and cherish, is the freedom to sodomize each other, do drugs, and kill babies.
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P.S. - By the way, these idiots aren't REAL "liberals", as in the Thomas Jefferson sense of the word, anymore than people like George Bush are real conservatives.

These people calling themselves "liberals" and "progressives" are actually communists, fascists, and authoritarians, with a hatred of REAL Americans, and America.

Hope that clarifies it for you.
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Thanks OP!

I understand that, but what I'm intrigued, is how they have the power to change the good laws into different states and bring in their liberal demented ways? Are they extremely wealthy, I they many, are they involved into politics and into activism, while the good fellows haven't time for that, and because of that, the imported liberals are distorting the legal framework. I THINK KNOWING WHAT MECHANISM IT'S USED, IS THE UTMOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.
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Pretty simple. They complain and lobby for the same garbage they fled from. They are "politically active", running for mayor, city council or county commissioner and get on planning boards and the like.

A lot of them are retired fedguv or stateguv or localguv employees who naturally support trough feeding and don't want it to end. And they can afford to be "compassionate" because their gubmint pensions are so good.

Most decent people regard politics as to low and ugly to be involved with. They just want to live their lives. The liberals want to impose their beliefs on other people at the point of a gun. So what happens is a few libmaggots get in power, more get in power, they hire other libmaggots in local gubmint and pretty soon it's an infestation.
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Thanks for clarification!

So, they are a group like a mafia, probable they have connections and old buddies in Washington and as well other connections and because they are at the pension time have time to be "political active".

Myself I know a similar group of people who are less than 1% but over represented in the domains that matters: banking, mass-media, politics, etc.

They know what is important while the rest of us we are working practically for them...
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Utah has great gun laws, easy CC permits with the best reciprocity in the country, by far.

Good weather

The best outdoors.

Beats the hell out of Arizona - better economy and overall a red state.
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Hi... Yes, I've been checking it out a lot lately.

I have a Ham radio buddy that lives in Cedar City. He has moved to many a place, including the big island in Hawaii, but he always ends up coming back home to Utah.

Utah also ranks number 1 with Joel Skousen, as the place to be if/when the SHTF.
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OP, i would simply focus on the foothills of the Rocky Mtns. Much has been written on the prognostication that the last remaining free people will be in the Rocky's and Appalachians.

I seriously doubt you'll find a place with the preferred weather that you are seeking unless it's on a near coastline.

you're going to have to live with some snow to get the cooler temps that you seek. It's how it is.

'Cedar' as the locals call it does get snow in the winter, but its not too bad. check out the area starting in flagstaff going north on 89 and/or west on 59. that's all great country.

up 89 into utah, from Kanab area north, is gorgeous country with 90% conservatives . 59 from fredonia going west is all good as well toward Hurricane. These areas are all moderate weather with only a small amount of snow in winter.
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Utah has great gun laws, easy CC permits with the best reciprocity in the country, by far.

Good weather

The best outdoors.

Beats the hell out of Arizona - better economy and overall a red state.
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Hi... Yes, I've been checking it out a lot lately.

I have a Ham radio buddy that lives in Cedar City. He has moved to many a place, including the big island in Hawaii, but he always ends up coming back home to Utah.

Utah also ranks number 1 with Joel Skousen, as the place to be if/when the SHTF.
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OP, i would simply focus on the foothills of the Rocky Mtns. Much has been written on the prognostication that the last remaining free people will be in the Rocky's and Appalachians.

I seriously doubt you'll find a place with the preferred weather that you are seeking unless it's on a near coastline.

you're going to have to live with some snow to get the cooler temps that you seek. It's how it is.

'Cedar' as the locals call it does get snow in the winter, but its not too bad. check out the area starting in flagstaff going north on 89 and/or west on 59. that's all great country.

up 89 into utah, from Kanab area north, is gorgeous country with 90% conservatives . 59 from fredonia going west is all good as well toward Hurricane. These areas are all moderate weather with only a small amount of snow in winter.
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to add:

excepting the res. navajo/hopi. you don't want to live there.
I don't say that because i'm prejudice, I have close friends that are navajo.
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Sounds like you've narrowed it down pretty well, OP.

The entire east coast is out for the heat and humidity in the summer alone. Plus the South and gulf coast as well for the same reason.

The west coast is full of crazies as you've already observed.

Most of the midwest would bring too much snow for you in the winter.

Arizona and New Mexico might have some places that would work.

There aren't many places in the US with a climate like Oregon.

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You got that right. Well, at least western Oregon, at least. Eastern Oregon is hot as hell in the summer, and bitter cold in the winter. But coastal Oregon is perfect, at least as far as I am concerned, because I don't mind lot's of rain.

If this state ever returns to sanity, like, say, after a freakin civil war, then I will come right back here!

But as long as this state is run by communists and Kalifonia transplants who soiled their OWN nest, and then moved up to destroy this state too, I'll look for somewhere else to live.

If it weren't for the over-the-top cold and expense, I'd move to Alaska!
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My wife moved to be with me in Alabama from Corvallis. She hated where we were for 5 years in mid-south Alabama, but we recently moved to the northwest corner of Florence. She absolutely loves it and says it's the closest place in Alabama to Corvallis. The real estate is dirt cheap from what I'm used to as well. The weather is a good 10 degrees cooler from the rest of the state with about a third of the humidity as well.
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Hmmm... Not very keen on the south, other than visiting, but will look into the area you mentioned.

Thanks!
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10 degrees cooler than the rest of Alabama is still about 30 degrees hotter than what the OP is used to in Oregon.
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Yep... I did the research last night.

Sweet Home Alabama?

No gonna happen... lol.
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Have you checked out Idaho? Near Cour de Lane (sp?)
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OP would not like the Idaho winters
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You are correct. I love certain things about Idaho, and would LOVE to live there in the spring, and fall. Could probably deal with the summers too, but the winters? I don't want to deal with bitter cold, ice, and snow.

I do actually prefer "cooler" weather to HOT weather. But I don't like extremes, especially after being so used to 70-75 degrees all summer long here on the Oregon coast, and 55 degrees in the winter.

It only snows once or twice every few years here, and it's usually just a dusting that is melted the next day. We've had 2 heavy snows here during the 22.5 years I've been here, and in both episodes, the snow was all gone withing a couple days.

One of the other things I'd like to relieve myself of, is thinking about that 9.5 mega quake that the NW is expecting, and is overdue.

The majority of my my net worth is in my home. If my home is destroyed, I am royally FOOOKED! I am currently looking into getting earthquake insurance. I don't spend all day worrying about stuff like that, but better safe than sorry, when it comes to a paid off home, when it's the majority of your net worth.
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Come to South Africa! You'll love it here. blobr

Bring all your hot chicks with! sideways
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LOL... You'll be lucky to escape there alive!
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Sounds like you've narrowed it down pretty well, OP.

The entire east coast is out for the heat and humidity in the summer alone. Plus the South and gulf coast as well for the same reason.

The west coast is full of crazies as you've already observed.

Most of the midwest would bring too much snow for you in the winter.

Arizona and New Mexico might have some places that would work.

There aren't many places in the US with a climate like Oregon.
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The central latitudes of New Mexico are reasonable both climate wise and politically. It's cheaper than Arizona, yet close enough that you can go back and forth at will.

The idiots in Santa Fe do their liberal thing, but that really doesn't matter when you're far enough away. Check out Catron County and perhaps Socorro if you want to be near a small city. Show Low in Az is great, but expensive.
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Show Low is the place I most have my eye on right now.

Median Home value is 237K

As opposed to, say, Flagstaff, which was the first place I was interested in. At 329K!

Thankfully, I live alone and will be able to cope with a fairly small home, as long as it has an acre or 2, for my ham radio antennas, etc...

I'd like to get a place outside of town, but within easy driving distance. Would love to have my own shooting range. I would love to find a situation where I can't even see my neighbors! lol...
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Go find the voting block of Trump voters, then check who runs the state, if they are liberal, find another place, upstate NY was Trump only NYC was Hillary. So, find a real republican government not a pretend one then look real close where the most votes for Trump was, these are people who had enough and your safe.
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Kalifornia liberals (and liberals in general) are insanely brainwashed imbeciles, who LOVE government intrusion into every nook and cranny of your life. Constitution be damned.

The only freedoms they seem to guard and cherish, is the freedom to sodomize each other, do drugs, and kill babies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75234929


P.S. - By the way, these idiots aren't REAL "liberals", as in the Thomas Jefferson sense of the word, anymore than people like George Bush are real conservatives.

These people calling themselves "liberals" and "progressives" are actually communists, fascists, and authoritarians, with a hatred of REAL Americans, and America.

Hope that clarifies it for you.
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Thanks OP!

I understand that, but what I'm intrigued, is how they have the power to change the good laws into different states and bring in their liberal demented ways? Are they extremely wealthy, I they many, are they involved into politics and into activism, while the good fellows haven't time for that, and because of that, the imported liberals are distorting the legal framework. I THINK KNOWING WHAT MECHANISM IT'S USED, IS THE UTMOST IMPORTANT QUESTION.
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Pretty simple. They complain and lobby for the same garbage they fled from. They are "politically active", running for mayor, city council or county commissioner and get on planning boards and the like.

A lot of them are retired fedguv or stateguv or localguv employees who naturally support trough feeding and don't want it to end. And they can afford to be "compassionate" because their gubmint pensions are so good.

Most decent people regard politics as to low and ugly to be involved with. They just want to live their lives. The liberals want to impose their beliefs on other people at the point of a gun. So what happens is a few libmaggots get in power, more get in power, they hire other libmaggots in local gubmint and pretty soon it's an infestation.
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What he ^^^ said!
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Grand Junction or Montrose.
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colorado is gone now.
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Actually, Colorado is America's little Saudi Arabia... lots of home owner's quietly getting $$$ from the fracking companies extracting oil and gas from their land.

Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, they don't want more people moving there....

Colorado is the safest place to be right now. You'll see....
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One of the primary nuke targets. At least on the front range side.
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Grand Junction or Montrose.
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colorado is gone now.
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OP here...

I lived there for the 1st 31 years of my life. Born and raised in the Denver area. Aurora, mostly.

I left there 22.5 years ago, and never looked back. The traffic, the pollution, the gangbangers, the crime, the gestapo police, etc... It was like living in L.A..

Been here on the Oregon coast now for 22.5 years. But it's time to relocate. This entire state is run by Portland and Salem, in the same way Kalifornia is run by Sacramento.

If I had my ultimate way, the state of Jefferson would reignite and become a reality, and NW Cal and SW Oregon would unite and become a new state.

If it ever does happen, I will move back here to the southern Oregon coast. It is beautiful here, but I'm sick of the pervasive Libscum insanity and Kalifornians changing everything for the worse.
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You lived in Colorado 22 years ago? It's changed a lot. For the better....for obvious reasons.

Aurora is a dump, of course you were unhappy. There are so many cool safe desirable places to live in Colorado. Sounds like you left after being chewed up and spit out.
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Hey, growing up in Colorado in the 60's and 70's was very nice, at least all the way through the mid to late 80's. But the front range is simply WAYYY to big and overpopulated. It's simply not the same place anymore.

Like I mentioned earlier, I still like central and western Colorado, but I don't want to deal with all the snow and ice and the frigid temperatures.

As far as the Denver area being "better", I've been back there 3 times visiting, over the last 22 years, and each time, I couldn't wait to get back here to the Oregon coast.

But hey, to each his own. Some people LIKE overcrowded mega cities and endless traffic..
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What about Montana, there are lots of places there where there are very few people.
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I love Montana, but I don't like the bitter cold winters.
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And now, even in this small town I live in, there are Illegals EVERYWHERE, to the point where it feels like I am living in El Salvador.
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have you considered El Salvador?

it appears there's a shortage of people there.

lol
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Gee, I wonder why... lol.

But I have considered Belize, Ecuador, Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, and a few other Ex Pat habitations. I'm just not ready financially or psychologically to move out of country. Especially since all these Ex Pat places always seem to have a very limited shelf life, before they are no longer a good deal.

And I was always limited to considering only the high elevation areas of those countries, due to my loathing of hot sticky weather. That's why if I move to Arizona or southern Utah, it's going to have to be at least 5,000 feet.

Not too high though, because then you have too much snow and ice.
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Sounds like you've narrowed it down pretty well, OP.

The entire east coast is out for the heat and humidity in the summer alone. Plus the South and gulf coast as well for the same reason.

The west coast is full of crazies as you've already observed.

Most of the midwest would bring too much snow for you in the winter.

Arizona and New Mexico might have some places that would work.

There aren't many places in the US with a climate like Oregon.
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I'm probably relocating to Vancouver, WA next year.
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My condolences.
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1 of the biggest concerns will be property taxes.as you begin to drive and search,check out the local school and community buildings. you will be the 1 paying for these afterall.as our population ages and the boomers start to die off,rural areas will see tax increases. this is happening in some areas already. rural means less jobs so the ppl who live there are retired or welfare.these areas are already having $$ problems since states play "kick the can down the road". as states don't have enough funds the only thing they do is raise minimum wage<which is a tax increase more than it is help> and send mandates to local gov to fund. these local govs are starting to realize they have a problem. all they can do is raise property taxes. that is not going to be enough.
2nd you will want water. clean stream fed lake and spring is best.a small creak that runs fast in spring and fall but dries up thru summer is not going to help.drilling 50 feet is not the answere if STHTF.
3rd and this is more important,protection from what you believe may happen.this is critical. you must think "what do i feel will happen" and consider many scenarios.if you prep for just economics and laws then you have only half prepared.both of those change constantly.they can become bad where ever you move..... then what? move again?? what about EQ's,weather problems,asteroids,nukes,yellowstone, etc?
i have chosen an area i feel is safe from most things.it is midway of several major metro's.this keeps us near family but far from large cities with a good buffer around us.with many small hunting communities around,the trouble has to get past lots before it would be a problem to us.if i could wave a magic wand and choose,i would opt for a mountain to my northeast to protect from space.throw in a big cave or 2 and we would be set.we continue looking because property taxes and prices keep going higher.also water is a top priority and i don't want to take something and regret it later.i have let places go because of that.i would settle for a shack or barn if i find the right land.
good luck with your search.
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Thanks for your input. I have no idea where you are located, and I can certainly understand why you don't want to name it here. But would you mind just sharing what state it is located in?

It sounds like you have a better-than-most SHTF home.
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Re: Need suggestions... Looking to relocate
Utah has great gun laws, easy CC permits with the best reciprocity in the country, by far.

Good weather

The best outdoors.

Beats the hell out of Arizona - better economy and overall a red state.
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Hi... Yes, I've been checking it out a lot lately.

I have a Ham radio buddy that lives in Cedar City. He has moved to many a place, including the big island in Hawaii, but he always ends up coming back home to Utah.

Utah also ranks number 1 with Joel Skousen, as the place to be if/when the SHTF.
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OP, i would simply focus on the foothills of the Rocky Mtns. Much has been written on the prognostication that the last remaining free people will be in the Rocky's and Appalachians.

I seriously doubt you'll find a place with the preferred weather that you are seeking unless it's on a near coastline.

you're going to have to live with some snow to get the cooler temps that you seek. It's how it is.

'Cedar' as the locals call it does get snow in the winter, but its not too bad. check out the area starting in flagstaff going north on 89 and/or west on 59. that's all great country.

up 89 into utah, from Kanab area north, is gorgeous country with 90% conservatives . 59 from fredonia going west is all good as well toward Hurricane. These areas are all moderate weather with only a small amount of snow in winter.
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You have been very helpful and I will focus some real attention on the areas you mention. And yes, I know that I will never find anything like the incredibly mild climate I live in here on the southern Oregon coast. I'm just trying to avoid extremes in both cold, and hot. Not to enthusiastic about driving in blizzards and on ice, either.

My logic is, 2 or 3 months of slightly uncomfortable 85 degree (90 tops) weather is tolerable, as I could always have at least one room in my home air conditioned. Even if it's 90 outside, I could go from my air conditioned room, to my air conditioned car, to the air conditioned store, or restaurant, etc... lol.

But, conversely, if it is 20 degrees outside, and there is a foot and a half of snow and ice, I may not be going ANYWHERE. And that can last for days. even weeks, depending on where you are located, and how well maintained the roads are.

I actually PREFER cooler weather, and I HATE hot weather. But I don't like extremes in either. Not a fan of frigid or heatwave.

But, like you said, I will have to do my best to compromise, in order to find a conservative area off the beaten path. Ideally, I want to live outside of a town of 10-15K minimum, to 50K maximum. I'd love to get a home on county land, for the low property taxes. and least restrictive land use laws.

The last thing I want is HOA's!
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Re: Need suggestions... Looking to relocate
Tennessee, my friend. I ditched out of broke ass IL a few years ago and wound up in the Nashville area. I own 5 acres of property in the foothills of the Appalachians. Property very cheap, NO building codes in this county (Fentress) other than a few rules about electric and septic. We're building an earthbag house there, go out there to shoot guns for the day, etc.

Yeah, it's warm Jun-Aug. The rest of the year, very decent and little to no snow. I've been a northerner my whole life (grew up in Montana) and have no issue dealing with the climate.

TN has no state income tax, very reasonable property taxes and yes, it is a SERIOUS 2nd amendment state. Think it over...





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