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POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8356
3/27/2007 2:31 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

yes
way to awake
User ID: 160399
3/27/2007 2:35 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Artist, please explain how NORAD was completely defeated by a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan. The deluded 90% want to know.


I made comment on that, go look and respond to what I said.

Artist, can you explain, why your credentials, are better than these people who question the gov't tale?
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report,
9/11 Survivors and Family Members
Question the 9/11 Commission Report
[link to patriotsquestion911.com]


A vast majority of Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, Government Officials, and Engineers; 95% or more agree with me.
 Quoting: Artist FKA HiRisque

whatever B.S., They, are bought and paid for. The ones who speak out, are truly the patriots................
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 GWB
Dill Pickle
User ID: 214803
3/27/2007 2:36 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

I used to would have voted "yes", but now its a big

NO
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22455
3/27/2007 2:41 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Just so we stay current, here’s the latest poll data:

Idiots on page 6:
Aaron
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User ID: 212416
User ID: 202259
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People that don't live in their Mom's basement on page 6:
User ID: 106002
Artist FKA HiRisque
Sigma
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Sigma
User ID: 199460
3/27/2007 2:44 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Nope.

oh lookie, the forum bad girl is also a complete jackass

probably a CIA plant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212674

Is that all you got?

laugh


No wonder you think Bush did it lmao
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Sigma
User ID: 199460
3/27/2007 2:49 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Artist, please explain how NORAD was completely defeated by a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan. The deluded 90% want to know.


I made comment on that, go look and respond to what I said.

Artist, can you explain, why your credentials, are better than these people who question the gov't tale?
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report,
9/11 Survivors and Family Members
Question the 9/11 Commission Report
[link to patriotsquestion911.com]
 Quoting: way to awake

Sorry, but that site you gave a link for is the saddest example of 'your side' of the argument I have ever seen. And I have listened to BOTH sides thoroughly. If I believed your version, I would avoid that site, it really doesnt help your cause. There are 15 year olds with better MySpace arguments for your cause than that. You can't even see the 'angle' of the website author - he isn't saying these people he is quoting are joining the "Insider Job" ranks. He is simply taking their testimony and their words and pointing out the parts that look shadey or questionable when used alone. It is a collection of quotes he is gathering from people that were actually there and using the pieces he wants. None of the people he lists are quoted as saying "Yes, I believe it was an inside job", not even close. Sorry, but it's true.
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Artist FKA HiRisque
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3/27/2007 2:51 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Artist, please explain how NORAD was completely defeated by a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan. The deluded 90% want to know.


I made comment on that, go look and respond to what I said.

Artist, can you explain, why your credentials, are better than these people who question the gov't tale?
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report,
9/11 Survivors and Family Members
Question the 9/11 Commission Report
[link to patriotsquestion911.com]


A vast majority of Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, Government Officials, and Engineers; 95% or more agree with me.

whatever B.S., They, are bought and paid for. The ones who speak out, are truly the patriots................
 Quoting: way to awake


They're friggen wackos and in some cases well known wackos in their given fields.

And I see you give a standard pat CT answer, anybody that disagree's was obviously brainwashed, braindead, bought off, etc.

It's a really childish argument. You really do live in your mother's basement don't you?
Channing
User ID: 191960
3/27/2007 2:55 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Yes.
All is One.

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Publius
User ID: 214811
3/27/2007 2:59 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

no
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
way to awake
User ID: 160399
3/27/2007 3:02 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Thomas H. Kean, Chairman, 9/11 Commission – Former Governor of New Jersey 1982 - 1990. Also served for 10 years in the New Jersey Assembly. Currently President of Drew University.

Without Precedent, a book about the 9/11 Commission authored by Chairman Thomas Kean and Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton 8/4/06: "Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]


Washington Post Article 8/2/06 - "Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate. ...

"We, to this day, don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. ... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied." [link to www.washington]


Editor's note: Despite the many public statements by 9/11 Commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded for lying to the 9/11 Commission.


Bio: [link to www.9-11commission.gov]



Lee Hamilton

Lee Hamilton, Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission – Former 17-term Congressman from Indiana. Former Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Currently President and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and serves as a member of the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council.

CBC video interview transcript regarding Without Precedent a book about the 9/11 Commission authored by Chairman Thomas Kean and Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton 8/21/06:

Lee Hamilton: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history. ... People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.

Evan Solomon: The first chapter of the book is 'the Commission was set up to fail.' ... Why do you think you were set up to fail?

Hamilton: Well, for a number of reasons: ... we got started late; we had a very short time frame - indeed, we had to get it extended; we did not have enough money - 3 million dollars to conduct an extensive investigation. We needed more, we got more, but it took us a while to get it. ...

We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail. ...

Solomon: I guess the question is, you know, if forty odd million dollars were spent investigating President Bill Clinton’s sexual infidelities, why did the American people and the world have to wait 441 days for a commission [to begin its work] that was originally budgeted for 3 million dollars and given barely a year [to complete the investigation]?

Hamilton: I think basically it’s because they were afraid we were going to hang somebody, that we would point the finger, right in the middle of a presidential campaign - 'Mr. Bush, this was your fault' ..." [link to www.cbc.ca]


Editor's note: Ultimately, the budget for the 9/11 Commission was increased to $12 million and they were given 18 months to complete the investigation and issue their report. In comparison, $20 million was spent on the independent Columbia Accident Investigation Board's investigation of the 2003 Columbia space shuttle disaster, in which 7 astronauts were killed. This amount does not include an estimated $300 million spent on debris recovery of the space shuttle, nor tens of millions spent by NASA in support of the investigation. [link to www.ksc.nasa.gov]


Bio: [link to www.9-11commission.gov]



Timothy J. Roemer

Timothy J. Roemer, PhD, 9/11 Commissioner – Former 6-term Congressman from Indiana (1991 - 2003). Former member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 GWB
Sigma
User ID: 199460
3/27/2007 3:19 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Thomas H. Kean, Chairman, 9/11 Commission – Former Governor of New Jersey 1982 - 1990. Also served for 10 years in the New Jersey Assembly. Currently President of Drew University.

Without Precedent, a book about the 9/11 Commission authored by Chairman Thomas Kean and Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton 8/4/06: "Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue." [link to www.washingtonpost.com]


Washington Post Article 8/2/06 - "Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate. ...

"We, to this day, don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. ... It's one of those loose ends that never got tied." [link to www.washington]


Editor's note: Despite the many public statements by 9/11 Commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded for lying to the 9/11 Commission.


Bio: [link to www.9-11commission.gov]



Lee Hamilton

Lee Hamilton, Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission – Former 17-term Congressman from Indiana. Former Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Currently President and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and serves as a member of the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council.

CBC video interview transcript regarding Without Precedent a book about the 9/11 Commission authored by Chairman Thomas Kean and Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton 8/21/06:

Lee Hamilton: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history. ... People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.

Evan Solomon: The first chapter of the book is 'the Commission was set up to fail.' ... Why do you think you were set up to fail?

Hamilton: Well, for a number of reasons: ... we got started late; we had a very short time frame - indeed, we had to get it extended; we did not have enough money - 3 million dollars to conduct an extensive investigation. We needed more, we got more, but it took us a while to get it. ...

We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail. ...

Solomon: I guess the question is, you know, if forty odd million dollars were spent investigating President Bill Clinton’s sexual infidelities, why did the American people and the world have to wait 441 days for a commission [to begin its work] that was originally budgeted for 3 million dollars and given barely a year [to complete the investigation]?

Hamilton: I think basically it’s because they were afraid we were going to hang somebody, that we would point the finger, right in the middle of a presidential campaign - 'Mr. Bush, this was your fault' ..." [link to www.cbc.ca]


Editor's note: Ultimately, the budget for the 9/11 Commission was increased to $12 million and they were given 18 months to complete the investigation and issue their report. In comparison, $20 million was spent on the independent Columbia Accident Investigation Board's investigation of the 2003 Columbia space shuttle disaster, in which 7 astronauts were killed. This amount does not include an estimated $300 million spent on debris recovery of the space shuttle, nor tens of millions spent by NASA in support of the investigation. [link to www.ksc.nasa.gov]


Bio: [link to www.9-11commission.gov]



Timothy J. Roemer

Timothy J. Roemer, PhD, 9/11 Commissioner – Former 6-term Congressman from Indiana (1991 - 2003). Former member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
 Quoting: way to awake

Quoting NO one that said they think it was an insider job. Here's a hint. One of the people listed at your little blog site there is Karen Kwiatkowski. She is EXTREMELY outspoken, probably too much, which is why now her occupation is listed as FARMER, not U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. Study her. Tell me where she said she thought 9/11 was an inside job. Go ahead, do it. Her opinions on EVERYTHING government related are well publicized. Try to do it.
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REP
User ID: 191375
3/27/2007 3:25 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Yes
The keenest sorrow is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. Sophocles
Sigma
User ID: 199460
3/27/2007 3:51 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Quoting NO one that said they think it was an insider job. Here's a hint. One of the people listed at your little blog site there is Karen Kwiatkowski. She is EXTREMELY outspoken, probably too much, which is why now her occupation is listed as FARMER, not U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. Study her. Tell me where she said she thought 9/11 was an inside job. Go ahead, do it. Her opinions on EVERYTHING government related are well publicized. Try to do it.
 Quoting: Sigma

Cmon way to awake, you cite a source to support an insider-job theory, yet ignore the fact that those listed at that site are being misquoted and misrepresented. Where has Karen Kwiatkowski, who's name was included at your *site*, ever said it was an insider job? Here I'll make it easier for you.


Her most comprehensive writings on the subject of a corrupting influence of the Pentagon on intelligence analysis leading up to the Iraq War appeared in a series of articles in The American Conservative magazine in December 2003 and in a March 2004 article on Salon.com. In the latter piece ("The New Pentagon Papers") she wrote:

I witnessed neoconservative agenda bearers within OSP usurp measured and carefully considered assessments, and through suppression and distortion of intelligence analysis promulgate what were in fact falsehoods to both Congress and the executive office of the president.

Kwiatkowski described how a clique of officers led by retired Navy Captain Bill Luti, assistant secretary of defense for NESA and former aide to Dick Cheney when the latter was Secretary of Defense, took control of military intelligence and how the "Office of Special Plans" (OSP) grew and eventually turned into a censorship and disinformation organism controlling the NESA.[5]

Following the American Conservative and Salon articles, Kwiatkowski began to receive criticism from several conservative sources that supported President Bush's policies. Michael Rubin of the National Review argued she had exaggerated her knowledge of the OSP's workings and claimed she had ties to Lyndon LaRouche[6]. Their criticisms were later backed by the bipartisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence which found that Kwiatkowski could not cite a single example to support her claims

Also, [link to militaryweek.com]


Now please show me where she believes your opinion.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185332
3/27/2007 5:03 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Yes
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 185332
3/27/2007 5:03 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Yes
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 214844
3/27/2007 5:14 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

YES...the GODDAMN JEWS DID IT....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 214845
3/27/2007 5:19 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

yes
DanG
User ID: 205167
3/27/2007 9:10 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

skipping the gas-bag posts and getting back to the poll
looks like, what, 80-85% know our 'leaders' are full of shit
ELMO
User ID: 214932
3/27/2007 9:22 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

No

I have studied all of the evidence, and all of the inside job stuff is disinfo and other made up BS, and dramatized bullshit, passed around the net as fact when it is not. It makes for a very good story though! But no, it was not an inside job. Thats not to say our government did not do many things around the world to bring it upon itself. It did. But the people that hit us were truly Muslim extremists, or at least people using muslim extremism as an excuse to attack America. IMO, these types of people are not true Muslims, but radicals who are like a cult breakoff of Islam- one that preaches and seeks and thrives off of violence and confrontation.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 214933
3/27/2007 9:24 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

dubya yes and it wont be the last bushfing
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 214944
3/27/2007 10:05 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

"Sorry, but that site you gave a link for is the saddest example of 'your side' of the argument I have ever seen. And I have listened to BOTH sides thoroughly. If I believed your version, I would avoid that site, it really doesnt help your cause. There are 15 year olds with better MySpace arguments for your cause than that. You can't even see the 'angle' of the website author - he isn't saying these people he is quoting are joining the "Insider Job" ranks. He is simply taking their testimony and their words and pointing out the parts that look shadey or questionable when used alone. It is a collection of quotes he is gathering from people that were actually there and using the pieces he wants. None of the people he lists are quoted as saying "Yes, I believe it was an inside job", not even close. Sorry, but it's true."

Sigma, Bob Bowman is on that site. He definately says 911 was an inside job and appeared at Scholars for Truth lectures.
Please update your information to avoid looking like a fool.
acid
User ID: 213033
3/27/2007 10:06 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

no
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 207617
3/27/2007 10:22 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Yes. It was a case MIHOP. (Make It Happen On Purpose)

pump2 <-- Dancing Witnesses
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160399
3/27/2007 10:56 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Artist, please explain how NORAD was completely defeated by a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan. The deluded 90% want to know.


I made comment on that, go look and respond to what I said.

Artist, can you explain, why your credentials, are better than these people who question the gov't tale?
Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report,
9/11 Survivors and Family Members
Question the 9/11 Commission Report
[link to patriotsquestion911.com]


A vast majority of Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, Government Officials, and Engineers; 95% or more agree with me.

whatever B.S., They, are bought and paid for. The ones who speak out, are truly the patriots................


They're friggen wackos and in some cases well known wackos in their given fields.

And I see you give a standard pat CT answer, anybody that disagree's was obviously brainwashed, braindead, bought off, etc.

It's a really childish argument. You really do live in your mother's basement don't you?
 Quoting: Artist FKA HiRisque

No, Artist I, live on her roof.....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 119873
3/27/2007 11:19 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

100% WHY EEEE ESSSSS
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 119873
3/27/2007 11:21 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

No

I have studied all of the evidence, and all of the inside job stuff is disinfo and other made up BS, and dramatized bullshit, passed around the net as fact when it is not. It makes for a very good story though! But no, it was not an inside job. Thats not to say our government did not do many things around the world to bring it upon itself. It did. But the people that hit us were truly Muslim extremists, or at least people using muslim extremism as an excuse to attack America. IMO, these types of people are not true Muslims, but radicals who are like a cult breakoff of Islam- one that preaches and seeks and thrives off of violence and confrontation.
 Quoting: ELMO 214932



Shut up you ol' biscuit Head....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 160399
3/27/2007 11:28 AM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Just so we stay current, here’s the latest poll data:

Idiots on page 6:
Aaron
User ID: 195093
User ID: 160399
User ID: 212416
User ID: 202259
TEXAS UNCENSORED
User ID: 214799
way to awake
Freddie


People that don't live in their Mom's basement on page 6:
User ID: 106002
Artist FKA HiRisque
Sigma
User ID: 22455
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22455

dumbass
donaldach
User ID: 214992
3/27/2007 12:12 PM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

Peace unto those that seek peace,

yes, of course.

Do chess pieces move by themselves?
Mr. Predictor SubscriberModerator
Forum Moderator
User ID: 83143
3/27/2007 12:18 PM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

nope ... I don't think they were smart enough to pull it off
those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who don't
Duncan Kunz Subscriber
The Debunker King
User ID: 97965
3/27/2007 12:23 PM
Re: POLL-was 911 an inside job (yes or no only please]Quote

no.
Those western imperialist warmongers beat us to the Moon. Damn!
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