The barrier of light speed is a human thing. Infinite speed doesn`t mean time travel. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75568894 United Kingdom 09/27/2017 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very interesting OP. We have an extremely limited perception of the Universe. Afterall, like you say we only see a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum with our sight. We can not even visualize quarks, nor have any idea what the universe looks like from the outside. We have used mathematics to deduce certain physical laws pertaining to our observations of the local universe... but If you imagine a telescope and microscope of infinite zoom, our level of magnification limits us to what we can really see rather considerably. Our place is small, whether we analyze the limit in EM visualization, our view of the microscopic/macroscopic universe, even our mathematical knowledge can become quite limited by our restriction to 4-dimensional space when we can theoretically account for many more dimensions in string theory. When we imagine multidimensional reality, then we may conclude that mathematics could very well be different when used and viewed in many more dimensions. Aliens may use very different tools to analyze the universe also... We must remain very open-minded and realize the truth of reality which is the fact that we know very, very, very little about anything and that's actually wonderful because it would be a boring world if we knew everything :) |
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The Rickest Rick Sanchez User ID: 73168454 United States 09/27/2017 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75568894 United Kingdom 09/27/2017 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some people are blinded, whether it's through lack of knowledge or merely ignorance, but not all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75568894 Fear of the unknown is the most powerful force behind mankind lag in developments. Proved, even with blood, for at least 7,000 years. This is very true, but against the tides of adversity and during some very dark moments in human history, there have been pioneers who have defied the odds and broken the mold whether we think about Galileo, Aristotle, Columbus, Magellan etc. And whether we think about these pioneers in medicine, science, explorative geography, and lately in astronomy - despite many setbacks, our civilization has evolved and made many advances which could allow us to take a leap into the cosmos. We may very well be limited by our perception of the Universe, but this does not limit our chances of exploring the unseen, and to coin a phrase from Star Trek - "to boldly go..." The question is: can we make the jump in time? I hope we can... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some people are blinded, whether it's through lack of knowledge or merely ignorance, but not all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75568894 Fear of the unknown is the most powerful force behind mankind lag in developments. Proved, even with blood, for at least 7,000 years. This is very true, but against the tides of adversity and during some very dark moments in human history, there have been pioneers who have defied the odds and broken the mold whether we think about Galileo, Aristotle, Columbus, Magellan etc. And whether we think about these pioneers in medicine, science, explorative geography, and lately in astronomy - despite many setbacks, our civilization has evolved and made many advances which could allow us to take a leap into the cosmos. We may very well be limited by our perception of the Universe, but this does not limit our chances of exploring the unseen, and to coin a phrase from Star Trek - "to boldly go..." The question is: can we make the jump in time? I hope we can... I don't see nobody with enough momentum, right now, to lead such a movement. But, if by chance, a violation of RT like supraluminal speeds reaches MSM, it would a start. Yet. so much money and people involved! I searched, a while ago, why "c" is the upper limit. At Quora, the question: What's the fundamental reason why the speed of light cannot be broken? Why does the universe want to preserve the upper barrier on speed of light so much so that it readily slows down time rather than see the speed barrier broken? has more than 100 answers. Every single one quotes Einstein, one way or another (through Maxwell, for instance). No variations at any answer. Sad! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74840639 United States 09/27/2017 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Infinite velocity when combined with infinite angular diversity imposed upon the one infinitesimal Singularity establishes the spatial dimension of width. The "wake' left behind of that establishes the infinite expanse, the spatial dimension of height. The one infinitesimal Singularity is the spatial dimension of depth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591695 Australia 09/27/2017 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Gravity travels faster than light speed. Perhaps if could have a gravity lens then might be able to produce a picture of objects by the gravity they exert (even though very small). Google image search of "crop circle antenna" shows a crop circle that possibly depicts a gravity lens cross sectional diagram. Another search "In 2001 Aliens Answered To NASA Message?". Shows same crop circle at bottom of picture, corresponding to positon of a satellite DISH in a message Nasa sent in to space. This indicates that it is able to communicate, perhaps the mechanism is gravity. If you search for "jln telos toroidal coil", you will find a french guy's website where he has been able to use 2 toroidal coils to wirelessly propel a piece of metal. Other people on internet have managed to twist laser beams going through centre of toroidal coils. Perhaps the very low gravity effect (can bend a laser) could be magnified by having multiple stages (many additional coils). Perhaps another way might be to use a spinning toroid of mercury, the idea being that the toroidal coils induce a current in the mercury, this current can then be made to take a path through the mercury matching the path that would exist in a toroidal coil by spinng this mercury toroid and thus in itself creates the same effect as a toroidal coil, where the energy of the effect comes from the spinning, thus converting rotational energy into linear thrust and magification of effects from primary toroidal coils. So this crop circle, perhaps the two shades represent presents of mercury or non present, with the design progressively magnifying the gravitational effects between stages(coils) so that can create a gravity lens. Could be used as a gravity lens or as an antigravity engine. Maybe a 1m diameter device might be able to reach out a far distance to pull in light, meaning a 1m device becomes an effective 100m diameter dish. If gravity travels 1 billion times faster than light, then this would open up the possibility of communicating with others in other star systems in real time. And perhaps being able to travel toother star systems in only minutes, by moving space so that the space craft does not really move. |
Nick Tesla User ID: 54243490 United States 09/27/2017 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rate of induction for light has a speed based upon the permeability and permitivity of the medium. C = 1/(sqrt(Mu_zero x Epsilon_zero)). That comes from Maxwell. But the idea that C is some kind of speed limit for the entire universe is the product of a confused mind. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We even don't know the transients at the beggining of an EM Wave irradiated from an antena. What if an Electrical Wave is the only thing that happens at the first wavelength, and this start the self-sustaining EM wave from the second wavelength? And what if this electrical wave flows at supraluminal speed over the electrical FIELD around the antenna during the first wavelength? Do you think that mainstream science is interested in ruining a 400 billion dollar "industry" easily earned with the suckers that sucumb to "modern" physics at ten of thousands of colleges around the world, books, documentaries, movies, etc.? Thread: Wow! This experiment detected supraluminal speed of EM Waves, on Earth! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75512743 United Kingdom 09/27/2017 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | =========== lol [link to d2gne97vdumgn3.cloudfront.net (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rate of induction for light has a speed based upon the permeability and permitivity of the medium. Quoting: Nick Tesla 54243490 C = 1/(sqrt(Mu_zero x Epsilon_zero)). That comes from Maxwell. But the idea that C is some kind of speed limit for the entire universe is the product of a confused mind. I agree completely with your last paragraph. When we have seen photos of 15,000 years light of plasma (current plus magnetism) that makes a bridge between a galaxy and his "daughter" smaller galaxy, and we know that current involved reaches 20000 trillions of amperes along the path, I'm shure that Faraday and Maxwell don't apply there. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the fundamental reason why the speed of light cannot be broken? Why does the universe want to preserve the upper barrier on speed of light so much so that it readily slows down time rather than see the speed barrier broken? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75512743 =========== lol [link to d2gne97vdumgn3.cloudfront.net (secure)] Not that we know! I been wondering why people don't make a fuzz about the use of permitivitty and permeability values used at Maxwell's equations. Why? Because they are static scalar values, calculated from matter at rest into a lab table. Did you know that both parameters are actually complex numbers, wich vary with frequency? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the fundamental reason why the speed of light cannot be broken? Why does the universe want to preserve the upper barrier on speed of light so much so that it readily slows down time rather than see the speed barrier broken? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75512743 =========== lol [link to d2gne97vdumgn3.cloudfront.net (secure)] Even before the sound barrier issue, it was the maximal value of the speed of a car, by 1910 (or around). There was a conviction (maybe with mathematical constructs) that speeds above 50 Km/Hr were deadly for a vehicle without reels to sustain their movements, like with trains. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not being an EM wave and being massless, I wonder what would be the speed. Soon, there will be a normal explanation for the para-normal activities. Who can say NO WAY? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I missed this part! Another mistake of mine. That is a really tough question! What would it take? From my point of view, it only can be possible in one way: - If there is a future already constructed and, by any reason, we are living behind it, in time, the answer is YES. It doesn't mean predestination, IHMO. Only that we are lagging behind this future (near) because of some kind of perceptual inertia based on: THE LIMIT OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT! LOL! - What if things happens FASTER than our perception, wich is based on EM waves manifestations and effects? - When we reach that time (distance sensitive), then we live that moment. But ALREADY happened. - This seems to be a contradiction with my prior thoughts. But I was thinking about travelling BACK in time. - This line of tought opens a theoretical possibility that we might travel in time, but only FORWARD. Remember the movie with Nicolas Cage, at wich he had a "two minutes window" to watch the future? This kind of things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75512743 United Kingdom 09/27/2017 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe one of this days, a new subtle energy (neurotron) will be discovered as responsible for the extra-corporal transmission of thoughts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75588264 Not being an EM wave and being massless, I wonder what would be the speed. Soon, there will be a normal explanation for the para-normal activities. Who can say NO WAY? from one magnetic pole of thought to the other pole of thought one pole in matter and the other in light that would mean errr NO WAY lol ... :) I need to put my armour/matter at my feet while I ride this unicorn over its rainbow to the other pole in light lol [link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe one of this days, a new subtle energy (neurotron) will be discovered as responsible for the extra-corporal transmission of thoughts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75588264 Not being an EM wave and being massless, I wonder what would be the speed. Soon, there will be a normal explanation for the para-normal activities. Who can say NO WAY? from one magnetic pole of thought to the other pole of thought one pole in matter and the other in light that would mean errr NO WAY lol ... :) I need to put my armour/matter at my feet while I ride this unicorn over its rainbow to the other pole in light lol [link to upload.wikimedia.org (secure)] Maybe the tin foil hatters are enlightened beings, LOL! Maybe they are overwhelmed by vissions. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like math. But, abusing of my mind and being tired (a long day) I'm prone to make mistakes, even contradictions. I'm a human being, so... (the usual excuse). LOL! Talking about perception by our senses, I found this amusing videoclip. Even when relativity compliant, maybe there is something in between that is aligned with my first post. |
strgzr User ID: 4908313 United States 09/27/2017 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made a mistake, inverting the speed of light at 300,000 Km/sec. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75588264 It is 3.333... nanoseconds/meter, not 0.3333... ns/mt. Still, even adjusting by 10x, the concept prevails. I hate math. My son is a prodigy. Takes after his mom in that respect. I have explored these things 'in my minds eye' as they used to say. Not so much anymore. Pretty well settled on what I believe. I still have the interest. The barrier of light speed is a human thing. My dog doesn’t care at all. :) :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75588264 Argentina 09/27/2017 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Particles (matter: atomic and subatomic level, molecular level, etc.), plasma (as fourth state of matter) and a wideband spectrum of EM Waves (energy) is all we know about this world. Graviton (a theoretically postulated particle, that is a boson in the Standard Model) is another manifestation of force, besides strong and weak forces. But we can think of a world with them, either we can perceive them, directly or not, or postulate them. So, since this Standard Model for Elementary Particles is assumed as complete for the last decade, where are we going from this point. Do we stop here, with the Higss Boson? A whole generation of mainstream physicists are happy with this. With the exception of alt-scientists (antagonist) and a few that searches new paths for evolution of physics (electric universe) are we stuck? So, the next 50 or 100 years are to profit from the current architecture of physics through engineering? I don't think so. Disruptive thought or elaboration is an occurrence that happens once in a while, and is tipically based on ONE PERSON. It takes to think: WHAT IF, plus work and genius. Tesla was disruptive. Planck was disruptive (even when he didn't knew by then) The swedish architect of the iPhone was disruptive. The two creators of Twitter were disruptive. Kilby (IC inventor) was disruptive. Gary Kildall (CP/M) was disruptive. Tim Berners-Lee (next Nobel Prize) was disruptive (WWW). Watch those awarded with Nobel prizes that came with tangible inventions (at the Nobel institute) and will find a bunch of others, even when were pro-stablishment (or would not have had their Nobel prize). So, even when science is requiring now multi billion dollars to get machinery for new developments, the next breakthrough still can came from a single guy in a garage, with the seed of geniuses into him. He will look "reality" and will say something like: but this is how everyone else is doing things. What if...? And a new line of thoughts is created. Indoctrination blind people, because of conviction or lack of courage to confront. But some people do. I believe in that. Not everything is rotten at the Farce of Science and not everyone is willing to sucumb under the growing power of mathematics replacing philosophy and logical thinking. |