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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 2:44 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Can the DVD be made available?
Is there any reason why an ISO image of the DVD can't be made available via bittorrent?
WMV and Flash formats suck for a frame-by-frame analysis of the videos.
In case anyone hasn't downloaded it yet the WMV of the WTC7 implosion has been posted to UK Indymedia:
9/11: New Footage of the Implosion of WTC7
[link to www.indymedia.org.uk]
Direct link to the 11M WMV: [link to www.indymedia.org.uk]
Also the videos and the information about the source could be posted to Wikileaks: [link to wikileaks.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 3:09 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
when I refer to the tribe, it is a reference to the :
talmudists/ radical zionists of the Khazar/ Ashkenazi tribes/ Lucifer's masons ...which make up many of the " bad Jewish lines"
these tribe members do not practice the same ideas of good jews..they practice love of money/ ower useary, talmudist religous text ,etc....
Hitler was one of them...he had blood ties to the Khazar/ Ashkenazi tribe ...
look - NAZI - AshkeNAZI tribe
see the link ?
this bloodline has ties from the areas of Khazaria..
the monopolizers of our fedral reserve/ banking is one of them = Rothchilds
this TRIBE is the major string pullers in the U.S and our governmental decisions/ intimidations...
and YES...they are also tied in with the corruptions of the Vatican, Black pope, pope, jessuits, etc...
think of it as one big cluster fuck of evil , that tries to remain hidden, or operates under the illusions of goodness, and religion.....
when the reality is, these fuckers are about as moral, and holy as Satan.
not only are they powerful , but very wise and cunning...
they also like to use symbols and gestures to acknowledge their tribe connections/ support....Via things like special hand gestures or satanic, ritualized/ CULT LIKE symbols...
one example :
did you ever notice the photo op of Bush exactly during the 9-11 attacks ?
do you remember what book he was holding ?
My pet goat ....
goats and goatheads are symbols for this cultlike and evil tribe....just like they are symbols in satanic rituals....
you will often find, that many tribe members/ supporters use such symbols and even online, in chat forums, when I usually see posters whi have this in their user profile / picture, I can bet they will be tribe supporters.
now, one may ask, why would the tribe supporters/ members use these types of symbols, which risk giving away their idnetitys, agendas ?
well, the answer is simple....its a game of sorts, in that the tribe knows how fucking dumb and non perceptive the goys and most of society is....and they know these symbols and recognizition games go totally unnoticed by non tribe members..
yes, the tribe is evil, racists, immoral and loves money /power...BUT, they also have a sick sense of humor ! lol |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 7:54 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Comedian G W Bush — speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 9:52 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
An impressive, if small, group of lawyers has signed a petition calling for 9/11 truth at a new website called Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, at [link to www.L911T.com.]
If you know any judges, law professors or attorneys open to 9/11 truth, send them that way.
Here's what their home page says:
Lawyers for 9/11 Truth
Why Lawyers for 9/11 Truth?
Lawyers are trained to value the Constitution and the rule of law.
We are trained to examine evidence and to spot cover-ups or inconsistencies in the evidence and bias in witnesses or decision-makers.
Attorneys are also experts in weighing conflicting evidence.
For all of the above reasons, many lawyers have concluded that the 9/11 Commission and other government examinations were wholly inadequate, and did not follow proper rules of evidence or procedure.
We are demanding an end to the 9/11 cover-up, and a full investigation by unbiased people with subpoena power . . . and the courage to demand that the Constitution and rule of law are followed, and all guilty persons held accountable for their actions.
Petition
The following legal scholars, judges and attorneys demand an end to the 9/11 cover-up, a new, full and unbiased investigation, and punishment of all guilty parties:
Robert Moore.
Dr. William Pepper.
Dr. Pepper is a barrister in the United Kingdom and admitted to the bar in numerous jurisdictions in the United States of America. His primary work is international commercial law. Pepper has represented governments in the Middle East, Africa, South America, and Asia. Pepper is heavily involved in Human Rights Law, for a time convening the International Human Rights Seminar at Oxford University, during which time individuals such as Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela, accepted invitations to address the seminar. Today, Pepper represents Sirhan Sirhan, the gunman convicted of assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy in June 1968. Pepper was the attorney for James Earl Ray, the convicted killer of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., some years after King's death. Pepper then represented the King family in a wrongful death civil trial. On December 8, 1999, the Memphis jury found took less than an hour to find in favor of the King family.
Earl Staelin
Trial lawyer. Former Instructor in Law, University of Toledo College of Law.
William Veale.
Bill Veale is a former instructor of Criminal Trial Practice at Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley, with an 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career.
Burns H. Weston.
Professor Weston is the Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law.
To contact Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, or to add your name to the petition, you can write to us at Email @ L911T.com (without any spaces).
[link to www.911blogger.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 9:53 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
(Excellent graphic!!) I am thrilled to see this landmark.
I love seeing this...it breaks ground, carving a new foundation for 9/11 Truth. I will continue mailing DVD-info packs to judges, DA's, public defenders, attorneys, etc. I have already mailed out hundreds of pieces. [link to tellstruth.webs.com]
QUOTE BY WILLIAM PEPPER
"It is you who are the torch-bearers with respect to that truth. And you have to continue to bear that torch and try to get it into the mainstream, and not be discouraged when you don’t…."
"...I ask you not to mourn the passing of democracy and of liberty in this country…don’t mourn the passing of democracy – Organize. Organize to restore it wherever it is possible to do so. STEEL YOUR SPINES. Inspire your children! Then when the moment is right, rise again as though from the ashes, and rebuild this great land. Thank you." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 9:56 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Wisdom
Patience comes hand in hand with our movement.
There ARE 911 Truthers deep deep within the "Military Industrial Complex"
ALL the alphabet agencies. NSA, CIA, FBI , NRO, DIA etc.
We have friends in places many people cannot even imagine or fathom.
Some of the efforts behind the scenes are now coming to the surface.
Notice the timing.
Patience, Endurance.
From Dwight D. Eisenhower's warnings of the Military Industrial Complex to the pre-emptive hints of the Lone Gunman episode - people have warned us.
Now as the masses awaken to the reality of the New World Order
[link to www.youtube.com]
Expect Results.
We ARE winning.
This is the next stage of a long battle.
Our STRENGTH is in our Preserverance AND Endurance.
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
Submitted by constitutional911 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:00 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
And Firemen for 9/11 Truth,
And Firemen for 9/11 Truth, First Responders for 9/11 Truth, Doctors for 9/11 Truth, Artists for 9/11 Truth, Moms for 9/11 Truth, Deadheads for 9/11 Truth, John Mayer or Dave Matthews Band Fans for 9/11 Truth . . .
All sorts of groups can and should be created to provide for a broad coalition . . . that someday will be able to better organize the grassroots' efforts to take it to the next level . . . to a Congress that listens to the people . . .
A slow road to 9/11truth, but it can happen with patience and persistence.
I have the rest of my life to do this. (Hope that was not a kanahura.)
"Can't we just all go out and say things are OK?" -- President Bush, to congressional leaders during bailout negotiations - September 26, 2008 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:03 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Um, Betsy. Did you not know?
Firefighters for 9-11 Truth
[link to www.firefightersfor911truth.org]
Firefighters for 9-11 Truth is a non-partisan association of firefighters and affiliates created to increase awareness, provide public education, demand a real investigation that follows National Standards, and provide support to our Brothers and Sisters in need. We are deeply troubled by the “official” story, and the way the rescue workers from Ground Zero are being forgotten.
We believe there is overwhelming evidence of obstruction of justice, and destruction of evidence voiced even by numerous 9/11 Commissioners themselves. Senator Cleland resigned from the Commission stating, “This investigation is now compromised.”
NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) 921, which is the National Standard for Fire and Explosion Investigations, very clearly indicates in numerous sections that the possibility of explosives should have been thoroughly investigated. Specifically in NFPA 921 18.3.2 High Order Damage - “High-order damage is characterized by shattering of the structure, producing small, pulverized debris. Walls, roofs, and structural members are splintered or shattered, with the building completely demolished. Debris is thrown great distances, possibly hundreds of feet. High-order damage is the result of rapid rates of pressure rise.” World Trade Center’s 1, 2, and 7 all clearly met this definition; therefore they should have been thoroughly investigated and analyzed for explosives. Specifically, the use of “exotic accelerants” should have been investigated. In NFPA 921 19.2.4 -”Exotic Accelerants,” three indicators were clearly met that should have led to a thorough investigation in to the possible use of “exotic accelerants,” specifically as stated in the guideline, “Thermite mixtures.”
So, why was the possibility of explosives, controlled demolition, or the use of “exotic accelerants” not thoroughly investigated, or even mentioned in the 9-11 Commission Report?
Firefighters for 9-11 Truth demand the following:
A truly independent investigation with Subpoena and Contempt Powers to uncover the complete truth of the events related to 9/11/2001 – specifically the collapse of WTC Tower 7 and the possibility of explosive demolition.
The investigation to follow the national standards so clearly outlined in the National Fire Protection Association guidelines, specifically, NFPA 921 to include thorough analysis of the steel for the presence of “exotic accelerants.”
Congress to honor the promises made to the rescue workers of 9/11 by passing the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008.
Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the planning, and execution of the murders committed on September 11, 2001.
Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the Obstruction of Justice and Destruction of Evidence surrounding the events of September 11, 2001.
We challenge you to look at the evidence with an open mind and make judgments. Remember, you don’t have to be an expert to sit on a jury, and you have the right to be critical of, and demand answers from the “experts.” Take the time to gather facts, and have the courage to ask for more. If you come to the same conclusion as the FBI, and don’t place him on your “most wanted” list, then have the courage to help find those responsible for the death of so many of our Brothers and Sisters. We all need to show some courage by demanding answers, justice, and fair treatment for the Ground Zero Rescue Workers!!
--
"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Dir. Bldg. & Fire Research Lab. (NIST)
"We are [still] unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse." (NIST) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:06 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Unfortunately, the way we're going
I don't think we have the rest of our lives to work on this. Unless B.O. restores the constitution, we are still in danger at any time of being declared terrorists and locked up indefinitely, our rights as citizens gone as we are declared "enemy combatants."
Why did they build a police state so steadily and carefully? Surely because they plan to use it.
I feel great urgency about getting the word out. I think the window of time wherein we have free speech will not last forever.
And I take no joy in Obama's rise to power. He was put in that position to do the bidding of the elite.
Submitted by Sheila |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:07 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
police for 911truth
working on it. love to connect with any individuals who can help network
Police for 911 truth would be doubly valuable because not only were police lost in the tower collapse and from being first responders, but they would be called upon in the event of martial law OR any abuse of civil liberties.
davidslesinger@yahoo.com |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:08 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
God answers Prayers.
What can I say?
Excellent. For those who believe in the power of prayer, believe that IT WORKS.
Patience, Endurance, Resilience, a NEVER GIVE UP ATTITUDE.
We ARE getting there.
Step by Step. In a War of Incrementalism, the tide is shifting.
Great Job People.
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
Submitted by constitutional911 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:03 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001
Professor PAUL ZAREMBKA (USA), Professor of Economics, State University of New York at Buffalo, NY. Editor of "THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF 9-11-2001",
General Editor for RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY, and FRONTIERS IN ECONOMETRICS.
CANADA's "WAR ON TERROR"
Professor MICHAEL KEEFER (CANADA), Professor of English, University of Guelph, Graduate Royal Military College of Canada, Former President, Association of Canadian College and University Teachers of English. Widely published on "War on Terror", "Toronto 18", 9/11, and philosophy.
Friday November 14, 2008, 7:00 – 9:30 pm
Sidney Smith Hall, University of Toronto
100 St. George St.,Toronto, at Huron, one block west of St. George Street, 2 blocks east of Spadina
(Use St. George or Spadina subway, or park behind the church. Doors open 6:45pm.
Admission: Free
For information, Contact:
Adam Parrott, Grassroots Organizer for Mississauga
911truth.org
adam.parrott@gmail.com
Telephone: 905-487-7531
www.911inquiry.org
www.waterloo911.ca
[link to www.911blogger.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/9/2008 10:26 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
[link to www.wsws.org]
A damning admission on the Georgian war
8 November 2008
The New York Times on Friday carried a front-page article headlined “Accounts Undercut Claims by Georgia on Russia War.” The article cited a report by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a multinational association of 56 member states whose monitors were in Georgia when the fighting broke out, which demolishes the official US account of the August 2008 Russian-Georgian war, according to which the war was an act of Russian aggression.
The OSCE concluded that the conflict began on August 7 when US-trained Georgian troops shelled Russian peacekeepers and civilians in the capital of Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali.
According to Friday’s New York Times, “the accounts suggest that Georgia's inexperienced military attacked the isolated separatist capital of Tskhinvali on August 7 with indiscriminate artillery and rocket fire, exposing civilians, Russian peacekeepers and unarmed monitors to harm.” The newspaper added, “Georgian artillery rounds and rockets were falling throughout the city at intervals of 15 to 20 seconds between explosions, and within the first hour of the bombardment at least 48 rounds landed in a civilian area.”
After an initial bombardment around 6 PM on August 7, Georgian troops declared a unilateral ceasefire, during which they apparently moved rockets and artillery into better positions. At 11 PM, Georgia announced that Russian troops were shelling Georgian villages in South Ossetia and declared an operation to “restore constitutional order” there.
OSCE monitors refuted Georgian claims that Georgian forces were responding to a Russian attack. The Times wrote, “monitors have also said they were unable to verify that ethnic Georgian villages were under heavy bombardment that evening, calling to question one of [Georgian President] Mr. Saakashvili's main justifications for the attacks.”
The newspaper quoted ex-British army officer Ryan Grist, who was the senior OSCE representative in Georgia when the war broke out, as saying, “It was clear to me that the [Georgian] attack was completely indiscriminate and disproportionate to any, if indeed there had been any, provocation.”
As was explained later, particularly in the European press, Georgia hoped to rapidly overrun South Ossetia and seize the Roki Tunnel, the main transport corridor through the mountains separating Russia and South Ossetia. In the case of a weak Russian response—the attack took place with top Russian officials away at the Beijing Olympics—Georgia could hope to present Russia with a fait accompli. In the event, the Georgian offensive bogged down in Tskhinvali and Russia sent in reinforcements, rapidly chasing Georgian troops out of South Ossetia.
US government and media reporting at the time turned reality on its head, denouncing Russia in chorus for its “aggression.” As Russia sent reinforcements to South Ossetia and expelled Georgian forces, President Bush denounced Russia's response as “disproportionate.” Vice President Dick Cheney said, “Russian aggression must not go unanswered,” adding that its continuation would have “serious consequences” for Russia’s relations with the United States.
In its August 12 editorial, the Times wrote, “Moscow claims it is merely defending the rights of ethnic minorities in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which have been trying to break from Georgia since the early 1990s. But its ambitions go far beyond that. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin [...] appears determined to reimpose by force and intimidation as much of the old Soviet sphere of influence as he can get away with.”
In its Friday article, the Times implied that the findings of the OSCE was new information about which the newspaper was previously unaware. However, its own account contradicts this self-serving depiction of its role in spreading disinformation about the Georgian-Russian conflict. The article notes that OSCE representative Grist last August “gave a briefing to diplomats from the European Union that drew from the monitors’ observations and included his assessments. He then soon resigned under unclear circumstances.” There can be no doubt that the Times (as well as the US government) was aware of Grist’s report soon after it was given to EU officials.
The Times article concluded that the discrepancy between OSCE testimony and the official position of the US government and media put “the United States in a potentially difficult position. The United States, Saakashvili's principal source of international support, has for years accepted the organization's conclusions and praised its professionalism.”
In fact, the OSCE report completely refutes the US line, which was shot through with inconsistencies. While seeking to place the blame on Russia, the US media also spread claims that Georgian forces had acted without US knowledge—even though the US kept over 100 military advisors in Georgia in the run-up to the invasion, which followed soon after a major exercise with US forces entitled “Immediate Response 2008.”
Washington seized on the Russian-Georgian conflict to place missile defenses and troops in Poland and the Czech Republic, raising the specter of a direct military clash with Russia. It dismissed Russian claims of Georgian aggression out of hand.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain telephoned Saakashvili and told him, “Today we're all Georgians.” Then-Democratic candidate Barack Obama issued a statement from Hawaii, where he was on vacation, denouncing Russian “aggression.” Later, in ceremonies for the seventh anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the candidates joined forces to issue calls for “national service,” with Obama saying, “If we are going to war, then all of us go, not just some.”
Definite political conclusions must be drawn from a situation that created the potential for global war. First and foremost is the utter unreliability of the US political establishment and media, which expressed hardly any dissenting views, even as more critical accounts emerged in the European press in sharp contradiction to their accounts.
The prominence the New York Times gave to its account of the OSCE report—the article was the front-page lead and continued to a full-page article in the inside pages—suggests a deliberate operation to prepare public opinion for a shift in US policy in the region. With President-elect Obama committed to increasing the US military presence in Afghanistan and the US facing a major economic recession, an attempt seems to be underway to repair relations with Russia, possibly at Saakashvili's expense.
In Tbilisi 10,000 protestors marched against Saakashvili yesterday, marking the one-year anniversary of his violent repression of demonstrations supporting rival nationalist Irakli Okruashvili.
The US also announced plans yesterday to open negotiations with Russia over nuclear weapons and the controversial US nuclear missile defense shield aimed at Russia. The talks would aim to revise the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) and assuage “Moscow's growing opposition to a US missile-defense system for Europe,” according to the Wall Street Journal.
A State Department official told the Journal such negotiations would not conclude under the Bush administration, but would rather “help get the ball rolling” for President-elect Obama.
Alex Lantier |
| Infinity05
User ID: 544615
11/10/2008 12:12 AM
 | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
NO |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 12:21 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
In other words...
officials have confirmed that this was a U.S. inspired Georgian false flag event which failed. Seems the Russians know their, and more recent U.S., history.
And the U.S. propaganda machine rolls on...
We will all have to work that much harder now that Obama has been brought in to put "the left" back to sleep and "the right" will have their false "progressive" to rail against.
Divide and conquer, the oldest game in the book.
Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busier!
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 12:27 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
-- Theodore Roosevelt's 1912 Platform of the Progressive Party |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 7:08 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 7:36 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Open Letter To War
Criminal George Bush
By Joe Cortina
Mr. Bush
I cannot in good conscience call you my 'President'. That undeserved and unearned degree of respect would stick in my throat like warm vomit. - I respect the title, but do not respect you NO decent American does. You are not only a disgrace to your high office, but a debasement to the dreams of our Founding Fathers. Your conduct is untrustworthy traitorous and treacherous to the good people of this country. You can forget the predictable disrespectful letter nonsense.
You must FIRST be proven WORTHY of respect to assess any criticism 'disrespectful'.
You have broken the Holy oath you took as President. "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God" I took a very similar oath - but unlike you I have been true to MY oath. The 'enemies' DO include ALL both FOREIGN ( our mortal enemy Israel) and DOMESTIC (you and your cabal of Israeli loyal neo-con traitors)
You have mocked God by your outrageous blasphemies and your sadistic murder of countless innocent lives especially children. Your conduct will indeed merit the Scriptural "millstone about your neck and cast into the sea". You are a monster (certainly not worthy of being called a "MAN") of exceptional cruelty and evil a consummate liar and hypocrite of biblical proportions.
History WILL eventually hail you as not only the most evil President in the history of the United States but one of the most evil persons in history PERIOD! While you were leading your privileged life of a millionaire in grade school, I was training combat troops during the worst war crisis since WWII. Most of these over 1,000 - were decent young warriors not our modern day civilian murderers who do your dirty work without conscience because you tell them that God is on OUR side what blasphemous arrogance.
Your mockery of Christian belief and conduct, as presented by our Lord Christ is so obnoxious that you must know the nature of your fate in the hereafter. Your lack of contrition for the unspeakable war crimes you have committed against helpless innocent civilians has sealed your fate in hell where you WILL spend eternity.
Particularly odious in the eyes of God must be your WILLFUL conduct in the implementation of especially sinister war weapons against civilian populaces so cruel that you will find that even the WWII German Army did not in conscience employ these horrid things against helpless civilians especially trapped or escaping refugees.
The ridicule and contempt for God by swearing that HE the Prince of Peace commanded you to murder countless non-combatant men women and children is blasphemy without equal in history. You will be reviled by generations to come for your unparalleled treason and murder. The TRUTH of the 9-11 conspiracy WILL be exposed and I pray along with countless millions of freedom loving people worldwide that you are convicted and hung as the mega-criminal that you most assuredly are.
How DARE you slander my good name and those of countless other REAL patriots who have unhesitatingly placed themselves in harm's way for love of God and country - with insults of "traitor" when you yourself have betrayed AN ENTIRE NATION.
I am a Veteran Mr. Bush and a member of the dysfunctional incompetent under- funded VA hospital Administration. I discovered that I could not get the drugs preferred by my physician. I asked WHY the VA would NOT Supply these life saving drugs. Their answer? Because "they were more expensive that other similar drugs". Well some of those 'substitute similar' drugs made me sick and it was months of my discomfort before it was discovered.
In other words MY government the most powerful and RICH nation on EARTH CAN afford at YOUR ORDER to send the most deadly and agonizing weaponry to the Jews by special airlift at the cost of MILLIONS of our hard earned dollars - so they can murder MORE civilians YOU FULL WELL KNOWING OF THE IMMINANT CEASE FIRE! Isn't that right 'Mr. war criminal butcher'?
BUT you will not authorize the pittance to supply the VA so that vets can have the proper medications. Now to make matters even a higher hardship YOU - MR. Child murderer have authorized this evil Government you control to take funds out of my meager $930 SS check which is my only formal income now. Why is my SS entitlement being robbed? Because I have not paid for those UNOPENED UNUSED drugs which made me sick and which I have tried countless times to inform the VA - BUT no one will answer or return calls. The VA sent me a letter as if they were the Gestapo and I was a peasant servant of the State stating that I had NO recourse for my grievances and THEY did NOT want or need my input and had NO intentions of contacting me.
Since it is evident that the VA will not help I must now spend my life savings to buy my own drugs a several thousand-dollar/yr expense. Thank you SO much for your 'concern' for us vets.
BTW Since you would never bother to stoop so low as to read a letter from one of the common people your Gestapo agent readers would otherwise presume that I am a leftist liberal disgruntled Democrat, right? You don't have enough gray hairs on your head to preach morality to me.
WRONG! I am not only a REAL REPUBLICAN but have been called the Republican's Republican. Voted for you twice many year card holding member of the RNC. Your administration is so foul and evil, from warmonger Rumsfeld to the high priestess of hate Rice that NO REAL Christian or informed ethical American could possibly support your imperialistic greedy self-serving war making on sovereign nations who have done us no harm.
YOU SIR: have been the principle person who created an enemy out of a former ally. There was no US enemy in the Mid-East before the racist secular Christian- hating bogus State of Israel came into being. That hellhole is a MORTAL ENEMY of this country and whose evil parasitic people have turned this once great country into a morally-rotted corpse.
A quick quiz Mr. Warmonger. Which is the ONLY country on planet earth that has since Dec. 1941 - committed by PUREST DEFINITION and ACT OF WAR against the United States OF America - or committed the unprovoked merciless sadistic slaughter of over TWO HUNDRED of our fathers sons brothers and neighbors? But of course that was ' OK' just as long as the murderers were the 'self-chosen'. Did you get that one right? Well here is another. Which is the ONLY country in the Mid-East that DOES IN FACT have a HUGE arsenal of REAL weapons of REAL mass destruction AND who have OPENLY threatened/ blackmailed America that they would NOT hesitate to use them against us if we do not continue to start AND SUPPORT wars against THEIR enemies NOT OURS.
YOU and YOU alone are responsible for bringing NOT ONLY AMERICA but the ENTIRE WORLD into a senseless conflict which will only end in a world wide cataclysm of horrors death and ruination the likes of which earth has never seen. You have worked VERY diligently to posture yourself as the anti-Christ as I cannot imagine any world leader more evil and deceiving.
I fear more for my children and grandchildren and pray for the day of our deliverance from greedy immoral monsters of your ilk. Never in my adult life have I ever witnessed such sadistic evil and personal joy of the immeasurable suffering of your helpless innocent victims.
To forgive is divine so it has been said. Perhaps Christ will forgive you but I will not. You have led my country to the very edge of ruination with your bizarre slavish loyalty to the most perverse violent - Godless sadistic pernicious people I have ever encountered. THESE are the animals that had Christ murdered. NONE of their mentality AND conduct has changed in 2 millennia only the names. AND I WILL remind you that according to our Lord these people are vipers, hypocrites, Pharisees and sons of the Devil.
If you are inclined to use tired inane insults like "anti-Semitic" then you had better rebuke Christ as well for I am only the messenger quoting His Holy Scripture from the NT. I am a mere mortal and am not entitled to such powers but were I able I would damn you to hell for all eternity for the misery and death that YOU have authored in the name of our Lord. My personal experiences of sufferings that YOU are DIRECTLY responsible for, are but a drop in a sea of tears authorized by your decree. You have MUCH innocent blood on your hands.
With utter disgust,
Joe Cortina father veteran patriot and Christian |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 9:46 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"to LS and other apologists for this nazi regime,
the reason a lot of shit in NY has to do with 911 is because
THEY FUCKING MURDERED 3000 US citizens and blamed it on ghosts.
They used it to destroy your country and plenty of others
get your head out of your ass
I GUARANTEE this had to do with 911, Israel, Larry Silverstein,
why all the Israelis involved in the emperors club?
fucking idiots,,,,take your paycheck and sell your kids future , fucking retards
what kind of country do you think you are making protecting them? You think they aren't going to do an even bigger false flag next time? Might be YOUR city next
When it does happen, everyone who stood in the way of 911 truth, is an accomplice
go fuck yourself, you never deserved freedom in the first place, obviously
sure faal/booth is disinfo but this guy is intertwined with 91 forever,,,,just like those who help with the coverup
and our numbers grow every day? know why? because peple still like the truth, despite your heapings of bullshit
it will never die, the people who did it WILL be held accountable
period
we wont ever shut up, do you understand that? EVER
you can kill us all , and more will spring up in our place
and everyone who defends these lying murderers: you'll get yours too" |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/10/2008 9:52 AM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
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| BOWMAN 
My God! It's full of stars!
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11/10/2008 10:00 AM
 | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:34 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
[link to rawstory.com]
David Edwards and Stephen C. Webster
Published: Monday November 10, 2008
The UK's Independent Television News dedicated a short segment of a Monday broadcast to briefly explaining several core tent poles of the 9/11 truth movement.
"With new figures showing almost 150 million Web pages devoted to 9/11 conspiracies, here are the big three so-called plot holes in the official version," announced a narrator.
"One theory is that the collapse of both the twin towers was caused not by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires, but by controlled demolitions. Theorists point to the uniform crumbling of individual floors in each tower."
The narrator also mentioned a more obscure 9/11 theory: that the planes which hit the WTC towers had 'shaped charge warheads' in their nosecones.
Perhaps the most widely discussed theory, that there was no plane crash at the Pentagon, is also mentioned, with evidence cited as the lack of debris and the small impact hole. The program also mentions that the FBI has refused to release video footage of the object impacting the Pentagon, but failed to disclose how many cameras captured it.
Specifically, the FBI confiscated 85 video tapes which may contain footage of the attack.
The program also outlines questions about the alleged crash in Shanksville, PA., citing eyewitness reports of debris raining down across a wide area, as if the aircraft had been shot down by a missile.
Strangely absent was any attempt to summarize questions surrounding the collapse of World Trade Center 7: a highly significant event to 9/11 truth activists, still rife with questions even after the recent National Institute of Standards and Technology report.
This video is from ITN, broadcast November 10, 2008.
[link to www.911blogger.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:36 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Students rally in support of Omar Khadr in downtown Edmonton Saturday night November 08, 2008
Omar Khadr: Tortured child prisoner presently held in Guantanamo Bay Naval Base.
"They Get It (Students) they understand rights. Kids understand."
Dennis Edney,
Dennis is one of Omar Khadr's lawyers fighting to extradite Omar back to Canada to stand trial.
Complete 9/11 Speakers Corner YOUTBES: [link to www.youtube.com]
Edmonton 9/11 Truth
[link to edmonton911truth.com]
Be The Media!
Ask Questions, Demand Answers! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:41 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
"Before her assasination, Benazar Bhutto, the front runner for President of Pakistan, stated on the record, that Bin Laden was dead. It was on major news everywhere except CBS, NBC, Fox and ABC.
So, now we know you only view scripted paid for news anchors.
Get a fuckin life, and an education." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 517231
11/10/2008 10:41 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
YES!!!!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:43 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Richard Falk
9/11: More than meets the eye
Richard Falk
Sunday 09 November 2008, The Journal Issue 13
Every so often attention is called anew to the doubts surrounding the true character of the events surrounding the 9/11 attacks. Recently, the report of the collapse of Building 7 represented such an occasion. Any close student of 9/11 is aware of the many serious discrepancies between the official version of what took place and the actual happenings on that fateful day in 2001. David Ray Griffin and others have analyzed and assessed these discrepancies in such an objective and compelling fashion that only wilful ignorance can maintain that the 9/11 narrative should be treated as a closed book, and that the public should move on to address the problems of the day.
To accept such a view is to acquiesce in what can be described at best as governmental evasiveness and irresponsibility, a resolve to leave the discrepancies unexplained. It is not paranoid under such circumstances to assume that the established elites of the American governmental structure have something to hide, and much to explain. What has not been established by the “9/11 Truth Movement” is a convincing counter-narrative – that is, an alternate version of the events that clears up to what degree, if at all, the attacks resulted from incompetence, deliberate inaction, and outright complicity.
For democratic government to work, citizens must never refrain from seeking answers to the most difficult questions. Here, what is at stake is enormous. It is not only the memory of those killed and deprived by the attacks, but also the fashioning of a climate of opinion that gave rise to international wars, as well as led to widespread denial of rights under the pretext of “homeland security” and counter-terrorism. There is also a profound challenge to the legitimacy of a governing process that stands accused of letting such crimes take place, if not aiding and abetting their commission and subsequent cover-up.
It might be asked whether it is not just an expression of morbid curiosity for non-Americans to harp on this issue of finding out the truth about what happened on 9/11. My response is that what takes place in the United States often has global reverberations, and never more so than in this instance. The US is the first truly global state in history, with its military presence established worldwide by more than 700 overseas bases, by navies in every ocean, and by the military domination of space.
The brighter side of US influence was revealed recently by the sense of peoples around the world that the election of Barack Obama as the new American president was a global event, and not just a national election. But what should be obvious is that the 9/11 experience has been relied upon to wage bloody wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to underwrite a disastrously conceived “war on terror” that should be concern of everyone on the planet.
From this perspective, and given the dark cloud of doubt that lingers over the official 9/11 narrative, why was the issue not even discussed during the many months of presidential campaigning? As far as I know it was never mentioned. And the explanation is not the urgency associated with the widening economic crisis or the tactical interest of the Democrats to avoid offending Republicans in their search for support across party lines. The truth is deeper, and far more disturbing.
As far as I can tell, the real explanation is a widely shared fear of what sinister forces might lay beneath the unturned stones of a full and honest investigation of 9/11. Ever since the assassinations in the 1960s of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X there has been waged a powerful campaign against “conspiracy theory” that has made anyone who dares question the official story to be branded as a kook or some kind of unhinged troublemaker. In this climate of opinion, any political candidate for high office who dared raise doubts about the official version of 9/11 would immediately be branded as unfit, and would lose all political credibility. It is impossible to compete in any public arena in the United States if a person comes across as a “9/11 doubter.”
A few talk show hosts, investigative citizens, and publishers have kept a low flame of controversy burning sufficiently to sustain a large and growing grassroots constituency that shares the view that the truth about the 9/11 events is not yet known, or more radically, that the truth is known but being actively suppressed. These doubters are determined to continue their difficult quest for truth, and this could possibly result in disclosures at some point that are sufficiently dramatic to force the issue onto the public stage – where it belongs.
The persisting inability to resolve this fundamental controversy about 9/11 subtly taints the legitimacy of the American government. It can only be removed by a willingness, however belated, to reconstruct the truth of that day, and to reveal the story behind its prolonged suppression. What exactly that truth would be is certainly unknowable at present, and even an honest, collaborative effort might never altogether remove doubts. But that honest effort is just what should be demanded and expected by persons of good will everywhere.
Richard A. Falk is Professor of International Law and Practice at Princeton University, and an appointee to two United Nations positions on the Palestinian territories
[link to www.911blogger.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:50 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
This is an excellent
This is an excellent article, by a Princeton professor which can certainly help in getting SOME to read the entire piece . . .
Thanks, Simuvac, for posting this.
I'll be xeroxing this article to have available on the table of lit set outside where I show the 9/11 movies . . .
"To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
-- Theodore Roosevelt's 1912 Platform of the Progressive Party
Submitted by betsy |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 451676
11/10/2008 10:54 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
""To destroy this invisible
""To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to Woodrow Wilson and Howard Taft, and consequently both major political parties."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Seems like Ted Roosevelt seemed to understand the true nature of the "2" party system.
Another interesting point of Ted Roosevelt.
"One memorable event occurred during this election. On October 14, Roosevelt was shot by one John F. Schrank while on his way to deliver a Progressive party speech. Schrank apparently did not have an issue with Theodore Roosevelt personally. His reason for the assassination attempt was a disapproval of anyone seeking a third term in office as president of the United States. (Ironically, Schrank lived just long enough in a mental institution to be alive when Theodore's cousin Franklin was elected to a third term in office.) The bullet was slowed down by TR's speech and eyeglass case in his jacket. Nonetheless, the bullet entered his chest but defiantly, Roosevelt went ahead and gave a 90 minute speech without medical attention. He began his speech by saying " ...I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose." Doctors determined the bullet (from a .38) was too difficult to remove and Roosevelt carried the bullet with him until he died in his sleep in 1919."
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
Submitted by constitutional911 |
| OBAMAFAN99
User ID: 532991
11/10/2008 11:02 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
yes |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 547813
11/10/2008 11:08 PM | | Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please] | Quote |
Yep. |
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