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Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations
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Anonymous Coward
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3/31/2007 11:23 PM
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DHS demand for DNS master key alarms nations
by Deep Harm
Sat Mar 31, 2007 at 04:03:53 PM PDT
[link to rawstory.com]
Slashdot and Cryptome report that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is demanding the master key for the DNS root zone - a demand that has other nations alarmed. With the master key, DHS would have control over the Internet, as Slashdot describes, quoting an "anonymous reader."
The key will play an important role in the new DNSSec security extension, because it will make spoofing IP-addresses impossible. By forcing the IANA [Internet Assigned Numbers Authority] to hand out a copy of the master key, the US government will be the only institution that is able to spoof IP addresses and be able to break into computers connected to the Internet without much effort.
The issue arose at Friday's meeting of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in Lisbon, Portugal.
* Deep Harm's diary :: ::*
There is no indication yet that U.S. mainstream news media have reported on the DHS proposal. U.S. coverage of the ICANN meeting focused (predictably) on a proposal to create a domain specifically for adult websites. Cryptome cites a German news source, Heisse Online, which provides the following information.
The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS)...wants to have the key to sign the DNS root zone solidly in the hands of the US government. This ultimate master key would then allow authorities to track DNS Security Extensions (DNSSec) all the way back to the servers that represent the name system's root zone on the Internet. The "key-signing key" signs the zone key, which is held by VeriSign. At the meeting of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in Lisbon, Bernard Turcotte, president of the Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) drew everyone's attention to this proposal as a representative of the national top-level domain registries (ccTLDs).
At the ICANN meeting, Turcotte said that the managers of country registries were concerned about this proposal. When contacted by heise online, Turcotte said that the national registries had informed their governmental representatives about the DHS's plans. A representative of the EU Commission said that the matter is being discussed with EU member states. DNSSec is seen as a necessary measure to keep the growing number of manipulations on the net under control. The DHS is itself sponsoring a campaign to support the implementation of DNSSec. Three of the 13 operators currently work outside of the US, two of them in Europe. Lars-Johan Liman of the Swedish firm Autonomica, which operates the I root server, pointed out the possible political implications last year. Liman himself nominated ICANN as a possible candidate for the supervisory function.
When other nations are worried, Americans, too, should be concerned. The Bush administration has demonstrated that it is unable to wield power responsibly. Therefore, its demand for Internet control should be viewed as an opportunity to abuse its authority to control a medium that has played a critical role in holding it accountable. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 19003
3/31/2007 11:41 PM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Heil Hitler, again.....jeez the cunt never dies. |
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HeidiLore
User ID: 201146
3/31/2007 11:44 PM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
I am SO TIRED of these damn idiots.
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Visit the GLP video site and click on groups:
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 213987
3/31/2007 11:46 PM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Is this key owned by Verisign something already in possesion of the Illuminati? So anyone can be tracked? |
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3 Star Retired General
User ID: 217277
3/31/2007 11:48 PM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
The real bullshit is they do it allready ,,,
This is a cover up petition to disinform of the current intercept capacity ..
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 215279
3/31/2007 11:49 PM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
DHS demand for DNS master key alarms nations
by Deep Harm
Sat Mar 31, 2007 at 04:03:53 PM PDT
The key will play an important role in the new DNSSec security extension, because it will make spoofing IP-addresses impossible. By forcing the IANA [Internet Assigned Numbers Authority] to hand out a copy of the master key, the US government will be the only institution that is able to spoof IP addresses and be able to break into computers connected to the Internet without much effort. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 217280
That's right.
If they don't like you, they could just walk into your computer and dump kiddie porn or whatever.
And then you are gone, framed as fuck without evidence ! ! !
DHS goes to far, if they think they can damand what ever they want from other counries.
Fuck the US GOVERNMENT.
Return this nation to the REPUBLIC and soverign citizenship it once was. |
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Evil Twin  
Senior Forum Moderator
User ID: 9313
4/1/2007 12:01 AM
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The real bullshit is they do it allready ,,,
This is a cover up petition to disinform of the current intercept capacity ..
I tend to agree, they just want to make what they are already doing look legitimate.
To visualize the coming apocalypse, imagine, if you will, Oprah & Rosie O'Donnell wrestling for the last rib at an all-you can-eat Bar-B-Q... |
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.!.?.
User ID: 215356
4/1/2007 12:31 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
That's right.
If they don't like you, they could just walk into your computer and dump kiddie porn or whatever.
And then you are gone, framed as fuck without evidence ! ! !
This is more likly to be the case.
Good time to NOT Have your computer ON When you are not there.
This Might or might Not have to do with possable things New to Vista, Not saying it does but it COULD.
Who KNOWS What back doors MSV has.
I Know that Weird things do Happen for no apparent resion.
The potental for MisUse is High if this Happens.
Just a Heads UP.
DoNOT think Just because you run an Older MS OS or Mac OS or even Linex that you are safe from what could be done through this DNS Master Key System.
Even just posting in forums like this one will give them a Path to get to your Box.
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Aaron
User ID: 123527
4/1/2007 12:36 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
:alleye:
think for yourself, question authority.. - Dr. Timothy Leary ... Life!.. it's just a ride! - Bill Hicks
The possession of anything begins in the mind - Bruce Lee
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.... - ALBERT EINSTEIN
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opposing zealousness at roots ultimately suffer
Though our 'creators'(..'in our image' - Genesis) may have given us life. Bighting the hand that feeds you has never been such a wise phrase.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 211537
4/1/2007 12:37 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
The dual citizens are insane beyond comprehension. Chertoff is a lunatic. The homeland is not America. The word is insane and is derived from Nazi Germany's Fatherland. I hate this homeland. It is unrecognizable to me. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217305
4/1/2007 12:52 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
We really have no ne to blame but ourselves.
The person who won't fight for freedom doesn't deserve it. I'm no better than anyone else, so I include myself in that to, but yeah...
It's our own fault. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212651
4/1/2007 12:53 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Time for a backup plan... remember telnets, the freenet, terminal programs and local BBS's... Ugh, those ANSI graffix..but seriously, they could not mess with us then....
there was no internet monthly bill, and news threads and message boards were plenty... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 213340
4/1/2007 2:09 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Time for an alternate Internet overlay |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 208180
4/1/2007 2:16 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
I wouldn't trust them with a key to the restroom.
So like what, our information is supposed to be protected from everone except spooks and spies?? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212651
4/1/2007 2:27 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
One other thing, if you don't have a hard drive, they cannot arrest you or charge you for whats on it.... Gotta love those Linux Live Distros! |
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Femto
User ID: 215637
4/1/2007 2:30 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
The real bullshit is they do it allready ,,,
This is a cover up petition to disinform of the current intercept capacity Quoting: 3 star retired general
Spot on General
Lovexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfemto
Love x |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217338
4/1/2007 2:33 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Time for an alternate Internet overlay Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213340
Start learning Russian and Chinese coz they already have it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217339
4/1/2007 2:39 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
By preventing ipa spoofing, they're making it possible to assign each and every human being an ip address for life. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 213819
4/1/2007 3:09 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
By preventing ipa spoofing, they're making it possible to assign each and every human being an ip address for life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 217339
Resistance is FUTILE; YOU will be assimulated! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217345
4/1/2007 3:13 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Burp purnes & smelt on these pukes! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217347
4/1/2007 3:18 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
The dual citizens are insane beyond comprehension. Chertoff is a lunatic. The homeland is not America. The word is insane and is derived from Nazi Germany's Fatherland. I hate this homeland. It is unrecognizable to me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 211537
You are a true poet. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217345
4/1/2007 3:29 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
The dual citizens are insane beyond comprehension. Chertoff is a lunatic. The homeland is not America. The word is insane and is derived from Nazi Germany's Fatherland. I hate this homeland. It is unrecognizable to me.
You are a true poet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 217347
What are you, a haiku master? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217339
4/1/2007 3:34 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
By preventing ipa spoofing, they're making it possible to assign each and every human being an ip address for life.
Resistance is FUTILE; YOU will be assimulated! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213819
[link to youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 194808
4/1/2007 8:21 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
All your DNS are belong to us. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4009
4/1/2007 8:32 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
I am SO TIRED of these damn idiots. Quoting: HeidiLore
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Unanimous DNS
User ID: 213229
4/1/2007 8:34 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
If they get control over the DNS master key
godlikeproductions.com could equal another IP address. So if I type in godlikeproductions.com I could end up at a state sponsored website instead of where I wanted to go!!!
Quick, everyone write down the IP addresses of your fav websites! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 207003
4/1/2007 8:37 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
One other thing, if you don't have a hard drive, they cannot arrest you or charge you for whats on it.... Gotta love those Linux Live Distros! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 212651
Yeah, I have thought about that. One could also just use an encrypted USB flash drive, and keep that secure. Run an OS on the IDE drive, and use it once in awhile, and use the USB for when you're trawling GLP. Of course, there's still the IP traffic leading back to you, the only true secure way to browse anymore is hijacking an open wireless AP, and then disposing of your NIC every month or so. :) |
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Asinine
User ID: 194806
4/1/2007 8:54 AM
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Not to mention the propaganda potential is enormous. Rather than all these retards that astroturf Wikipedia, webforums, and the like and then get caught when their IP traces back to Capital Hill, they can hide it and make it look like the propaganda is from just an average joe with an opinion.
Considering that this is to get around a new technology designed to prevent this, it is almost certain they are already using it for something.
"It is surprising that supposedly intelligent people can make such asinine statements." -Definition of Asinine, www.Dictionary.com
It's all a farce; and, the joke is on all of us. |
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9net
User ID: 217449
4/1/2007 10:08 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
Time for an alternate Internet overlay Quoting: Anonymous Coward 213340
Thats called alternate DNS root.
DHS if in posssesion of master key for DNSsec,can spoof new "secure" domains(normal DNS is insecure by design) creating fake servers. |
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9net
User ID: 217449
4/1/2007 10:15 AM | | Re: Department of Homeland Security demand for DNS master key alarms nations | Quote |
If they get control over the DNS master key
godlikeproductions.com could equal another IP address. So if I type in godlikeproductions.com I could end up at a state sponsored website instead of where I wanted to go!!!
Quick, everyone write down the IP addresses of your fav websites! Quoting: Unanimous DNS 213229
only if site has static IP assigned to it. |
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Emperor Kenton
User ID: 213340
4/1/2007 10:18 AM
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I don't think the Jackboot hall monitors will be able to keep up with innovators in computer science.
The entire Internet is merely an...overlay.
[link to www.cyberspaceorbit.com] |
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