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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
 Australia
5/6/2007 7:04 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
New debate rages over 'Mormon massacre'
Throwing down the gauntlet June 22 is Christopher Cain’s movie, September Dawn, which will open that day in more than 1,000 theaters nationwide. Although the romantic storyline is fictional, the film claims to be historically accurate in tracing the massacre to Brigham Young and portraying 19th-century Mormons as obedient, bloodthirsty fundamentalists. In one scene, for instance, an angry mob ignores a report that the wagon train’s “gentiles” are friendly and chants for “blood atonement!” in the form of death.
[link to www.journalnow.com]
Mormons' darkest day in spotlight
The date was 11 September. A group carried out an act of religious terrorism on American soil, raining indiscriminate death on innocent people. It remains a scar on the country's collective memory.
This was the 'other' 11 September, in 1857, when fundamentalist Mormon settlers opened fire on a wagon train, leaving more than 120 men, women and children dead in a flowery field. The Mountain Meadows Massacre, which happened about 300 miles south of Salt Lake City in Utah, is an episode often left out of history books in Britain and even in the United States.
[link to observer.guardian.co.uk] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 7:05 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Latest Tally,,
Yes...........................224--- Inside Job.
Imbecile......................27
+
Paid stooge.................13 =
NO.............................40--- Osama Bin Boxcutter did
it with his artari joystick from his batcave, because he hates our freedoms under the patriot acts,, OR, Saddam did it, with his weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons and his yellowcake from Nigeria.
Don't know......3--- They think it might have been the tooth fairy or a leprecorn. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 7:07 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Rudy Guilliani ........ the temptation for another 911 event
But According to the new NEWSWEEK Poll, the public’s approval of Bush has sunk to 28 percent, an all-time low for this president . . . The last president to be this unpopular was Jimmy Carter who also scored a 28 percent approval in 1979.
This remarkably low rating seems to be casting a dark shadow over the GOP’s chances for victory in ’08. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 7:40 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Bill O'Reilly Threatens Rosie O'Donnell and Mickey Mouse
News Hounds
Saturday May 05, 2007
Bill O'Reilly simply can't let go and move on when it comes to Rosie O'Donnell. On Wednesday, 5/2, he ambushed Dennis Miller with some unexpected Rosie nonsense and last night he started a conversation with Jane Hall and Cal Thomas about Imus and ended up going after Rosie O'Donnell. This time he delivered an actual threat. 5/4/07
It seems O'Donnell and Behar mentioned the Indiana University study about Bor's gifts as a propagandist on The View. This probably forced him to address the study during his TPM which he might have ignored if it hadn't been exposed on network television. He issued this warning about putting a list of all the objectionable things she has ever said on the view.
"If Rosie O'Donnell keeps it up, I'm going to put a list on this show that will make your hair curl.If I put this on, ABC has a big problem."Claiming Rosie is more offensive than Imus, he accused her of being " anti-military, anti-men, anti-catholic,anti-christian."
Then he went after Disney saying O'Donnell's comments would " drop into the Magic Kingdom. Mickey Mouse's ears will be pinned back"
comment: I'm so disillusioned! Mickey Mouse is an American Icon and Bill O'Reilly wants to give him an ear job? . What will " the folks' think?
[link to infowars.net] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 8:50 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Windsor Building in Madrid burned for days and no collapse.
[link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 9:24 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"Yes the US invasion has accomplished something, sure: The number of terrorism incidents in Iraq skyrocketed from 2005 to 2006
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In 2006, 45% of all terrorist attacks worldwide took place in Iraq by · 5/01/2007 10:08:00 AM ET
A rather sobering statistic considering the terrorists weren't in Iraq until Bush invaded. More from the Washington Post:
In 2006, 45% of all terrorist attacks worldwide took place in Iraq
The number of terrorism incidents in Iraq -- and resulting deaths, injuries and kidnappings -- skyrocketed from 2005 to 2006, according to statistics released by U.S. counterterrorism officials yesterday.
Of the 14,338 reported terrorist attacks worldwide last year, 45 percent took place in Iraq, and 65 percent of the global fatalities stemming from terrorism occurred in Iraq. In 2005, Iraq accounted for 30 percent of the worldwide terrorist attacks.
Mission Accomplished! If you're Osama bin Laden."
Mission Accomplished. If your Israel attempting to destroy one of your enemies. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 9:30 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Halliburton Charged with (Accused of) Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran
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edit:
Have to address herewith the obviously incorrectly used word 'charged' in the title:
If you use eg a German-English dictionary 'charged' gives similar results as 'accused'.
That's possible where the misinterpretation comes from.
to charge: anlasten
to accuse: anlasten, lastete an, angelastet
Also from answers.com.
To charge:
9 - To make a claim of wrongdoing against; accuse or blame: The police charged him with car theft. Critics charged the writer with a lack of originality.
10 - To put the blame for; attribute or impute: charged the accident to the driver's inexperience.
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This company fed our soldiers bad food and tainted water etc...investigate, prosecute, imprison..
According to journalist Jason Leopold, sources at former Cheney company Halliburton allege that, as recently as January of 2005, Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company. Leopold says his Halliburton sources have intimate knowledge of the business dealings of both Halliburton and Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran’s largest private oil companies.
Additionally, throughout 2004 and 2005, Halliburton worked closely with Cyrus Nasseri, the vice chairman of the board of directors of Iran-based Oriental Oil Kish, to develop oil projects in Iran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran’s nuclear development team. Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July 2005 for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran’s nuclear secrets. Iranian government officials charged Nasseri with accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton for this information.
source:
[link to www.lookingglassnews.org]
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As the above link seems to have difficulties I post the whole story here:
Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran
Source:
Global Research.ca, August 5, 2005
Title: “Halliburton Secretly Doing Business With Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team”
Author: Jason Leopold
Faculty Evaluator: Catherine Nelson
Student Researchers: Kristine Medeiros and Pla Herr
According to journalist Jason Leopold, sources at former Cheney company Halliburton allege that, as recently as January of 2005, Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company. Leopold says his Halliburton sources have intimate knowledge of the business dealings of both Halliburton and Oriental Oil Kish, one of Iran’s largest private oil companies.
Additionally, throughout 2004 and 2005, Halliburton worked closely with Cyrus Nasseri, the vice chairman of the board of directors of Iran-based Oriental Oil Kish, to develop oil projects in Iran. Nasseri is also a key member of Iran’s nuclear development team. Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July 2005 for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran’s nuclear secrets. Iranian government officials charged Nasseri with accepting as much as $1 million in bribes from Halliburton for this information.
Oriental Oil Kish dealings with Halliburton first became public knowledge in January 2005 when the company announced that it had subcontracted parts of the South Pars gas-drilling project to Halliburton Products and Services, a subsidiary of Dallas-based Halliburton that is registered to the Cayman Islands. Following the announcement, Halliburton claimed that the South Pars gas field project in Tehran would be its last project in Iran. According to a BBC report, Halliburton, which took thirty to forty million dollars from its Iranian operations in 2003, “was winding down its work due to a poor business environment.”
However, Halliburton has a long history of doing business in Iran, starting as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company. Leopold quotes a February 2001 report published in the Wall Street Journal, “Halliburton Products and Services Ltd., works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai and is “non-American.” But like the sign over the receptionist’s head, the brochure bears the company’s name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world.” Moreover mail sent to the company’s offices in Tehran and the Cayman Islands is forwarded directly to its Dallas headquarters.
In an attempt to curtail Halliburton and other U.S. companies from engaging in business dealings with rogue nations such as Libya, Iran, and Syria, an amendment was approved in the Senate on July 26, 2005. The amendment, sponsored by Senator Susan Collins R-Maine, would penalize companies that continue to skirt U.S. law by setting up offshore subsidiaries as a way to legally conduct and avoid U.S. sanctions under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).
A letter, drafted by trade groups representing corporate executives, vehemently objected to the amendment, saying it would lead to further hatred and perhaps incite terrorist attacks on the U.S. and “greatly strain relations with the United States primary trading partners.” The letter warned that, “Foreign governments view U.S. efforts to dictate their foreign and commercial policy as violations of sovereignty often leading them to adopt retaliatory measures more at odds with U.S. goals.”
Collins supports the legislation, stating, “It prevents U.S. corporations from creating a shell company somewhere else in order to do business with rogue, terror-sponsoring nations such as Syria and Iran. The bottom line is that if a U.S. company is evading sanctions to do business with one of these countries, they are helping to prop up countries that support terrorism—most often aimed against America.
UPDATE BY JASON LEOPOLD
During a trip to the Middle East in March 1996, Vice President Dick Cheney told a group of mostly U.S. businessmen that Congress should ease sanctions in Iran and Libya to foster better relationships, a statement that, in hindsight, is completely hypocritical considering the Bush administration’s foreign policy.
“Let me make a generalized statement about a trend I see in the U.S. Congress that I find disturbing, that applies not only with respect to the Iranian situation but a number of others as well,” Cheney said. “I think we Americans sometimes make mistakes . . . There seems to be an assumption that somehow we know what’s best for everybody else and that we are going to use our economic clout to get everybody else to live the way we would like.”
Cheney was the chief executive of Halliburton Corporation at the time he uttered those words. It was Cheney who directed Halliburton toward aggressive business dealings with Iran—in violation of U.S. law—in the mid-1990s, which continued through 2005 and is the reason Iran has the capability to enrich weapons-grade uranium. It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.
If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.
But this shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone who has been following Halliburton’s business activities over the past decade. The company has a long, documented history of violating U.S. sanctions and conducting business with so-called rogue nations.
No, what’s disturbing about these facts is how little attention it has received from the mainstream media. But the public record speaks for itself, as do the thousands of pages of documents obtained by various federal agencies that show how Halliburton’s business dealings in Iran helped fund terrorist activities there—including the country’s nuclear enrichment program.
When I asked Wendy Hall, a spokeswoman for Halliburton, a couple of years ago if Halliburton would stop doing business with Iran because of concerns that the company helped fund terrorism she said, “No.” “We believe that decisions as to the nature of such governments and their actions are better made by governmental authorities and international entities such as the United Nations as opposed to individual persons or companies,” Hall said. “Putting politics aside, we and our affiliates operate in countries to the extent it is legally permissible, where our customers are active as they expect us to provide oilfield services support to their international operations. “We do not always agree with policies or actions of governments in every place that we do business and make no excuses for their behaviors. Due to the long-term nature of our business and the inevitability of political and social change, it is neither prudent nor appropriate for our company to establish our own country-by-country foreign policy.”
Halliburton first started doing business in Iran as early as 1995, while Vice President Cheney was chief executive of the company and in possible violation of U.S. sanctions.
An executive order signed by former President Bill Clinton in March 1995 prohibits “new investments (in Iran) by U.S. persons, including commitment of funds or other assets.” It also bars U.S. companies from performing services “that would benefit the Iranian oil industry” and provide Iran with the financial means to engage in terrorist activity.
When Bush and Cheney came into office in 2001, their administration decided it would not punish foreign oil and gas companies that invest in those countries. The sanctions imposed on countries like Iran and Libya before Bush became president were blasted by Cheney, who gave frequent speeches on the need for U.S. companies to compete with their foreign competitors, despite claims that those countries may have ties to terrorism.
“I think we’d be better off if we, in fact, backed off those sanctions (on Iran), didn’t try to impose secondary boycotts on companies . . . trying to do business over there . . . and instead started to rebuild those relationships,” Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia’s Illawarra Mercury newspaper.
Light Warriors Rule!..
i remember when the Us goverment and Donald dumbsfield gave chemical waepons to Saddam when he was fighting Iran. i remember when the US goverment and the CIA provided weapons and traning to Bin laden for more than a decade. The Us goverment has been providing weapons of mass destruction to israel for decades..
The obvious question. Why does the US goverment support terrorists? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 9:42 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
This is similar to the crimes of the bushnazi Prescott Bush who was found guilty of trading with enemy during WWII.
Typical pattern of treason. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 9:44 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Re: Halliburton Charged with (Accused of) Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran Quote
This is similar to when Rumsfield and Cheney sold Saddam Hussien the chemical weapons to use in the war against the Iranians, so later knowing he had them they used that excuse as a pretense to invade. Saddam was smart enough to either get rid of them or move them out the country before the invasion.
Now we have a Cheney connected company selling items that would clearly be against current laws so that later they can claim they are trying to build a bomb...
No different than the FBI planning then giving the explosives to the patsies the first time the WTC was bombed. Who was blamed..? Who was not investigated..? |
| destiny observer
User ID: 94505
 United States
5/6/2007 9:54 AM
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"Yes" I always watch what follows when happening happen. What followed, President Bush started the War in Iraq. Any dummy can figure that out. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 10:06 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
More archive video footage has been unearthed that re-emphasizes the fact that President Bush lied about how he first came to know about the events of September 11, 2001.
Watch this clip from ABC from 7 minutes in:
[link to www.youtube.com]
ABC News reporter John Cochran told ABC's Peter Jennings, "He got out of his hotel suite this morning, was about to leave, reporters saw the White House chief of staff Andy Card whisper into his ear, then reporters said to the President 'do you know what's going on in New York'? - he said he did and would have something to say about it later."
This contradicts Bush's statement that he made on two separate occasions, that he first learned of what was going on in New York from watching a television outside of the classroom as he prepared to talk about education with a group of Florida schoolchildren.
President Bush Holds Town Hall Meeting
[CNN, Aired December 4, 2001]
QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?
BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)
Thank you, Jordan (ph).
Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."
But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."
Obviously, Bush could not have seen the first plane hit the tower because there was no TV footage broadcast of it until the next day.
Occasion 2:
President Holds Town Hall Forum on Economy in California
[whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]
"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..."
As has been well publicized, even after being told of the second plane hitting the south tower and that America was under attack, Bush sat reading a story about a pet goat for well over 5 minutes.
[link to www.youtube.com]
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 232749
Bush watched a live feed of the impact of the first plane in his limo on the way to the florida school. This live feed was provided by moosad. The live recordings of the first impact were made by the five dancing israelis, which were feed directly to mooosad headquarters in israel, then relayed to Bushes limo why it was on route to the school. Bush told the truth, partly. He did watch it live. The goat is a satanic symble. That is why Bush was reading a book on pet goats. The freakmasons were sticking it in your face and rubbing your noses in it. They bought in the patriot acts to rake away Bin boxcutters freedoms, but it is only US citizens who bend over at airports whilst the mexicons and terrorits just stroll in via the unprotected Mexicon border.. Now that's funny. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 10:14 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
 
Latest Tally,,
Yes...........................225--- Inside Job.
Imbecile......................27
+
Paid stooge.................13 =
NO.............................40--- Osama Bin Boxcutter did
it with his artari joystick from his batcave, because he hates our freedoms under the patriot acts,, OR, Saddam did it, with his weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons and his yellowcake from Nigeria.
Don't know......3--- They think it might have been the tooth fairy or a leprecorn. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 11:07 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
The five dancing Isreali mooosad agents fresses up as Arabs on 911. They formed a terrorist cell called i'll Kidya.
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| Michael K.
User ID: 232968
 Germany
5/6/2007 11:07 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 11:38 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
911, the false flag special, the inside job, used to commence the antichrist's never ending war of terror and never ending war on the constitution and your god given freedoms via the patriot acts.
When Bin boxcutter found out that the antichrist had signed into law the patriot acts to take away his freedoms, Bin boxcutter could not stop laughing, and laughed himself to death. |
| Michael K.
User ID: 232968
Germany
5/6/2007 11:41 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 231922
United States
5/6/2007 11:42 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
DEFINATELY YES! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 9:44 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Re: BUSH TOLD OF FIRST ATTACK ON 9/11 BEFORE HE LEFT FLORIDA HOTEL Quote
Bush’s own recollection of the first crash only complicates the picture. Less than two months after the attacks, Bush made the preposterous claim that he had watched the first attack as it happened on live television. This is the seventh different account of how Bush learned about the first crash (in his limousine, from Loewer, from Card, from Rove, from Gottesman, from Rice, from television). On December 4, 2001, Bush was asked: “How did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?” Bush replied, “I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower—the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there’s one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there, I didn’t have much time to think about it.” [White House, 12/4/01]
There was no film footage of the first attack until at least the following day, and Bush didn’t have access to a television until 15 or so minutes later. [Washington Times, 10/7/02] The Boston Herald later noted, “Think about that. Bush’s remark implies he saw the first plane hit the tower. But we all know that video of the first plane hitting did not surface until the next day. Could Bush have meant he saw the second plane hit—which many Americans witnessed? No, because he said that he was in the classroom when Card whispered in his ear that a second plane hit.” [Boston Herald, 10/22/02] Bush’s recollection has many precise details. Is he simply confused? It’s doubly strange why his advisors didn’t correct him or—at the very least—stop him from repeating the same story only four weeks later. [White House, 1/5/02, CBS, 9/11/02] On January 5, 2002, Bush stated: “Well, I was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida… and my Chief of Staff – well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the plane…” [White House, 1/5/02]
Unfortunately, Bush has never been asked—not even once—to explain these statements. His memory not only contradicts every single media report, it also contradicts what he said that evening. In his speech to the nation that evening, Bush said: “Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government’s emergency response plans.” [White House, 9/11/01] It’s not known what these emergency plans were, because neither Bush nor anyone in his administration mentioned this immediate response again. Implementing “emergency response plans” seems to completely contradict Bush’s “by the way” recollection of a small airplane accident.
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[link to www.cooperativeresearch.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 92609
 Canada
5/6/2007 9:45 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
A PAINFULLY obvious YES! How can anyone deny it? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 10:35 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Latest Tally,,
Yes...........................228--- Inside Job.
Imbecile......................27
+
Paid stooge.................13 =
NO.............................40--- Osama Bin Boxcutter did
it with his artari joystick from his batcave, because he hates our freedoms under the patriot acts,, OR, Saddam did it, with his weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons and his yellowcake from Nigeria.
Don't know......3--- They think it might have been the tooth fairy or a leprecorn.
The five dancing Isreali mooosad agents dressed up as Arabs on 911 as they filmed the first plane strike the WTC and broke out in uncontrollable celebrations. They made up a mooosad cell called I'll Kidya.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/6/2007 10:49 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
To All Patriots... God's Speed...
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U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career said the following:
"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....
Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career, believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...
Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.
If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....
Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."
Former army captain and intelligence officer said this:
"As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril...
Now I view the 911 event . . . as a matter that implies either
A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...
B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/7/2007 12:29 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
BUSH Surge Slaughter ... -
11 GIs, journalist die in Iraq; torture chamber found
POSTED: 2146 GMT (0546 HKT), May 6, 2007
Story Highlights
• NEW: Sunday toll for U.S. soldiers climbs to 11
• 24 American service members died in Iraq in the first week of May
[link to edition.cnn.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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5/7/2007 12:34 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
the world's greatest air and space power -- mozel, 12:02:52 05/06/07 Sun
NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. -- 5/3/2007 -- The Air Force's first
unmanned aircraft systems wing stood up May 1 at Creech Air Force Base, Nev.
As Col. Christopher Chambliss assumed command of the 432nd, a piece of
history was revived and a course for the way ahead continued.
"This is a monumental day for the Air Force," said Colonel Chambliss.
"Having a wing dedicated to unmanned aircraft systems is a logical and
important step in continuing the Air Force's role in being the world's
greatest air and space power, and is equally critical to the Air Force's
most important customers, the American warfighters." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 230566
Australia
5/7/2007 3:04 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
There is only ONE CURTAIN, the ash.can.nazi JEW curtain,
ROTHSCHILD JEWISH INTERNATIONAL BANKING CRIMINAL CARTEL!
(and all their cohorts, tools and useful idiots)
Take a look below for the complete answers to 911.
HISTORICAL precedents:
ZIONISM AND WORLD WAR I:
Late 1800's zionism movement.
1) "dancing"israelis,with arab clothes, "high-fiving", and "celebrating"
2) Have primary motive
fact is that certain elements within the Israeli government, and Zionist movement in general, have a long history of attacking the USA and framing Arabs in order to gain support from the US.
3) secondary motive
4) numerous precedents
5) logistical capability
6) ability to cover-up
7) the power to ruin the careers of US Congressmen
8) the power to advance the careers of those who serve their interests.
9) Zionists benifit.
Arabs suffer.
10) numerous lies linking Arabs to 9-11.
11) The information IS there for all who want to see it, the problem I think is that people don't want to see it, because it would mean that they would have to leave the Matrix, so to speak.
People want to hide in thier patriotic fantasies, it is not until the opression comes to their own door that they will wake up.
Unfortunatly, it will be too late by then.
14) PROOF OF THERMITE USE:
Thermite melting the corner steel moments before the collapse of the WTC tower.
A) [link to youtube.com]
THERMITE EXPERIMENTS:
B) [link to youtube.com]
C) 1-HR VIDEO FROM GUBA.COM
[link to www.guba.com]
15) "Officials at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks"
Israeli security services were contacted and the FBI was informed. Nothing has been heard about this event since. I think it's safe to say that "Islamic terrorists" would not have been considerate enough to send detailed E-mail warnings to some obscure Israeli office workers.
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Let us review what we have learned. We have clearly established that Zionists played a key role in steering the US into two World Wars. We have clearly established that Zionists do not care if Americans (or others) are killed to further their goals. We have clearly established that Zionists have a record of attacking Americans in order to frame Arabs. We have established that the Zionists are capable of acts of unspeakable brutality and genocide. We have established that US politicians fear the Zionist Mafia and defy them at their own peril. We have learned that warnings of a suicidal hijacking plot were issued to several people. And most importantly of all, we have clearly established that the Zionists have the capacity to make these amazing stories suddenly disappear from their controlled news media.
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16)Having established these precedents, we can now easily deduce that the reason why those five dancing Israeli agents who celebrated the 9-11 attacks were so happy is because they knew that Americans would now become unconditional supporters of their "Israeli ally" and fanatical haters of Muslims and Arabs. On the day of the attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"
17) "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." 58 The police and FBI field agents became really suspicious when they found box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives.
18) An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the Bergen Record that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were all joking about the attacks. The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me."
19) A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stuck in storage facilities. 61 The five Israeli army veterans (Mossad) were held in custody for several months before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days.
20) the Zionist controlled media was filled with stories linking the attacks to Bin Laden.
We were told that the reason Bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy".
The Muslims were "medieval" and they wanted to destroy us because of our wealth.
21) Bin Laden strongly denied any role:
"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks....
22) clues conveniently left:
A) a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan.
B) Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training manual was found inside the car.
C) The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center!
It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden.
Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well.
This opens up a whole Pandora’s box of unanswered questions. First and foremost of which is this: why would Osama Bin laden, the Saudi Arabian caveman, steal identities? To cover his tracks you say? Next question: why would a Saudi Arabian, attempting to cover his tracks, steal the identities of....fellow Saudi Arabians??? What would be the point? Why go you through the trouble of stealing identities that would point back to you? Why not steal Greek identities, or Brazilian identities, or Turkish ones? A much more logical conclusion is that non-Arabs stole these identities as part of a "false flag" operation designed to point the blame at Arabs, and Saudi Arabs in particular.
SOURCE, all the PROOF YOU NEED HERE:
[link to www.apfn.org]
The Interview with
Harold Wallace Rosenthal,
All you ignorant goys and jews need to get with it,
scary stuff, read:
[link to iamthewitness.com]
1) Benjamin Freedman
2) Samuel Untermyer
3) Myron Fagan
All jews that have turned on their zionist bretherns, read:
[link to iamthewitness.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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Australia
5/7/2007 3:08 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Re: Italian TV covers the WTC-7 fraud -- excellent job! Quote
THE HIDDEN TYRANNY
The Issue that Dwarfs All Other Issues,
[link to iamthewitness.com]
The names of Presidents Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F.Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon will certainly be found one day inscribed in big red letters in the official annals of the rise and fall of the United states.
These seven masters of deception incurred their guilt by debasing their solemn oaths of office on behalf of undisclosed domestic and foreign principals without any apparent qualms or misgivings, to enhance their political fortunes totally oblivious of the threat to United States security and survival.
These seven masters of deception knowingly and willingly in effect and in fact "poisoned the wells" of security and survival for the United States. Without any evident scruples, they individually betrayed the sacred traditions enshrined in the letter and spirit of their oaths of office, that precious heritage bequeathed to each of these seven masters of deception as successors to that high office exalted by the immortalized first president of the United States, the venerated George Washington.
The disclosures which follow here are now revealed for the first time anywhere. They now expose for the first time to the grass roots population of the United States the secret un-American, non- American and anti-American strategy to which these seven masters of deception knowingly subscribed. The uninhibited practice of that strategy by these seven masters of deception is primarily responsible for desperate predicament in which the United States today finds itself in the Middle East.
Very early in their political careers, these seven masters of deception by their determination acquired their proficient skill in detecting on which side their political bread was buttered. Their remarkable perfection in that skill provides the answer to why these seven masters of deception went so far and so fast in so few years in the political world in which they moved.
Throughout their political careers these seven masters of deception demonstrated that political shrewdness invariably identified with the immoral dogma of 20th century politicians who preach and practice "any means justifies all ends." Accordingly, future grass roots populations of the United States will one day find inscribed in the history of the rise and fall of the United States the verdict that the "means" today advocated by these seven masters of deception were primarily responsible for the "end" of the United States.
It is today a well recognized fact of life in political circles in the United States that the censorship exercised today by Zionists over the media for mass information constitutes a virtual monopoly. It is likewise today a well recognized fact of life in political circles in the United States since President Wilson won his first election in 1912 as president of the United States, that elections in the United States are seldom won or lost today based upon the candidates' qualification for office.
Elections in the United States since 1912 are won or lost on the battlefields of the media for mass information by character assassination. Zionist ownership of media for mass information, or by Zionist control exercised by some devious corporate device in effect and in fact censors the news and editorial policies of as the leading daily and Sunday newspapers, all the weekly and monthly news magazines, all leading radio and television stations and networks, the entire motion picture industry, the entire entertainment world and the entire book publishing industry, in effect and in fact the entire complex of media for mass information in the United States, truly a brainwashing monopoly.
Talmudist Jews Control News and editorial Policies of Mass Media:
(read to be informed!):
[link to iamthewitness.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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Australia
5/7/2007 7:26 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Latest Tally,,
Yes...........................228--- Inside Job.
Imbecile......................27
+
Paid stooge.................13 =
NO.............................40--- Osama Bin Boxcutter did
it with his artari joystick from his batcave, because he hates our freedoms under the patriot acts,, OR, Saddam did it, with his weapons of mass destruction, chemical weapons and his yellowcake from Nigeria.
Don't know......3--- They think it might have been the tooth fairy or a leprecorn.
The five dancing Isreali mooosad agents dressed up as Arabs on 911 as they filmed the first plane strike the WTC and broke out in uncontrollable celebrations. They made up a mooosad cell called I'll Kidya.
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| Anonymous Coward
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Australia
5/7/2007 10:09 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Video Exposing Blunders of 9/11 Commission Report Airs on New Zealand Television
Controversial September 11th documentary exposing inconsistencies and contradictions in the 9/11 Commission Report erupts onto New Zealand television. This recent national airing of "In Plane Site" on New Zealand television represents a historic turning point in the global collective consciousness regarding the terrorist attacks of September 11.
Columbia, MO (PRWEB) December 23, 2006 -- On December 16, 2006, while most Americans slept, Television 3 New Zealand debuted the provocative documentary "911 In Plane Site" on national television. The film presents photographs and video footage from that fateful day, as well as computer-aided analysis focusing on the Pentagon and World Trade Center buildings One, Two and Seven. Also examined are dozens of independent and mainstream media news reports from the morning of September 11 that highlight inconsistencies and contradictions in the "official" account.
Saturday night's national airing of "In Plane Site" on New Zealand television represents a historic turning point in the global collective consciousness regarding the terrorist attacks of September 11. After all, it was only months after the second national airing of "In Plane Site" on Australia's Network 10, which kicked off a firestorm of debate leading to Federal Labor politician Michael Danby's demand that the programming director of Network 10 be fired for airing the program. Mr. Danby said that September 11 victims had been killed twice -- once by the terrorists and once by Ten. However, Mr. Danby's highly publicized comments did not seem to dissuade worldwide public interest, as a spokesman for Network 10 stated that a unified public reaction to the film had generated a massive wave of phone calls to station operators praising the network for its airing of the program.
Producer Dave vonKleist says that support for the documentary remains a global phenomenon. The international news program Out There Television was the first syndication to take the controversial film into 31 countries in a single airing. The internationally available Namaste Magazine has made the documentary available to those in Europe since its release in mid-2004. Nexus Magazine, also internationally available, has been a continued advocate, as well as other organizations in North and South America, Europe and Asia.
Shining the torch of truth to Spanish speaking nations is outspoken World Trade Center survivor, William Rodriguez. Rodriguez was the last person to escape the World Trade Center buildings before they collapsed and was witness to a deafening and massive explosion, which seemed to emanate from between sub-basement B2 and B3 of Two World Trade Center moments before UAL Flight 175 struck the tower. He believes to this day that explosives were utilized in the demolition-style, pancake collapse of both World Trade Center towers.
Commenting on some of the video evidence, which is contained in "911 In Plane Site," NASA engineers Jim LeGarde and Dale Carros, in a recent interview at the National Press Club in Washington D.C., called into question the integrity of the 9/11 Commission Report by drawing attention to the fact that World Trade Center Towers One and Two collapsed into themselves much faster than basic physics will allow, when taking into account the physical resistance forces that are present with any building collapse. Adding confirmation to this heated controversy, Van Romero, an explosives expert and former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at New Mexico Tech, said on September 11, 2001, "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse." Mr. Romero's comments have been widely censored in the U.S. press.
The curiosity surrounding the video and photographic images seen and discussed in the documentary has led to its mass airing in both public and private venues in the United States. It has also led to scathing criticism and rebuttal from U.S. mainstream media sources, including FOX News journalist Geraldo Rivera, syndicated talk show host Glenn Beck, CNN's Anderson Cooper and Popular Mechanics magazine. To date, no U.S. based news program has aired the documentary in its entirety.
For more information relating to the groundbreaking footage contained in this film, please visit the producer's website: www.911inplanesite.com. |
| Anonymous Coward
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Australia
5/7/2007 10:17 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
More holes in US electronic security
The story on Israeli spying inside the focused on three companies, Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for most American phone companies, Comverse Infosys, which installs and mainstains telephone tapping equipment for US law enforcement, and Odigo, which provides services for the various "Instant Message" systems on your computer. All three companies are owned by Israel and have strong ties to the Israeli Defense Force.
Both Amdocs and Comverse Infosys were implicated in the sale of telephone data which compromised US investigations into drug running, and Comverse Infosys phone taps are suspected of being the means by which Bill Clinton's phone sex sessions were recorded, as reported in the Ken Starr Report. Odigo, which had offices near the World Trade Towers, is the company which received a two hour advance warning of the attacks of 9-11.
Now, in a chilling real life version of the plotline from "The Net", it turns out that the majority of the firewalls on US corporate and government computer systems are provided by just one company, Checkpoint Systems, which like Amdocs, Comverse Infosys, and Odigo, is headquartered in Israel. |
| Anonymous Coward
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5/7/2007 10:20 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
The Israeli Spy Ring
ALL LINKS TO CARL CAMERON'S FOX NEWS STORY ON THE ISRAELI SPY RING HAVE BEEN REMOVED AT THE EXPRESS REQUEST OF FOX NEWS.
"Israel does not spy on the United States of America."
-- Mark Regev, a spokesman at the Israeli embassy in Washington
Prior to 9/11, the FBI had discovered the presence of a massive spy ring inside the United States run by the government of Israel. This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year. Over the years, American taxpayers have been required to send Israel more than four times what the US spent to go to the moon.
What Israel has done in return was to set up government subsidized telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs' main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call "traffic analysis"; a picture of someone's activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when. Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only. However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well. Yet another Israeli telecom company is Odigo, which provides the core message passing system for all the "Instant Message" services. Two hours before the attacks on the World Trade Towers, Odigo employees received a warning. Odigo has an office 2 blocks from the former location of the World Trade Towers. "I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now."
-- Senator Graham as quoted in Senator: At Least One Foreign Country Assisted the 9/11 Terrorists
Let us be clear here. There is nothing benign about Israel spying on the United States. When Jonathan Pollard stole our nuclear secrets (which your taxes paid to develop) and sent them to Israel, Israel did not hesitate to trade those secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas.
The implication of these facts is that the billions of our tax dollars sent to Israel (while women and children sleep in America's alleys and eat out of trash bins) have bought and paid for a monstrous phone tracking and phone tapping system that can eavesdrop on almost any phone call in America. Even the White House phones were open to such tapping by listening in on the other end outside the White House itself.
This actually happened. The Ken Starr report on Whitewater describes how Bill Clinton informed Monica Lewinsky that their phone sex conversations had been recorded. At the same time, Clinton ordered the FBI to cease the hunt for an Israeli mole known to be operating inside the White House itself!
So here we have a foreign nation able to listen in on most phones at will, using taps that cannot be found because they are built into the phone system itself, and willing to use the information gleaned from those calls to blackmail Americans into any desired course of action. This may well be what Ariel Sharon meant when he stated that the Jewish people control America.
That the information gleaned from these phone taps is being used to coerce the behavior of key individuals in the US Government and media is illustrated by the manner in which the government and the media have handled this scandal of the largest spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, and of phone taps on all of our phones. They are downplaying it. Actually, burying it is a better word.
Fox News, alone of all the media, actually ran the story as a four part broadcast, and put the story up on its web site. Then, without explanation, Fox News erased the story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by "Orwellizing" their report of the two hour advance warning of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.
"Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide."
-- Carl Cameron, as quoted in The Spies Who Came In From The Art Sale
Since then, any and all mention of the Israeli spy ring and phone tapping scandal has resulted in a barrage of shrill screams of "hate" and "anti-Semite", two well worn and frankly over used devices to try to silence discussion on any topic unfavorable to the nation which owns the spy ring in question.
The story of the uncovering of the largest spy ring ever discovered inside the United States should be the story of the century, if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people. That this spy ring helped drug smugglers evade investigators should be a major scandal, if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people. That the spy ring includes companies able to track and tap into any phone in America, including the White House, should be a cause celebre', if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people.
But they are not. The media is trying to bury this story. They are spiking it, erasing it from their web sites in a chilling real-life Orwellian rewriting of history.
The actions of the US media are those of people trying to protect this spy ring and those that the spy ring worked for. "While I agree with you, if I say anything about US geopolitical interests with Israel, I might as well clean off my desk."
-- Unnamed reporter as quoted in American Media Censorship and Israel
The actions of the US media are those of traitors to the American people. |
| Anonymous Coward
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Australia
5/7/2007 10:21 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Isn't it interesting to note below that the "dancing" Israeli Mossad intelligence agents (who celebrated with each other and videotaped each other in the process with the World Trade Center burning in the background) were indeed Mossad agents as the article from the Jewish "Forward" magazine (out of New York) conveys below (as the JINSA Zionist extremists worked hard for their release, it would not be surprising if the JINSA Zionists had an association with these Mossad agents prior to the tragic World Trade Center attack in order to get their war on Islam agenda underway which will come soon with the coming invasion of Iraq which the radical JINSA Zionists have wanted for years):
[link to www.forward.com] |
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