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Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious

 
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While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else.

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You're sounding like a Scientologist.
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I knew this as a little child...it is obvious and clear.
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complex plasmas may naturally self organise themselves into stable interacting helical structures that exhibit features normally attribued to organic living matter - 2006
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You people lack IQ.

You believe shit like this - yet cannot understand when somebody says Earth is flat, eventhough you SEE a flat horizon, the horizon is flat when looking out a plane window, and you have never felt or seen the Earth spin.


What a farce.
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This is not new to philosophers. Marcus Aurelius in the 2nd century says:

"Constantly regard the universe as one living being, having one substance and one soul; and observe how all things have reference to one perception, the perception of this one living being; and how all things act with one movement; and how all things are the cooperating causes of all things which exist; observe too the continuous spinning of the thread and the contexture of the web."
"I am all that has been, and is, and shall be, and my robe no mortal has yet uncovered." -Isis/Athena

"Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth,..." -Plato 360 BC.

"Then he secretly prayed to Mercury, whom the teaching of the theologians stated to be the swift intelligence of the universe, arousing the activity of men's minds;.." A. Marcellinus, 4th century ce.

"Great minds never love to linger long in the body: they are eager to burst its bonds and escape from it, they chafe at the narrowness of their prison, having been wont to wander through space, and from aloft in the upper air to look down with contempt upon human affairs."-Seneca
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Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
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While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else.

 Quoting: ~ hannah~


You're sounding like a Scientologist.
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No, just seeing and experiencing reality.

Everything is spinning. Every single anything spins.
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The universe is created, but they want you to believe it is the creator
As such pagan priests calling themselves scientists are just giving you their known religion under the guise of science
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For all the insistence that the universe is separate from God, there is a fatal flaw in the argument:

If God was all that existed and then he created the universe, then by logical necessity, he created it out of himself because there was nothing else to use.
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The original immaculate conception ?
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The universe is not conscious.
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That would be God, yes.
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If that's god, then guess what, he doesn't even know you exist. Just like you don't know about every cell or virus or bacteria in your body. Nor can you speak with any of the above mentioned.

So if you are correct, then you just proved that the bible and all the BS in it, are in fact BS made up by some guy as a way to control the people around him.
"let me make ridiculous statements, and tell them god told me, this should be fun".
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That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


If that's god, then guess what, he doesn't even know you exist. Just like you don't know about every cell or virus or bacteria in your body. Nor can you speak with any of the above mentioned.

So if you are correct, then you just proved that the bible and all the BS in it, are in fact BS made up by some guy as a way to control the people around him.
"let me make ridiculous statements, and tell them god told me, this should be fun".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219208


God says He knows how many hairs are on your head, do you? Oh wise one?
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Of course the universe of conscious.

Our own consciousness is evident.
All things are ONE and inclusive in the Uni/Multiverse which is the Godhead. Thus the universe is conscious, at the very least via our own consciousness - but I'd imagine at so many more levels including the quantum.

Quite simple.
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I knew this as a little child...it is obvious and clear.
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No shite Sherlock!
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Of course the universe of conscious.

Our own consciousness is evident.
All things are ONE and inclusive in the Uni/Multiverse which is the Godhead. Thus the universe is conscious, at the very least via our own consciousness - but I'd imagine at so many more levels including the quantum.

Quite simple.
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Most 'human' don't have the (consciousness) sense they were born with due to indoctrination in beast system materialistic money worship
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The universe now believes that scientists are unconscious.
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The universe now believes that scientists are unconscious.
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"Scientists". Is that what they're calling themselves nowadays?

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Just to reiterate in case any of you missed the truth inside this thread!

That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


The bible calls the earth the creature! God made it all!
 Quoting: bigD111


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


hf
 Quoting: curry nosher


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Was just thinking that.
 Quoting: pmb1


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71292324


A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Jesus said that if men would not praise Him, even the rocks would cry out in praise of Him. So, yes, matter has some sort of response to its creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


What a Wonderful Maker :)
 Quoting: JypsieWind


I enjoy when atheist scientists/physicists (not saying necessarily that these guys are) end up with results that prove God exists. Eventually they will all hit that wall where their self induced bullshit falls apart.
 Quoting: Jizzer


Science is great and all - but all they have is fancy tools to measure and observe the observable universal forces and energy.

They don't have answers for the unseen. Science is and has been missing the spiritual aspect of our reality. At least some scientists are coming around and saying what we already knew.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing





The scientists are reaching the summit of their mountain and they are finding an ancient sitting at the top.
 Quoting: A Friend


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75237663


Of course the universe is conscious.

My Creator told me Himself, that HE "inhabits His creation".

If you can wrap your mind around that statement, then you will realize that "HE" is in EVERYTHING.

That pretty much makes US connected with EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.

.....and you thought you were "special"....


My Creator is "pure consciousness.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!


That sounds way better than simulation theory.

Thanks for sharing.
 Quoting: Undestroyer


So merely entertaining the notion that some apex intelligence might just have been the catalyst behind this physical world is an absurd notion but conjecturing that matter and energy posess consciousness is "scientific?"

What a world we live in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50918780


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
 Quoting: Daggo


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
 Quoting: Daggo


They'll never admit God exists. It would break the mental bondage and chains of the populace and bring their system burning to the ground.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else. They don't have words, they're just more than we think they are at first glance.

stoned
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


My psychonautic adventures led me to my spiritual awakening as well.

Everything is vibration. God may as well have sung us into creation.

grinning
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


but the earth isn't sentient right ? the earth isn't alive right ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19439566


Of course it is. The Earth is a thought of God. Just as we are. And all of God's thoughts are sentient.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43081521


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795






The universe is the mind of GOD.
 Quoting: Perpetual Active Shooter Drill


Science is catching up to religion..

Nothing to see here..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75238265


I was thinking about this article omw to Church this morning.

Check out our Bible reading today:

Romans 8:19-23

"... for the whole creation is waiting with eagerness for the children of God to be revealed.

It was not for it's own purposes that creation had frustration imposed upon it, but for the purposes of him who imposed it,

with the intention that the whole creation itself might be freed of its slavery to decay and brought into the same glorious freedom as the children of God."




5a
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


All that is created has consciousness. The universe is not a void, it is a sea of consciousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74837233


If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


Who says trees, houses, and coffee cups don't have language? Everything created has different levels of consciousness. Even a nail or a rock has consciousness. How do we know they don't talk to each other? We humans are so arrogant it's pitiful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74837233


It's not a new concept. It's called God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75223315


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Amen.
The 'scientists' are getting there...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75188771


The universe is created, but they want you to believe it is the creator
As such pagan priests calling themselves scientists are just giving you their known religion under the guise of science
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69160624



For all the insistence that the universe is separate from God, there is a fatal flaw in the argument:

If God was all that existed and then he created the universe, then by logical necessity, he created it out of himself because there was nothing else to use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72515246


I knew this as a little child...it is obvious and clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34314448


Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75188771


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


If that's god, then guess what, he doesn't even know you exist. Just like you don't know about every cell or virus or bacteria in your body. Nor can you speak with any of the above mentioned.

So if you are correct, then you just proved that the bible and all the BS in it, are in fact BS made up by some guy as a way to control the people around him.
"let me make ridiculous statements, and tell them god told me, this should be fun".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219208


God says He knows how many hairs are on your head, do you? Oh wise one?
 Quoting: bigD111


God is All!

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Just to reiterate in case any of you missed the truth inside this thread!

That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


The bible calls the earth the creature! God made it all!
 Quoting: bigD111


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


hf
 Quoting: curry nosher


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Was just thinking that.
 Quoting: pmb1


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71292324


A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Jesus said that if men would not praise Him, even the rocks would cry out in praise of Him. So, yes, matter has some sort of response to its creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67511492


What a Wonderful Maker :)
 Quoting: JypsieWind


I enjoy when atheist scientists/physicists (not saying necessarily that these guys are) end up with results that prove God exists. Eventually they will all hit that wall where their self induced bullshit falls apart.
 Quoting: Jizzer


Science is great and all - but all they have is fancy tools to measure and observe the observable universal forces and energy.

They don't have answers for the unseen. Science is and has been missing the spiritual aspect of our reality. At least some scientists are coming around and saying what we already knew.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing





The scientists are reaching the summit of their mountain and they are finding an ancient sitting at the top.
 Quoting: A Friend


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75237663


Of course the universe is conscious.

My Creator told me Himself, that HE "inhabits His creation".

If you can wrap your mind around that statement, then you will realize that "HE" is in EVERYTHING.

That pretty much makes US connected with EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.

.....and you thought you were "special"....


My Creator is "pure consciousness.

ohyeah
 Quoting: Yes I Did !!


That sounds way better than simulation theory.

Thanks for sharing.
 Quoting: Undestroyer


So merely entertaining the notion that some apex intelligence might just have been the catalyst behind this physical world is an absurd notion but conjecturing that matter and energy posess consciousness is "scientific?"

What a world we live in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50918780


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
 Quoting: Daggo


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Yep they'll finally get to that conclusion some year, something we normal people have known thousands of years.
 Quoting: Daggo


They'll never admit God exists. It would break the mental bondage and chains of the populace and bring their system burning to the ground.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


While on an acid trip in the early 70s, I had this realization while looking at and end table. It was vibrating with life like everything else. They don't have words, they're just more than we think they are at first glance.

stoned
 Quoting: ~ hannah~


My psychonautic adventures led me to my spiritual awakening as well.

Everything is vibration. God may as well have sung us into creation.

grinning
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


but the earth isn't sentient right ? the earth isn't alive right ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19439566


Of course it is. The Earth is a thought of God. Just as we are. And all of God's thoughts are sentient.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43081521


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795






The universe is the mind of GOD.
 Quoting: Perpetual Active Shooter Drill


Science is catching up to religion..

Nothing to see here..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75238265


I was thinking about this article omw to Church this morning.

Check out our Bible reading today:

Romans 8:19-23

"... for the whole creation is waiting with eagerness for the children of God to be revealed.

It was not for it's own purposes that creation had frustration imposed upon it, but for the purposes of him who imposed it,

with the intention that the whole creation itself might be freed of its slavery to decay and brought into the same glorious freedom as the children of God."




5a
 Quoting: Bounced


A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


All that is created has consciousness. The universe is not a void, it is a sea of consciousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74837233


If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


Who says trees, houses, and coffee cups don't have language? Everything created has different levels of consciousness. Even a nail or a rock has consciousness. How do we know they don't talk to each other? We humans are so arrogant it's pitiful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74837233


It's not a new concept. It's called God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75223315


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


Amen.
The 'scientists' are getting there...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75188771


The universe is created, but they want you to believe it is the creator
As such pagan priests calling themselves scientists are just giving you their known religion under the guise of science
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69160624



For all the insistence that the universe is separate from God, there is a fatal flaw in the argument:

If God was all that existed and then he created the universe, then by logical necessity, he created it out of himself because there was nothing else to use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72515246


I knew this as a little child...it is obvious and clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34314448


Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75188771


That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


If that's god, then guess what, he doesn't even know you exist. Just like you don't know about every cell or virus or bacteria in your body. Nor can you speak with any of the above mentioned.

So if you are correct, then you just proved that the bible and all the BS in it, are in fact BS made up by some guy as a way to control the people around him.
"let me make ridiculous statements, and tell them god told me, this should be fun".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75219208


God says He knows how many hairs are on your head, do you? Oh wise one?
 Quoting: bigD111


God is All!

Syn
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