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So sorry for the wall of text but this is very important.

Let me start by saying I live in rural southern ohio. Most people get the mental pic of red neck and racist. But you couldn't be farther from the truth. These people are very accepting of anyone that wants to contribute to community and live in peace. However there are still only a handful of ethnic or foreign families. And if fills every stereotype there is. The mexicans own the Mexican restaurant. Chinese... restaurant. Iraqis own the gas station/ carry out/ head shop.

Last night I stopped for gas on my way home. Amir, the owner, was working as usual. He is a super friendly guy. Loves all his customers. Always goes out of his way to make sure you know you are appreciated for your patronage. We have talked for years. He moved here after the military decimated his town in Iraq. It just so happens to be a town I had "visited" in my second deployment. He knows this. We have discussed my service before and he always told me he was grateful to have been "liberated". I never fully believed that. After all he is in the business of marketing himself to a white rural community.

Over the years I have learned that he is not a particularly religious guy. He doesn't attend mosque. Where in the hell would he even go, around here? And he doesn't follow daily prayer. But due to his upbringing he still holds views and traditions of Islam.

So last night he was about to close up. I asked him how his family felt about cases of head shop items in his store. Or their thoughts on him selling alcohol. Every Christian I know would probably not sell this kind of stuff because of the nature of it. I mean is does still enable "drunkenness" and illegal (for now) drug use.

Amir asked if I minded if he closed up while we talked. I said of course not. He locked the door and spilled everything. I went home 2 hours later, not shocked but in awe of his candor.

He told me Muslims do not feel the same as Christians when it comes to these sales. Christians want to convert with love where Muslims have no such desire. He said Islam does not have any "outreach" ministry because they don't like us. In their minds they have been given the world. We are simply invaders and occupiers that will meet with a bad end.

As for the vice items, it is seen as a tool for our destruction. He said most Muslims celebrate the fact that we are coming in and giving them our money to get drunk and dumb ourselves down with drug paraphernalia. He told me about cousins who went out of their way to get younger kids to buy bath salts and synthetic shit, while it was legal.

He knows that I have killed Muslims during my service. I had opened up to him in the past about struggles I have with some of those memories (he asked first). So maybe he was returning the candor. I am paraphrasing here, but he told me that even the most moderate, to non practicing, Muslim will act when or if the time ever comes to permanently occupy this country. To him this was nothing personal. He doesn't hate us. He has disdain for how we live but not murderous hate. But to him it is their manifest destiny. They have been charged by Allah to bring Islam to world and instal sharia in all corners of the map.

I don't know why he wouldn't be afraid of this also, as a non practicing Muslim. Maybe he feels as most people do. That it will all work out with their God if they do the right thing. Maybe he has just been programmed this way from childhood. Who knows? But the conversation was truly enlightening. I have always known this. But for Amir to be this ooen about it was truly an eye opening gift. I really like the guy. But in the event of uprising, he will be the first person I visit.
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In the past, I have had bits and pieces of this conversation with hardcore Muslims. Especially while working in the ME. But to have it confirmed by a man who has successfully positioned himself within our country was something different.
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So he's an asshole like pretty much all Muslims, he's just more sneaky about it.
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clappa Can be surreal once you hear it with your own ears. I found this out a few years back when my cousin started dating a muzzle *sigh* I know but I was able to pick dudes mind while they were together. Said essentially same things, also any baby whose one parent was muslim is also considered fully Muslim and he liked to throw that in my face as we werrnt PC in our talks and had to be separated a number of times. I told him his store and house will be the first 2 places I stop by on my way to the local mosque if him and his little ducks want to play and he smiled. So trust me they know what is going on what will go on and what to do when its goes on. I can only hope more non muzzles wake up to this fact and prepare for short intense moments in their lifetimes
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That should be obvious from the lack of any appearance of moral outrage regarding their murderous behavior other than the false self justification antics by CAIR and others to confuse the simps that cant see the forest for the trees and are too stupid to review Islamic history.
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It's not a religion, it's a political ideology using religion to try to get a free pass to hate anyone who disbelieves in Islam without any repercussions. They just say you hate them, just to get a leg up on you, when the hate originates in their twisted doctrine. You can't trust any Muslim to be truthful or honest, unless it benefits them directly to do so. Otherwise, it's going to be utter BS to get them where ever it is they need to go or what they want to get.

They are brainwashed into their political ideology and taught it from an early age, to the exclusion if all else, so the only way you can unbrainwash them is either through education, which rarely works, or through assimilation, which also rarely works.

Other than that, they need to be kept out of democratic civilization or removed from it, if they invade it. Sharia law is NOT compatible with ANY civilized society.
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Thanks for the pin!
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So sorry for the wall of text but this is very important.

Let me start by saying I live in rural southern ohio. Most people get the mental pic of red neck and racist. But you couldn't be farther from the truth. These people are very accepting of anyone that wants to contribute to community and live in peace. However there are still only a handful of ethnic or foreign families. And if fills every stereotype there is. The mexicans own the Mexican restaurant. Chinese... restaurant. Iraqis own the gas station/ carry out/ head shop.

Last night I stopped for gas on my way home. Amir, the owner, was working as usual. He is a super friendly guy. Loves all his customers. Always goes out of his way to make sure you know you are appreciated for your patronage. We have talked for years. He moved here after the military decimated his town in Iraq. It just so happens to be a town I had "visited" in my second deployment. He knows this. We have discussed my service before and he always told me he was grateful to have been "liberated". I never fully believed that. After all he is in the business of marketing himself to a white rural community.

Over the years I have learned that he is not a particularly religious guy. He doesn't attend mosque. Where in the hell would he even go, around here? And he doesn't follow daily prayer. But due to his upbringing he still holds views and traditions of Islam.

So last night he was about to close up. I asked him how his family felt about cases of head shop items in his store. Or their thoughts on him selling alcohol. Every Christian I know would probably not sell this kind of stuff because of the nature of it. I mean is does still enable "drunkenness" and illegal (for now) drug use.

Amir asked if I minded if he closed up while we talked. I said of course not. He locked the door and spilled everything. I went home 2 hours later, not shocked but in awe of his candor.

He told me Muslims do not feel the same as Christians when it comes to these sales. Christians want to convert with love where Muslims have no such desire. He said Islam does not have any "outreach" ministry because they don't like us. In their minds they have been given the world. We are simply invaders and occupiers that will meet with a bad end.

As for the vice items, it is seen as a tool for our destruction. He said most Muslims celebrate the fact that we are coming in and giving them our money to get drunk and dumb ourselves down with drug paraphernalia. He told me about cousins who went out of their way to get younger kids to buy bath salts and synthetic shit, while it was legal.

He knows that I have killed Muslims during my service. I had opened up to him in the past about struggles I have with some of those memories (he asked first). So maybe he was returning the candor. I am paraphrasing here, but he told me that even the most moderate, to non practicing, Muslim will act when or if the time ever comes to permanently occupy this country. To him this was nothing personal. He doesn't hate us. He has disdain for how we live but not murderous hate. But to him it is their manifest destiny. They have been charged by Allah to bring Islam to world and instal sharia in all corners of the map.

I don't know why he wouldn't be afraid of this also, as a non practicing Muslim. Maybe he feels as most people do. That it will all work out with their God if they do the right thing. Maybe he has just been programmed this way from childhood. Who knows? But the conversation was truly enlightening. I have always known this. But for Amir to be this ooen about it was truly an eye opening gift. I really like the guy. But in the event of uprising, he will be the first person I visit.
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I have always thought this.
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....

He said most Muslims celebrate the fact that we are coming in and giving them our money to get drunk and dumb ourselves down with drug paraphernalia. ....

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There is another tribe that does the same thing with movies, the music industry, etc.
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But Muslims didn't do 9-11....if your on a conspiracy site pushing the trump neocon version of events your a paid shill
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So he's an asshole like pretty much all Muslims, he's just more sneaky about it.
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I guess so. I wanted to believe that, possibly, some were different. But I haven't met any.
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Since ISlam is a near exact copy of another religion the same mindset prevails.

Religions based on invasion and displacement and extermination of others cannot be made peaceful.
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It's not a religion, it's a political ideology using religion to try to get a free pass to hate anyone who disbelieves in Islam without any repercussions. They just say you hate them, just to get a leg up on you, when the hate originates in their twisted doctrine. You can't trust any Muslim to be truthful or honest, unless it benefits them directly to do so. Otherwise, it's going to be utter BS to get them where ever it is they need to go or what they want to get.

They are brainwashed into their political ideology and taught it from an early age, to the exclusion if all else, so the only way you can unbrainwash them is either through education, which rarely works, or through assimilation, which also rarely works.

Other than that, they need to be kept out of democratic civilization or removed from it, if they invade it. Sharia law is NOT compatible with ANY civilized society.
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So true.

That's why the Muslim Brotherhood said Our constitution was compatible with Islam. (Good grief-rolls eyes)

They will use protecting religious beliefs to their benefit.

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But Muslims didn't do 9-11....if your on a conspiracy site pushing the trump neocon version of events your a paid shill
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Whos at fault, the hammer or the one that acquires, picks up and swings the hammer.

Who is busy swinging the Muzz at your heads?
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It's not a religion, it's a political ideology using religion to try to get a free pass to hate anyone who disbelieves in Islam without any repercussions. They just say you hate them, just to get a leg up on you, when the hate originates in their twisted doctrine. You can't trust any Muslim to be truthful or honest, unless it benefits them directly to do so. Otherwise, it's going to be utter BS to get them where ever it is they need to go or what they want to get.

They are brainwashed into their political ideology and taught it from an early age, to the exclusion if all else, so the only way you can unbrainwash them is either through education, which rarely works, or through assimilation, which also rarely works.

Other than that, they need to be kept out of democratic civilization or removed from it, if they invade it. Sharia law is NOT compatible with ANY civilized society.
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So true.

That's why the Muslim Brotherhood said Our constitution was compatible with Islam. (Good grief-rolls eyes)

They will use protecting religious beliefs to their benefit.

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You may consider starting with the very first group that declared Christianity offensive to their own beliefs.
You'd see that road has been built into a well paved 100 lane expressway starting over a century ago.
Consider all religions that start out by declaring all others worthy of destruction at their hand as the same religion.
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clappa Can be surreal once you hear it with your own ears. I found this out a few years back when my cousin started dating a muzzle *sigh* I know but I was able to pick dudes mind while they were together. Said essentially same things, also any baby whose one parent was muslim is also considered fully Muslim and he liked to throw that in my face as we werrnt PC in our talks and had to be separated a number of times. I told him his store and house will be the first 2 places I stop by on my way to the local mosque if him and his little ducks want to play and he smiled. So trust me they know what is going on what will go on and what to do when its goes on. I can only hope more non muzzles wake up to this fact and prepare for short intense moments in their lifetimes
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Ha! Don't feel bad. My son was sleeping with a Muslim girl. He didn't want anything long term but she must have been in love. She told me that she was terrified she would be killed if her father found out. I begged her to stop seeing him because I knew what he was doing. She ended up being disowned but not killed... That I know of. And my kid moved on to the next girl, like I knew he would. I did get to pick her brain about how the traditional Muslim family worked. She didn't even know what her dad did for a living. Very patriarchal.
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Our POS Obama standing with the door open for all these eventual traitors. f him and anyone that voted for him especially the 2nd time.
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i like your thread and enjoyed reading it but still don't quite believe he would tell you this stuff? what benefit is it to him?
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Since ISlam is a near exact copy of another religion the same mindset prevails.

Religions based on invasion and displacement and extermination of others cannot be made peaceful.
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Well Islam follows the old testament up to Ishmael, I believe. The spin it bit a lot of views would be similar.
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In the past, I have had bits and pieces of this conversation with hardcore Muslims. Especially while working in the ME. But to have it confirmed by a man who has successfully positioned himself within our country was something different.
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So...If some military blew the crap out of your hometown, and you basically had to pick up and leave your country and live in the same exact country that had conducted the invasion, you would be a bitter assh***

Yeah I knew that already

shocking
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But Muslims didn't do 9-11....if your on a conspiracy site pushing the trump neocon version of events your a paid shill
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I didn't say a word about 911. If anything, I believe we kicked the hive when we went to war. They were contained before then. Seems fairly orchestrated doesn't it?
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It's not a religion, it's a political ideology using religion to try to get a free pass to hate anyone who disbelieves in Islam without any repercussions. They just say you hate them, just to get a leg up on you, when the hate originates in their twisted doctrine. You can't trust any Muslim to be truthful or honest, unless it benefits them directly to do so. Otherwise, it's going to be utter BS to get them where ever it is they need to go or what they want to get.

They are brainwashed into their political ideology and taught it from an early age, to the exclusion if all else, so the only way you can unbrainwash them is either through education, which rarely works, or through assimilation, which also rarely works.

Other than that, they need to be kept out of democratic civilization or removed from it, if they invade it. Sharia law is NOT compatible with ANY civilized society.
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So true.

That's why the Muslim Brotherhood said Our constitution was compatible with Islam. (Good grief-rolls eyes)

They will use protecting religious beliefs to their benefit.

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Right on.
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If this is NEW news for anyone reading this they have had their heads up their asses. I have heard and read this for years.Everyone you can listen to western scholars on this many places. But thanks OP for bringing this to the attention of those who aren't willing to find out what is happening in every country. The middle east and africa in general is for the most part violent and have nothing to do with western values..
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In the past, I have had bits and pieces of this conversation with hardcore Muslims. Especially while working in the ME. But to have it confirmed by a man who has successfully positioned himself within our country was something different.
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So...If some military blew the crap out of your hometown, and you basically had to pick up and leave your country and live in the same exact country that had conducted the invasion, you would be a bitter assh***

Yeah I knew that already

shocking
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I get that better then anyone. I saw what they went through. The shocking part is the denial of the progressive agenda that is flooding our country with these people. The liberal insanity of supporting and defending the very people that suppress women and want us dead.
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At least now you know who to grease first on that day son!
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If this is NEW news for anyone reading this they have had their heads up their asses. I have heard and read this for years.Everyone you can listen to western scholars on this many places. But thanks OP for bringing this to the attention of those who aren't willing to find out what is happening in every country. The middle east and africa in general is for the most part violent and have nothing to do with western values..
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I agree. I had always known it. But thought it was a true find to talk to person willing to admit it.
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So he's an asshole like pretty much all Muslims, he's just more sneaky about it.
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He's not sneaky. He's acting the way most "moderate" muslims act at this time. Wait it out. This is the mindset of *ALL* muslims who are in Western countries.

When the times comes, they WILL rise against all westerners and come to kill us.

The sooner we figure it out, the sooner we can come to terms that we have ALLOWED "peaceful invasion" to begin in our country, and one day they will ALL rise up to kill us.
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Yes! Very good. Will read through this.
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