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Cancer Killers - Flaxseed Oil vs. B17

 
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Cancer Killers - Flaxseed Oil vs. B17
Which one is the more effective cancer killer?
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[link to www.youtube.com]

This one promotes B17.
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Someone MUST know?
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Flaxseed oil is harmless. B17 is mostly harmless, just stay away from bitter almond oil or apricot cores because its a bit too concentrated for human health.

Whether either actually kill cancer has yet to be proven. OK, the makers both ran their pet clinical trials, but that doesn't mean much.

Regular treatments such as chemo and radiation will kill cancer cells. They're also expensive and most can cause almost as much harm as good. The FDA is corrupt, but not totally corrupt; stay away from new highly marketed treatments and you should be OK. In fact, stay the hell away from new and highly marketed treatments in general.
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Flaxseed oil, cottage cheese, google and research........
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The main thing probably is to correct the acidity, and that can be done by eating a wide variety of mainly fruit and veges, nuts grains and seeds... including Kelp, millet and your VitB17 (found in more than just Apricot seeds, btw) and flaxseed oil. Turmeric is supposed to be good if your into rice dishes and curry. A good healthy vegetarian and vegan diet will go a long way to the correction of acidity.


Antibiotics if you are prescribed them suppresses the normal gut flora and allows Candida fungus to grow which invades the body, and is associated "in every sample" with cancer. [link to www.curenaturalicancro.org]

B17 found in seeds of apricot, apple, peach, cherry, grapes, and in bitter almonds, millet, lima beans and more.


There's heaps more stuff mostly gleaned from the GLP.

Stay away from chlorine and/or fluoride in the water supply, and make bread if you can because bought bread is raised (improved) with bromide which competes with Iodine for the receptor sites in your body. [link to www.lewrockwell.com]


Lots.

use nori seaweed... There was one article which said that kelp tablets in the United States had arsenic in them, so you have to be careful at least in the United States about taking Kelp in tablet form.
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as fresh as you can get it, BLENDED with cottage cheese/yoghurt in a ratio roughly 1 to 3. It must be blended together, and you need a lot to cure cancer.

You must also change your diet completely and no smoking/coke/man made foods.

research Dr. Joanna Budwig.

the more you learn about her and what she did the better your chances.


it is NOT a magic bullet if you keep eating/drinking the poisons that got you into this mess.

dragonslayer2001
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consider wheatgrass

it's loaded with chlorophyll, also consider h2o2
both are very high in oxygen content, and oxygen kills cancers cells
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I can't remember where I read this, but a doctor advised asparagus...raw, cooked, or a good canned brand. Eat about 3Tbs. per day. Vitamin C in substantial amounts is very good. Google the Vitamin C Foundation. Drinking water free of fluoride and other bad things is essential.

I wish there were a magic bullet that was made known to us.
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I wish there were a magic bullet that was made known to us.
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There might be:
[link to www.depmed.ualberta.ca]

DCA is an odourless, colourless, inexpensive, relatively non-toxic, small molecule. And researchers at the University of Alberta believe it may soon be used as an effective treatment for many forms of cancer.

Dr. Evangelos Michelakis, a professor at the U of A Department of Medicine, has shown that dichloroacetate (DCA) causes regression in several cancers, including lung, breast, and brain tumors.

Michelakis and his colleagues, including post-doctoral fellow Dr. Sebastian Bonnet, have published the results of their research in the journal Cancer Cell.

Scientists and doctors have used DCA for decades to treat children with inborn errors of metabolism due to mitochondrial diseases. Mitochondria, the energy producing units in cells, have been connected with cancer since the 1930s, when researchers first noticed that these organelles dysfunction when cancer is present.

Until recently, researchers believed that cancer-affected mitochondria are permanently damaged and that this damage is the result, not the cause, of the cancer. But Michelakis, a cardiologist, questioned this belief and began testing DCA, which activates a critical mitochondrial enzyme, as a way to "revive" cancer-affected mitochondria.

The results astounded him.

Michelakis and his colleagues found that DCA normalized the mitochondrial function in many cancers, showing that their function was actively suppressed by the cancer but was not permanently damaged by it.

More importantly, they found that the normalization of mitochondrial function resulted in a significant decrease in tumor growth both in test tubes and in animal models. Also, they noted that DCA, unlike most currently used chemotherapies, did not have any effects on normal, non-cancerous tissues.

"I think DCA can be selective for cancer because it attacks a fundamental process in cancer development that is unique to cancer cells," Michelakis said. "One of the really exciting things about this compound is that it might be able to treat many different forms of cancer”.

Another encouraging thing about DCA is that, being so small, it is easily absorbed in the body, and, after oral intake, it can reach areas in the body that other drugs cannot, making it possible to treat brain cancers, for example.

Also, because DCA has been used in both healthy people and sick patients with mitochondrial diseases, researchers already know that it is a relatively non-toxic molecule that can be immediately tested patients with cancer.

”The results are intriguing because they point to the critical role that mitochondria play: they impart a unique trait to cancer cells that can be exploited for cancer therapy”
Dario Alteri
Director University of Massachusetts Cancer Center

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The DCA compound is not patented and not owned by any pharmaceutical company, and, therefore, would likely be an inexpensive drug to administer, says Michelakis, the Canada Research Chair in Pulmonary Hypertension and Director of the Pulmonary Hypertension Program with Capital Health, one of Canada’s largest health authorities.

However, as DCA is not patented, Michelakis is concerned that it may be difficult to find funding from private investors to test DCA in clinical trials. He is grateful for the support he has already received from publicly funded agencies, such as the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), and he is hopeful such support will continue and allow him to conduct clinical trials of DCA on cancer patients.

Michelakis’ research is currently funded by the CIHR, the Canada Foundation for Innovation, the Canada Research Chairs program, and the Alberta Heritage Foundation for Medical Research.

"This preliminary research is encouraging and offers hope to thousands of Canadians and all others around the world who are afflicted by cancer, as it accelerates our understanding of and action around targeted cancer treatments," said Dr. Philip Branton, Scientific Director of the CIHR Institute of Cancer.

DCA and Cancer Patients

The University of Alberta’s DCA Research Team is set to launch clinical trials on humans in the spring of 2007 pending government approval. Knowing that thousands of cancer patients die weekly while waiting for a cure, Dr. Michelakis and his team are working at accelerated speed, condensing research that usually takes years into months. Fundraisers at the University of Alberta are determined to raise the money to allow this next phase of research to begin. Once Health Canada grants formal approval, the University of Alberta’s Research Team will begin testing DCA on patients living with cancer. Results with regards to the safety and efficacy of treatment should be known late this year.

UPDATE January 23, 2007 - Investigators at the University of Alberta have recently reported that a drug previously used in humans for the treatment of rare disorders of metabolism is also able to cause tumor regression in a number of human cancers growing in animals. This drug, dichloroacetate (DCA), appears to suppress the growth of cancer cells without affecting normal cells, suggesting that it might not have the dramatic side effects of standard chemotherapies.

At this point, the University of Alberta, the Alberta Cancer Board and Capital Health do not condone or advise the use of dichloroacetate (DCA) in human beings for the treatment of cancer since no human beings have gone through clinical trials using DCA to treat cancer. However, the University of Alberta and the Alberta Cancer Board are committed to performing clinical trials in the immediate future in consultation with regulatory agencies such as Health Canada. We believe that because DCA has been used on human beings in Phase 1 and Phase 2 trials of metabolic diseases, the cancer clinical trials timeline for our research will be much shorter than usual.
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i dont understand your question. one has nothing to do with fighting cancer and is simply a source of omega 3 for the heart and brain. the other has a direct mechanism of fighting cancer.
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Which one is the direct mechanism for fighting cancer?
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i dont understand your question. one has nothing to do with fighting cancer and is simply a source of omega 3 for the heart and brain. the other has a direct mechanism of fighting cancer.
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Just because you are unaware doesn't mean the mechanism doesn't exist.THAT's what you don't understand.
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The Omega 3 acids in Flax seed are very benificial to the cells of the body. Without adequate omega 3, the body tries to use transfats to build membrains and it makes a very weakend cell probably more susceptible to cancer.

Having said that......

Flax has Omega 3 and Vitamine B17.....if you take in the crushed seed....(cold milled flax seed is the best )

Overall flax seed is a great source of Omega 3, lignan, fiber, B17 and muculage.......all great for health and getting rid of cancer.

I have 10 gallons of flax seed and probably will get more for long term use
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So will the flaxseed oil capsals that you get at any drug store or walmart have the b17 in them?
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Some info on cancer that people should know.

Rather than having mammograms, biopsies etc the easiest way to detect cancer in the early stages is to perform a pregnancy test. If you are a male and the result is positive you have cancer. If you are a female and are positive you are either pregnant or have cancer. So easy to tell. Then use B17 to kill the cancer in it's tracks. Hope this helps. For detailed read.

[link to www.vialls.com]
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we all have cancer.
[link to educate-yourself.org]

good luck the odds are against you

so is the FDA
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the truly delicious recipe for flax seed oil and cottage cheese, is to mix some powdered yeast into it - Yumm! (extra vitamins and amino acids)
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Apricot Kernal Seeds are the highest & best source for B-17. The original fellow that discovered it, basically he said that cancer is the result of a B-17 deficiency in the diet. Since the 1930's the US farmers have been fertilizing with petrolium by-product based fertilizers. It is my belief this is the reason for the rise of cancer in the US since 1930's. The soils have all been depleted of the natural sources of trace minerals. We need trace minerals for a healthy immune system.I myself wish I had the information about B-17 and for Killing cancer about 16-19 months ago when my mom got diagnosed w/terminal cancer. There is going to be a "healing crisis" that happens once the tumor is affected, and killed. The body must remove it, and symptoms may get rather nasty fort a few days. But, this is a good sign! drink lotsa water with pure juice of lemon, and stir in cranberry concentrate every day to clean out all the nasty stuff. Hope this helps. B-17 is the most promising thing to use to kill cancer, I am sure. rv. .......................................................
Which one is the direct mechanism for fighting cancer?
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Whenever getting stuff like this(alternative health solutions)Get The BEST!!! You will not find it at Wal-Mart, that's for sure. The best supplier I found is in the UK (of Apricot Kernals). Whoever you are asking about thuis for has to completely change their diert. NO WHITE FLOUR products, NO PROCEESSED WHITE SUGAR products, NO RED MEAT & NO DAIRY products. Lotsa fresh fruits and vegatables. White chicken meat & fish for protein. That is just the basics. 2-4 weeks of eating the kernals every day and the diet change and lotsa water with juice of lemon with cranberry concentrate added 1-2 times per day(to keep kidneys strong). Hope this helps. rv. .........................................................
So​ will the flaxseed oil capsals that you get at any drug store or walmart have the b17 in them?
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Well, Edgar Caycee used to recommend eating almonds....said they would fight turmors. It is interesting that our government is now making sure that all almonds are heat pasteruized....probably to kill the high ammount of B-17 in them. H2O2 therapy may help as it cancer cannot live in an oxygen environment. Doing a "Master Cleanse" may help. It will help the body to get rid of acid and toxins, and may shrink tumors. I would use steam distilled water for the cleanse and also fresh lemon juice.
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newest cancer killer is baking soda.

d/l the info on it.



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So how do you explain lung cancer, etc from smoking? Is that too a result of a B17 defficency? Will B17 or flaxseed oil cure or prevent cancer caused by smoking?
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So how do you explain lung cancer, etc from smoking? Is that too a result of a B17 defficency? Will B17 or flaxseed oil cure or prevent cancer caused by smoking?
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Cancer is a healing disease.....the more damage done to the body with a nutritional deficiency...the more likely cancer is to happen.

Smoking doesn't cause cancer......but smoking does rob the body of vitamines and damages the lungs....So in that respect there is a correlation. But there have been people who have smoked over 60 years who got good nutrition and never developed bronchitis, emphasema or lung cancer.

Other people have had broken bones, the flu, or some other trauma and then developed cancer.....

Cancer is tied to the body trying to heal itself without adequate nutrition (rest and water).

Vitamin B17 is a type of Chemotherapy THAT ONLY TARGETS CANCER CELLS.......therefore it is the best and safest form of cancer treatment.

Of course you can't just take B17....you must get many other nutrients in larger ammounts as well for B17 to work effectively.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

This one promotes B17.
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Ihave been on apricot kernels etc.for 4 years & have no
ill effects or cancer.
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Use Google to find the latest research on foods that fight cancer.

If you type in Apoptosis into the search bar, you will come up
with lots of different foods that fight cancer.

Many different foods target different kinds of cancer, such
as blueberries, lemon, asparagus, brocolli, tumeric, onions,
garlic, and citrus.
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Did you know there is b17 in flax seed?...
here are some foods
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This site has some foods that have b17 in them. these also can apply to alkaline diets
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as fresh as you can get it, BLENDED with cottage cheese/yoghurt in a ratio roughly 1 to 3. It must be blended together, and you need a lot to cure cancer.

You must also change your diet completely and no smoking/coke/man made foods.

research Dr. Joanna Budwig.

the more you learn about her and what she did the better your chances.


it is NOT a magic bullet if you keep eating/drinking the poisons that got you into this mess.

dragonslayer2001
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so cottage cheese is a naturally occurring food and not man made? Fn thieves, you will believe any story when you enjoy the taste.

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