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BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot
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Witness_ 
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3/14/2007 7:40 PM
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... oh and in addition to being tortured for all these years in Guantanamo Bay, the "released material" is also heavily censored "by the Pentagon to remove sensitive intelligence material". Would that be, like, the torture? Or the references to the CIA help? Or perhaps the invaluable support given in 911 by NORAD and the rest of the gang?
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 7:41 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
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Divinity
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3/14/2007 7:44 PM
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Wow, that guy had some karma eh, Witness!? And we're all supposed to believe he was public enemy no. 1. Hmmmmmm. I swear these idiots at the top think we're stupid! 
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 7:45 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Now if we can only get him to admit to rigging the election...no wait, scratch that..... |
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Witness_
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3/14/2007 7:49 PM
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Yes Divinity, it's crazy.
And I just love the rapid BS flag raise as soon as I posted the truth WITH link to breaking news. Who doesn't want to hear the truth then?
Hmmm....
And it was magically all OBL's fault.
Oh, no wait... they are not looking for him anymore.
Iran is to blame.
Or was that Iraq?
No, it was Afghanistan.
No, wait, North Korea. |
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Witness_
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3/14/2007 7:50 PM
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Now if we can only get him to admit to rigging the election...no wait, scratch that..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208180
ROTFL!
Yes, and putting the BBC on standby for big news a week early.
And cutting the news feed when it was clear that the WTC7 collapse was pre-announced. |
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Dervish
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3/14/2007 7:55 PM
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Hey cool, 3 more years and maybe we can finally close the JFK case.
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And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war"
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 7:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
One of his most unusual confessions involved the sireing of his mother. When asked "Whose your daddy?", his reply was quite extraordinary, but the Soldier asking didn't seem to be too suprised. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 7:58 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
The saga of the false flag coverup continues...
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PACNWguy
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3/14/2007 7:59 PM
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OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Witness_
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3/14/2007 8:00 PM
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Hey cool, 3 more years and maybe we can finally close the JFK case. Quoting: Dervish
ROTFL! |
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Witness_
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3/14/2007 8:01 PM
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Cool pic PACNW |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 8:08 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Well I guess they had to come out with something after the BBC 20 minutes early fiasco. |
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PACNWguy
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3/14/2007 8:09 PM
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Cool pic PACNW Quoting: Witness_
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OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/14/2007 11:52 PM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
God bless the collective mind control it always has the click. |
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NotReallyHuman_
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3/15/2007 12:53 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
3 YEARS OF TORTURE????
...bitches, the lot of 'em....f*kkin' bitches. After three years of torture, I might admit that their wives like (insert your favorite taboo act of sado-maschocism) but I wouldn't admit to the greatest caper of all time,..that's between me and my bros...like I said,...b*tches!!! CHUPA PUTOS!!!!!
...How gullible they take us for....
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 12:56 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Cool pic PACNW
:ctu: Quoting: PACNWguy
Komitet Gozudarstvenoi Besopasnosti |
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NotReallyHuman_
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3/15/2007 12:59 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Komitet Gozudarstvenoi Besopasnosti Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209140
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
KGB?? naaa, spetsnaz!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 3:34 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
The SKM confession:
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NWO NWO NWO NWO NWO NWO NWO Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209163
Ditto
utter bullshit by the Illuminati Globalists and their shills |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 3:36 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
3 YEARS OF TORTURE????
...bitches, the lot of 'em....f*kkin' bitches. After three years of torture, I might admit that their wives like (insert your favorite taboo act of sado-maschocism) but I wouldn't admit to the greatest caper of all time,..that's between me and my bros...like I said,...b*tches!!! CHUPA PUTOS!!!!!
...How gullible they take us for....
-inspiration from Four Brothers- Quoting: NotReallyHuman_ 205455
Alle Juden raus. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 3:36 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Next he will confess to being Anna Nicole's lover and father of her daughter |
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i is that which i is
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3/15/2007 4:39 AM
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I probably would have confessed to anything they wanted within three days if they promised that it would not be used against me.
But knowing the SOBs they will now use this confession under duress to hang him in a secret military trial. They can't let him live to tell his side of the story to the world.
Peace 
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Behemoth
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3/15/2007 5:07 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
My grand-grandpa confesses he had killed the Dead Sea. And without torture.  |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2694 (OP)
3/15/2007 5:13 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
3 YEARS OF TORTURE????
...bitches, the lot of 'em....f*kkin' bitches. After three years of torture, I might admit that their wives like (insert your favorite taboo act of sado-maschocism) but I wouldn't admit to the greatest caper of all time,..that's between me and my bros...like I said,...b*tches!!! CHUPA PUTOS!!!!!
...How gullible they take us for....
-inspiration from Four Brothers- Quoting: NotReallyHuman_ 205455
Having seen a tiny bit of the sort of treatment these guys have every day over there in Cuba, I can tell you that most people who post here at GLP (and everyone I meet in civilian life) would confess to anything after just a few hours.
It really is that bad.
Three years.
Think of it
And never ending. If he didn't "confess" then he would be there for ever. He will die half-drowning on a waterboard, or high on LSD with stobe lights having been kept awake for a week or two... or something.
He would know that there is no way, none at all, out of that place, that pain, that never ending misery.
So confessing to what your torturers and eventual killers want is the only way. You know that you will die in this hell anyway. You know that the pain will never stop. You know that you are losing your mind, have lost your health and have lost everything and anything in your life. All you have now is an untold amount of time that you have already spent in hell and the rest of your life of the same.
But confess, and they will "show trial" you at best before they kill you. It ends in months rather than years. Either way you will die. Either way this only stops when you do die or you confess. So the only option, the only real option, is to confess.
Given enough years, anyone and everyone will do just that.
I am amazed that he held out this long.
He must be super human.
Think of all the people who commit suicide over just silly things in life, going bankrupt, losing a loved one, etc. Serious to them, but nothing at all on the scale of what this guy had 24x7, 265 days a year, year after year with no hope, no end and absolute certainty that it will never end.
Never.
Not while he is live.
Think of that. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2694 (OP)
3/15/2007 5:18 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
I probably would have confessed to anything they wanted within three days if they promised that it would not be used against me.
But knowing the SOBs they will now use this confession under duress to hang him in a secret military trial. They can't let him live to tell his side of the story to the world.
Peace Quoting: i is that which i is
Indeed.
I think that three days holding out is near superhuman.
Here's something that most people can try at home if they dare:
Simply stay awake for three days. But stay awake with heavy metal blasting in your ears. Continuously. And no water. No food oh... and no toilet. You cannot relieve yourself.
Oh... and you must be crouched in a corner, hands tied behind your back (ask a friend to to this).
Just try that.
Now, what this guy would have been through, for WEEKS at a time bringing him routinely close to death, isn't a patch on that. He would look FORWARD to those breaks when what you are trying at home is all that he could hope for at best.
So, you aren't actually even at begin.
But try it anyway.
Then you will see. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 7:15 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
He also shot Archduke Ferdinand! |
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Sigma
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3/15/2007 7:25 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
I probably would have confessed to anything they wanted within three days if they promised that it would not be used against me.
But knowing the SOBs they will now use this confession under duress to hang him in a secret military trial. They can't let him live to tell his side of the story to the world.
Peace Quoting: i is that which i is
FWIW He was given the opportunity to take back anything he said and he not only refused to take back anything he admitted to, they said he expanded on it.
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 7:27 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
He probably 'confessed' under torture a long time ago, this is just being published now to distract and make the gov look competent. But after legalizing torture just a few months ago, I can't see even sheepsies being sucked in by it. |
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 7:30 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
'They' have said a lot of things.
How many times did 'they' capture and or kill Zarqawi? Every 8 months or a so a new '9/11 mastermind' or 'obl #2' gets dragged out for public consumption. |
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Sigma
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3/15/2007 7:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
The self-described "operational director" of the September 11, 2001, attack on America, is claiming a role in more than 30 planned or attempted terrorist attacks.
"I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A to Z," said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a written statement that was read to a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a transcript released by the Pentagon on Wednesday.
The Khalid Sheikh Mohammed statement was read at the military hearing by a member of the U.S. military who is serving as the tribunal's Personal Representative for Mohammed, who the transcript says was present and was asked by the presiding officer about the authenticity of the statement.
"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the statement that was just read by the Personal Representative, were those your words?" asked the presiding officer, according to the transcript, which says Mohammed replied: "Yes."
Later in the hearing, the transcript says, Mohammed spoke directly to the court, in a final statement in which he describes himself as an enemy combatant, compared the fighters in the jihad against America to George Washington, and makes a plea on behalf of "many" Guantanamo Bay detainees he says were "unjustly arrested."
The secret proceeding last Saturday was closed to news media. The detainee spoke in English to a four-officer panel during a proceeding that lasted one hour and fifteen minutes.
"I'm not making myself hero when I said I was responsible for this or that," said. The brazen list of attacks, read by his Personal Representative, ranged from the 1993 World Trade Center truck bombing led by his nephew, Ramzi Yousef, who is serving a life sentence in the U.S., to the 2002 bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia, which killed more than 200 people.
"This so-called confession probably dooms him [Muhammed] to a future death sentence," says CBS News legal consultant Andrew Cohen. "There are some close cases down there, some false charges, but this isn't one of them. It's only if he somehow makes it into federal court that his statements could be successfully challenged."
Mohammed's confession also refers to many plots not previously made public: potential attacks on the Panama Canal, Big Ben in London, NATO headquarters in Brussels, an assassination of former President Jimmy Carter, and the destruction of an Indonesian oil company purportedly owned by former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
The confession also talks of plots against U.S. and U.K. targets in Turkey, nightclubs frequented by Americans and Brits in Thailand, U.S. embassies in Indonesia, Australia, and Japan, Israeli embassies in India and the Philippines, and the Israeli resort of Eilat.
Mohammed furthermore claims credit for training the nineteen Sept. 11 homicidal hijackers and would-be "shoe-bomber" Richard Reid, who was tackled by passengers on a 2001 Paris to Miami airline flight. He took responsibility for a 2002 attack that killed a pair of U.S. soldiers on a Kuwaiti island and a shoulder-fired missile that missed an Israeli passenger plane taking off from Mombassa, Kenya.
Mohammed's role as the lead actor in the Sep. 11 plot, which he proposed to al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in 1996 and bin Laden set in motion in 1999, has long been established. It was described in detail in the 9/11 Commission report published in 2004 and in a written substitution for his testimony in last year's trial of al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, who Mohammed says was tapped only for a "second wave" of post-9/11 attacks.
Among his new revelations, Mohammed said potential targets for a second wave of attacks using planes as missiles were the Empire State Building in New York and the Plaza Bank Building in Seattle.
The government had previously disclosed that the tallest building on the West Coast, the Library Tower in Los Angeles (now known as U.S. Bank Tower) and the tallest building in North America, the Sears Tower in Chicago, were in al Qaeda's sights. Mohammed, in the statement read to the tribunal, also described an alternative plan to set off oil tankers at the Sears Tower base, and said he oversaw efforts to deploy anthrax and nuclear-laced "dirty" bombs in the U.S.
The Guantanamo Bay hearing, known as a Combatant Status Review Tribunal, is a formality allowing the military to certify a detainee as an "enemy combatant" who warrants further detention and can be prosecuted by a military tribunal. In Mohammed's case, the prisoner made matters quite simple. "For sure, I'm American enemies," he said. "I don't have anything to say that I'm not enemy."
But at one point the self-proclaimed jihadist seemed to express some remorse for the 2,973 people killed after three hijacked planes rammed the twin towers of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and a fourth hijacked plane targeting the Capitol crashed in rural Pennsylvania. "I'm not happy that three thousand been killed in America. I feel sorry, even. I don't like to kill children," he said.
When he wasn't pointing to Islam to defend his actions, Mohammed went so far as to liken bin Laden to the first American President. "He is just fighting. He needs his independence," he said. "If now we were living in the Revolutionary War, George Washington, he being arrested through Britian, for sure he - they would consider him enemy combatant. But America, they consider him a hero," KSM said.
"This is why the language of war is killing. I mean the language of war is victims," Mohammed continued, turning philosophical. "War will never stop. War start from Adam when Cain he killed Abel – until now. It's never gonna stop – killing of people."
Mohammed argued on behalf of fellow detainees, saying some of the nearly 400 men still incarcerated in Guantanamo were "unjustly arrested." He said, "I'm asking you to be fair with other people."
After Mohammed's statement, the panel led by an unnamed U.S. Navy captain asked him no follow-up questions. It had rejected his request to call two fellow Guantanamo detainees as witnesses – Sept. 11 plot coordinator Ramzi Binalshibh and hijacker facilitator Mustafa al-Hawsawi.
The government's unclassified evidence summary revealed that a computer hard drive seized from the safe house in Karachi, Pakistan, where Mohammed was captured in March 2003 contained names and photos of the nineteen Sept. 11 hijackers, a list of airliners and targets, three letters from Osama bin Laden, and a spreadsheet apparently detailing payments to al Qaeda families living in Pakistan.
With no defense lawyer present, Mohammed denied through his assigned Personal Representative that the seized computer was his and suggested that it belonged to al-Hawsawi, who was captured with him. Mohammed also denied that he had received funding for his operations from Islamic fundamentalists in Kuwait.
Mohammed's connections to the first World Trade Center bombing – the first crime mentioned in his statement to the tribunal at Gitmo - have not been considered more than wiring several hundred dollars to the Yousef cell.
Mohammed, who earned an engineering degree at a North Carolina college in the 1980s, remains under federal indictment in New York, accused in connection with a foiled mid-1990s plot with Yousef to detonate bombs on a dozen U.S.-bound airliners over the Pacific. Yousef and two other conspirators were convicted by a jury for the terror conspiracy, which included plans to assassinate President Clinton and Pope John Paul II on visits to the Philippines.
The Guantanamo hearing was the most extensive public statement by Mohammed since a 2002 interview he gave to the Arabic news channel Al Jazeera.
The Moussaoui trial jury heard that Mohammed told his original interrogators the purpose of Sep. 11 was to "wake the American people up." Last September, Mohammed and 13 other prisoners the government describes as "high value" were transferred from secret CIA-run overseas jails to Guantanamo.
The first two from this group to be reviewed were Binalshibh and Abu Faraj al-Libi, once a supervisor of al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan.
Hearings for Binalshibh and al-Libi were both held on March 9, as the government began hearings on whether 14 alleged terror leaders should be declared "enemy combatants."
Binalshibh's hearing, which lasted 33 minutes and he did not attend, revealed that the Pakistan safe house where he was captured in 2002 held explosives, training manuals, bin Laden family passports, and identification cards for al Qaeda members. According to the government's unclassified evidence summary, a diary belonging to an al Qaeda leader and found in Saudi Arabia corroborated details of Binalshibh's role aiding the hijacker-pilots with whom he lived in Hamburg, Germany.
Al-Libi, who has been in custody two years, skipped his hearing, which lasted only 19 minutes.
But he complained, through his assigned military tribunal Personal Representative, that the process was "incomplete" in depriving him of a lawyer.
"I am extremely keen to exercise my rights full according to the law of the United States," said al-Libi.
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Anonymous Coward
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3/15/2007 7:38 AM | | Re: BREAKING: After 3 years of torture Khalid Sheikh Mohammed "admits" 911 responsibility, Big Ben plot and Heathrow plot | Quote |
Then I guess the War On Terror is over because the man responsible is in custody. We've sure wasted a lot of money for nothing since we've had him for 3 years. All those searches on old ladies going on planes, luggage searches, the whole thing....wasted. |
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