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Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk is a load of shite

 
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The Bris have to put a good face/spin on a military disaster...just like you give a medal to someone when he fucks up.
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You know the United States and United kingdom and Russia won wwii and the nazis lost and the japs too.
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To me, it would've been very interesting to see -- if there had been no Second World War OR if the Germans had won (or at least had come to some mutually beneficial settlement) -- who would've followed Hitler as the leader of Germany after Hitler died. The curiosity would be in seeing if Germany would continue on as successfully with a leader who lacked Hitler's passion, independence, and determination. In other words, was much of the German success due -- at least in part -- to the "cult of personality" of Hitler? I think Germany would've continued on successfully with the leader who followed Hitler, because look at the resilience of the German nation & people regardless of who led them throughout the 20th century -- WWI, WWII, Soviet occupation, communism, reunification, massive government-sponsored third world immigration... And still Germany dominates Europe economically and is the third largest economy in the world. Impressive, to say the least.
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To me, it would've been very interesting to see -- if there had been no Second World War OR if the Germans had won (or at least had come to some mutually beneficial settlement) -- who would've followed Hitler as the leader of Germany after Hitler died. The curiosity would be in seeing if Germany would continue on as successfully with a leader who lacked Hitler's passion, independence, and determination. In other words, was much of the German success due -- at least in part -- to the "cult of personality" of Hitler? I think Germany would've continued on successfully with the leader who followed Hitler, because look at the resilience of the German nation & people regardless of who led them throughout the 20th century -- WWI, WWII, Soviet occupation, communism, reunification, massive government-sponsored third world immigration... And still Germany dominates Europe economically and is the third largest economy in the world. Impressive, to say the least.
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He was insane and his regieme burned books.
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The Bris have to put a good face/spin on a military disaster...just like you give a medal to someone when he fucks up.
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You know the United States and United kingdom and Russia won wwii and the nazis lost and the japs too.
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The Soviet Union was responsible for victory in Europe, where 80% of the fighting occurred on the EASTERN front. That's not to downplay ANYone else's contribution, but to say the U.S., Britain, and/or any other western nation came close to what the Soviets did in Europe in WWII is fallacy.

U.S. in the Pacific, for sure.

Russians were fighting for their survival; their homeland. The U.S. and to a certain extent Britain, have had the "luxury" of fighting wars abroad, where "defeat" would mean -- basically -- retreat back to your country; not the utter destruction and devastation of your people, your culture, your homeland, as happened to Germany, and as the Russians knew would happen to them if they lost.

This has a lot to do with why the U.S. (and to a lesser extent Britain) has waged and continues to wage conventional warfare with less -- shall we say -- "concern" about the consequences than other nations. After all, if we lose (like in Vietnam), our "defeat" merely manifests into pulling our troops out and coming home. Not the utter destruction & devastation of our citizens, culture, and way of life.
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To me, it would've been very interesting to see -- if there had been no Second World War OR if the Germans had won (or at least had come to some mutually beneficial settlement) -- who would've followed Hitler as the leader of Germany after Hitler died. The curiosity would be in seeing if Germany would continue on as successfully with a leader who lacked Hitler's passion, independence, and determination. In other words, was much of the German success due -- at least in part -- to the "cult of personality" of Hitler? I think Germany would've continued on successfully with the leader who followed Hitler, because look at the resilience of the German nation & people regardless of who led them throughout the 20th century -- WWI, WWII, Soviet occupation, communism, reunification, massive government-sponsored third world immigration... And still Germany dominates Europe economically and is the third largest economy in the world. Impressive, to say the least.
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He was insane and his regieme burned books.
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Hahahahahahaha That's not even worth half a shekel. But for comedy value that's priceless! :)
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To me, it would've been very interesting to see -- if there had been no Second World War OR if the Germans had won (or at least had come to some mutually beneficial settlement) -- who would've followed Hitler as the leader of Germany after Hitler died. The curiosity would be in seeing if Germany would continue on as successfully with a leader who lacked Hitler's passion, independence, and determination. In other words, was much of the German success due -- at least in part -- to the "cult of personality" of Hitler? I think Germany would've continued on successfully with the leader who followed Hitler, because look at the resilience of the German nation & people regardless of who led them throughout the 20th century -- WWI, WWII, Soviet occupation, communism, reunification, massive government-sponsored third world immigration... And still Germany dominates Europe economically and is the third largest economy in the world. Impressive, to say the least.
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He was insane and his regieme burned books.
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Hahahahahahaha That's not even worth half a shekel. But for comedy value that's priceless! :)
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It isnt?
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Best thread of the year. Unassumingly enlightening.
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To me, it would've been very interesting to see -- if there had been no Second World War OR if the Germans had won (or at least had come to some mutually beneficial settlement) -- who would've followed Hitler as the leader of Germany after Hitler died. The curiosity would be in seeing if Germany would continue on as successfully with a leader who lacked Hitler's passion, independence, and determination. In other words, was much of the German success due -- at least in part -- to the "cult of personality" of Hitler? I think Germany would've continued on successfully with the leader who followed Hitler, because look at the resilience of the German nation & people regardless of who led them throughout the 20th century -- WWI, WWII, Soviet occupation, communism, reunification, massive government-sponsored third world immigration... And still Germany dominates Europe economically and is the third largest economy in the world. Impressive, to say the least.
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Germany was still a Constitutional Republic and the Chancellory would have taken back the power. The US wondered the same thing after George Washington passed from power, did they not?

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i havent seen dunkirk and im not that interested. but Inception was on last night and the acting in that was so bad and the script was so overly convoluted i dont know how those actors said that stuff without laughing.
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Inception. Biggest steaming pile of pretentiousness and dumbfuckery to flow from the the sewer that is Hollywood in the past 10 years. And that's saying something, as there is a steady flow from that cesspool that washes up on the shores of theaters weekly.
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i havent seen dunkirk and im not that interested. but Inception was on last night and the acting in that was so bad and the script was so overly convoluted i dont know how those actors said that stuff without laughing.
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Inception. Biggest steaming pile of pretentiousness and dumbfuckery to flow from the the sewer that is Hollywood in the past 10 years. And that's saying something, as there is a steady flow from that cesspool that washes up on the shores of theaters weekly.
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It was an interesting film.
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i havent seen dunkirk and im not that interested. but Inception was on last night and the acting in that was so bad and the script was so overly convoluted i dont know how those actors said that stuff without laughing.
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Inception. Biggest steaming pile of pretentiousness and dumbfuckery to flow from the the sewer that is Hollywood in the past 10 years. And that's saying something, as there is a steady flow from that cesspool that washes up on the shores of theaters weekly.
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[color=red]He makes it seem like the evacuation at Dunkirk was some sort of heroic event on the part of the Allies. Bullshit! The only reason the Allies escaped was because Uncle Adolf allowed them to escape. Hitler's infamous "Stop Order" is the reason the allies escaped. It wasn't due to any nail-biting, heroic action on the part of the Allies. Christopher Nolan is a bullshit artist. He should have made a movie about the real heroes of the Battle of France, the Wehrmacht - the greatest fighting force in the history of warfare:


MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!

How old are you OP ?
No really you unfortunately like a number of your American bretherin have no idea of what the British went through during two world wars, and that is not your fault, it is a failing of your history teachings at school, however to make comments such as that besmirches the death of every soldier who fought and that includes the Germans Japanese and Italians........


My French teacher at comprehensive school Monsieur Prost
was with the French 1st Army defending the west of Dunkirk, their outer defence were assisted by a Royal Artillery battery detachment of six guns ammunition and a section of Indian Chindits and donkeys transporting artillery rounds that had got separated from its main units.

My Uncle Ivor was with the Green Howard's defending the east of Dunkirk, the bravery of the French armed forces allowed the continuation of the evacuation of Dunkirk, out numbered 8 to 1 they continually counterattacked the German infantry slowing down its progress considerably.

The heroes were the French who threw everything at the vastly superior Germans, large numbers returned to continue their fight against Germany after evacuation to England.

Valuable time was gained from Hitler's (at the time) inexplicable 'halt order', which suspended the panzers' advance for 2-3 crucial days, whilst the German tank forces were replenished.It has since been revealed that Winston Churchill made it known that the British would throw their lot in with Germany if they were to allow the British Belgian and French armies reprieve, also the speed of the German advance had stretched to breaking point supply lines, plus the Royal Air Force was causing severe disruption with the Germans in France. Also Herman Goering wanted to prove his Luftwaffe to Hitler and he wanted to finish evrything with bombers, but they were badly mauled by the RAF. This gave the Allies the opportunity to set up strongpoints in key towns and villages such as Lille, La Bassée, St Venant, Festubert, La Paradis, Steenbecque, Hazebrouck, Cassel, Wormhout, Bergues, Ypres, Noordschote, Dixmuide, Veurne and Nieuwpoort. These strongpoints were manned by experienced troops of the British 2nd division and a variety of scratch units. For the most part, their orders were simple: 'Fight to the last man and the last round'. The heroic sacrifice of these rearguard units and of the French 1st Army at Lille, allowed the bulk of the BEF and two French divisions to escape up the rapidly-shrinking corridor to Dunkirk. Many of those men retreating up the corridor received the simple instruction:

'Every man for himself, make for Dunkirk'.


At places like La Bassée, the 1st Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders held out for two days, hurling back all German attempts to cross the canal. However, the cost was high; after one counter-attack, A Company had only six men left. On the morning of the 27th May, the defenders were finally overrun with the regiment being effectively wiped out. Only 79 members of the regiment made it back to England. That same morning at Festubert, the 2nd Dorsets were attacked by German panzers. However, clever use of the buildings in the town meant that they held out until nightfall before being ordered to retreat northwards to Estaires, some eight miles away. A fighting cross-country retreat to Estaires, which was being held by French troops, was successfully accomplished by day-break.



The 2nd Glosters and 4th Oxford and Bucks Light infantry turned the French town of Cassel into something resembling a fortress. They also had sufficient time to cleverly site and dig-in their anti-tank guns. This town, on a hill, had a commanding view of the Flanders plain and it was vital that it was held to buy time to establish defences around the Dunkirk beachhead itself. The town was surrounded and subjected to fierce and prolonged tank and infantry attack, but held out for three crucial days between the 27th and 29th May. Running low on food and ammunition, a breakout by the British troops was attempted on the night of the 29th May. However, few managed to evade the besieging German forces and the bulk of the force was captured and taken prisoner.



In the case of the defenders of the villages of Le Paradis (2nd Norfolks) and Wormhoudt (2nd Royal Warwicks), they had the misfortune to encounter SS troops of the SS Totenkopf and SS Liebstandarte. In each case, after surrendering, the survivors were shot by their captors, infuriated at the stiff resistance which they had encountered and their heavy losses.



On the 27th May, British and French Commanders met to establish a strategy for the defence of the Dunkirk beachhead itself. It was quickly agreed that the French would be responsible for the line west of Dunkirk and the British, everything east of the town. Referred to as the outer perimeter, it was 25miles long and approximately eight miles deep and it made the best use of the canal and waterways around Dunkirk to aid defence. In addition, low-lying areas such as Les Moeres on the eastern side of the perimeter were deliberately flooded to help impede the German advance. The French-held line ran from Mardyck Spycker Bergues. The British sector ran through the axis Bergues Bulscamp Furnes Nieuport. The troops (British and French) allocated to provide the final rearguard must have realised, that in many cases, they were forfeiting their own chances of escape so that the greater part of the Allied armies could be saved. However, contemporary accounts record that the men involved accepted their fate stoically as they grimly set about establishing their defensive positions. As retreating units came into the perimeter, they were instructed to destroy vehicles and heavy equipment and in many cases, they were relieved of ammunition and automatic weapons by the rearguard soldiers to bolster the defender's armoury.



British units defending the perimeter included, among others, elements of the following regiments: the Loyals, Leicesters, Sherwood Foresters, Warwickshires, East Lancashires, Borders, Coldstream Guards, Duke of Wellington's, Green Howards, Durham Light Infantry, King's Own Scottish Borderers, Royal Ulster Rifles, Grenadier Guards, Berkshires, Suffolks, Bedfordshire and Herts, Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry, East Surreys, Royal Fusiliers, South Lancashires and the Black Watch. From the 29th May, these units fiercely resisted strong attacks from German artillery and the several infantry divisions which had been assembled to take Dunkirk. Many of the books written over the past 70 years tend to dwell on two or three individual acts of heroism on the 'canal line' and the mens' respective units. It is however, perhaps, more fitting to remember the rearguard as a whole. The fact that each group of defenders was entirely dependent upon the units to its left and right holding their ground and that a major breakthrough at any point of the line would have brought the whole evacuation operation to a rapid halt. It was this team-work, resolve and self-sacrifice which was the real story of Dunkirk.



During the night of the 1st-2nd June, the survivors of the rearguard were withdrawn to an inner perimeter, utilising the Canal des Moeres and the Canal des Chats as its principal defence lines to the south and east. It was these defences which were taken over by elements of the French 8th Zouaves, 137th and 150th Infantry Regiments and the 92nd GRDI. This allowed the bulk of the British rearguard to be successfully evacuated on the night of the 2nd and 3rd of June.
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Ahahahaha

Frenchcucks are weak and are well known all over the world to quit instead of sacrifice when it's time to buy time doing something crazy.

French = fags

Always making useless plans, obeying the hierarchy, never innovating, relying on the material and shooting steroids to appear somehow masculine.

They are slow, dumb and ugly.

And they are partly arab.

The germans used to tell the french were subhumans when they occupied France.

Ahahahahaha

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He makes it seem like the evacuation at Dunkirk was some sort of heroic event on the part of the Allies. Bullshit! The only reason the Allies escaped was because Uncle Adolf allowed them to escape. Hitler's infamous "Stop Order" is the reason the allies escaped. It wasn't due to any nail-biting, heroic action on the part of the Allies. Christopher Nolan is a bullshit artist. He should have made a movie about the real heroes of the Battle of France, the Wehrmacht - the greatest fighting force in the history of warfare:


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Dunkirk is an amazing story, the British people stepped up big time to help their countrymen. Sorry you didn't like it, maybe try something easier on your brain next time. I think there is a new lego movie soon, try that.
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He makes it seem like the evacuation at Dunkirk was some sort of heroic event on the part of the Allies. Bullshit! The only reason the Allies escaped was because Uncle Adolf allowed them to escape. Hitler's infamous "Stop Order" is the reason the allies escaped. It wasn't due to any nail-biting, heroic action on the part of the Allies. Christopher Nolan is a bullshit artist. He should have made a movie about the real heroes of the Battle of France, the Wehrmacht - the greatest fighting force in the history of warfare:


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Dunkirk is an amazing story, the British people stepped up big time to help their countrymen. Sorry you didn't like it, maybe try something easier on your brain next time. I think there is a new lego movie soon, try that.
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The British were only allowed to save their troops due to the good graces of Hitler's stop order. Otherwise it would've been a turkey shoot.
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the germans let 300 thousand brits escape at dunkirk. as a thank you the brits firebombed 300 thousand german civillians to death in dresden.

but guys, stop worrying about it now, you won, now we live in a perfect world like you so bravely fought for... pff
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Well said Abdul!


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I agree with Hitler's stop order. Who could've predicted that Churchill would be such a ruthless, communist-living, Zionist-supporting, underhanded, drunk bastard?
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Gotta love Churchill talking about "German aggression" when the first part of Churchill's life was killing blacks in Africa on behalf of Brirish colonialism/ imperialism.
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Gotta love Churchill talking about "German aggression" when the first part of Churchill's life was killing blacks in Africa on behalf of Brirish colonialism/ imperialism.
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When Hitler stopped the annihilation of British troops at Dunkirk he should have been reminded about the British naval blockade of Deutschland which collapsed the German people thus forced the signing of the Treaty of Versailles....then he could have had peace....
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Terrible idea for a movie and it will flop. Who glamorizes retreat??
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When Hitler stopped the annihilation of British troops at Dunkirk he should have been reminded about the British naval blockade of Deutschland which collapsed the German people thus forced the signing of the Treaty of Versailles....then he could have had peace....
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That's a very good point.

Anytime (most times, rather) the lives of the military pawns of corrupt, power-hungry politicians' armies can be spared, it's a good thing. I think Hitler made the decision he did mainly for geopolitical considerations (neutrality with Britain) down the road, but also partly on humanitarian grounds. Hitler was a veteran of WWI who knew the horrors of war and saw firsthand how the flower of western civilization was consumed without regard to age, nationality, intelligence, etc. in the brutal meat grinder of war.
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Terrible idea for a movie and it will flop. Who glamorizes retreat??
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The French? Lol ;)
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i havent seen dunkirk and im not that interested. but Inception was on last night and the acting in that was so bad and the script was so overly convoluted i dont know how those actors said that stuff without laughing.
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Yeah Nolan makes shitty movies.

Hollywood is full of fags anyway..

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The Krauts paused because they were stunned by their own great success. It might have been prudent, but as history would have it, it now appears to have been a significant mistake.

Bottom line; the French and British folded like a wet dishrag, and the Germans were not fully prepared to exploit that outcome.
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The Krauts paused because they were stunned by their own great success. It might have been prudent, but as history would have it, it now appears to have been a significant mistake.

Bottom line; the French and British folded like a wet dishrag, and the Germans were not fully prepared to exploit that outcome.
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They were exhausted (of winning) because amphetamines can only push you 105% for so long...

They would have never massacred them anyway.. so moot point..


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I'm a fan of France despite your posts.
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I'm a fan of France despite your posts.
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Good.

I'll always love the cousins from the Americas despite millions and millions of mindless consumeristic circumcized pigs destroying Europe and specificaly my country.

Blue White and Red.


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I'm a fan of France despite your posts.
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Good.

I'll always love the cousins from the Americas despite millions and millions of mindless consumeristic circumcized pigs destroying Europe and specificaly my country.

Blue White and Red.


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Blue for your balls.

White for your flag of surrender.

Red for the blood shed on your streets from your lax immigration policies.


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