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Speaking for God

"Have you not seen a delusive vision, and uttered a lying divination, whenever you have said, 'Says the Lord,' although I have not spoken?"
Ezekiel 13:7


How many times have we heard some fat, loud-mouthed preacher of a type sputter and howl, "God says this, and God says that?" How many more times do we have to hear that blather until we wake up and realize that nobody speaks for God, not a man dressed in black or in robes waving a black-covered book, not a man wearing a turban shouting "Jihad!," not a man of any kind?

Omnipresence Has No Spokespeople
The point is that even to these people "God" is supposedly omnipresent and, as such, is not, cannot be and never will be contained in one book, no matter how many times the cheerleaders of that book threaten eternal damnation and punishment. If "God" is omnipresent - a device conveniently used by these selfsame "preachers" to scare people into behaving, e.g., "God is watching you at all times" - then "God" is contained in everything, and that means every book, every person, every animal and every rock. That is the definition of omnipresence. In case the religionists still don't get that, let's spell it out:


"omnipresent : present in all places at all times" Webster's

Case closed. It is not possible for an omnipresent divinity to be here but not there. It is impossible for an omnipresent deity to be absent from someplace. That is the bottom line. Therefore - paradoxically to the notion that arrogant bozos who pretend to speak for God are fulla-da-shit - every book and every creature that claims to be speaking for God must be right, even those that say God is an utterly bogus concept designed to enslave the human race. Since God is omnipresent, God is also speaking when Bertrand Russell says:

"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from the ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men. When you hear people debasing themselves and saying that they are miserable sinners, and all the rest of it, it seems contemptible and not worthy of self-respecting human beings."

Since God is omnipresent, i.e., present in all places at all times, and there is no place that God is not present, then "God" has also said, through the mouth of Ralph Waldo Emerson:

"We must get rid of the Christ, we must get rid of that Christ."

Or of Thomas Carlyle, who said, "If I had my way, the world would hear a pretty stern command - Exit Christ."

Or of Nietzsche, who signed "Anti-Christ" after his name. His point was that Christ was a humiliation on humanity, always turning his cheek and shepherding us stupid "lost sheep."
For the rest, please see "Speaking for God."

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Isn't he (or she or it) old enough to speak for himself?
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Re: @@@Speaking for God@@@
ironically, the OP is "speaking for God"
by claiming God can use no one to be his messenger
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ironically, the OP is "speaking for God"
by claiming God can use no one to be his messenger
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If god is omnipresent, he wouldn't need a messenger.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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God speaks to everyone if only they take the time to listen.
Dreams will begin as they fade into chaos.
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ironically, the OP is "speaking for God"
by claiming God can use no one to be his messenger



If god is omnipresent, he wouldn't need a messenger.
 Quoting: Dervish


Some people may actual begin to see the light!!!
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Speaking for God

"Have you not seen a delusive vision, and uttered a lying divination, whenever you have said, 'Says the Lord,' although I have not spoken?"
Ezekiel 13:7


How many times have we heard some fat, loud-mouthed preacher of a type sputter and howl, "God says this, and God says that?" How many more times do we have to hear that blather until we wake up and realize that nobody speaks for God, not a man dressed in black or in robes waving a black-covered book, not a man wearing a turban shouting "Jihad!," not a man of any kind?

Omnipresence Has No Spokespeople
The point is that even to these people "God" is supposedly omnipresent and, as such, is not, cannot be and never will be contained in one book, no matter how many times the cheerleaders of that book threaten eternal damnation and punishment. If "God" is omnipresent - a device conveniently used by these selfsame "preachers" to scare people into behaving, e.g., "God is watching you at all times" - then "God" is contained in everything, and that means every book, every person, every animal and every rock. That is the definition of omnipresence. In case the religionists still don't get that, let's spell it out:


"omnipresent : present in all places at all times" Webster's

Case closed. It is not possible for an omnipresent divinity to be here but not there. It is impossible for an omnipresent deity to be absent from someplace. That is the bottom line. Therefore - paradoxically to the notion that arrogant bozos who pretend to speak for God are fulla-da-shit - every book and every creature that claims to be speaking for God must be right, even those that say God is an utterly bogus concept designed to enslave the human race. Since God is omnipresent, God is also speaking when Bertrand Russell says:

"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from the ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men. When you hear people debasing themselves and saying that they are miserable sinners, and all the rest of it, it seems contemptible and not worthy of self-respecting human beings."

Since God is omnipresent, i.e., present in all places at all times, and there is no place that God is not present, then "God" has also said, through the mouth of Ralph Waldo Emerson:

"We must get rid of the Christ, we must get rid of that Christ."

Or of Thomas Carlyle, who said, "If I had my way, the world would hear a pretty stern command - Exit Christ."

Or of Nietzsche, who signed "Anti-Christ" after his name. His point was that Christ was a humiliation on humanity, always turning his cheek and shepherding us stupid "lost sheep."
For the rest, please see "Speaking for God."

[link to www.truthbeknown.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 216759

I was with you until you started quoting the builders of the NWO; those that believe themselves to be God.
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ironically, the OP is "speaking for God"
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If god is omnipresent, he wouldn't need a messenger.
 Quoting: Dervish

sometimes people need an "interpreter"
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God speaks to spirits
some people have a dormant spirit
so, they need an interpreter
to get the message to their brain/mind
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ironically, the OP is "speaking for God"
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If god is omnipresent, he wouldn't need a messenger.

sometimes people need an "interpreter"
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Then god would not be omnipotent.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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03/30/2007 09:22 PM
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the problem isn't with God
we are hard of hearing
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03/30/2007 09:23 PM
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God speaks to spirits
some people have a dormant spirit
so, they need an interpreter
to get the message to their brain/mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213342


"Be still and know, I AM, your god." Read that very CAREFULLY!!! Take note of precisely where the punctuation is. It tells you precisely who god is. Interpreter??? NO!!! BE STILL!!!
Dervish

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the problem isn't with God
we are hard of hearing
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The problem was never with god. We are hard of hearing because of all the yelling by religon.
I know enough to know that I know nothing
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03/30/2007 09:31 PM
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sure, religion is man trying to reach God

God reaches us, no doubt
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03/30/2007 10:43 PM
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YOU SOUND LIKE A VERY HATEFUL PERSON. IN FACT THE LANGUAGE YOU USE IN EXPRESSING YOURSELF REMINDS ME OF WHEN JESUS CAST DEMONS OUT OF THOSE WHO WERE POSSESSED. THIS TYPE OF HATRED THAT YOU ARE EXHIBITING REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE BEING UNDER DEMON CONTROL.

Precious person whom God created, you have the gift of free-will to make a choice in whom you will serve. The result of that free choice will determine your life here on earth and your life in the hereafter. You have to make the decision; no one can do it for you. Your Creator God put the solution to free-will questions in your mind when you were born. Either you make the correct decision in the face of overwhelming evidence or suffer the consequences.

It is usually a waste of time to argue with those who are determined to be contrary. The evidence is all around these people that there is indeed a Creator God and they are not stupid just misled. Again, arguing is usually pointless because these people have already made their decision in the face of overwhelming evidence that there is a God who came to earth in the person of Jesus Christ. However, I keep trying anyway.

Precious person whom God created, there is an ancient set of beliefs about hell that people ridicule all the time. JUST REMEMBER HELL HAS NO EXITS, NO AIR CONDITIONERS AND NONE OF THE COMFORTS THAT ONE IS ACCUSTOMED TO IN THEIR EARTHLY LIFE. Plus the demons and evil spirits, that many of the misled people think are so wonderful, will suddenly turn on them in the nether world; they will laugh and torment the new arrival in hell for being so stupid and falling for hell’s web of lies. If one prefers to experience torture and overwhelming sadness for all eternity, then the free-will decision should be easy.

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM, SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. JOHN 3:16

YOU ARE ONE OF THE LOST SHEEP THAT JESUS IS LOOKING FOR. Think about it and we will pray for you.
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Your logic is exquisite.
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.

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