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Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious

 
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If any God dissent, and judge too great
The sacred honours of the heav'nly seat,
Ev'n he shall own his deeds deserve the sky,
Ev'n he reluctant, shall at length comply.
Th' assembled Pow'rs assent. No frown 'till now
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"Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth,..." -Plato 360 BC.

"Then he secretly prayed to Mercury, whom the teaching of the theologians stated to be the swift intelligence of the universe, arousing the activity of men's minds;.." A. Marcellinus, 4th century ce.

"Great minds never love to linger long in the body: they are eager to burst its bonds and escape from it, they chafe at the narrowness of their prison, having been wont to wander through space, and from aloft in the upper air to look down with contempt upon human affairs."-Seneca
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NO BODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING we dont know what anything is
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They believe a lot of things, but they do not want to believe anything that tells them they are wrong. Actually the earth is commanded to do things just as all the universe is the same. All has a purposed and it was known for hundreds of thousands of years.

They think, and they have back tracked on the other things they believe. Why don't they just say, we are studying the Universe to see if it is conscious, by the way the Universe is not God.
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So merely entertaining the notion that some apex intelligence might just have been the catalyst behind this physical world is an absurd notion but conjecturing that matter and energy posess consciousness is "scientific?"

What a world we live in.
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Hmm? Well among other things India has been telling us that for at least 2500 years, not to mention all of the other worldy religions taking that concept and turning it into whatever god figure they uphold.
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That sounds way better than simulation theory.

Thanks for sharing.
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because simulation theory is fucking stupid
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It seems the same to me. Your thoughts and dreams are simulations inside your head. If the galaxies are neuron clusters then we are thoughts and dreams inside it's head. Simulations.
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The universe could be The Great Spirit. Awesome!
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That would be God, yes.
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Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
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That would be God, yes.
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Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
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They'll never admit God exists. It would break the mental bondage and chains of the populace and bring their system burning to the ground.
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If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
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While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else. They don't have words, they're just more than we think they are at first glance.

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The universe is created, but they want you to believe it is the creator
As such pagan priests calling themselves scientists are just giving you their known religion under the guise of science
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If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else. They don't have words, they're just more than we think they are at first glance.

stoned
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My psychonautic adventures led me to my spiritual awakening as well.

Everything is vibration. God may as well have sung us into creation.

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They don't know shit, they want funding. Fuck them!
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Silly humans...
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a pair of 'scientists' don't represent the general scientific community
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If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else. They don't have words, they're just more than we think they are at first glance.

stoned
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


My psychonautic adventures led me to my spiritual awakening as well.

Everything is vibration. God may as well have sung us into creation.

grinning
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


Some believe that the tree that Adam and Eve ate from was not just a tree of knowledge. It was what gave us sentience. All things live, as if on a vibrational plane of existence. What separates us from animals, or rocks for that matter, is our sentience.
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but the earth isn't sentient right ? the earth isn't alive right ?
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Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
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No, indeed, It thinks in WORLDS.
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but the earth isn't sentient right ? the earth isn't alive right ?
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Of course it is. The Earth is a thought of God. Just as we are. And all of God's thoughts are sentient.
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The universe could be The Great Spirit. Awesome!
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No is not is made to look like all those ideas you have,you just paid 25 cents for the ride you are on,it is fast and will end soon,just add another quarter and start over.
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That would be God, yes.
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The universe is the mind of GOD.
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What gets me is the "Big Bang", and that scientists actually thought it explained anything.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Simple Newtonian physics, 17th-century basics.

So what was the opposite of the Big Bang? What energy or force caused this massive expansion of the known universe?

They often illustrate it as a balloon inflating. Well, who is blowing the air into the balloon?!

And the fact we still don't really understand gravity (only physical force without a counter-balancing reaction), it's still just a "theory."

21st century science will again be humbled. You can't take spiritual, benevolent and subjective out of the "equation". It is intrinsicaly part of the fractal mathematics.
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


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You bet. I believe not only is the Creation conscious but the disasters through the ages, aka "The Destroyer" passing through and giving us a dramatic crap your pants sky show or the type that drives us back to an amoeba like state and a complete do over ensues are controlled by us.

I believe those bodies that have been recorded through the ages on cave walls, ancient writings and Mars' scared surface known as Planet-x, Nibiru and The Destroyer or Wormwood are steered by us. What? Yep our entire demeanor towards each other and our situation I believe steer the cataclysmic Heavenly Bodies towards us or away from us. Why?

If you ascribe to "Evolution" or "Evolution" being contained in this "Creation" then wouldn't Nature give us a REGULATING GOVERNOR we control by how we behave? Nice and very very just....

Kinda like the dot but over millennia. [link to gcpdot.com]

Scientists would warn you of the above, I think of the stories of Atlantis.

If you ascribe to "Creation" without "Evolution" then wouldn't God give us a REGULATING GOVERNOR we control by how we behave? Nice and very very just....

Prophets would warn us of the above, I think of Noah and the great flood and later Jesus Christ's warnings to us about us.

Earthlings being nice and loving towards each other and not destroying each other or repressing each other or abusing the planet are operating as "Evolved" or "Created". This steers the offending body away from us in a show of wonderful display and amazement, plus a little oops is that for us?

Earthlings being Deceitful, Greedy, Warmongering, Satan/Lucifer worshiping, destroying each other,repressing each other, abusing the planet are not operating as "Evolved" or "Created". This behavior steers the offending body towards us in a show of pants soiling freight to utter and complete destruction with NO DOUBT it was meant for us.

The above principle we as humans discovered as a similar principle to regulate engine speed, labeled "The Fly Ball Governor" which is used to regulate the speed of steam engines and the like. I think a similar principle regulates life here on earth meaning it also regulates us, the bodies coming towards us are "Fly Ball Governor" aka "The Destroyer", Nibiru et al.. This is my opinion and we will know as we experience weirder weather, volcano increases, earthquake increases and most importantly an increase in "Fireballs". God knows and we all know the shape we and the planet are in.

HOW A FLYBALL GOVERNOR WORKS

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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.
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Erm... we know it is... because we are.
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


You bet. I believe not only is the Creation conscious but the disasters through the ages, aka "The Destroyer" passing through and giving us a dramatic crap your pants sky show or the type that drives us back to an amoeba like state and a complete do over ensues are controlled by us.

I believe those bodies that have been recorded through the ages on cave walls, ancient writings and Mars' scared surface known as Planet-x, Nibiru and The Destroyer or Wormwood are steered by us. What? Yep our entire demeanor towards each other and our situation I believe steer the cataclysmic Heavenly Bodies towards us or away from us. Why?

If you ascribe to "Evolution" or "Evolution" being contained in this "Creation" then wouldn't Nature give us a REGULATING GOVERNOR we control by how we behave? Nice and very very just....

Kinda like the dot but over millennia. [link to gcpdot.com]

Scientists would warn you of the above, I think of the stories of Atlantis.

If you ascribe to "Creation" without "Evolution" then wouldn't God give us a REGULATING GOVERNOR we control by how we behave? Nice and very very just....

Prophets would warn us of the above, I think of Noah and the great flood and later Jesus Christ's warnings to us about us.

Earthlings being nice and loving towards each other and not destroying each other or repressing each other or abusing the planet are operating as "Evolved" or "Created". This steers the offending body away from us in a show of wonderful display and amazement, plus a little oops is that for us?

Earthlings being Deceitful, Greedy, Warmongering, Satan/Lucifer worshiping, destroying each other,repressing each other, abusing the planet are not operating as "Evolved" or "Created". This behavior steers the offending body towards us in a show of pants soiling freight to utter and complete destruction with NO DOUBT it was meant for us.

The above principle we as humans discovered as a similar principle to regulate engine speed, labeled "The Fly Ball Governor" which is used to regulate the speed of steam engines and the like. I think a similar principle regulates life here on earth meaning it also regulates us, the bodies coming towards us are "Fly Ball Governor" aka "The Destroyer", Nibiru et al.. This is my opinion and we will know as we experience weirder weather, volcano increases, earthquake increases and most importantly an increase in "Fireballs". God knows and we all know the shape we and the planet are in.

HOW A FLYBALL GOVERNOR WORKS

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Science is catching up to religion..

Nothing to see here..
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According to Buddha, only sentient beings have all Six Elements (Earth, Water, Wind, Fire, Space, and Consciousness); whereas inanimate objects do not have all six elements.
 Quoting: Asuralikeproduction


In other words, any consciousness apparently observed in inanimate objects is actually your own consciousness, and not the consciousness of the observed inanimate object (because again, inanimate objects do not have consciousness).
 Quoting: Asuralikeproduction


Buddhism distinguishes Consciousness differently than western philosophy.. Consciousness in buddhism is a temporary element that comes and goes, based on sensory experience - not the real you, something that the real you experiences temporarily... and not what we in the west usually consider "consciousness", the whole of our being. So don't mistake what the buddha said when comparing it to what these scientists are saying, as they are not talking about the same "consciousness".

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the invisible consciousness / intelligence is call GOD ----- duh, or did these crackpot scientists think that belief in God entailed the literal acceptance of the ceiling of the Sistine chapel


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