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Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious

 
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If tiny humans are conscious, why can't a bigger universe be conscious as well?
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Depends if you're talking duelism or monism.
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02

Jesus said that if men would not praise Him, even the rocks would cry out in praise of Him. So, yes, matter has some sort of response to its creator.
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Panpsychism is one of the oldest philosophical theories, and has been ascribed to philosophers like Thales, Parmenides, Plato, Averroes, Spinoza, Leibniz and William James. Panpsychism can also be seen in ancient philosophies such as Stoicism, Taoism, Vedanta and Mahayana Buddhism.
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Conscious-Intelligence, yes. Conscious-Intelligence that
pervades the entire Universe and is imbued in all stuff of the Universe. (which is the reason why it it all one Big Computer)

and, yes, this too, like everything else, is just more Mere Phenomenoa.

there is no need to call it "God", or any of that
kind of sentimental stuff.

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The bible calls the earth the creature! God made it all!
 Quoting: bigD111


And Jesus called Satan, the God of this world.

Satan even offered jesus rule over the whole world when he tempted him in the wilderness.
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Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


It thinks in frequency and vibration
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


Light and sound.
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Of course it is.
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That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


What if God was All of Us? Yes.

But this is not a new idea.
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According to Buddha, only sentient beings have all Six Elements (Earth, Water, Wind, Fire, Space, and Consciousness); whereas inanimate objects do not have all six elements.
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That would be God, yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72584795


What if God was All of Us? Yes.

But this is not a new idea.
 Quoting: Lady Truth


yes, that's why why i think the Scientists have the
best attitude towards it all. their "modality of mind"
is the best we have discovered thusfar.

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That would be God, yes.
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hf
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All living things are the tastebuds of consciousness.
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


A NEW concept???

NEW???

ancient man thought this long long ago

it aint new
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The Universe is just part of a MultiVerse which lies beyond our comprehension and totally outside any frame of reference humans and Quantum Physicists (pretend to) have. Any aparent consciousness is just interactions.

Richard Feynman described observation at the Quantum level like someone working out the game of chess while only being able to observe one small section of the board; watching pieces popping in and out of view (existence) moving in certain odd patterns.

Most Scientists are full of ego and often full of bullshit proven by the number who purport to be climate experts when their field of expertise has nothing to do with the subject. All too many suffer from the disease of narrow-minded group think.
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According to Buddha, only sentient beings have all Six Elements (Earth, Water, Wind, Fire, Space, and Consciousness); whereas inanimate objects do not have all six elements.
 Quoting: Asuralikeproduction


In other words, any consciousness apparently observed in inanimate objects is actually your own consciousness, and not the consciousness of the observed inanimate object (because again, inanimate objects do not have consciousness).

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Take some DMT

It is clearly conscious.
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What a Wonderful Maker :)
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I enjoy when atheist scientists/physicists (not saying necessarily that these guys are) end up with results that prove God exists. Eventually they will all hit that wall where their self induced bullshit falls apart.
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Re: Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious
Well ...

Friggin ..

DUH1
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Re: Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious
Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


It thinks in frequency and vibration
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


Light and sound.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75231814


Symbols and archetypes.

The language of dreams.
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Re: Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious
if it is, then it could be aware of what is "outside"

humans could be like the rest of the universe
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told you, like we are: aware of what is "outside". "Inside" awareness is reserved just for feelings...
...such as pain in the ass

s226
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I enjoy when atheist scientists/physicists (not saying necessarily that these guys are) end up with results that prove God exists. Eventually they will all hit that wall where their self induced bullshit falls apart.
 Quoting: Jizzer


just in:

Godtards Declare that Science Has Found GOD !!!

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The universe is a thought, so, yeah, duh.
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Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


does it hate "chinks" like you do?
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I enjoy when atheist scientists/physicists (not saying necessarily that these guys are) end up with results that prove God exists. Eventually they will all hit that wall where their self induced bullshit falls apart.
 Quoting: Jizzer


just in:

Godtards Declare that Science Has Found GOD !!!

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


One needs to define "God". If I say "God" is the carpet on my floor, well then, God exists.
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Well of course it is!

But it doesn't 'think' in words..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


It thinks in frequency and vibration
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


Light and sound.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75231814


Only sentient beings have this (and perhaps you're already aware of this AC 75231814), not 'the universe'.

An example:

Buddhas see water as light, humans see water as water, devas see water as nectar, asuras see water as something between water and nectar, animals see water as merely something to drink, hungry ghosts or pretas see water as pus or other dirty things, and hell beings see water as painful things like ice or fire (depending on if they're experiencing the hot hells or cold hells).

The water is not consciously transforming itself into these various things; it is dependent on the consciousness of the observer.

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Re: Scientists Now Believe the Universe Itself May Be Conscious
A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


More like sci fi or religion than science. Completely unprovable.
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A new scientific concept has recently come to light, which scientists are calling “panpsychism.” Panpsychism says that the universe could be capable of consciousness, which could change everything.

For quite some time, scientists have been working to understand the universe, where it came from, and why we are here. However, they have often come up short until now. The scientist responsible for such a notion is Gregory Matloff, and his ideas are shocking, to say the least.

According to Matloff, a physicist at New York City College of Technology, in his recently published paper, humans could be like the rest of the universe, in substance and in spirit. Futurism reported that a “proto-consciousness field” could extend throughout all space. Basically, in lamens terms, the entire cosmos could be self-aware.


[link to awarenessact.com]
 Quoting: Hawk-02


More like sci fi or religion than science. Completely unprovable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75227753


And the fundamental assumptions of science one of which being that all knowledge must come through PHYSICAL observation is not like a religion how?

All belief systems are like religions. Science included.
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If this is true then all things are conscious. Trees, houses, coffee cups etc...

Science also tells us that our language informs our thinking and not the other way around. So if trees and houses and coffee cups don't have language... what the hell are they thinking about?
 Quoting: RuneMistress


Language informs or programs and simplifies, but it is just one layer and not dominant. We all still contribute wordlessly to this projection of reality in concert with everything else. And styro cups are very very dumb almost not there, paper coffee cups are more conscious, but still very very dumb.
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Science is great and all - but all they have is fancy tools to measure and observe the observable universal forces and energy.

They don't have answers for the unseen. Science is and has been missing the spiritual aspect of our reality. At least some scientists are coming around and saying what we already knew.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing





The scientists are reaching the summit of their mountain and they are finding an ancient sitting at the top.

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