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tman
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3/22/2007 3:19 PM

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Pretty soon all convicts will have one, people with alzheimers will have one, then kids will get one just in case theyre kidnapped.... all the produce in your store will be tagged and your appliances at home will be able to read these tags... and you will live in a virtual world...and the eye of horus will be on each and every one of us.....my question is- when they go to tag you what will you do?

User ID: 211712
3/22/2007 3:27 PM
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wrongo.

the Mark of the Beast is MONEY and has been around and used as the 'Beast's' (government and shadow government) system of control for centuries.

Having the Mark on the 'forehead' means a person's thoughts and sight are dictated by money - it's all they think about, and all they 'see' when looking at the world.

Having the Mark in your 'hand' means you hold it in high esteem and flash it about.
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 3:38 PM
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Right Im gonna have to totally disagree with you....we're moving to a cashless society, "money" will no longer exist you will live by credits, which the rfid tag in your right hand or forehead will be able to pick up and read all transactions you perform during the day...

And [the Antichrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save [except] he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev 13:16-18 KJV
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 121552
3/22/2007 3:44 PM
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The mark of the beast is the computer and internet.

Mark on the head = Monitor
Mark on the hand = mouse
Nockoff
User ID: 89288
3/22/2007 3:54 PM
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oh! so It´s no longer Bar codes? drama
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
3/22/2007 3:55 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

If you're gonna quote the bible, use the right reference frame for the definition the number.

Kings 10:14
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
3/22/2007 3:56 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

10:14. And the weight of the gold that was brought to Solomon every year, was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212508
3/22/2007 4:10 PM
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Pretty soon all convicts will have one, people with alzheimers will have one, then kids will get one just in case theyre kidnapped.... all the produce in your store will be tagged and your appliances at home will be able to read these tags... and you will live in a virtual world...and the eye of horus will be on each and every one of us.....my question is- when they go to tag you what will you do?
 Quoting: tman



There is no need for kidnapping and whatsoever, there are already powder (made by Hitachi) with many small (0,05mm-0.7mm) RFID-Chips...

[link to blog.kairaven.de]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212508
3/22/2007 4:15 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

here is a (bad) translated english link
[link to translate.google.com]
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 4:19 PM
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I quoted revelations and it was correct....

I know the powder Hitachi make, that will be used for mass goods eventually...but the need for kidnapping is to "force" people to wear it, youre not gonna do it out of choice now are you?

does 911 and invading Iraq ring a bell or any of the plethora of problem-reaction-solutions that the elite use to control society come to mind?

how about global warming? ooooh the ice sheets are melting...goto Graham Hancocks website and youll see maps from hundreds of years ago that showed they were alot smaller than todays ice sheets...global warming is due to the solar system warming up, but the elite will turn it into the problem(CFC'S)-reaction(FALSE SCIENCE)-solution(TAX CITIZENS OF THE WORLD TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT ISNT REAL)......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2529
3/22/2007 4:25 PM
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No you're not correct. John's revelation is NEVER literal.

It ALWAYS refers to old testament in SYMBOLISM.

The mark is money. KINGS1, 10:14

We all have it in our right hand to spend, but not all of us have it as the main focus in our lives (in your forehead).

You cannot choose which parts to be literal (such as moon turning to blood) and which are symbolic. It is ALL symbolic.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212508
3/22/2007 4:27 PM
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...but the need for kidnapping is to "force" people to wear it, youre not gonna do it out of choice now are you?
 Quoting: tman


How to notice a difference after eating something?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212533
3/22/2007 4:46 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

Pretty soon all convicts will have one, people with alzheimers will have one, then kids will get one just in case theyre kidnapped.... all the produce in your store will be tagged and your appliances at home will be able to read these tags... and you will live in a virtual world...and the eye of horus will be on each and every one of us.....my question is- when they go to tag you what will you do?
 Quoting: tman


Fucking REFUSE.

I do not love my life unto the death.

I love Yeshua more.
Little Star
User ID: 11400
3/22/2007 5:12 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

No you're not correct. John's revelation is NEVER literal.

It ALWAYS refers to old testament in SYMBOLISM.

The mark is money. KINGS1, 10:14

We all have it in our right hand to spend, but not all of us have it as the main focus in our lives (in your forehead).

You cannot choose which parts to be literal (such as moon turning to blood) and which are symbolic. It is ALL symbolic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2529


You got it! I was totally surprised that someone on glp could know this info. Hats off to you AC 2529!

I do not want you to short change yourself in your thinking.
Yes, there is lots of symbolics in the bible. Very few get to understand them.

Blessings to all

Money is the root of all evil!
Hmmm
User ID: 152927
3/22/2007 5:45 PM
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With all this talk of rfid, it got me wondering. If this were ever forced on people what would happen to me and certain members of my family. I am one of those people that can not wear or have certain metals on or in my skin for extended periods of time (over an hour). This allergy includes silver, stainless steel, copper, etc and hard plastics. I learned about the reaction to stainless steel while getting a blood transfusion, boy were the doctors surprised. The only metal I can wear or have in direct contact with is Gold. Dependant upon the metal/plastics, in most cases even a barrier doesn’t prevent the swelling and rash. Would I we be imprisoned?
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 5:58 PM
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Revelations is a mixture of symbolism and fact..it names names it names places...it says about the ones who says they are the Jews but are not for they are the synagogue of satan - this is referring to the Khazar "Jews" of Aryan/Brahmin origin...

If you're point is correct about it being money then everyone on this planet is already in trouble..

Revelation 14:9 —"If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10 he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name"

So have you had MONEY in your hand AC or little star?...People have used bird feathers or sea shells as money for thousands of years THIS IS NOT WHAT REVELATIONS IS TALKING ABOUT.....

Its an RFID tag that will mark who you are with a unique 14 digit code in the soon to be cashless society where everything is recorded and everything is watched, and if you agree to live in this society then you turn your back on God....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212533
3/22/2007 6:08 PM
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With all this talk of rfid, it got me wondering. If this were ever forced on people what would happen to me and certain members of my family. I am one of those people that can not wear or have certain metals on or in my skin for extended periods of time (over an hour). This allergy includes silver, stainless steel, copper, etc and hard plastics. I learned about the reaction to stainless steel while getting a blood transfusion, boy were the doctors surprised. The only metal I can wear or have in direct contact with is Gold. Dependant upon the metal/plastics, in most cases even a barrier doesn’t prevent the swelling and rash. Would I we be imprisoned?
 Quoting: Hmmm 152927


"Would I be imprisoned?"

No, you would just be denied the right to buy and sell.

Their "chip" is probably not made out of gold...

Even if it were, I would never take it. Yahweh has my soul and Yeshua is my Savior.

Make sure you can grow your own food, or have years' worth of it on hand.

I agree with the OP. The cashless society is right around the corner....

User ID: 211712
3/22/2007 7:02 PM
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"Would I be imprisoned?"

No, you would just be denied the right to buy and sell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212533


you can't 'buy' or 'sell' now without using any valid form of currency - MONEY. It doesn't matter if it's in the bank and you are using your check or debit card or even credit card.

MONEY is the MARK OF THE BEAST
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 7:23 PM
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Money is not the mark of the beast, beacause we have all spent money today and if thats the case we're all fucked...Im not talking about debit cards or money in the bank, you're missing the point... If you sell me your TV and I give you 2 tickets for U2 (even though theyre shite) then we bought/sold/exchanged without the mark of the beast....

In an RFID tagged scoiety, where everything from the paper you print to the clothes you wear will be tagged...EVERYTHING!

So if you want to BUY or SELL you will need to use the RFID tag in your hand.....this will deduct CREDITS from your 14 digit account.....we will live in a fuckin slave society...look at the interview with Aaron Russo about nick rockefeller and their plan to chip every citizen in the US very soon...or go onto Alex Jones website man...

God and the US Constitution are all about freedom (so was Braveheart come to think of it) ...and these are under great threat right now as predicted in Revelations...

All money is is a medium of exchange it is not the mark of the beast......
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211173
3/22/2007 7:28 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

The mark is actually the satanic six pointed star of David symbol, it represents the number 666, Hitler had it stamped on Jews during the war, it will be used again as a mark to identify those who worship the beast when the NWO kicks in for real.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212641
3/22/2007 7:56 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

.....this will deduct CREDITS from your 14 digit account.....
 Quoting: tman

Never heard about that 14 digit account. Is it exactly 14 digits? Any informational hints/links?
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 8:16 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

It might change but it looks like 14 digits now unless theres a huge population explosion ;)

Anyway goto google or youtube and type in rfid - especially check the "legit" cos and theyre..."you havent heard about RFID!?" ad's - fuckin crazy shit...

Anyway we'll just have to have a global revolution...its the only way
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211173
3/22/2007 8:48 PM
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IBM RFID Checkout in Supermarket wanna see what paying for your goods will be like when the chips come?

30 sec video
[link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211173
3/22/2007 8:51 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

Another advert for chip shopping

[link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160497
3/22/2007 8:54 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

IBM RFID Checkout in Supermarket wanna see what paying for your goods will be like when the chips come?

30 sec video
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 211173


This will be awesome, I can't wait!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211173
3/22/2007 8:54 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

IBM and the Holocaust

[link to www.youtube.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32062
3/22/2007 9:07 PM
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wrongo.

the Mark of the Beast is MONEY and has been around and used as the 'Beast's' (government and shadow government) system of control for centuries.

Having the Mark on the 'forehead' means a person's thoughts and sight are dictated by money - it's all they think about, and all they 'see' when looking at the world.

Having the Mark in your 'hand' means you hold it in high esteem and flash it about.
 Quoting: † 211712


They're not wrong. We'll see if your theory is correct when all currency is eliminated and the only way to get food, medical care, or anything you used to have access to can only be obtained by taking the "mark" in your hand or forehead for easy scanner reading. They (powers and principalities) will make you swear alliegance to them and the symbol of your loyalty will be the mark.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 32062
3/22/2007 9:12 PM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

"Would I be imprisoned?"

No, you would just be denied the right to buy and sell.



you can't 'buy' or 'sell' now without using any valid form of currency - MONEY. It doesn't matter if it's in the bank and you are using your check or debit card or even credit card.

MONEY is the MARK OF THE BEAST
 Quoting: † 211712


Perhaps you'd better do some field work, cash is gonna be worth the paper it's printed on soon and the only way you can feed your family (in the eyes of those who want a one-world government) is taking the mark. Think about it, if a centralized world government controlled all commerce and trade they would control the people...and controlling the masses is the ultimate power trip. Might even say they have a messianic complex.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212641
3/22/2007 9:46 PM
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Have you ever seen the sci-fi movie "Logan's Run" (1976) by Michael Joseph Anderson, based on the novel of William Francis Nolan (* 1928)? Everybody has got a kind of crystal rosette in one's right palm. That movie was an allegory to the mark of The Beast.
tman
User ID: 212550
3/22/2007 9:54 PM
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32062 - please excuse the pun, but youre bang on the money...ahem ;)...

Havent seen Logans Run always wanted to though, Ill defo get it out this weekend... another thing you should see is aaron russo's from freedom to fascism....

[link to video.google.com]

I live in Ireland but I know as soon as America goes we're all gone...goddam Brits!!! well the rothschild/royal family ones anyway

User ID: 211712
3/23/2007 2:28 AM
Re: rfid - mark of the beastQuote

They're not wrong. We'll see if your theory is correct when all currency is eliminated and the only way to get food, medical care, or anything you used to have access to can only be obtained by taking the "mark" in your hand or forehead for easy scanner reading. They (powers and principalities) will make you swear alliegance to them and the symbol of your loyalty will be the mark.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062


You don't understand, nor have you been listening - but that is OK.

The proposed RFID chip to identify all persons for legal monetary transactions is merely an extension of the existing monetary legacy Mark of the Beast.

In your Christian theology, do you think for a moment that 'God' would actually condemn ones forced to accept this 'Mark' against their will?

Imagine, for a moment, 'rebels' who are incarcerated via the so-called 'Patriot' Act as 'terrorists' because they oppose the current regime. These 'rebels' are implanted with this chip - this 'Mark of the Beast' as you deem it - AGAINST THEIR WILL, are they now irredeemable?

This is the same logic you use to accuse people who simply trade with money now - YOU AND ME alike - are we also irredeemable in 'God's' eyes?

I will repeat mine own and two other's posts to this thread to make the point clear: the Bible Prophecy is entirely metaphorical, although as the End draws near, it's portent will take more and more literal meaning - the proposed RFID chip is only an extension of the existing paradigm, you need to see the parallel back in time to have true understanding - MONEY is the MARK of the BEAST. Take heed:

Having the Mark on the 'forehead' means a person's thoughts and sight are dictated by money - it's all they think about, and all they 'see' when looking at the world.

Having the Mark in your 'hand' means you hold it in high esteem and flash it about.


quoting 2529:

John's revelation is NEVER literal.

It ALWAYS refers to old testament in SYMBOLISM.

The mark is money. KINGS1, 10:14: 'And the weight of the gold that was brought to Solomon every year, was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold'

We all have it in our right hand to spend, but not all of us have it as the main focus in our lives (in your forehead).

You cannot choose which parts to be literal (such as moon turning to blood) and which are symbolic. It is ALL symbolic.


quoting Little Star:

Yes, there is lots of symbolics in the bible. Very few get to understand them.

Blessings to all

[Love of] Money is the root of all evil!



It is the love of money that is the Mark - the metaphor of having the Mark in the Hand and the Head.
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