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Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 7:59 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Well AC 218036

You make a interesting argument.

#1 for the kilometer measurements--convert them to meters--this will provide more accuracy.

#2 for US scale--measure in yards

#3 How accurate is google Earth--this remains to be seen. I would like to get on the ground in DC and measure--but I don't think Homeland Security would allow it--and this is not a cop-out. I think goeing out and measuring from dc's octagonal fountain by the capitol and going tyo the Linciln Memorial would rase a lot of suspicion.

The problem with throwing the baby out with the bathwater is that DC is NOT the only city laid out by a certain group of individuals (ie--Washington and the French Masons as well as others) New york Harbor also lays out may/june 2007 for an important occurance--which I posted above.

Paris France is another city laid out for the same purpose.
Study the vatican and Washington DC and tell me what you find?

From a firend of Mine, I hear Quebec also contains similar information as DC--but in a different way.

Is google earth perfect and totally accurate? Probably close enough for this kind of work.

I understand your skeptisism. So many people are proclaiming gloom and doom with global warming, or Planet X, or Galactic waves, or 2012--which are all BS, that it is hard to know what to believe.

In the past--sure, earth has been hit by meteors and small comets---but major cataclisms and climatic changes have all been caused by the relationship of the planets to each other.

For instance--large earthquakes are caused when earth aligns with mars, venus, and Neptune (or square of Neptune)
When venus breaks the alignment, large quakes occur. Throw in Mercury in the fray, or another planet--and whammo--huge quakes--like sumatra in 2004. Pluto can also be part of this alignment. The recent quake in Solomon Islands of 8.0 was due to Mercury breaking from the alignment with Earth/mars/and neptune. Go look.

Take some time and research all major quakes, from say the last 100+ years (7+) Then go to a solar system simulator, like the one here...

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

Type in the dates for those quakes and you will see what I say is true 95% of the time.

It may not include all mentioned planets--but a key ingredient is an earth mars alignment with either venus and/or mercury and either an alignment or a square with pluto or neptune.

Venus/Mars Neptune. Interesting combo. And if you research DC, Look up the PEACE monument.

Google Earth NEW York. You will find the symbols for Venus/Mars and neptune on Liberty island, Ellis Island and Governors Island repectively.

And questions you have--I would be more than willing to answer--if I can.

Mike
Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 8:01 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Is it a planetary Christmas party?
Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 8:02 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 8:20 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Conjunction junction...what's your function?

 Quoting: King Neptune



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The innocent and the beautiful
Have no enemy but time;
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Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 9:04 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Well AC 218036

You make a interesting argument.

#1 for the kilometer measurements--convert them to meters--this will provide more accuracy.

#2 for US scale--measure in yards

#3 How accurate is google Earth--this remains to be seen. I would like to get on the ground in DC and measure--but I don't think Homeland Security would allow it--and this is not a cop-out. I think goeing out and measuring from dc's octagonal fountain by the capitol and going tyo the Linciln Memorial would rase a lot of suspicion.

The problem with throwing the baby out with the bathwater is that DC is NOT the only city laid out by a certain group of individuals (ie--Washington and the French Masons as well as others) New york Harbor also lays out may/june 2007 for an important occurance--which I posted above.

Paris France is another city laid out for the same purpose.
Study the vatican and Washington DC and tell me what you find?

From a firend of Mine, I hear Quebec also contains similar information as DC--but in a different way.

Is google earth perfect and totally accurate? Probably close enough for this kind of work.

I understand your skeptisism. So many people are proclaiming gloom and doom with global warming, or Planet X, or Galactic waves, or 2012--which are all BS, that it is hard to know what to believe.

Mike
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 108147


Just wanted to say that I appreciate you actually acknowledging my posts about the accuracy of measurements. Like I said, you may be onto something but it's just that one measurements that gets me. I'm sure there is a ton of hidden meaning in the designs and layouts but I just think the 1.776km is a coincidence in this case or at the very least that its meaning is not tied into the year 1776. The accuracy just has to be too close. If you measure from just a slightly different spot at either site you're going to come up with a different number.

At any rate, if you ever do get a chance to get on the ground in DC there are range finding binoculars and stuff that would let you measure as long as you have line of sight. I agree that the feds are probably going to take note of anyone with survey equipment out in DC but I've seen models that look like regular binoculars although I don't know how precise they are.

Regardless though your site is interesting and the fact that you listened to what I've said gives me hope that everyone on here isnt balls to the wall crazy with no regard for reason. Good luck with your research.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 108147
4/2/2007 9:52 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Hello again AC 218036,

I understand what you are saying--but I assure you I am correct.

In reguards to rangefinding Binocs--they aren't the greatest in reguards to the distances I talk about in my writing--and most operate via laser which is probably monitored in DC because of the "terrorist" threat.

What I think you would really need to measure on the ground is where the cornerstones of these buildings are located. Evey major project/building in DC and many other areas have had a masonic ceremony when the cornerstone was laid. I theorize that only from these cornerstones could a true and accurate measurment be made--and this would need to be from the ground.

DC, and other cities have a very layered meaning--like an onion. If I had the time to write a complete book--I would.
They are all about the effects on the earth by planetary relationships---this is easy and difficult to understand at the same time. Think of them like modern stonehendges or reproductions in a way of the seven wonders of the world--which you can research.

Only time will tell if I am right--and only time will tell the severity of the activity which is going to occur.

This is what you need to observe...

1)- increasing media attention to global warming--which is pure bullshit.
2)-strong quakes from April 26 to May 1.
3)-From May 5 to May 12---either extremely strong widespread quakes--or am extreme period of "stillness" i don't know which because the solar system layout has nothing about it which I can compare it to.
4)-Venus becoming extremely bright, like a second sun, in the morning in the month of May. You will be able to observe this yourself because venus will rise before the sun.
5)From Mid-June on--terrible volcanoes, storms and tectonic movements which will continue through the period.
6)- a cool spring wich will turn to a hot summer around mid-may.
7)-A prolonged quake period from August thru October.

And this will be capped by strong electromagnetic discharges and solar anomolies in November and December.

Not too pleasent a scenario unfortunately.

Mike
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217881
4/2/2007 10:09 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

The Mayan Calendar and 2012. Unfortunately, the measurements in Washington D.C. DO NOT POINT to 2012, but an earlier date.

Idol1


They certainly do.

The Mayan calendar has been purposely misinterpreted to throw the masses off the scent.

2007 is when it happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 216363

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 218036
4/2/2007 11:16 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Mike,

Good call on the cornerstones, if you could measure from one to the other then you should have an official distance. Like you said though, probably couldn't use any sort of laser without getting caught.

Old fashioned trig would work well enough but you'd still need something to measure angles and I think they'd be suspicious of any survey equipment.

I did think a bit more though and I'm curious if you've found any interesting ratios in the distances. I think it makes more sense to embed hidden meanings in ratios since a ratio will remain constant regardless of what units of measurement - miles, km, etc - are used.

Anyways though happy hunting and I'll keep my eyes open for the upcoming events your predicting.
Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 11:45 PM
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The most important thread on GLP ever.

Commit the contents to memory.
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4/3/2007 12:12 AM
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4/3/2007 3:52 AM
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4/3/2007 5:01 AM
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stars.metawire.com

Idol1
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 8:11 AM
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This should be pinned
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 8:15 AM
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This should be pinned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14832


Too much truth in this to be pinned.
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 8:45 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 9:40 AM
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hi again AC 218036 and everyone else.

I don't think it is the ratios per say. It is the scale of the measurement--no matter what system of measurment was used.

127, 231, 358 are all repeating numbers to scale.
But they have to have a start and end point which can be identified. When you look at DC as a climatic (and solar) calender--those points can be identified and established.

As far as what I am predicting--it is not really a prediction. More like a forecast. After Jan 2008, with the exception of forecasting small events, I will be out of business because I am not in this for money or fame or anything like that. Just to let people know and to clarify things around them. (and to debunk nonsense and replace it with legitimate concerns)

The problem with a forum like GLP is there is a lot of nonsense here. And many have been fooled by the likes of Aussie Bloke or german Guy or other people.

The sky is constantly falling here--and that overshadows true research.

I have spent a great deal of time analysing climate, the kolbrin, the Bible, Masonic works, astronomy, architecture,
blah, blah, blah.

Far too many people thing cataclism has to come from some big red planet--or galactic waves. No No No.

Earth has cycles because the solar system is one big cycle.
Thing occur on a regular interval--including mass disaster.
What is coming, if I am right, is NOT RANDOM. It has happened before many times and its timimg and the signs have been recorded and kept by a few.

I have stumbled around for years believing in nonsence, like Planet x and the like. Then I realized "wait a second"
this doesn't sound right. then I saw so many similarities between ancient cultures. It was then I realized why they built stonehedge and others like it around the world.

The earth goes through a renewal process, which is detrimental to human beings, but ultimately important for our long term survival. Everything from the sun, to the moon, to the birds and bees was designed for a purpose.
It is only man that assigns it a "good" or "bad" label.

What is coming is NOT god punishing us, although it will feel that way.

personally, I hope I am wrong. And either way, I get screwed. If I am right, I will have to deal with a lot of crap (like everyone else) and I will have to listen to "why didn't you warn us." If I am wrong, I am sure there will be jeers and snickers.

But at least I don't talk to myself or say aliens are channeling a message through me, or to go kill your pets now to keep them from suffering.

I just say do the best you can and prepare for difficulty.

Mike
Miss Scarlet
User ID: 21159
4/3/2007 10:19 AM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Wow AC 216472 thanks for posting this! I just had a dream on the weekend involving buying smokes and the lady at the store made me feel that the combination of the money I had, the price of the smokes and the change I was receiving was a very rare occurrence. After I woke up I wondered if that was relating to something celestial then I came here and saw this, which I think might explain that part of the dream.

Thanks again!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 218114
4/3/2007 10:24 AM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Earth has cycles because the solar system is one big cycle.
Thing occur on a regular interval--including mass disaster.
What is coming, if I am right, is NOT RANDOM. It has happened before many times and its timimg and the signs have been recorded and kept by a few.

I have stumbled around for years believing in nonsence, like Planet x and the like. Then I realized "wait a second"
this doesn't sound right. then I saw so many similarities between ancient cultures.
Mike
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68038


Hi Mike,
I would be interested to know if you have found any connection with the plaeadies and these cycles, thanks.
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 10:29 AM
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Which is the exact day (however many years ago) the mids were built.

also the cross aligns with eiffel tower statue of liberty and the great pyramid of cheops, which also aligns with orion, at exactly 19.5 and 33 degrees
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 214411
Xare
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4/3/2007 10:44 AM
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Nothing is going to happen. Go back to sleep.
 Quoting: Ghost in the machine 208289


Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 1:52 PM
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Mike, have you seen Chris Hoagland's (Enterprise Mission0 and Goro's (Etemenanki) works on this subject. They have both made similar studies to yourself.
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 3:37 PM
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Hello,

I don't know if the pleaides have anything to do with what is going on. Besides Arcturus (bootes) and orion, they are among the few constellations directly named in the Bible. (see Job) There is a purpose for them--but I can only speculate.

There are actually 2 sets of 7 sisters--the pleaides and the planets.

Yes, I have read some goro and enterprise mission stuff.
To my knowledge though, none of them have named Venus as the second sun. if you study mayans and aztecs, all talk about a second sun. The rosecrutians do too. The Kolbrin mentions the appearence of a strange star before the earth is afflicted. Like I said--My belief is all this stuff is tied to venus going solar. (and the period which follows)

This period should end in January of 2008, when Saturn leave Leo. With all the talk in the Bible about Satan's (saturns) time being short--and jesus being from the root and stock of David/Judah/LEO--I believe this all applies.

Mike
Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 8:25 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/3/2007 11:08 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Hello,

I don't know if the pleaides have anything to do with what is going on. Besides Arcturus (bootes) and orion, they are among the few constellations directly named in the Bible. (see Job) There is a purpose for them--but I can only speculate.

There are actually 2 sets of 7 sisters--the pleaides and the planets.

Yes, I have read some goro and enterprise mission stuff.
To my knowledge though, none of them have named Venus as the second sun. if you study mayans and aztecs, all talk about a second sun. The rosecrutians do too. The Kolbrin mentions the appearence of a strange star before the earth is afflicted. Like I said--My belief is all this stuff is tied to venus going solar. (and the period which follows)

This period should end in January of 2008, when Saturn leave Leo. With all the talk in the Bible about Satan's (saturns) time being short--and jesus being from the root and stock of David/Judah/LEO--I believe this all applies.

Mike
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68038


In 2004 Venus transited the Sun. The next Venus transit of the Sun is supposedly June 6, 2012. If 2007 is actually 2012, maybe Venus is going to transit the Sun this June.

[link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk]

"What I have uncovered during my decades of research into this topic are two crucial keys to understanding the system: the ‘Transit of Venus’ and solar output cycles. It just so happens that the 2012 end date corresponds to a Venus Transit cycle that occurs twice in the next 10 years in 2004 and then in 2012. As mentioned above Venus was central to the Mayan cosmology. The Long Count began on what the Maya call the “Birth of Venus” so it is perhaps not too surprising that it ends on a Transit of Venus."


It was discussed in this thread what would be the cause of Venus "torching". Would it be possible that if, in the process of Venus transiting the Sun, that a big solar flare hits Venus, in effect "torching" it so that it becomes itself a "second sun"? I'm just guessing here.

Thank you very much for your research. I find all of this quite awesome to imagine.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 218463
4/3/2007 11:26 PM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Hello,

I don't know if the pleaides have anything to do with what is going on. Besides Arcturus (bootes) and orion, they are among the few constellations directly named in the Bible. (see Job) There is a purpose for them--but I can only speculate.

There are actually 2 sets of 7 sisters--the pleaides and the planets.

Yes, I have read some goro and enterprise mission stuff.
To my knowledge though, none of them have named Venus as the second sun. if you study mayans and aztecs, all talk about a second sun. The rosecrutians do too. The Kolbrin mentions the appearence of a strange star before the earth is afflicted. Like I said--My belief is all this stuff is tied to venus going solar. (and the period which follows)

This period should end in January of 2008, when Saturn leave Leo. With all the talk in the Bible about Satan's (saturns) time being short--and jesus being from the root and stock of David/Judah/LEO--I believe this all applies.

Mike


In 2004 Venus transited the Sun. The next Venus transit of the Sun is supposedly June 6, 2012. If 2007 is actually 2012, maybe Venus is going to transit the Sun this June.

[link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk]

"What I have uncovered during my decades of research into this topic are two crucial keys to understanding the system: the ‘Transit of Venus’ and solar output cycles. It just so happens that the 2012 end date corresponds to a Venus Transit cycle that occurs twice in the next 10 years in 2004 and then in 2012. As mentioned above Venus was central to the Mayan cosmology. The Long Count began on what the Maya call the “Birth of Venus” so it is perhaps not too surprising that it ends on a Transit of Venus."


It was discussed in this thread what would be the cause of Venus "torching". Would it be possible that if, in the process of Venus transiting the Sun, that a big solar flare hits Venus, in effect "torching" it so that it becomes itself a "second sun"? I'm just guessing here.

Thank you very much for your research. I find all of this quite awesome to imagine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 218463


Also, I just thought of another thing. The Hopi Prophecy about the Kachina and how it might relate to the Venus Transit.

"The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a "Kachina" removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children [the general public]. For a while there will be no more ceremonies, no more faith. Then Oraibi will be rejuvenated with its faith and ceremonies, marking the start of a new cycle of Hopi life."


[link to www.crystalinks.com]


See where it says "Kachina removes his mask DURING A DANCE IN THE PLAZA.."

This could mean the Venus Transit, don't you think?
Anonymous Coward
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4/4/2007 4:41 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/4/2007 6:11 AM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Thank you Mike, your thoughts are much appreciated.
Anonymous Coward
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4/4/2007 6:47 AM
Re: 2007 GRAND conjuction!!!!!!!!!!omg this is BIGQuote

Also, I just thought of another thing. The Hopi Prophecy about the Kachina and how it might relate to the Venus Transit.

"The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a "Kachina" removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children [the general public]. For a while there will be no more ceremonies, no more faith. Then Oraibi will be rejuvenated with its faith and ceremonies, marking the start of a new cycle of Hopi life."


[link to www.crystalinks.com]


See where it says "Kachina removes his mask DURING A DANCE IN THE PLAZA.."

This could mean the Venus Transit, don't you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 218463


That sounds quite plausible as it seems that by the Katchina removing it's mask that it could be something that we are already familiar with.
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4/4/2007 6:20 PM
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