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Vanishing bee mystery solved

 
Bees are making a comeback.
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04/02/2007 10:06 AM
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Vanishing bee mystery solved
Since 10 years bees have been dying by the millions in France and Spain. 90.000 million in spain alone to be more exact. I saw on Spanish television yesterday that they blame the pesticides, especially the nicotine they carry. The nicotine makes the bees lose their memory hence flying from the hive touching infected flowers and not being able to find their way back dying away from the hive.

The war against these pesticides started years ago in France and is now carried on by Spain. As you can see it is NOT a mystery and hasnt been for a long time. of course the multi nationals will do anything to keep this info from the people.

From this link; [link to www.cbgnetwork.org]
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Tras un balance de 90.000 millones de abejas muertas en diez años, al parecer por culpa de los pesticidas, un juez galo procesó a las cúpulas de las multinacionales Bayer y BASF por vender "productos agrícolas tóxicos dañinos para la salud del hombre o de los animales", prohibiendo cautelarmente para determinados usos dos de sus productos. Uno de ellos, el Imidacloprid, es un derivado de la nicotina que actúa sobre el sistema nervioso central de los insectos, bloqueándolos de tal forma que las abejas al ingerir néctar contaminado pierden la memoria, no son capaces de volver a la colmena y mueren.

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After 90.000 million bees dying over the last 10 years, apparently dying from pesticides, a judge in Galicia denounced the multinationals Bayer and BASF for selling toxic agricultural products that hurt human and animal health, forbidding the use for some of their products. One of them is Imidacloprid, it is a form of nicotine that acts on the nervous system of the insects, blocking the memory of the bees that ingested this substance, rendering them incapable of finding the way back to the hive thus they die.

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Otro neonicotinoide con base en el Imidacloprid, el Confidor, llegó a Galicia para fumigar los eucaliptos frente a la plaga del goníptero. Apicultores ferrolanos, en zonas de eucaliptales del litoral, denunciaron la masiva muerte de colmenas y creen que la causa es la toxicidad del polen.

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Another "neonicotinoide" that has as a base Imidacloprid is called Confidor, came to Galicia to fumigate the eucalyptos trees. Beekeepers in the fumigated areas denounced the massive die out of bee hives and believe the cause is the toxity of the pollen.

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Las multinacionales perdieron sus juicios en Francia.

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The multinationals lost the cases in France!!!

I think it is clear now what is going on no?
Of course it had to be the pesticides, jeeez we´re dumb!

LOL

I scanned some spanish forums and the bees seem to be returning where these pesticides have been banned or people refuse to use them.
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04/02/2007 10:11 AM
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Re: Vanishing bee mystery solved
The bees are specially religious suicide bomber bees from mars
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04/02/2007 10:21 AM
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Re: Vanishing bee mystery solved
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998
Subject: Unpredictable Side Effects From GE Food

Unpredictable Side Effects From GE Food
The following story regarding bee deaths might be caused by GE corn or other GE crops. We do not know if these crops were planted nearby. Also, there are many possible causes and many possible chains of causation leading to their mysterious demise.

There was already concern and reports of bees having problems in Europe, losing their ability to differentiate between different scents from GE crops. Although no proof has been forthcoming yet, the problem is that the crops are going onto people's dinner plates and into the environment first, before we know what results to expect for our own personal health and the health of the environment. We are witnessing testing via the global food chain--making the human race into guinea pigs.

The strategy of the GE food industry: Serve GE food to people now. Put GE food into the food chain now. Take the profits and run. Ask questions later.

We will find out about all the risks later, after they manifest. The GE food industry wants to make any problems untraceable.

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04/02/2007 10:33 AM
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4/2/2007 10:21 AM

I saw beekeepers on tv talk about the pesticides, they declared when they stopped using these pesticides the bees started coming back. I dont know about gm foods, the only thing i read in combination with bees is that the bees do not touch gm crops so I doubt that would be the problem.

Court cases have been won over this issue already, maybe gm crops might have something to do with the vanishing bees but it is not sure. The pesticides on the other hand have been PROVEN to be guilty.

Get rid of pesticides NOW!
Devoutin
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04/02/2007 11:26 AM
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Oh its so simple to say, "GOD did this" or "NWO doesnt want you to know, yet somehow you're informed"

Just like drugs are issued by fbi / mafia ...not only issued but allowed to enter this country by so called drug trafficking criminals as a front, information for the most part is put out by inside operatives, there are operatives doing good by leaking info, and there are operatives "leaking info" that is misinformation. They make the problem they make the solution, they make 2 sides to an issue that they created, to legitimizing the created situation.

There is a bee scare going on, we all know we're screwed if the bee's get near being
wiped out. Einstein said we only have a few years to live after the bees are gone.
Im not sure what Im seeing here, but hear me out. And maybe you have an idea
of what Im seeing. Ive got a good start on being able to comprehend the quantum world,
I cant know water, except by knowing the part of me that is "water manifested"
or the attributes of water, which is still just an Idea and definitions, limitations.
(if you want to get technical I cant know water unless I am water, to argue
further my body is mostly made of water, I digress) I can comfortably explain
quantum physics to a peer or someone who has no idea, I am humbled in the
presence of someone who has studied it and can make equations using quantum math.
Now that I have some of my background out there, basically I'm a Joe Shmo.


I have a feeling that doesn't instill for you, to much confidence in me, at least you know
I have a confusing intellect, that nulls itself perfectly, I'm a Gemini. What Im going to bring
to the table today are 2 articles that doesn't mesh, in fact it knots in a manner that isn't
easily untied, so if you enjoy reading a thought provoking journey is in store for you.


First article I don't need to show because Its about the link between GM Crops and
the bees dieing connection. Sounds Completely plausible. Im a vegetarian, I completely
understand there are impacts of growing veggies with pesticides coded in genetically,
or over homogenizing animals. Consider how bee's communicate to find the food.
Communication for bees is done as a dance, which is still a mystery as to how they
formulated such an advanced communication. My logic would tell me a group, regardless
of brain size, which doesn't denote intelligence in its true sense, a group would need a
way to understand each other in order to communicate a system of communication.
A way for bees to explain to other bees that this dance means this and that dance
means that. The other possibility, among many other probably more aligned with correct,
is that this communication is built into them from birth, so training would not be necessary.
Personally I say their or anyones "true" language built in to there genetic make up.
Which is also adaptable, which to me explains how the language got there in the first place.
For instance, Lets say bees would collectively by the unconscious connection
(In terms conscious concept of the unconscious which is limited) Figure out that
their is a change, they feel that their kind are dieing and figure out its due to the type
of pollen they figure out a dance to warn stay away from this area, the flowers are bad,
This new "word" wouldn't have to be taught. Just by the creation it is "automatically"
wrote in their genes.

Continued [link to cogentdogtoy.vox.com]
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04/02/2007 08:43 PM
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Anonymous Coward
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4/2/2007 10:21 AM
I dont know about gm foods, the only thing i read in combination with bees is that the bees do not touch gm crops so I doubt that would be the problem.

Court cases have been won over this issue already, maybe gm crops might have something to do with the vanishing bees but it is not sure. The pesticides on the other hand have been PROVEN to be guilty.

Get rid of pesticides NOW!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 217822

GM crops contaminate any crop growing beside it, the flowers would still attract the bees but the pollen would have traces of GM crops.

Are the killer bees from Africa also affected?
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04/02/2007 09:53 PM
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Re: Vanishing bee mystery solved
The bees are dying from diseases because of weakened immuned systems. They are not "vanishing," but are dying and being gobbled up by birds, etc. The cause of the weakened immune system remains a mystery.





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